tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36193979352897390212024-03-18T23:51:54.696-07:00DVP's JFK ARCHIVESDavid Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comBlogger2263125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-17388578579036807132024-03-01T03:30:00.000-08:002024-03-01T11:56:44.197-08:00 INDEX / TABLE OF CONTENTS <br><center><base target="_blank"><table><td><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/06/kennedy-gallery-009.html"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WijTqCX-trc/Ue4tpNdLzXI/AAAAAAAAvWU/3saRjMWumi8/s243/088a.+Deplaning+Air+Force+One+At+Love+Field+11-22-63.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/06/kennedy-gallery-022.html"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6QxMFRkjl7s/Ue4sRrlUBmI/AAAAAAAAvV4/W91ai5AcP6s/s269/JFK-In-Limousine-At-Love-Field-11-22-63.png"></a></table><br />
<table><td><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/06/kennedy-gallery-040.html"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YdtLxNto9wc/Ue4sRJVJ87I/AAAAAAAAvVs/GWqaMh895_c/s245/108.+Zapruder+Frame+%23366.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2013/03/kennedy-gallery-307.html"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TN-DR6BFE_Q/Ue4sRafbdDI/AAAAAAAAvWA/_j5AFEO_6s0/s268/Chattanooga-Newspaper-Front-Page-11-22-63.jpg"></a></table><br />
<table><td><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/06/kennedy-gallery-099.html"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_1X_uTHLOJo/V2RG8OIT76I/AAAAAAABKDw/_EN2EgtxbgQeacC1lwkx7vHtk0-xG82QACLcB/s248/Ruby-Shooting-Oswald.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/06/kennedy-gallery-102.html"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nkfuP4TsV3g/V2RJ0m2ZIQI/AAAAAAABKEM/rn6wHflJMNsiy3aS7xvIBoiWtnhfvHKdgCLcB/s265/JFK-Casket.png"></a></table><br />
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<span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:verdana;font-size:320%;">THIS WEBSITE'S <br />
INDEX AND <br />
TABLE OF CONTENTS:</span><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Audio-Video"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V1vO83UVVTI/TdbmcH2pUrI/AAAAAAAAYos/Xo3vy_qQ7IQ/s250/Audio-Video.jpg"></a><br />
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<table><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Lee-Harvey-Oswald"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZxuGsw4NGK4/TbJ2kFhw8rI/AAAAAAAAVAo/QjraXPAV_6M/s250/1-Lee-Harvey-Oswald.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Jack-Ruby"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aUFnbTUn0vI/TbJ6Ik-1pxI/AAAAAAAAVBI/szjxO6rb4nM/s250/5-Jack-Ruby.jpg"></a></table><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#JD-Tippit"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Fkbo7SrjySE/TbJ6JKwW0lI/AAAAAAAAVBQ/qdvEQ1uiuTI/s250/6-J.D.-Tippit.jpg"></a><br />
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<table><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#The-Warren-Commission"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EFEErANI1rk/TbJ2kZMIH5I/AAAAAAAAVAw/gAom_YkryyU/s250/2-Warren-Commission.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Single-Bullet-Theory"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PZxLXtcQzxU/TbJ2koeVv5I/AAAAAAAAVA4/f1nR2s226gQ/s250/3-Single-Bullet-Theory.jpg"></a></table><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Guns-Backyard-Photos-And-Other-Evidence"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WBXIZ7jaazs/TbJ6IeFicrI/AAAAAAAAVBA/1wp87Y9RlbE/s250/4-Guns-Backyard-Photos-And-Other-Evidence.jpg"></a><br />
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<table><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#JFK-Head-Wounds"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VV5bEh-j0-M/TbKDVgFq9mI/AAAAAAAAVBg/FrlO70wG268/s250/8-JFK-Head-Wounds.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#CE399"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BArcGY58XqM/TbKGuiXfdkI/AAAAAAAAVCY/JKG91eAqBMM/s250/15-CE399.jpg"></a></table><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Zapruder-Film"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DLeRIJjspyk/TbKFMc5PTfI/AAAAAAAAVBw/g6ZpbuzmwpQ/s250/10-Zapruder-Film.jpg"></a><br />
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<table><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#The-FBI"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jzOFpklGlr4/TbKIyn8VpuI/AAAAAAAAVCg/LcyDwcurMj4/s250/16-FBI.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#The-Secret-Service"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-o1S9gde1g4o/W8go35cefVI/AAAAAAABQMA/yUcqwJWi8rQiLb0WXAUzlXmPDwmN09K-QCLcBGAs/s250/Secret-Service.jpg"></a></table><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Witnesses"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qe-Yi2Pl2Us/V7E1oG1YZvI/AAAAAAABKS8/bN15jn5XOvM_Pt57h7rPe1bJ9uta-id4QCLcB/s250/9-Witnesses.jpg"></a><br />
