DVP's JFK ARCHIVES: 12/1/24

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Part 1383 of my "JFK Assassination Arguments" series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of December 1—31, 2024. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.

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DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

The video linked below is a revised version of a CBS-TV interview with Gladys Johnson, the landlady at the Beckley Avenue roominghouse where Lee Harvey Oswald was renting a room in November of 1963.

The first version of this video that I originally created and saved to my computer back in 2011 has a "November 23" date attached to it, which I now realize is incorrect. The interview with Mrs. Johnson actually occurred on the day of JFK's assassination itself (November 22, 1963), not the 23rd.

Hence, my desire to correct my mistake and create a new and accurate version of the interview for my video archives. Plus, I've also been able to locate 20 seconds of additional footage from the interview with Mrs. Johnson, which I've placed at the end of this new video:

David Von Pein
December 1, 2024

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CORY SANTOS SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Yes, those things mentioned by Cory above are most certainly "circumstantial evidence" of Lee Oswald's guilt. And I don't see how anyone who knows anything at all about Oswald's movements on 11/22/63 could reasonably argue otherwise.

Oh yes, I know that many devoted conspiracy theorists will continue to argue in favor of Oswald's innocence in both the JFK and J.D. Tippit murders. But are such "LHO Didn't Do It" arguments truly reasonable and sensible and realistic arguments based on the sum total of evidence that exists in the Kennedy/Tippit cases? I think not. Such a belief in Lee Oswald's innocence is not even close to being reasonable....or realistic.

Speaking of "circumstantial evidence", it's kind of interesting to see that in Vincent Bugliosi's massive 2007 book on the JFK assassination ("Reclaiming History"), Vince utilized a large number of circumstantial facts and occurrences in an effort to piece together, as Vince would say, a strong "mosaic" of guilt surrounding Lee Harvey Oswald.

In Chapter 15 of Bugliosi's book, "Summary Of Oswald's Guilt", Vince lists 53 things that point in the direction of Lee Oswald's guilt, the vast majority of which are most certainly "circumstantial" in nature (see link below). So, as we can see, a good, strong case for Oswald's guilt can definitely be made when using an abundance of "circumstantial evidence".

FWIW, when it comes to evaluating the worthiness of each of the items on Vincent Bugliosi's list linked above, the only two things that Vince has on his list that I strongly disagree with are #23 and #41. I don't think those two things should have been included at all in Mr. Bugliosi's "Summary" chapter.

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Related Discussions:

Everything Lee Harvey Oswald Did Indicates His Guilt

Circumstantial Evidence In The JFK Case

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David Von Pein
December 4, 2024

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SANDY LARSEN SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Wrong! Jackie's collar is most certainly not black. It's navy blue. (See the Love Field photo below.)

Geez, Sandy Larsen can't even get the basic color of Jackie Kennedy's jacket collar right. So why on Earth would anyone think he's got actual "proof" regarding the ridiculous subject of the alleged "black patch"? This is hilarious make-believe stuff. Always has been.

SANDY LARSEN SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Sandy,

Do you think a "black patch" has been added to the autopsy photo below too, even though we can clearly see the individual hairs on JFK's head in this
picture? ....

PAT SPEER SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

And then, on top of those 2 pieces of fakery [Z-Film forgery + autopsy photo fakery], we'd have to also believe that all 3 autopsy doctors lied through their collective teeth in their autopsy report AND those same doctors also lied in their official testimony and in private interviews over the years. And then we'd have to also believe that the HSCA lied through their teeth too when they said this:

In short:

How much of this nonsense about "Faked This & Altered That" is a reasonable person supposed to swallow before finally rejecting such unproven dreck?

Just wondering what the limit might be regarding unsupportable and speculative fakery in the Kennedy case? Five things? Six maybe? Or sixty?

DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:

Sandy Larsen said this in one of his previous posts in this discussion:

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"Jackie's hair was darker than [JFK's], and always appears that way in photos."

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But such a determination depends on a lot of photographic factors, such as lighting, shadows, camera settings, angles, film type, etc.

There are photos of the President and Jackie Kennedy in which JFK's hair looks every bit as dark (or even darker) than Jackie's. It just depends a great deal on those photographic factors I mentioned.

