>>> "Do you really believe that [T.F.] Bowley arrived on the scene [of J.D. Tippit's murder] at 1:10 (that's his sworn statement) but waited SIX minutes before he called the dispatcher??" <<<
DAVID VON PEIN:
Of course not. But apparently you must think that happened, since Bowley's
radio call occurred no earlier than 1:16 (see later discussion).
But only conspiracy kooks are silly enough to wholly and religiously rely
on the time estimates given by witnesses, while ignoring the mountain
of "OSWALD POSITIVELY KILLED TIPPIT" evidence at the same time.
You knew better than to ask a non-kook that last question, didn't you
>>> "He [Bowley] took a quick look and grabbed Tippit's radio and reported that an officer had been shot at 404 East 10th Street. He didn't stand around pickin' his nose for six minutes." <<<
Segue Time (this is slightly "Off-Topic", but it's kind of related in a sense too):
I think this would be a good time for me to again bring up the
assassination sub-topic of Lee Harvey Oswald supposedly staying in his shoebox-sized rented room at 1026 N. Beckley Avenue for "3 or 4
minutes" on 11/22/63 (per Earlene Roberts' Warren Commission
Maybe Oswald (who we KNOW was "in a hurry", per Mrs. Roberts) was in
his teeny-tiny room for "3 or 4 minutes" "pickin' his nose"...instead
of grabbing his gun and jacket and high-tailing it out of 1026 Beckley
as fast as he could. (And when he left his room he was "making tracks
pretty fast", per Mrs. Roberts.)
This isn't a perfect segue from the "Did T.F. Bowley Take 6 Minutes To Call
The Police?" sub-topic, but Walt's make-believe "6-minute" interval
between the time he thinks Bowley arrived at the scene of the Tippit
murder and the time Bowley used the police radio* reminded me of the
Earlene Roberts "3 or 4 minutes" timeline regarding Oswald's
activities over on Beckley shortly before LHO killed Officer Tippit.
* = BTW: This make-believe interval of "6 minutes" between Walt's
unsupportable "1:10" exact timing for Bowley's arrival at the murder
scene and the time when Bowley called in the shooting on Tippit's
radio would actually probably be MORE than 6 minutes, because Bowley's
radio call probably really occurred at closer to 1:17 or even 1:18.
This transcript of the DPD Radio Logs for 11/22/63 does, indeed, show
Bowley making his call to police at 1:16. But just have a look at all
the OTHER calls and radio traffic that is occurring ALSO at exactly 1:16
per the DPD log. There's a bunch of radio traffic at 1:16 BEFORE Bowley
ever even keys the mike for the first time, plus there's a gap in the
transmissions, denoted in the transcript by the words "Long pause,
If Bowley's call was made at 1:16, it must have been close to 1:16:58 or
1:16:59, darn close to kicking over to 1:17 anyway, I would think.
(See comments regarding Dale Myers on this timing issue later in this post.)
Getting back to Mrs. Roberts again for a moment:
While looking through Mrs. Earlene Roberts' WC testimony once again
just now, I took note of this very interesting comment made by Roberts
RIGHT AFTER she gave Joseph Ball of the WC her "3 or 4 minutes"
MR. BALL -- "How long did he stay in the room?"
MRS. ROBERTS -- "Oh, maybe not over 3 or 4 minutes. Just long enough, I guess, to go in there and get a jacket and put it on and he went out zipping it."
So, Roberts is really telling us there in that testimony that Oswald
was in his room "JUST LONG ENOUGH, I GUESS, TO GO IN THERE AND GET A
JACKET AND PUT IT ON".
Roberts' comment about a specific LENGTH of time ("MAYBE NOT OVER 3 OR
4 MINUTES") should also be weighed against her very next words, which
also concern the subject of how long Oswald was in that tiny room -- "JUST
LONG ENOUGH, I GUESS, TO GO IN THERE AND GET A JACKET AND PUT IT ON".
And my own personal guess is that it does NOT take "3 or 4 minutes" in
real, actual time to merely dash into a crackerbox-sized room, grab a
jacket and a revolver, and then dash back out again.
Even if Oswald took the extra time to fill his gun with six bullets
while he was inside his room that day (which is quite possible indeed,
even probable), the total time he would need to spend in that room
would still not add up to nearly "3 or 4 minutes", in my opinion.
(Unless Oswald had a sudden attack of arthritis.)
>>> "Benavides was the first citizen to use Tippit's radio at about 1:08/1:09." <<<
Goodie! Mythical timestamping put on Domingo Benavides' use of the
police radio by a conspiracy-hungry kook! What a surprise.
In reality, of course, Walt has no solid reason at all to think that
Benavides' unsuccessful effort to call the police dispatcher on
Tippit's car radio took place "at about 1:08/1:09".
In point of fact, that "clicking" made by Benavides keying the
microphone occurred at precisely 1:16 PM, per the DPD Radio Logs.
Walt has decided he'll turn the verified 1:16 attempted radio call by
Benavides into a call that took place at Walt's make-believe time of
Allow me to quote Dale Myers (from his outstanding and thoroughly-
researched book "WITH MALICE"). And if there's one single person I
trust more than anyone else on Earth when it comes to the topic of
J.D. Tippit's murder, it's Mr. Dale K. Myers:
"Beginning at 1:16 p.m., a microphone is keyed a number of times on channel one of the Dallas police tapes, as if someone were 'pumping' the microphone button of a police radio. This continues for a little over 90 seconds, right up until the time passing motorist T.F. Bowley successfully contacts the dispatcher [so, as alluded to earlier, per Myers' detailed research into the Tippit murder, this would indicate that Bowley's call to police could not possibly have actually occurred until approximately 1:17:30, at the earliest, not 1:16]. .... Considering the timing of the sounds heard in the Dallas police radio recordings, and the corroborating accounts of three witnesses, the murder of Tippit probably occurred about 90 seconds prior to Benavides' bungled attempt to notify the dispatcher. Therefore, there is good reason to believe that J.D. Tippit was shot at approximately 1:14:30 p.m." -- Pages 86-87; "WITH MALICE: LEE HARVEY OSWALD AND THE MURDER OF OFFICER J.D. TIPPIT" (c.1998)
David Von Pein
LINK TO ORIGINAL POST (MARCH 13, 2008)