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<table><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Conspiracy-Theorists"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YAu91Ab_EZ0/TbKDVZ5DxkI/AAAAAAAAVBY/0U_u4ZduceU/s250/7-Conspiracy-Theorists.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Mark-Lane"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KDQ7T49Fa70/TbKFMjpAq1I/AAAAAAAAVCA/YOCpP1d0UK0/s250/12-Mark-Lane.jpg"></a></table><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Jim-Garrison"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nQqOTiE_Rls/TbKGuKIrEbI/AAAAAAAAVCI/mboU8LxxI5U/s250/13-Jim-Garrison.jpg"></a><br />
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<table><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Oliver-Stone"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AV1A6D8Trc8/TbKGuiC-8FI/AAAAAAAAVCQ/KLNW6xH6wC8/s250/14-Oliver-Stone.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Interviews-And-Debates"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NIPJODYVWSs/TbKFMtN45BI/AAAAAAAAVB4/Cd78k59KRdI/s250/11-Interviews-And-Debates.jpg"></a></table><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#DVP-Vs-DiEugenio"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4ChiGSKMhiU/TbKIy3-NRQI/AAAAAAAAVCo/EM-Cn_gDm9A/s250/17-DVP-Vs-DiEugenio.jpg"></a><br />
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<table><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/david-von-pein-vs-david-lifton.html"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ij57jSTZbbk/W8go3yqs9SI/AAAAAAABQME/YHvOCyKXTY8Wot7hxgwNtffsFF8GGMUYACLcBGAs/s250/DVP-Vs-David-Lifton.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#DVP-Vs-Various-Individual-Conspiracy-Theorists"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4hdyTlC43y4/W8go3zDxuzI/AAAAAAABQMI/Rh7JgO76LkEUUsnNxpKh_ZECv0qG-LnKQCLcBGAs/s250/DVP-Vs-More-Conspiracy-Theorists.jpg"></a></table><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Vincent-Bugliosi"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9AlqMCh4I9g/TbKIzGvDqYI/AAAAAAAAVCw/ee7XpqmgyfM/s250/18-Vincent-Bugliosi.jpg"></a><br />
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<table><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Assorted-Assassination-Arguments"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vl-JQGcSU-w/TbKKHzzwsMI/AAAAAAAAVDA/O3P3vPmWc3g/s250/20-Assorted-Assassination-Arguments.jpg"></a><td><td><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Misc.-Posts-And-Articles"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xqVNyNAGp2k/TbKKIMdFZZI/AAAAAAAAVDI/mIjF76fghAg/s250/21-Misc.-Posts-And-Articles.jpg"></a></table><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Reviews"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LuMcaPmpAmA/TbKKHkc5TMI/AAAAAAAAVC4/6tWl_vV-zZM/s250/19-Book-And-Movie-Reviews.jpg"></a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/my-favorite-videos.html"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y0e1XTSffxw/Wea0wFGGrwI/AAAAAAABNWU/lhHYy7M9N4oCqByR_5o93O1nq5bLjrr6QCLcBGAs/s530/DVP-Favorite-Videos-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<span style="font-size:180%;"><b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-cbs-tv.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(CBS-TV COVERAGE)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-nbc-tv.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(NBC-TV COVERAGE)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-abc-tv.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(ABC-TV COVERAGE)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-wfaa-tv.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(WFAA-TV COVERAGE)<br />
(DALLAS, TEXAS)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-nbc-radio.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(NBC-RADIO COVERAGE)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/jfk-assassination-abc-radio.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(ABC-RADIO COVERAGE)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-klif.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(KLIF-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(DALLAS, TEXAS)</a><br />
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<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-wbap.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(WBAP-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(FORT WORTH, TEXAS)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-krld.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(KRLD-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(DALLAS, TEXAS)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/kbox-radio.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(KBOX-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(DALLAS, TEXAS)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-wfaa.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(WFAA-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(DALLAS, TEXAS)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-wlw.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(WLW-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(CINCINNATI, OHIO)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-kilt.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(KILT-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(HOUSTON, TEXAS)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-wcco.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(WCCO-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-wtic.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(WTIC-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-kxol.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(KXOL-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(FORT WORTH, TEXAS)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-knx.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(KNX-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-whbc.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(WHBC-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(CANTON, OHIO)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-as-it-happened-kxa.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(KXA-RADIO COVERAGE)<br />