So for someone to claim that Jacqueline Kennedy's hair "always appears" darker than JFK's hair in all photos and films is misleading and overstates the matter by a mile, because such a statement is just flat-out wrong.

See the six examples provided below (a mixture of both color and black-and-white photographs and film frames)....

PAUL BACON SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

That's incorrect. The darkness at the right-rear of President Kennedy's head is most certainly also there and easily visible in the Zapruder Film prior to the fatal bullet striking his head.

The two-frame gif image below is a clip I got at this forum from Robin Unger in May of 2015. It shows Zapruder frames 312 and 317 on a repeating loop, and the area of Kennedy's head containing the alleged "black patch" looks identical in both of these Z-frames:

And the frames that precede Z312 exhibit the exact same level of blackness on JFK's head as well --- e.g., Z311 .... Z310 .... Z309 .... More frames here.

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Related Link:

Was The Back Of JFK's Head Blacked Out?

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David Von Pein
December 5-6, 2024

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DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

In a continuation of this November 2024 post, I have located another 11/30/63 newspaper which includes still frames from the Zapruder Film. This Detroit paper also includes, as the headline suggests, some "Hospital Details" concerning JFK's last moments while in the Parkland emergency room. Click to enlarge:

David Von Pein
December 9, 2024

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DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Happy 10th Birthday,
"BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT" !!

"For readers who are looking for a no-nonsense introduction to a case that has been mangled and misrepresented by legions of cynics and paranoiacs for half-a-century, 'Beyond Reasonable Doubt' is an ideal starting point." — Barry Ryder; May 2015

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"David Von Pein has long been one of the voices of sanity regarding the JFK Assassination and it's great to see him put his efforts forward along with Mel Ayton. Well done." — Eric Paddon; September 2019

DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID THIS.

W. NIEDERHUT SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

But the things you keep insisting on labeling as "disinformation" aren't really disinfo at all.

People can have different opinions on what constitutes "disinformation", you know. In your opinion, the "Lone Nut narrative" is full of "disinformation". In my opinion, the LN narrative is full of facts (LIKE THESE).

David Von Pein
December 20-21, 2024

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PAT SPEER SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

He [W. Niederhut] certainly wouldn't be the first person to pretty much ignore the obvious initial forward movement of JFK's cranium in the Zapruder Film.

I believe the "in vogue" excuse (aka cop-out) for some people nowadays is the David Wimp/"Smear"/"Blur" crappola.

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Related Discussion From May 2018....

JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID:

The whole thing about the 1-2 frame forward movement was misrepresented by DVP and Ayton in their book.

[Josiah] Thompson was the first guy to write about it. But he was not the first guy to point it out. That was Ray Marcus, and Thompson would admit that as the case. In other words, it was the critics who first pointed out that almost undetectable forward bob.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

DiEugenio is, as usual, dead wrong here. This topic was not "misrepresented" by Mel Ayton or myself in our book at all. Jimmy just doesn't want to believe the ITEK Corporation's findings, that's all.

And to think that the forward motion of JFK's head at Z313 is only being caused by the "blur" in the film is another example of "Ultimate CTer Denial In Action" --- especially since we know (and can SEE) that the President is being hit in the head WITH A BULLET at that exact moment in time on the Zapruder Film.

And yet, even though we know a high-speed bullet is definitely crashing into his skull at that EXACT instant, I'm supposed to believe that the ONLY thing that is causing the apparent "forward movement" of Kennedy's head is the "blur"???

Jim and Josiah are too funny for words!

JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID:

Von Pein and Ayton misrepresented this issue in two ways.

First, they tried to insinuate that this bob forward was somehow ignored by the critical community. What a bunch of malarkey. Thompson's book was on the cover of the Saturday Evening Post. It had a large impact and sold well. Second, they ignored Thompson's later discoveries with physicist Art Snyder about the smear on the film. I don't know if Davey is deliberately ignoring this, or if he just does not understand it. I actually think it's both.

DVP SAID:

Jim,

Just keep looking at this super-slo-mo clip over and over a few times. And then try to convince yourself that the obvious forward motion of President Kennedy's head that you are seeing is being caused ONLY by a "smear" in the film. Good luck in convincing yourself of that fairy tale.

[End 2018 Excerpts.]

