CLIFF VARNELL SAID:
Physical evidence trumps photos of physical evidence.
Photos can be faked.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Not in this (JFK) case, it doesn't (if you're a conspiracy theorist, that is). Many CTers think it's ALL fake evidence --- both the actual physical evidence is fake/phony/planted/manufactured (per many CTers) and many of the photos are fake/phony (per many CTers) as well.
So if you're a conspiracy theorist in this case, nothing trumps anything (except the CTer's vivid imagination, which seems to trump everything under the sun---even Lee Harvey Oswald's unusual and guilty-like actions on Nov. 21st and 22nd, 1963).
STEVE THOMAS SAID:
The theory is that you can hit a moving target with a bolt action rifle three times in less than six seconds.
So, they tested that out, and sure enough it can be done. So, the theory is valid.
But is it reliable? Can you consistently prove that theory over multiple tests?
Well, no, you can't.
The theory is valid, but not reliable.
A theory has to be both valid and reliable.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
So, you're saying that if it can't be duplicated A LOT OF THE TIME, then we have to say that Oswald couldn't possibly have done the deed on 11/22, is that correct?
(Excuse me if I giggle a little bit here.)
Also --- Do you think your same "Valid But Unreliable" conclusion also applies to the Single-Bullet Theory? I'm thinking of the 2004 Australian test, which essentially showed that the SBT is "valid" (with respect to the basic path that the 2004 test bullet took through two "bodies", with the missile ending up in one unbroken piece).
But until the SBT is duplicated perfectly a total of TEN times (or whatever number you decide on), then the theory is still to be considered "unreliable"? Is that it?
IMO, it sounds to me like you, Steve Thomas, are just looking for excuses to dismiss even a "valid" theory. So you're piling on more and more requirements to keep from having to accept a theory that destroys part of your "conspiracy" stance.
(There's a word for this type of thing, isn't there? It starts with a D, I think.)
STEVE THOMAS SAID:
Makes me wonder why you put "bodies" in quotes.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Because during the SBT test done in Australia for the Discovery Channel program "JFK: Beyond The Magic Bullet", they didn't fire a bullet through two real human bodies (quite obviously). They used expensive surrogate torsos (dummies). Hence the reason I put quotation marks around the word "bodies".
(Were you just pulling my chain with that question, Steve?) :)
David Von Pein
March 21, 2018