(SEATTLE, WASHINGTON)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-westinghouse.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(WESTINGHOUSE BROADCASTING <br />
RADIO COVERAGE)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-mutual.html">JFK ASSASSINATION: AS IT HAPPENED<br />
(MUTUAL BROADCASTING <br />
RADIO COVERAGE)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/lee-harvey-oswald-has-been-shot.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD<br />
HAS BEEN SHOT!</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-aftermath.html">JFK ASSASSINATION AFTERMATH<br />
(VIDEO & AUDIO FROM <br />
NOVEMBER 23-27, 1963)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-radio-bulletins.html">JFK ASSASSINATION <br />
RADIO BULLETINS</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/tv-news-films-from-november-22-1963.html">TELEVISION NEWS FILMS<br />
FROM NOVEMBER 22, 1963</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-chicago-radio-and-tv.html">CHICAGO RADIO & TV CLIPS<br />
FROM NOVEMBER 22-23, 1963</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-bbc-radio.html">BBC-RADIO NEWS & COMMENTARY<br />
(NOVEMBER 24, 1963)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-funeral-services.html">PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S<br />
FUNERAL SERVICES</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-eulogies-november-24-1963.html">JFK EULOGIES</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-films.html">JFK ASSASSINATION FILMS</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-3-shots-that-changed-america.html">"JFK: 3 SHOTS THAT <br />
CHANGED AMERICA"<br />
(2009 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/06/years-of-lightning-day-of-drums.html">"JOHN F. KENNEDY: <br />
YEARS OF LIGHTNING, DAY OF DRUMS"</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/four-days-in-november.html">DAVID L. WOLPER'S <br />
"FOUR DAYS IN NOVEMBER" <br />
(1964)</a><br />
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<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1266.html">"FOUR DAYS IN NOVEMBER"<br />
(VARIOUS LINKS)</a><br />
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<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/06/last-two-days.html">"THE LAST TWO DAYS"</a><br />
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<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/faces-of-november.html">"FACES OF NOVEMBER"</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/08/day-president-was-shot.html">"THE DAY THE PRESIDENT WAS SHOT"<br />
(ABC-RADIO SPECIAL PROGRAM)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/four-days-that-shocked-world.html">"FOUR DAYS THAT SHOCKED THE WORLD: NOVEMBER 22-25, 1963"</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-in-fort-worth-on-11-22-63.html">JFK IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS,<br />
ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-arrives-in-dallas-on-11-22-63.html">JFK ARRIVES IN DALLAS, TEXAS,<br />
ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963</a><br />
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<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/president-kennedys-final-hour.html">"PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S FINAL HOUR"<br />
(DALLAS CINEMA ASSOCIATES FILM)</a><br />
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<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/president-kennedy-in-texas.html">"PRESIDENT KENNEDY IN TEXAS"<br />
(1963 WBAP-TV SPECIAL)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/man-on-street-interviews-november-1963.html">INTERVIEWS WITH <br />
THE GENERAL PUBLIC <br />
FOLLOWING JFK'S ASSASSINATION<br />
(NOVEMBER 22-24, 1963)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-media-errors.html">MEDIA ERRORS IN REPORTING<br />
JFK'S ASSASSINATION</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/pre-assassination-newscasts-11-22-63.html">PRE-ASSASSINATION <br />
RADIO NEWSCASTS <br />
FROM NOVEMBER 22, 1963</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/year-ago-today-wfaa-tv-special-11-22-64.html">"A YEAR AGO TODAY"<br />
(1964 WFAA-TV SPECIAL)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/who-shot-president-kennedy-1988.html">"WHO SHOT PRESIDENT KENNEDY?"<br />
(1988 PBS-TV DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/who-was-lee-harvey-oswald.html">"WHO WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD?"<br />
(1993 PBS-TV DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/november-22nd-and-warren-report.html">"A CBS NEWS EXTRA:<br />