David Von Pein
December 21, 2024

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DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

The pro-conspiracy video linked HERE is, of course, filled to the brim with nothing but total nonsense, including massive amounts of speculation and disinformation concerning Mrs. Ruth Hyde Paine.

And how in the world #29 on the YouTuber's list (Ruth and Michael Paine's reconciliation) somehow points to Ruth's involvement in setting up Lee Oswald as a patsy in JFK's assassination, I'll never understand. ~big shrug~

And there are many other things on the CTer's 32-item list that are equally as useless as well, in that they too are totally unconnected to the Dallas assassination.

I sure wish that one day in the near future I would see this headline, in big bold letters, adorning the front page of CNN.com:

MRS. RUTH PAINE FILES $15-MILLION DEFAMATION LAWSUIT AGAINST BAND OF JFK CONSPIRACY THEORISTS!!

Oh, how sweet that would be!

David Von Pein
December 22, 2024

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GERRY DOWN SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:

I'll add a few more quotes to Gerry's JFK Assassination Quiz....

Who said these things?....

13. "I think this is the man that killed the President."

14. "This is a guilt that doesn't belong to a few. This is a guilt of the nation. We're all responsible for this."

15. "And blood started gushing out."

16. "To me it appeared there was some lunacy or something."

17. "Lee was a very ordinary person; ...people can kill a President without that being something that shows on them in advance."

18. "The President was whisked from the scene of the assassination by bus to Parkland Hospital." [LOL]

19. "The exit wound was a large, irregular wound to the front and right side of the President's head."

20. "There is certainly between 12 and 15 shots fired."

DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:

Answers to my last post above:

13. Jesse Curry.

14. Earle Cabell.

15. Gayle Newman.

16. Aubrey Rike.

17. Ruth Paine.

18. Eddie Barker.

19. Dr. James Humes.

20. Robert Groden.

DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:

The answer [to #18 listed above] --- Eddie Barker of KRLD-TV in Dallas (CBS affiliate). The "bus" clip is cued up HERE.

I can't imagine where on Earth Mr. Barker got the erroneous idea that President Kennedy, after being shot while sitting in his high-horsepower limousine, was then transferred to one of the slowest-moving modes of transportation imaginable (a bus) in order to get the President to the hospital. It's a very silly and humorous notion altogether.

But, Barker must have heard the "by bus" rumor from somebody. I've always wondered who it was? (Maybe Cecil McWatters wanted a bit more publicity that day.) 😀

TOM GRAM SAID THIS.

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Yes. In fact, Dan Rather of CBS was one of the people who made such a false "ambulance" report. And that "transferred to an ambulance" topic is one that the late David Lifton brought up in an e-mail he sent me in 2015. [E-mail archived on this webpage.]

I realize now, after watching this 2013 video series (which was made available at YouTube in October 2022), why Lifton was so interested in the Dan Rather "ambulance" subject. It's because Lifton's ever-expanding cloak-and-dagger theories included an ambulance as part of the plot. Lifton believed that the original plan was to have the plotters transfer JFK to an ambulance after the shooting (somewhere on Stemmons Freeway, I guess).

The reason for the ambulance transfer, per Lifton, was to get the dying JFK away from Jackie Kennedy, so that Jackie couldn't witness any part of the body-alteration plot that was supposed to be coming up in the operating room at Parkland Hospital.

But the original "ambulance" and "Parkland body altering" portions of the plot didn't work out as the conspirators planned. (See the linked video series above for more details regarding Mr. Lifton's incredible make-believe fantasies.)

David Von Pein
December 24-28, 2024

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DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

As the year 2024 draws to a close, I'm reminded of what was (for me anyway) by far the most memorable moment of the year --- the total solar eclipse on April 8, 2024, which plunged much of the United States into total darkness for about four minutes in the middle of the afternoon. It was an incredible and rare sight to behold.

Here's what the eclipse looked like from my front yard in central Indiana:

DVP-Potpourri.blogspot.com/The Total Solar Eclipse On April 8,2024

And on that day in Dallas, Texas, many people gathered to watch the eclipse in Dealey Plaza. I grabbed the images below by way of the Sixth Floor Museum's Dealey Plaza Earth Cam. Click to enlarge:

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As for Kennedy-related stuff in 2024....

David Von Pein
December 30, 2024

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