A CONSPIRACY THEORIST SAID:
>>> "There have long been problems with how the rifle allegedly used in the assassination of President Kennedy came to be linked with Oswald. Raymond Gallagher shows us, astonishingly and with documentation, that the rifle was shipped before Oswald had ordered it. How could that be? .... How did the bank deposit Oswald's money order for the weapon before Oswald wrote it?" <<<
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
There aren't any unsolvable "problems" with the documentation of how
Lee Oswald came into possession of Rifle #C2766 at all. Only a CTer
bent on FINDING some "problems" has a problem with that particular
part of the case (as per the CT norm, of course).
Warren Commission Testimony:
DAVID W. BELIN. Is there anything which indicates in what form you received the money?
WILLIAM J. WALDMAN (VP of Klein's Sporting Goods Inc.). Yes; below the amount is shown the letters "MO" designating money order.
Mr. BELIN. Now, I see the extreme top of this microfilm, the date, March 13, 1963; to what does that refer?
Mr. WALDMAN. This is an imprint made by our cash register indicating that the remittance received from the customer was passed through our register on that date.
Mr. BELIN. And to the right of that, I see $21.45. Is that correct?
Mr. WALDMAN. That's correct.
Mr. BELIN. Is there any other record that you have in connection with the shipment of this rifle other than the particular microfilm negative frame that we are looking at right now?
Mr. WALDMAN. We have a--this microfilm record of a coupon clipped from a portion of one of our advertisements, which indicates by writing of the customer on the coupon that he ordered our catalog No. C20-T750; and he has shown the price of the item, $19.95, and gives as his name A. Hidell, and his address as Post Office Box 2915, in Dallas, Tex.
Mr. BELIN. I hand you what has been marked as Commission Exhibit No. 788, which appears to be a U.S. postal money order payable to the order of Klein's Sporting Goods, and marked that it's from a purchaser named A. Hidell, and as the purchaser's street address is Post Office Box No. 2915, and the purchaser's City, Dallas, Tex.; March 12, 1963: and underneath the amount of $21.45, the number 2,202,130,462. And on the reverse side there appears to be an endorsement of a bank. I wonder if you would read that endorsement, if you would, and examine it, please.
Mr. WALDMAN. This is a stamped endorsement reading "Pay to the order of the First National Bank of Chicago," followed by our account No. 50 space 91144, and that, in turn, followed by "Klein's Sporting Goods, Inc."
Mr. BELIN. Do you know whether or not that is your company's endorsement on that money order?
Mr. WALDMAN. It's identical to our endorsement.
Mr. BELIN. And I hand you what has been marked as Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 9 and ask you if you can state what this is.
Mr. WALDMAN. This is our endorsement stamp which reads the same as that shown on the money order in question.
Mr. BELIN. You have just now stamped Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 9 with your endorsement stamp?
Mr. WALDMAN. Correct.
Mr. BELIN. Do you have any way of knowing when exactly this money order was deposited by your company?
Mr. WALDMAN. I cannot specifically say when this money order was deposited by our company; however, as previously stated, a money order for $21.45 passed through our cash register on March 13, 1963.
>>> "How did the bank deposit Oswald's money order for the weapon before Oswald wrote it? .... The bank deposit slip, the extra copy provided by the bank at the time of the transfer, reads FEBRUARY 15, 1963, not March 13th. This is about one month before Oswald sent the coupon for the rifle by air mail to Chicago." <<<
Yes, Waldman Exhibit No. 10 does indeed indicate the date
"2-15-63" on the First National Bank receipt. But I think the key to
KNOWING beyond a reasonable doubt that the "Feb. 15" date is merely a
slipped digit on the part of whoever wrote out that extra copy of the
receipt is the fact that the TOTAL DEPOSIT that is indicated on the
"2-15-63" bank deposit slip is identical (to the penny) to the total
deposit listed on the detailed document (which is dated "3-13-63")
shown right above the "Feb. 15" 1st National receipt in Waldman #10 --
$13,827.98, although the first couple of digits are difficult to make out
on the 1st Natl. receipt, but it's fairly obvious that the totals are identical.
>>> "Belin did not ask him [Waldman] to explain how, before the advent of computers, an order could be shipped 700 miles, received, processed and deposited in 24 hours." <<<
Simple -- Oswald mailed the Money Order via Air Mail. And Air Mail is much
faster than regular "snail" mail.
>>> "Today, due to people like Raymond Gallagher, and especially John Armstrong, we can show that it is highly doubtful that Oswald ever ordered that rifle." <<<
Even though handwriting experts have PROVEN that the writing on the
Money Order and on the American Rifleman magazine coupon were the
handwriting/(handprinting) of Lee Harvey Oswald....right?
CTers think that some OTHER rifle from Klein's was shipped to Oswald's
Dallas P.O. Box, is that it? If that's not "it", then what IS the "it"?
We know beyond ALL doubt that Oswald possessed a rifle in the year
1963. Marina Oswald verified this fact, because Marina saw the rifle
herself on multiple occasions, and saw Lee dry-firing the weapon.
Plus, Jeanne DeMohrenschildt also saw the rifle while visiting the
Oswalds in Dallas in 1963. [See 9 H 315.]
INSTANT REPLAY (JUST FOR THE LAUGHS):
>>> "...And especially John Armstrong..." <<<
Thanks for the opening here. I always enjoy it when the opportunity
arises to re-post the following text from pages 565 to 567 of Endnotes
in Mr. Bugliosi's "Reclaiming History" (dealing with Mr. Armstrong,
whom many conspiracists seem to like so well of late):
"John Armstrong actually went on to publish a 983-page book in 2003 called "Harvey and Lee: How the CIA Framed Oswald", in which he carries his fantasy about a double Oswald to such absurd lengths that not only doesn't it deserve to be dignified in the main text of my book, but I resent even having to waste a word on it in this endnote. ....
"Obviously, if Armstrong had a source for any of the things he charges, he would be only too eager to give it. Instead, his only source is his exceptionally fertile imagination. ....
"On the day of the assassination, Armstrong has both Lee Harvey Oswald and Harvey Oswald, two people who are spitting images of each other, in the Depository. .... At the moment of the assassination, HARVEY Oswald was in the second-floor lunchroom having lunch and LEE Harvey Oswald was on the sixth floor firing at Kennedy. ....
"Lee Harvey Oswald escaped arrest, but Armstrong doesn't tell his readers what happened to him thereafter, though...he tells them near the beginning of the book that he may be "very much alive"." -- Vincent T. Bugliosi
David Von Pein
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