DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>>> "If only you had an extra non-Oswald bullet to rely on. Too bad." <<<
ROB CAPRIO THEN SAID:
>>> "I've got extra bullets, Dave. Too bad for you. I have the windshield bullet, the curb bullet and the bullet that hit the sidewalk, plus the 3 for JFK and 2 for JBC." <<<
DVP THEN SAID:
>>> "Hidden in your basement, huh?" <<<
ROB THEN SAID:
>>> "Why would they be in my basement? I have a permit for my gun. They are near the gun safe." <<<
DVP NOW SAYS:
Lord H. God! I even need to talk Robby through my "basement" retort.
Well, I'm not going to. Let him figure it out (some month/year).
>>> "Where are they [all the extra bullets] indeed?" <<<
DVP NOW SAYS:
Oh, I can tell you, if you want to know. .... They're all in your
head. And NOWHERE ELSE.
The overwhelming and huge preponderance of evidence indicates that
only 3 shots were fired on 11/22/63 in Dealey Plaza, with all 3 of
those bullets coming from Oswald's gun and from the TSBD's Sniper's
The 3 spent cartridges in that SN just about prove that fact beyond
reasonable doubt, when those shell casings are coupled with this stat
right here regarding the number of shots heard by the vast majority of
Robby, of course, has a big problem when trying to reconcile the above
chart's stats into his make-believe "8 or 9 shot" shooting scenario,
because it would mean that more than NINE OUT OF EVERY TEN
witnesses in the Plaza--incredibly--missed hearing up to TWO-THIRDS
of the shots that day (if a kook named Robby is correct).
Or would Rob like to now purport that all but the 3 TSBD/SN shots were
"silenced"? Well, if so, he's got more problems and contradictions in
his theory to iron out...because that would mean that Robby-boy (and
other CT-Kooks who believe these same crazy things) will have to now
disbelieve any and all witnesses who said they DID hear some shots
coming from the FRONT of President Kennedy's car.
And I doubt that any conspiracy kook would dare abandon great
witnesses like Jean Hill and Skinny "Smoky Knoll" Holland, etc.,
because those witnesses are part of a CT-Kook's general mosaic,
which forms the fabric for the standard CTer's dreamed-up multi-
shooter conspiracy that never happened.
So, feast your eyes on this chart once again, Rob. Maybe its
significance will one day sink in:
>>> "Too bad the pictures of the windshield frame, sidewalk and curb couldn't be done away with as easily as the brain and other bullet traces (save for some fragments from the brain and JBC's wrist)." <<<
DVP NOW SAYS:
Yeah, a few photos would be MUCH harder to dispose of than a WHOLE
BRAIN taken from a dead President's head, huh Mr. Kook? (Geez.)
>>> "Talk with your government, but in the meantime check out the sidewalk and windshield bullet photos, as these are two more shots not accounted for." <<<
DVP NOW SAYS:
I've already fully explained what the official position is (and mine)
concerning the windshield bullet (actually 2 fragments from Oswald's
head-shot bullet, which fully and logically explain both damaged limo
items, the windshield crack and the dent in the chrome molding).
Why have you decided to ignore that perfectly-reasonable explanation?
(Silly question, I know; it's because you're an "Anybody But Oswald"
Conspiracy Club member, of course. You HAVE to reject the wheat and
reach for the chaff.)
>>> "Check out "The Killing of a President" by Robert Groden. Open to p. 41 and you see a photo for the manhole cover/sidewalk where a bullet hit and was found moments after the shooting." <<<
DVP NOW SAYS:
And while you're looking at TKOAP by Bob Groden, be sure to check
out Pages 20 through 40, and take note of how Groden has the giant-
sized 'nads to purport that NO SHOTS likely came from Oz's SN window
He's got only ONE trajectory line drawn from the Oswald window during
his entire 8-to-10-shot shooting spree in Dealey, but even that ONE
bullet from the SN he really doesn't think belongs there. He says that
Shot #4 "more probably" came from the Dal-Tex instead of from the
Groden probably just put in the one token "possible" shot from the
ONLY KNOWN SOURCE FOR *ALL* OF THE GUNFIRE (i.e., Oswald's Sniper's
Perch in the Depository) because he knew he might be laughed out of
the country if he didn't include just a LITTLE bit of truth in his
otherwise-tripe-filled narrative in TKOAP.
I will say, though, that TKOAP is probably my favorite conspiracy kookbook,
but only due to the good job Groden does with the photos themselves
(it's certainly not based on his always-skewed and misrepresented
interpretation of those pictures, however). But the pictures and films that
are presented in Groden's book, "The Killing Of A President", and his
DVDs are very good.
It's just too bad that all of the written words and Bob's narration
couldn't be excised from his book and video materials. That would
raise them to an A+ grade indeed.
BTW, the picture of the manhole cover on Page 41 of TKOAP does nothing
whatsoever to convince me that ANY bullet (or fragment thereof) struck
that manhole cover. I see absolutely NOTHING in that photo that could
be interpreted as a definitive mark resulting from a "bullet".
And there was most certainly NO BULLET picked up by anybody in Dealey
Plaza on 11/22/63. That's a CT Myth and nothing more. Buddy Walthers'
sheriff's report talks about the mark on the curb, but his report says
NOTHING about a bullet being recovered. Nothing. CTers have made that
story up. Period.
Anyway, the search is apparently over for the other bullets, since Rob
has admitted that he's got them near his "gun safe" in his house.
Please snap a few photos and post them here, Rob. The world's been
waiting to see those bullets for nearly 44 years.
BTW #2, also on Page 41 of TKOAP, Mr. Groden does a nice job of
totally misrepresenting what the Warren Commission said with respect
to the limousine's chrome damage, when Groden claims that the Warren
Commission "ignored" the dent in the chrome strip in the limousine,
which is a blatant lie.
Truth is, the Commission confronted the chrome damage head-on, both in
its Final Report (see the bottom of Page 77 of the WCR, linked HERE)
and via the testimony of the FBI's Robert Frazier, when the WC's Allen
Dulles had this verbal exchange with Frazier:
DULLES -- "...The indentation in the chrome around the
windshield....could that have been caused by a fragment of a bullet?"
FRAZIER -- "Yes, it very easily could have. It would not have been
caused, for instance, by a bullet which was traveling at its full
velocity from a rifle, but merely from a fragment traveling at fairly
high velocity which struck the inside surface of the chrome."
DULLES -- "Could that have been caused by any of the fragments that
you have identified as having been found on the front seat or near the
front seat of the car?"
FRAZIER -- "Yes. I believe it could have by either, in fact, of the
two fragments of rifle bullets found in the front seat."
David Von Pein
LINK TO ORIGINAL POST (OCTOBER 31, 2007)