WILLIAM KELLY SAID:
So Oswald, perhaps like serial killer Ted Bundy, had to be able to hide his psychosis pretty good in order to fool pretty much everybody who knew him.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Darn right.
Isn't this obvious, Bill?
And isn't it also obvious that Lee Oswald probably would not be boasting about shooting at General Edwin Walker to every Tom, Dick, and Harry on the street corner (or at Ruth Paine's house, in which Mrs. Paine was allowing the wife of the nutcase who shot at General Walker to live free of charge)?
WILLIAM KELLY SAID:
And his wife, who knew about the Walker shooting, didn't think he was totally out of his mind, or she wouldn't have let him visit.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
What makes you think this, Bill?
I'm pretty sure there were times when Marina thought her husband was, indeed, off his rocker. The night of April 10, 1963, was no doubt one such occasion. And March 31, 1963, was another, when Marina took the backyard photos of her strange hubby:
"I asked him then why he had dressed himself up like that, with the rifle and the pistol, and I thought that he had gone crazy, and he said he wanted to send that to a newspaper. This was not my business--it was man's business." -- Marina Oswald
WILLIAM KELLY SAID:
And that Oswald was a homicidal maniac was quite a surprise to Special Agent Hosty, who was involved in the investigation of the Walker shooting and Oswald's security case as a returning defector AT THE SAME TIME, but didn't put two and two together.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Maybe Jim Hosty of the FBI should have put two and together together. But, then too, hindsight is almost always 20/20, isn't it?
WILLIAM KELLY SAID:
And since two suspects were seen leaving the scene of the Walker shooting, then it must also be assumed that he had an accomplice, which is not in lock step with the Lone Nut case scenario that you embrace.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
There's no proof that the people seen getting into a car by one of Walker's neighbors on 4/10/63 had anything whatsoever to do with the Walker shooting. But it's fun to think they were involved, isn't it Bill?
WILLIAM KELLY SAID:
And how did he get the rifle to the scene [of the Walker shooting] -- on the bus? Hidden in a raincoat? Let's try to imagine how he did that.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Conspiracy theorists love to focus the bulk of their attention on impossible-to-answer questions like the one above, instead of focusing on the provable facts--such as Lee Harvey Oswald's known participation in the Walker shooting.
It's the same way regarding certain aspects of the JFK case too -- e.g., conspiracists always want an answer to things that they know can never be answered (otherwise their questions WOULD have been answered by now), such as:
How did Oswald manage to sneak the paper and tape out of the Book Depository Building without Troy West seeing him?
Or:
How did Oswald get the paper bag to Irving? Was it folded up inside his jacket? Or was he hiding it in his cheeks, disguised as a big hunk of chewing tobacco?
Or:
Why is it that only two measly prints of Oswald's were found on the paper bag (CE142) after the assassination? (Even though the conspiracy theorists who ask that last question should probably already know that a person doesn't always have to leave distinguishable fingerprints on an object even when a person handles that object extensively--especially when the object is paper. Paper items very often do not have observable fingerprints on them after being handled.)
WILLIAM KELLY SAID:
But what if, what if Phillips just said to the Pawn - something like "When given the opportunity, take the shot," knowing that the opportunity would be provided by moving the King into position so the practically invisible Pawn could take him out?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
It's fun to speculate, isn't it Bill?
IN ANOTHER DISCUSSION AT YouTube,
AN ANONYMOUS PERSON SAID:
David,
I enjoy the way you debunk the conspiracy kooks, but I need help with a debate. At Parkland Hospital, there is a photo of a bucket of water next to the limo. A CT kook claims that the Secret Service cleaned it up as part of the plot.
Can you enlighten me on the facts behind this?
Thanks!
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
No one has ever proved the bucket was part of any plot or cover-up. And common sense would indicate that it was not. Who would do something like that in front of a bunch of cameras?
If there was any "Limo Clean-Up" at Parkland, while certainly not a recommended thing to do at that time (in fact, it would have been mighty stupid), it was not part of any cover-up. For one thing, how would any cover-up/clean-up crew know what to eliminate and what not to disturb at that early hour? JFK wasn't even dead yet.
DAVID VON PEIN LATER ADDED:
From Vince Bugliosi's book:
"Critics claim that the backseat was washed out with a bucket of water, citing photographs that allegedly show a bucket near the limousine. Nurse’s aide Shirley Randall was reportedly asked to perform such a task, but in the excitement, never got around to it. (Manchester, "Death of a President", p.180 footnote)
But on the face of it, it appears highly unlikely that the Secret Service would wash away the “crime scene” before the FBI criminalists could examine the car, and there is no testimony or statement from anyone that this was done."
-- Vincent Bugliosi; Page 33 of Endnotes in "Reclaiming History"
Also See:
Shirley Randall's 11/22/63 statement here, and this statement made by Parkland Hospital orderly Joe Richards.
David Von Pein
October 1, 2010
June 2015
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