ANTHONY MARSH SAID:
It [Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle] was not a carbine. It was a short rifle.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
A "carbine" is a "rifle". Simple as that.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/carbine
car⋅bine
–noun
1. a light, gas-operated semiautomatic rifle.
2. (formerly) a short rifle used in the cavalry.
Why do CTers continually ignore the fact that a carbine IS a "rifle"?
HERBERT BLENNER SAID:
A rifle with a manually operated bolt is not a carbine.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Is that why every dictionary in the world says that a "Carbine" is a "Rifle", Herb?
HERBERT BLENNER SAID:
The definition that you cited asserted that a carbine is a gas-operated semiautomatic rifle. So according to your source, the statement that a carbine is a rifle is consistent with my statement that a rifle with a manually operated bolt is not a carbine.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
So, Herb, you must think that Klein's Sporting Goods (circa 1963) didn't have the slightest idea what they were doing when they placed the following words in their magazine ads (linked below). And these are words that appear TOGETHER in the VERY SAME ad:
"6.5 Italian Carbine"
and
"Turned-down bolt"
Klein's quite obviously considered a rifle with a "turned-down bolt" (i.e., "a rifle with a manually operated bolt") to also be a "carbine".
What about it, Herbert? Didn't Klein's know what they were selling? Or should they have contacted a conspiracy kook before placing the words "turned-down bolt" and "carbine" in the very same ad?
David Von Pein
September 17, 2009