NOV. 22ND AND THE WARREN REPORT"<br />
(1964 CBS-TV SPECIAL)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/cbs-news-inquiry-warren-report.html">"A CBS NEWS INQUIRY: <br />
THE WARREN REPORT"<br />
(1967 CBS-TV SPECIAL)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/kennedy-assassination-beyond-conspiracy.html#Videos">"THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION: <br />
BEYOND CONSPIRACY" <br />
(2003 ABC-TV DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-final-hours-2013-documentary.html">"JFK: THE FINAL HOURS" <br />
(2013 NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC <br />
DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/09/warren-commission-1999-documentary.html">"THE WARREN COMMISSION"<br />
(1999 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/jfk-beyond-magic-bullet.html#Videos">"JFK: BEYOND THE MAGIC BULLET" <br />
(2004 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-breaking-news.html">"JFK: BREAKING THE NEWS"<br />
(2003 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/president-kennedy-has-been-shot.html">"PRESIDENT KENNEDY HAS BEEN SHOT" <br />
(2003 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/08/henry-wade-press-conferences.html">PRESS CONFERENCES WITH DALLAS <br />
DISTRICT ATTORNEY HENRY WADE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jesse-curry-interviews.html">INTERVIEWS WITH DALLAS <br />
POLICE CHIEF JESSE CURRY<br />
(NOVEMBER 22 & 23, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/nick-mcdonald-and-paul-bentley.html">INTERVIEWS WITH DALLAS POLICEMEN<br />
M.N. McDONALD AND PAUL BENTLEY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/gerald-hill-interview.html">INTERVIEWS WITH DALLAS POLICE <br />
SERGEANT GERALD HILL<br />
(NOVEMBER 22, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/paul-harvey.html">COMMENTARY BY PAUL HARVEY ON<br />
NOVEMBER 22 & NOVEMBER 26, 1963</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/11/cbs-evening-news-november-22-1963.html">THE CBS EVENING NEWS <br />
WITH WALTER CRONKITE <br />
(NOVEMBER 22, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/cbs-evening-news-november-25-1963.html">THE CBS EVENING NEWS <br />
WITH WALTER CRONKITE <br />
(NOVEMBER 25, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/presidents-and-assassins.html">"PRESIDENTS AND ASSASSINS" <br />
(CBS NEWS SPECIAL REPORT, <br />
AIRED ON NOVEMBER 25, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-four-dark-days-cbs-special.html">"THE FOUR DARK DAYS" <br />
(CBS NEWS SPECIAL, <br />
AIRED ON NOVEMBER 25, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/06/good-night-america-zapruder-film.html">THE ZAPRUDER FILM IS SHOWN ON <br />
TELEVISION FOR THE FIRST TIME <br />
(MARCH 6, 1975)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/lee-harvey-oswald-radio-appearances.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD<br />
ON THE RADIO</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/mary-moorman-interview.html">IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW <br />
WITH MARY MOORMAN<br />
(MAY 24, 2011)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/robert-mcclelland.html">2009 INTERVIEW WITH<br />
DR. ROBERT McCLELLAND</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/interviews-with-humes-and-boswell-1977.html">INTERVIEWS WITH DR. JAMES HUMES <br />
AND DR. J. THORNTON BOSWELL <br />
(SEPTEMBER 16, 1977)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-dr-pierre-finck.html">INTERVIEW WITH DR. PIERRE FINCK <br />
(MARCH 12, 1978)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/interview-with-evelyn-lincoln.html">INTERVIEW WITH EVELYN LINCOLN <br />
(JANUARY 21, 1964)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/hsca-testimony-miscellaneous-audio.html">MISC. HSCA TESTIMONY<br />
(AUDIO VERSIONS)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/videos-jfk-assassination-witnesses.html">VIDEO PLAYLIST:<br />
JFK ASSASSINATION WITNESSES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-665.html">WITNESSES<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/warren-commission-discussion-11-07-1966.html">RADIO PROGRAM WITH THREE WARREN <br />
COMMISSION COUNSEL MEMBERS <br />
(NOVEMBER 7, 1966)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/debunking-jfk-conspiracy-myths.html">TWO CONSPIRACY MYTHS DEBUNKED <br />
IN UNDER THREE MINUTES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/secret-service-reconstruction-film.html">1963 SECRET SERVICE RECONSTRUCTION FILM</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/1964-secret-service-film.html">1964 SECRET SERVICE FILM<br />
(NARRATED BY JIM UNDERWOOD)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/boston-symphony-november-22-1963.html">BOSTON SYMPHONY ANNOUNCEMENT<br />
ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/aircraft-radio-transmissions-11-22-63.html">AIRCRAFT RADIO TRANSMISSIONS<br />
FROM NOVEMBER 22, 1963<br />
(INCLUDING COMPLETE <br />
2-HOUR, 22-MINUTE VERSION)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/dallas-police-radio-tapes-11-22-63.html">DALLAS POLICE RADIO TAPES <br />
FROM NOVEMBER 22, 1963</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/john-f-kennedy-audio-recordings.html">JOHN F. KENNEDY<br />
TELEPHONE CALLS<br />
