BOB HARRIS SAID:
>>> "Where did [Lee Harvey Oswald] get the money for his extensive travels? He later claimed he had saved over $1,000 while in the Marines, but records show he had only $200 in his bank account. So, tell me.
How did he make that trip, including all the amenities on his last $200, David?" <<<
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
And if I can't tell you exactly where and how Lee Oswald obtained the
money to travel to Russia (by way of Europe) in 1959, then you get to
believe in crazy, kooky pro-conspiracy stuff -- right Bob?
And then I'm supposed to follow suit and start believing that all of
the "Lone Assassin" evidence that's currently in existence that tells
a reasonable person that Oswald did, in fact, act alone on 11/22/63 is
all wrong, faked, planted, manipulated, or what-have-you? Is that
about it, Robert?
Oswald's extra cash in 1959 (FOUR YEARS PRIOR TO THE ASSASSINATION)
somehow equals "A CIA-Backed Conspiracy To Murder John Kennedy In
Is that about the size of the situation, Bob?
Sorry, Bob, I'm not going down that road. You can travel down that
murky avenue by yourself (and with the other conspiracy kooks like
>>> "Bugliosi is just another lame apologist and his claims are not grounded in reality." <<<
Yeah, sure. But Jim Garrison, Mark Lane, and their ilk ARE "grounded
in reality". Right Bob?
>>> "Yes, they [the CIA] were supposed to maintain high security and keep secrets, but NOT from their own government." <<<
Says who? You?
Is that your own CIA rule, Bob?
Americans aren't supposed to shoot their own Presidents either. But
American Oswald did just that.
(Not the perfect analogy. But it's getting late in the day, so it'll have
to do for now.) ;)
>>> "David, can you think of a single case in which the CIA withheld information from all other govt. agencies unless they WERE up to no good? Take your time, David." <<<
Why don't you, Bob, go about the task of PROVING that anything that
was "withheld" by the CIA from Government agencies surrounding the JFK
murder was important and critical information that was absolutely
needed in order to answer the $64,000 inquiry -- "Did LHO Act Alone?"
Can you do that, Bob?
>>> "I thought you said you saw that documentary ["Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?"], David." <<<
I have seen it. Multiple times. I just interpret things a little
differently than you....such as [Silvia] Duran's comments, which mean zilch
when it comes to proving that Oswald was involved with the CIA or was
part of a multi-person plot to kill JFK in '63.
But if you want to make that large-sized leap of faith -- feel free to
make that jump. (But watch out for the hard landing.)
>>> "But claiming that it's perfectly normal for the CIA to coverup evidence about a Presidential assassin is just an insult to our
And what things did the CIA "cover up" about Lee Harvey Oswald that,
if fully revealed to the Warren Commission in 1963-1964, would have
completely changed the Commission's "Lone Assassin" conclusion?
Take your time, Bob.
>>> "LHO was a fanatical ANTI-communist, David." <<<
Oh goodie! Another example of a conspiracy kook turning the evidence
upside-down and inside-out!
IOW -- It's the good ol' "NOTHING AND NOBODY ARE EVER WHAT IT/THEY
SEEM TO BE" motto coming to the forefront once again.
1.) Lee Harvey Oswald, by all accounts, certainly seems to be a
Communist sympathizer. So, per Mr. Harris, he's actually exactly the
2.) Oswald acted like a lone assassin in every single respect both
before and after 12:30 PM on 11/22/63 (and the physical/ballistics
evidence bears out this fact as well).
So, per most CTers, exactly the opposite is true (i.e., Oswald was
either a completely innocent patsy or he was working in concert with
3.) Jack Ruby's actions on 11/24/63 were obviously the actions of a
man who was not "stalking" his prey (Oswald) and were the actions of
a man who shot LHO on the spur of the moment, being aided by nothing
except garden-variety happenstance, sheer luck, and impeccable
But, per most CTers, exactly the opposite is true, with Ruby working
for the Mob or the DPD in order to silence the patsy.
4.) All of the physical and ballistics and medical evidence in the case shows
(undeniably) that President Kennedy was shot ONLY FROM BEHIND (and by
only TWO bullets).
But the CTers believe something else again....with the conspiracists
saying that JFK had holes in his head and body that totally contradict
the autopsy findings AND the authenticated photographs.
Has there EVER been another murder case in the history of mankind
where virtually EVERY single thing and every single hunk of official,
verified evidence has been second-guessed and turned on its head by a
crowd of conspiracy-seekers?
The O.J. Simpson trial might come to mind. But even that trial's evidence
hasn't been mangled as badly as the proven-to-be-factual (and LN-leaning)
evidence that has been misrepresented by conspiracy lovers in the JFK
murder case (and the J.D. Tippit case as well, which has had its evidence
completely skewed by conspiracy-happy morons too, without a doubt).
LET'S ALL NOW BASK IN ROBERT HARRIS' POST-ENDING SALVO OF ABSURDITIES REGARDING LEE H. OSWALD (PLEASE HOLD ALL LAUGHTER UNTIL BOB FINISHES SPOUTING HIS TRIPE):
>>> "After [Lee Harvey Oswald] left Russia, he used his phony [Communist sympathizer] legend like a wrecking ball, trying to do in the FBI's most despised enemies. I think he used that same tactic to kill two birds with one stone, David -- get that pinko Kennedy and make everybody think Castro was behind it, so that we finally give Fidel his comeupance [sic]. He intended to martyr himself and he did. He just didn't count on LBJ wimping out over fears about WWIII. But he didn't do it alone, David. Perhaps he could have, but he didn't, though he was very likely the one who fired the fatal shot." <<<
Okay, we've all held it in long enough --- let the laughter commence.
David Von Pein
LINK TO ORIGINAL POST (FEBRUARY 20, 2008)