DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
November 24, 1963, newspaper headline:
"Dallas Police Link Oswald To
Rifle Used To Kill Kennedy"
JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:
The Dallas police didn’t link squat.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
That's right, John, just pretend that the Dallas Police Department (DPD) didn't "link" Oswald to the rifle via the backyard photos on Sat. night, 11/23 (plus the Klein's documents found by the FBI).
I'm supposed to think those things are just "squat", right John?
JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:
Please. You can’t identify the specific weapons in the photos. And it was the FBI that found the alleged Klein’s order, not the Dallas police.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
That's a nitpicky point about the FBI vs. the DPD finding the Klein's evidence. As I said above, it was the FBI who found that evidence, but it was shared quickly with the DPD. Hence, the newspaper article's title.
Yes, you're right about the backyard photos not yielding enough detail to say for sure it was the Carcano in the picture (up until 1978 anyway when the HSCA verified it). But the DPD also had Oswald's "I never owned a rifle" lie to guide them to the truth as well. After the backyard pic was discovered, the DPD knew they had Oswald trapped in a lie....a lie he didn't need to tell if he was innocent of shooting the President.
JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:
The HSCA didn’t “verify” squat. But it’s not “nitpicky” to point out that the headline credits the police for something they didn’t do.
By the way, a photo (even if authentic) doesn’t demonstrate “ownership” of a thing.
JOHN IACOLETTI ALSO ADDED:
By the way, according to Fritz, Oswald didn’t say he never owned any rifle.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Yes, John, you are correct on that last point you made. But Oswald said he had not owned a rifle "for a long time", which was certainly a bald-faced lie on LHO's part.
From Captain Fritz' Warren Commission testimony [at 4 H 214]:
MR. FRITZ -- "I asked him if he owned a rifle and he said he did not. I asked him if he had ever owned a rifle. He said a good many years ago he owned a small rifle but he hadn't owned one for a long time. I asked him if he owned a rifle in Russia and he said, "You know you can't own a rifle in Russia." He said, "I had a shotgun over there. You can't own a rifle in Russia." And he denied owning a rifle of any kind."
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But my thanks to John Iacoletti for pointing out the "never owned a rifle" mistake. I've made a correction regarding that point at my webpage here.
DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:
Just "For The Record" and "FYI"....
Here's a footnote regarding the "Did Oswald Say He Never Owned A Rifle In His Whole Life?" subject....
While I would tend to put more faith in the detailed reports and testimony of Dallas Police Homicide Captain J. Will Fritz (because Fritz was the main person who interrogated Lee Oswald), I also want to point out that there is some evidence to support the idea that Oswald said he had NEVER owned a rifle. And that evidence exists in the FBI report filed jointly on 11/23/63 by James Hosty and James Bookhout (see Commission Exhibit No. 832 and Warren Report Page 612).
In that Hosty/Bookhout report, it says that Oswald "denied ever owning a rifle himself".
BRETT LASKO SAID:
With all of the hard evidence that links Oswald to the assassination, how can you [John Iacoletti] still believe in a conspiracy? What hard evidence is there linking anyone else?
FRANK BADALSON SAID:
His hard evidence is merely "Oswald didn't do it".
JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:
“Hard evidence” such as what?
BRETT LASKO SAID:
Are you serious? Have you been living under a rock?
JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:
Why is it that the WC faithful always talk about “all this evidence” but rarely actually cite any?
BRETT LASKO SAID:
Just a few: Oswald purchased the rifle by mail order in his handwriting. He was photographed with the same rifle. He fired the rifle at General Walker. He brought the rifle to work in a paper bag. He was seen shooting the rifle. His palm print was found on the barrel. Three shots were heard and three spent hulls were found at the 6th floor window. Kennedy and Connally were hit by bullets which were matched to his rifle. Witnesses saw him shoot Tippit and his revolver was the murder weapon also ordered in his handwriting.
I offered up just a few. It's your turn John. Let's see some hard evidence, because every time you conspiracy buffs are asked, you only come up with quotes from Oliver Stone.
DAVID MEDZORIAN SAID:
You [John Iacoletti] don’t know what you’re talking about. They had enough legitimate, credible evidence on Oswald the first day to convict him had the case gone to trial. The gun was his, the shells came from his gun, the backyard photos of him holding the weapon...and so much more. Never mind his cold blooded murder of Officer Tippit. The Dallas police, for all their faults, had their man within 90 minutes of the assassination.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
More evidence against Oswald (I added #21 just today [5/12/2022]; I should have had it on this list long ago, but it somehow wasn't included; but better late than never):
DVP LATER LINKED TO THIS WEBPAGE:
ISOLATING THE EVIDENCE: A CONSPIRACIST'S FORTE
JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:
The notion that several things that individually aren’t conclusive evidence of anything somehow combine to become conclusive evidence is as laughable as the Warren Commission’s conclusions.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Boy, John, you are completely lost. No reasonable person who examines all the things we know Oswald did on 11/21 and 11/22 could possibly conclude he was completely innocent. The things Lee Oswald did on those two days (and the things he said to Buell Frazier), when added together with the physical evidence in the case, convict Oswald of the two crimes he was charged with on Nov. 22. And there's nothing any conspiracy believer can do to change that basic fact.
JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:
“Reasonable” defined as “agrees with David von Pein’s [sic] assumptions”.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Try ADDING THINGS TOGETHER for once, John. When you do, it becomes much much easier to arrive at the only logical conclusion in this case --- i.e., Lee H. Oswald was a double-murderer.
And you can start by adding these two things together.
For more help with "Addition", go here:
JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:
Leaving work is not evidence of murder. A ring in a cup is not evidence of murder.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
For some reason, John just refuses to add anything up. But that's what you have to do in ANY murder case---ADD UP the evidence (even the small pieces, like "leaving work early" and "leaving a ring and $170 behind"). Not any ONE thing PROVES Oswald's guilt. It's EVERYTHING together that turns that trick.
David Von Pein
May 12-13, 2022
