JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS
(PART 939)


JIM OSTROWSKI SAID:

[Buell Wesley] Frazier is lying. He was definitely not out on the front steps with Shelley and Lovelady. 5 will get you 10 if he wasn't in the basement of the TSBD the whole time of the shooting playing with the power switches to the elevators. That's why Baker and Truly had to take the stairs.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

You're nuts.

Of course Wesley Frazier was on the steps of the TSBD. He has always said that he was on those steps--from Day 1.

In front of the Warren Commission in 1964, Wesley Frazier said this:

WESLEY FRAZIER -- "I went out there to see him [JFK] and just like everybody else was, I was standing on the steps there and watched for the parade to come by and so I did and I stood there until he come by."

JOSEPH BALL -- "Did you go out there with somebody?"

FRAZIER -- "Yes, sir; I did."

BALL -- "Who did you go out there with?"

FRAZIER -- "I stayed around there pretty close to Mr. Shelley and this boy Billy Lovelady."


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And in 1986, at the TV trial in London, Frazier talks extensively about being on the steps:

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JIM OSTROWSKI SAID:

Should be easy to prove. He's on the steps with those guys in Altgens 6 or in the Hughes film, right David?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Frazier is back up in the shadows on the TSBD stairs, just like he told Gerry Spence in 1986.

You conspiracy kooks are just nuts.


JIM OSTROWSKI SAID:

And so Frazier was telling the truth when he told Spence he'd never been asked that before (23 years later)? Isn't this something that Fritz [and] the FBI would have wondered about?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

You're the kook who thinks Wesley Frazier lied about being on the front steps of the Book Depository Building at the time of the assassination. You figure it out.


JIM OSTROWSKI SAID:

Who was the lady he [Frazier] spoke with on the steps after looking around?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

What's the difference? You wouldn't believe a word he said anyway.

I'll bet you think Frazier took a rifle out of his trunk and took it into the TSBD on 11/22, don't you?


JIM OSTROWSKI SAID:

And he saw Oswald or his double leave the premises?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Probably not. That's something he never said to anybody until 2002:

http://c-spanvideo.org/2002 Interview With Buell Wesley Frazier

I doubt that Frazier saw Oswald at all after 12:30 PM. Wesley, for some unknown reason, added that falsehood to his story in 2002, which is a story that completely contradicts these comments from his 11/22/63 affidavit:

"I did not see Lee anymore after about 11:00 AM today, and at that time we were both working, and we were on the first floor."

BTW, Frazier also said this in his November 22nd affidavit:

"I was standing on the front steps of the building when the parade came by, and I watched the parade go by. After President Kennedy had got out of my sight, I heard three shots. I stood there, then people started running by, and I turned, and went back in the building and got my lunch and eat it."


JIM OSTROWSKI SAID:

How would [Frazier] have managed to witness [Oswald leaving] if he immediately ducked back into the basement before Hughes started filming?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Frazier didn't "immediately" go down into the basement. He stood on the front steps for a short time. (Which means, of course, that Oswald very likely walked right past him, but Wesley never saw him.)

And I think you're mixing up the Hughes film with Mark Bell's film.

Nobody else in the world that I know of thinks Frazier was lying about his whereabouts at the time of the assassination. You're a lone kook in that regard, Jim.

David Von Pein
April 2010