JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS
(PART 1225)


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

A key point to be made regarding Lee Harvey Oswald's involvement in the J.D. Tippit murder is this:

If Lee Oswald couldn't possibly have even been at Tenth and Patton in time to shoot Officer Tippit (as many conspiracy theorists believe), then how in the world do those same CTers explain the observations of Ted Callaway and other witnesses near the scene of Tippit's murder who positively identified Oswald as the man they saw on Patton Avenue or Jefferson Boulevard right after Tippit was shot?

Surely the CTers don't think ALL of those witnesses were lying, do they? And, in particular, Ted Callaway, who got a good look at Oswald, who was right across the street from where Callaway observed him on November 22.

It seems to me that the conspiracy clowns who think Oswald could not have possibly been at the scene of the crime have a tough time backing up such a claim when witnesses like Callaway and Searcy and Patterson and Guinyard exist in the official record.

And surely the CTers aren't going to use this silly argument:

Well, yes, Dave, Callaway saw Oswald--but Callaway only saw him AFTER the shooting. He didn't actually see Oswald SHOOT Tippit.

The above argument is just crazy, if that same CTer is ALSO of the opinion that Oswald couldn't possibly have made it to 10th & Patton in time to shoot Tippit.

And it's crazy because those two things (the shooting itself and Callaway seeing Oswald up near the corner of 10th & Patton) occurred within literally SECONDS of each other.

Do CTers really think that Oswald didn't have nearly enough time to actually pull the trigger on Tippit, but he DID have ample time to be seen by Callaway, Guinyard, Patterson, et al, just a few SECONDS later?


CALLAWAY IN 1964:



CALLAWAY IN 1986:



MILES SCULL SAID:

Are you serious? Or are you just generating nonsense propaganda?

Assuming you are serious, then the question becomes: are you unaware of the fact that Oswald was impersonated many times?

If Oswald could not arrive at the scene in time, then who shot Tippit?

Well, if it wasn't Oswald, and if witnesses thought that it was, then who could it have been?

That's right!

You guessed it.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Miles ignores the fact that the gun Oswald had on him in the theater WAS THE TIPPIT MURDER WEAPON.

Miles, naturally, thinks that gun is a "plant" too.

The hilarity of you clowns never stops, does it?


MILES SCULL SAID:

That Lee's gun was the gun that killed Tippit is in dispute.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Only by conspiracy mongers like you.

Even if we throw away the two Poe shells, Oswald's gun is still tied to Tippit's murder via the other 2 shells which WERE marked by Dhority and Doughty.

You think those 2 shells are fakes too, Miles?


WALT CAKEBREAD SAID:

Ted Calloway [sic] was a blowhard used car salesman who wanted to get the limelight shining on himself.

He COULD NOT have identified Lee Oswald as the man he saw running on the sidewalk on the east side of Patton. Callaway didn't know Oswald, so he couldn't have identified him.

From the eyewitness reports, it seems likely Tippit's killer resembled Oswald, but there's no way Blowhard Callaway could be 100% certain who the stranger was.

If Calloway [sic] could be mistaken about the gun the guy was carrying (He said it was a blue .32 caliber automatic), then he certainly can't be very reliable about what the guy looked like.

The spent shells at the scene and the bullets recovered from Tippit's body prove that the gun was NOT a .32 automatic.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Repeating this gem from Walt:

"Callaway didn't know Oswald, so he couldn't have identified him."

With the above idiotic comment, Walt just won the "Stupidest Post Of The Week" award.

Congrats.

Via Walt's logic, no eyewitness could ever identify anyone that the witness didn't personally know beforehand.

This further illustrates the lengths that morons like Walt will go to in order to pretend Oswald was innocent.


WALT CAKEBREAD SAID:

Ol Blowhard Ted Id'ed Oswald AFTER....AFTER....he saw him in custody, and when the police were already saying that Oswald was guilty. That's when ol Blowhard jumped on the bandwagon.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

The kook above apparently thinks that Callaway should have made a positive I.D. of Oswald BEFORE Oswald was arrested.

I wonder how Ted could have done something like that? Perhaps the conspiracy kook can explain it for us.


WALT CAKEBREAD SAID:

Duh! What I said was, AFTER the police loudly proclaimed that Oswald was the leader of a communist band and he was the culprit who had murdered the President....THEN ol blowhard Ted Callaway jumped on the bandwagon and said ... "Yes, that's the guy I saw running away from the scene."

The cops never batted an eye, and they didn't remind him that the description he gave just minutes after the shooting did NOT match Oswald. However, they badgered the hell out of Howard Brennan who said that Oswald was NOT the man he [had] seen with a hunting rifle on the sixth floor of the TSBD during the shooting. They wouldn't accept Howard Brennan's statement, but they accepted Ted Callaway with hesitation.


WALT CAKEBREAD LATER SAID:

Hey Von Pea Brain, where have you slithered off to??? You opened this thread, don't you have the guts to continue?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

I accomplished my purpose, Walt-Kook. I was able to get you CT nuts to say more insane things as you pretend LHO was innocent.

And the "Blowhard Callaway" claptrap was the bonus prize in the CT package in this thread. Thanks.

David Von Pein
November 25, 2011
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