JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS
ROB CAPRIO SAID:
>>> "No, [DVP's lengthy posts relating to the actual evidence surrounding President Kennedy's assassination] made me realize even more how silly your official theory is." <<<
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Yeah, trying to shoehorn all of that evidence against Oswald into a
silly, crazy, off-the-wall theory that says "OSWALD DID IT" is totally
ridiculous, isn't it, Robby?
It's kind of like trying to prove the sun is hot. And what a
ridiculous "theory" that is!
>>> "I don't envy you for having to try and defend something so ridiculous." <<<
You're deeper into CT Kookland that I had originally envisioned. I
don't envy you either.
>>> "You are even reviewing movies for them to squash anyone from wanting to see them." <<<
You betcha. Why should filmmakers who place total lies and
unsupportable guesswork up on the cinema screen be given a free pass
when it comes to ridicule?
As Vince B. has said in virtually every interview he's given in 2007
-- "Oliver Stone's movie is one continuous lie."
And he's right, too.....
>>> "I am the sane one." <<<
By whose measuring stick? The measuring stick used by other "LHO Shot
No One" kooks?
>>> "It is only a matter of time before you have nothing left to defend." <<<
I guess that means that you think ALL of the mile-high pile of evidence favoring Lee Oswald's guilt in TWO 1963 murders is suddenly going to disappear and/or vaporize before our very eyes in the coming months/years/decades. Is that it, Mr. Kook?
IOW -- Do you think that the MC rifle (#C2766) will suddenly, in the year 2034, CEASE being a rifle bought, paid for, and possessed in the year 1963 by Lee Harvey Oswald?
And in the year 2525 (if man is still alive...), the bullet shells found in the Depository and the shells found on Tenth Street will, somehow, CEASE being bullet shells that were determined in 1963 to be shells that came out of weapons owned and possessed in '63 by a man named Lee Harvey Oswald?
And in 2784, do you think that all of the more than 12 witnesses that fingered Lee Oswald as being the lone person involved in J.D. Tippit's murder will somehow ALL be discredited to the point where Oswald's innocence in that crime is assured?
Well, Rob, at least you have your dreams.
By the way, is it going to take another 44 years for you kooks to come up with that first non-Oswald bullet or bullet shell or gun? With thousands and thousands of you kooks working on uncovering that dreaded "conspiracy", you'd think you would have at least a semi- believable and coherent assassination scenario to place on the table to try and knock the Warren Commission's version out of the box.
But, thus far, 44 years into your investigation, what have you got in the way of HARD EVIDENCE to favor a conspiracy? And what hard, verifiable evidence do you have to support the type of grandiose (and highly-hilarious) "Multi-Gunmen, One-Patsy" plot that you seem to think existed on November 22, 1963?
Your OPINIONS are not HARD EVIDENCE, btw. So let's leave the "Robcap Show" off of the table for the time being, okay? Let's see your list of HARD EVIDENCE that supports a JFK conspiracy, please.
And then, after posting that list, you can pretend that each one of your listed items HASN'T previously been thoroughly debunked/refuted/ trashed by LNers worldwide.)
>>> "Most Americans already aren't with you on this case..." <<<
And the majority of Americans certainly are not in your silly "Oz Was
A Patsy" corner either. But I guess you think that most people believe
Oswald was merely an innocent simp who never shot at anybody in '63
(not even Gen. Walker), right?
In the only poll at the below link which specifies such details (the
ABC poll from Nov. 2003), only 7% of 1,031 people polled believe that
Oswald was "Not Involved" AS ONE OF THE ACTUAL SHOOTERS IN DEALEY
PLAZA. (This ABC poll, btw, included twice the number of respondents
than the Gallup Poll included.)
>>> "...But you still have the government, media and academia backing you up." <<<
Plus all 17 pathologists who examined the case (and JFK's body) in
detail for the WC, the Clark Panel, the HSCA, and the Rockefeller
Others that "back" me up on the LN conclusion include people like
Joseph Nicol and John Lattimer.
Nicol was the independent firearms expert from Illinois called in by
the Warren Commission. It was a good move by the WC too, since there
were bound to be kooks like Rob Caprio and Ben Holmes (et al) who
would come forth years later and complain about the WC's conclusions
coming from ONLY Government-"controlled" sources, like the FBI.
But Nicol was NOT connected with the United States Government, and he
even went a step FURTHER down the "Oswald Was Guilty" road with
respect to the Tippit murder, when Nicol said that one bullet from
Tippit's body could be linked to Oswald's revolver "to the exclusion
of all other weapons", which is something even the FBI's Robert
Frazier would not confirm (and Frazier is a person whom the kooks love
to treat as a criminal and big fat liar).
Lattimer, of course, verified the validity and sheer doability of
several of the WC's conclusions when he conducted many different
shooting experiments using a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle and bullets from
the same batches that Oswald used in '63.
And EVERY single experiment/test conducted by Lattimer favored the
likelihood that Oswald could, indeed, have done just exactly what the
Warren Commission concluded Oswald did do in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63.
Rob should read the book "Kennedy And Lincoln" by Dr. Lattimer. It's
very informative and unbiased. But certain CTers probably prefer to
turn their heads the other way when faced with Lattimer's detailed
ballistics tests, which were NOT CONTROLLED IN ANY WAY BY THE U.S.
SOME V.B. QUOTES:
"The Warren Commission critics and conspiracy theorists have
succeeded in transforming a case very simple and obvious at its core--
Oswald killed Kennedy and acted alone--into its present form of the
most complex murder case, BY FAR, in world history.
"Refusing to accept the plain truth, and dedicating their
existence for over forty years to convincing the American public of
the truth of their own charges, the critics have journeyed to the
outer margins of their imaginations. Along the way, they have split
hairs and then proceeded to split the split hairs, drawn far-fetched
and wholly unreasonable inferences from known facts, and literally
invented bogus facts from the grist of rumor and speculation.
"With over 18,000 pages of small print in the 27 Warren
Commission volumes alone, and many millions of pages of FBI and CIA
documents, any researcher worth his salt can find a sentence here or
there to support any ludicrous conspiracy theory he might have. And
that, of course, is precisely what the conspiracy community has
"I am unaware of any other major event in world history which
has been shrouded in so much intentional misinformation as has the
assassination of JFK. Nor am I aware of any event that has given rise
to such an extraordinarily large number of far-fetched and conflicting
theories." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Via the pages of "Reclaiming History"
David Von Pein
LINK TO ORIGINAL POST (NOVEMBER 7, 2007)
Posted By: David Von Pein