BILL BROWN SAID:
Miles [Scull],
If you don't mind, could you address the fact that you can't even tell if that is a male or a female in that picture that you're saying is a dead ringer for Oswald?
Could you also address the fact that you still haven't showed me proof of Oswald, or even a look alike, getting into the Rambler on Elm Street?
And could you explain to me what difference it makes as to who took the picture when what really matters is what the picture shows, or doesn't show in this case?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
All very well-stated by Bill Brown above. Miles has shown none of these things, and yet we're supposed to bow down and accept that "Harvey" was making his way toward a Rambler, based on something very blurry and indistinct in the background of a photograph [shown below]. (And, btw, where's the "Rambler" in the Allen picture you love so much?)
It also doesn't bother conspiracy theorists like Miles Scull (in the least) that there's ironclad proof of Lee Oswald being on a bus at the time when Miles wants to put him (or is it the make-believe "Harvey"?) on Elm Street.
There's the bus transfer found in Oswald's shirt pocket (with Cecil McWatters' unique punch mark on it), plus Mary Bledsoe's testimony, plus the fact that Oswald himself told the police he got on a bus after leaving the TSBD and then switched to a cab when the bus wouldn't move because of the traffic jam.
And Oswald didn't lie all of the time after his arrest. Just most of the time. Whenever the subject matter turned to the assassination or his weapons, he'd lie like a cheap rug. But in the "bus" instance, he had no reason to lie about that. Being on a bus doesn't really harm him or incriminate him in any way at all, which is really another reason why I fail to see why so many conspiracy theorists make such a huge effort to take Oswald off of that bus.
If you want to see just how big a liar Lee Oswald was, check out these three articles:
ONE --- TWO --- THREE
Back to the bus topic:
Mary Bledsoe is yet another of the many witnesses that Miles and his ilk are forced to either ignore or call a liar when it comes to positive identification of Lee Oswald at various locations on November 22nd.
Bledsoe knew Lee Harvey Oswald on sight from having rented a room to him just one month earlier. And Bledsoe positively identified LHO as being on McWatters' bus shortly after the assassination.
Plus: An intriguing part of Bledsoe's testimony that I always find interesting (and unique) is when she talks about deliberately trying to avoid looking at Oswald on the bus. She didn't want him to see her either, because she didn't like him (based on his one-week stay at her roominghouse in October 1963):
Mr. BALL - Well, did you look at him as he got off the bus?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - No; I sure didn't. I didn't want to know him.
Mr. BALL - Well, you think you got enough of a glimpse of him to be able to recognize him?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Oh, yes.
Mr. BALL - You think you might be mistaken?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Oh, no.
Mr. BALL - You didn't look very carefully, did you?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - No; I just glanced at him, and then looked the other way and I hoped he didn't see me.
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Now, a question I'd have for conspiracy believers would be this --- If it really wasn't Lee Harvey Oswald that Mary E. Bledsoe saw on Cecil McWatters' bus on 11/22/63, then why in the world would Mrs. Bledsoe have had a specific desire to want to deliberately avoid him on the bus?
It's obvious from her testimony that Bledsoe saw Oswald on the bus, recognized him as the same person she had (in effect) kicked out of her roominghouse a month earlier, and she didn't want to have anything to do with him after seeing him on the bus.
Now, would Bledsoe have had those feelings if a total stranger to her had boarded the bus, instead of Oswald?
Food for thought.
David Von Pein
February 24, 2009 [This forum link is no longer available.]
[Edited and revised November 4, 2013]
