GIL JESUS SAID:
HOW THE HELL DID HIDELL GET THE RIFLE IF HIS NAME WAS NOT ON THE APPLICATION AND THUS NOT "ENTITLED" TO TAKE MAIL OUT OF THE BOX??????
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Gil still doesn't get it! He must have taken a double dose of idiot pills today.
Let's go through this again....
1.) Oswald WAS Hidell (although this fact is meaningless when it comes to this particular discussion regarding Oswald's Dallas PO Box).
2.) Oswald, quite obviously, WAS "entitled" to take mail out of his own box--#2915 in Dallas--regardless of WHO the mail was addressed to.
3.) As mentioned multiple times previously, Klein's Sporting Goods Co. in Chicago evidently was at fault for not including the proper "firearms form" (or whatever it was officially called) on the "Hidell" rifle package in March 1963. (Or maybe the form somehow became detached from the package; maybe it simply fell off; who knows? But, in any event, there's no indication, AFAIK, of that extra form being attached to Oswald's/Hidell's rifle parcel, which would likely have required a signature from the addressee.)
4.) Since #3 is true in this particular case regarding A. Hidell's rifle package, there would have been no questions asked by the post office clerk who handed Lee Oswald the "Hidell" package after Oswald handed the clerk the slip of paper that LHO retrieved from inside his PO Box (which is a slip, btw, that had NO NAME OR NUMBER on it whatsoever, according to Postal Inspector Harry D. Holmes):
HARRY HOLMES -- "The man would take this card out. There is nothing on this card. There is no name on it, not even a box number on it. He comes around and says, "I got this out of my box." And he says, "What box?" "Box number so and so." They look in a bin where they have this by box numbers, and whatever the name on it, whatever they gave him, he just hands him the package, and that is all there is to it."
WESLEY LIEBELER -- "Ordinarily, they won't even request any identification because they would assume if he got the notice out of the box, he was entitled to it?"
MR. HOLMES -- "Yes, sir."
MR. LIEBELER -- "It is very possible that that in fact is what happened in this case?"
MR. HOLMES -- "That is in theory. I would assume that is what happened."
5.) End result -- Lee Harvey Oswald walks away from the Dallas post office with a rifle package addressed to "A. Hidell".
6.) All of the above points are totally irrelevant in the long run.
Why?
Because even if some postal regulations were broken somewhere along the line (by either Klein's or the postal authorities in Dallas) that enabled Oswald to receive his rifle from Klein's Sporting Goods more easily, the FACT remains (based on the rock-solid evidence that indicates it DID happen) that Lee Harvey Oswald positively DID take possession of Rifle #C2766 in late March 1963 (i.e., LHO received the very same rifle that was shipped by Klein's on 3/20/63).
Therefore, even if we were to make the wild and silly assumption that a kook named Gil J. Jesus is TOTALLY CORRECT with respect to his continual arguments about the postal regulations and the PO Box applications, etc., it simply DOES NOT MATTER HERE. And that's because Lee Harvey Oswald obviously DID take possession of the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle that the super-kooks like Gil have tried so desperately to keep out of the hands of President Kennedy's assassin.
David Von Pein
March 13, 2010
