JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS
(PART 445)


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

What gave you the idea that they [the two "Marguerite Oswalds" that appear in John Armstrong's 2003 book "Harvey And Lee"] were intended to impersonate each other?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Okay. Whatever.

There's nothing like needless complications surrounding the MOTHER of the "patsy" to make your Patsy Plot go off smooth as clockwork. Right, Rich?


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

They used the same name but lived separate lives in separate locations. Nowhere did Armstrong indicate they tried to pass as each other.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Using the "same name" certainly sounds like a form of "impersonation" to me.

Or was it a mere coincidence that the "fake" Marguerite decided to use the name of the real Marguerite?

Just make up an answer. After all, I'm sure that's what Armstrong does in his case-solving gem "Harvey And Lee". Right, Rich?


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

If you read the book and looked at the evidence[,] you'd know that.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

I'm fairly certain that my weak bladder wouldn't last beyond the table of contents.


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

I don't know if you'd know bullshit if you stepped in it.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Sure I would. After all, I'm talking to you about this silly nonsense that never happened regarding LHO and his mother, aren't I? And nothing stinks worse than this BS we're talking about in this thread.


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

I made no statement regarding whether or not H&L sold well. It had a limited printing.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Well, since I wasn't talking to you when I said what I said (I was replying to Rudy Lasparri's post there), your comment here doesn't mean much.

But, just for the record, I did misunderstand and misinterpret Rudy's response on that point regarding his wife and the distribution of the book from 2003 to 2007.

I guess he meant he could check the sales records for "Harvey And Lee" (aka: Tripe Between Book Covers) and find out if I personally had bought a copy between '03 and '07.

Obviously, he's not going to find my name in his records. But since he also apparently has me mixed up with David A. Reitzes, perhaps he wouldn't even be looking for DVP when conducting such a search. ~shrug~


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

It's all there, but I'm not surprised that Bug [Vincent T. Bugliosi, Esq.] couldn't find it.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Funny, though, that not a single soul who worked for the Warren Commission or the HSCA or the Rockefeller Commission, or anybody else on the planet, could come up with this definitive "evidence" that there were double Lee Harvey Oswalds AND double Marguerite Oswalds wandering around prior to JFK's assassination.

I guess you're probably not surprised, though, that the big, bad Government couldn't find any hint of this "evidence" either. Right, Rich?

After all, the WC and HSCA (15 years apart) probably couldn't find a streetcar if they had a transfer in their hands and the steetcar was pointed out to them. (Per Jim Garrison's funny comment to Johnny Carson on January 31, 1968.)
Right, Rich?

It took John Armstrong to come to the rescue and reveal the real truth about the assassination and its participants. Right?

Gotcha.


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

I guess the SBT [Single-Bullet Theory] uses common sense.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Yep. Sure does. Every step of the way. Like HERE.

But I guess an anti-SBTer's "THREE BULLETS DID THE SAME JOB AS JUST CE399 AND NOBODY IN GOVERNMENT REALLY NOTICED (OR CARED)" theory is supposedly much higher up on the "Common Sense" scale than is the Single-Bullet Conclusion.

Right, Rich?


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

Armstrong never said they [the two "Oswalds"] both worked at the TSBD. Nor did he say they were identical in appearance. One was 5'7" and the other 5'10". One was 135 lbs, the other was 165. One had blue eyes, the other hazel.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:



Another great job by the Patsy Plotters there! They're going to try to pass off one of those "Oswalds" as the other one, despite the differences in appearance you just mentioned.

Or wasn't the "second" Oswald supposed to be "impersonating" the first Oswald at all? If not, then what the hell was he doing in the Depository along with the "other" Oswald on November 22nd? (Or did Vince B. supposedly get that wrong too?)

Great plot you're placing your faith in there, Rich. You might be only a couple of baby steps away from endorsing Brian David Andersen at this rate.

From having talked with you a year or two ago during my short stay as a participant on your forum at JFKResearch.com [now defunct], I had the impression that you were a reasonable CTer (vs. being really "out there" in cuckoo land). I can see now I should re-evaluate that original assessment.

And your last Black Op Radio appearance didn't help either. I couldn't believe some of the shit you uttered on that program. Will next Thursday's Black Op appearance be any better in the "reasonable" department?


REPLAY:

One was 5'7" and the other 5'10". One was 135 lbs, the other was 165.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

So, then, I guess the Lee H. Oswald who was picked up by the Dallas Police in the Texas Theater is yet a THIRD "Oswald", huh Rich?

Because the "Texas Theater" Oswald was 5'9" tall and weighed 150 pounds. And yet you've described NEITHER of your two "Oswalds" as having those physical stats.

Care to go for a fourth?


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

RH ["Reclaiming History"] is on the top of the crap pile -- I know, because
I read it.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Well, then, tell me -- how did you like this excellent part of that book?:

"The conspiracy community regularly seizes on one slip of the tongue, misunderstanding, or slight discrepancy to defeat twenty pieces of solid evidence; accepts one witness of theirs, even if he or she is a provable nut, as being far more credible than ten normal witnesses on the other side; treats rumors, even questions, as the equivalent of proof; leaps from the most minuscule of discoveries to the grandest of conclusions; and insists that the failure to explain everything perfectly negates all that is explained." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Page xliii of "Reclaiming History" (c.2007)


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

If you knew what you're talking about, you'd know that they were aware that the FBI located and seized school records of both men.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Let's see those records. Does Armstrong have copies of them, by chance?


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

If there was only one [Lee Harvey Oswald], how did he attend 2 schools, one in Fort Worth and one in New Orleans, at the same time?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Beats me. This is Armstrong's batch of nonsense. Let him figure it out. (And he has figured it out to his "Double Oswald" satisfaction, right? Right.)


RICH DELLAROSA SAID:

Everyone who disagrees with you is retarded.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Not necessarily. But everybody who puts a lot of faith and stock in a stupid, never-could-have-happened-in-a-million-years fairy tale of a theory like John Armstrong's theory could be looked upon as being kind of "retarded", yes.

But sometimes CTers are just "wrong" -- not really "retarded". Of course, when we're talking about the conspiracy-loving kooks at the acj forum, then being retarded is a prerequisite for posting there, yes.

David Von Pein
February 21, 2009