PAUL DANZIG SAID:
Why do you Honestly think Oswald went to the movie theater?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
To get off the sunlit streets and into a place where he thought he could temporarily hide from the cops that he obviously knew were chasing the man who killed Officer Tippit.
Duh.
PAUL DANZIG SAID:
What do you think was Oswald's plan after the movie theater?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
He had no "plan" at that point. That fact is obvious. He was winging it. He knew he had been seen by multiple witnesses shooting Tippit. He was trying to buy a little time by slipping into the dark theater (which, fortunately for him, was right there on Jefferson Boulevard for him to use as a temporary "hideout"; whether Oswald knew ahead of time that the theater was there or not, we can never know for certain).
PAUL DANZIG SAID:
He had no plan....So taking the rifle to the TSBD is no plan...
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Oswald had a plan to kill the President. That's obvious. But it certainly wasn't an extended plan, and it certainly wasn't a plan that was thought out a long time in advance. That's obvious too, since he couldn't have known about the motorcade driving right past his workplace until the morning of 11/19/63, at the earliest.
But his escape "plan", if he even had one fixed in his warped mind, sucked.
PAUL DANZIG SAID:
The distance between the Tippit killing and the theatre IS no walk in the park. There were no other places to hide in the surrounding area.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Is that last sentence supposed to be a question?
Anyway, Oswald's escape plan definitely lacked preparation. But, so what? How does a crappy escape plan erase the evidence of his guilt in the two 11/22/63 murders?
PAUL DANZIG SAID:
To have a plan to kill the president and no EXIT plan doesn't makes sense.
Supposedly he was smart enough to climb down from the 6th floor in 90 seconds and be spotted by Baker, NOT OUT OF BREATH I MIGHT ADD.
You make Oswald out to [be] a smart person before the shooting, but a dumbass after.
JUGGLING ACT IS FOR THE CIRCUS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Wasn't it a shame that Oswald wasn't nice enough to plan his murder of JFK in a manner that would better suit the conspiracy theorists of the world?
The willy-nilly, nearly-last-minute effort on Oswald's part is good circumstantial evidence that NO PRE-PLANNED CONSPIRACY existed in this case at all.
Naturally, all CTers want to believe otherwise (i.e., they wish to pretend that Oswald was framed and apparently ALL of the mountain of physical evidence against him was planted).
In other words, what we have in this topsy-turvy world of conspiracy promoters is this:
The conspiracy theorists actually have the guts to argue that since all of the evidence points toward Lee Harvey Oswald, this therefore means that OSWALD IS INNOCENT!
Talk about turning logic upside-down. The CTers are experts at doing just that in this case, and they always have been, all the way back to Mark Lane's early efforts in the 1960s to try and get a double-killer named Oswald off the hook.
COLIN CROW SAID:
2 things come to mind, David.
First....Mike [Williams], who is an authority on ballistics and weapons, tells us that the rifle would have to have been sighted in or practiced with to ensure accuracy after its return from New Orleans.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Pure speculation, of course. And it's meaningless speculation.
How come?
Because we KNOW that Oswald's C2766 Mannlicher-Carcano rifle was the murder weapon. There's no doubt about that proven fact.
COLIN CROW SAID:
Yet Oswald did not know of the parade route until 11/19/63. So was it him, seen at the Sports D[r]ome on more than one occasion, practicing in anticipation of the visit but unaware of the exact route? Or was it someone else who looked like him?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Probably somebody who looked like him.
But even if it was Oswald -- so what? Who cares? What does it prove or disprove?
I'll tell you one thing that it WOULD prove, however (if that person whom Garland Slack saw WAS Lee Oswald) -- it would prove that the conspiracy theorists are dead wrong about something else -- i.e., their theory that Oswald never practiced at all with his Carcano prior to the assassination.
COLIN CROW SAID:
Second....Was Oswald's escape plan really that crappy?
Admittedly, how could he know it would take as long as 20 minutes or so for them to find the SN [Sniper's Nest], even though the DP [Dallas Police] has witnesses who described its exact location within minutes of the shooting?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
So, you're a mind-reader now, eh? You somehow KNOW that Oswald knew it would take "as long as 20 minutes" for the police to find the Sniper's Nest?
What in the world makes you think that Oswald was thinking any such thing?
COLIN CROW SAID:
Let's face it, if it were not for the acutely observant supercop Tippit, the super observant Brewer and some sirens and cars, Oswald would have been free and possibly able to get across the border to Mexico. Then to Cuba.
What do you think?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Could be. That's quite possible indeed.
But, so what? What are you implying here? Are you saying that the "acutely observant supercop" named J.D. Tippit and the "super observant" shoe store manager named Johnny Calvin Brewer were NOT really "acutely observant" and "super observant" on November 22, 1963?
Are you saying we should all be suspicious and skeptical about the things Mr. Tippit and Mr. Brewer did on that day in Dallas? If so, why?
Brewer, IMO, was a real hero that day. (So was Ted Callaway. Can you imagine actually having the balls to take the gun from under a dead policeman's body and use it to try and track down the murderer YOURSELF before the police arrived on the scene? Incredible. And brave. Of course, some CTers think Callaway is nothing but a rotten liar too. But such is the way with conspiracy kooks.)
David Von Pein
April 13, 2010