AND AUDIO RECORDINGS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/lyndon-johnson-phone-calls.html">LYNDON B. JOHNSON PHONE CALLS<br />
(1963-1964)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jim-garrison-vs-johnny-carson.html">JIM GARRISON VS. JOHNNY CARSON<br />
(JANUARY 31, 1968)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/12/mark-lane-interviews.html">INTERVIEWS AND DEBATES <br />
WITH MARK LANE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/rush-to-judgment.html">MARK LANE'S "RUSH TO JUDGMENT" <br />
(1967)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/trial-of-lee-harvey-oswald-1964.html">"THE TRIAL OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD" <br />
(1964)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/trial-of-lee-harvey-oswald-1977.html">"THE TRIAL OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD" <br />
(1977 TV MOVIE)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/ruby-and-oswald.html">"RUBY AND OSWALD"<br />
(1978 TV MOVIE)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/suddenly-1954-film.html">"SUDDENLY" <br />
(1954 FRANK SINATRA FILM)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jack-ruby-interview-1966.html">1966 INTERVIEW WITH JACK RUBY<br />
(SHORTLY BEFORE HIS DEATH)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/10/radio-debates-featuring-john-mcadams.html">RADIO DEBATES FEATURING <br />
JOHN McADAMS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/11/jfk-assassination-debate.html">MORE JFK ASSASSINATION DEBATES<br />
AND DISCUSSION</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/thank-you-mr-president.html">"THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT: <br />
THE PRESS CONFERENCES OF JFK"</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-first-and-last-press-conferences.html">PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S<br />
FIRST AND LAST<br />
PRESS CONFERENCES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/01/jfk-press-conferences.html">ALL 64 OF JFK'S PRESIDENTIAL <br />
PRESS CONFERENCES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-1960-election.html">THE 1960 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION <br />
(INCLUDING ALL FOUR <br />
KENNEDY-NIXON DEBATES)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/making-of-president-1960.html">"THE MAKING OF THE PRESIDENT 1960"<br />
(1963 DAVID L. WOLPER FILM)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/nbc-white-paper-age-of-kennedy.html">"NBC WHITE PAPER: <br />
THE AGE OF KENNEDY" <br />
(1966 NBC-TV DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/life-and-times-of-john-f-kennedy.html">"THE LIFE AND TIMES OF <br />
JOHN F. KENNEDY"<br />
(1964 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/kennedys-dont-cry.html">"KENNEDYS DON'T CRY"<br />
(1975 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/end-of-camelot.html">"THE END OF CAMELOT"<br />
(1993 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/kennedy-mystique-creating-camelot.html">"THE KENNEDY MYSTIQUE: <br />
CREATING CAMELOT"<br />
(2004 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/death-of-jfk-1994-documentary.html">"THE DEATH OF JFK AND <br />
THE WARREN REPORT"<br />
(1994 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-in-ireland.html">"JFK IN IRELAND"<br />
(1993 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-time-capsule.html">NBC NEWS TIME CAPSULE<br />
FEATURING JOHN F. KENNEDY<br />
(INCLUDES JFK'S OLDEST SURVIVING <br />
TELEVISION INTERVIEW, FROM 1951)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/candid-kennedy-films.html">CANDID KENNEDY FILMS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/meet-press.html">"MEET THE PRESS"<br />
(FEATURING JFK, RFK, & OTHERS)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/cuban-missile-crisis.html">THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-missiles-of-october.html">"THE MISSILES OF OCTOBER" <br />
(1974 TV MOVIE)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-talks-about-cuba-in-february-1963.html">JFK TALKS ABOUT CUBA<br />
(FEBRUARY 7, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/jfk-in-san-diego-june-6-1963.html">JFK IN SAN DIEGO<br />
(JUNE 6, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/bill-clinton-meets-jfk-july-24-1963.html">FUTURE PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON<br />
MEETS JOHN F. KENNEDY<br />
(JULY 24, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/06/white-house-tour-with-jackie-kennedy.html">A TOUR OF THE WHITE HOUSE <br />
WITH MRS. JOHN F. KENNEDY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/jfk-inaugural-address-january-20-1961.html">PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S<br />
INAUGURAL ADDRESS<br />
(JANUARY 20, 1961)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/all-three-jfk-state-of-union-addresses.html">ALL THREE OF JFK'S<br />
"STATE OF THE UNION"<br />
ADDRESSES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/08/jfk-speech-new-york-city-may-1962.html">JFK'S "HEALTH CARE" SPEECH FROM MADISON SQUARE GARDEN<br />
(MAY 20, 1962)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-speech-american-university-6-10-63.html">PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S <br />
"PEACE" SPEECH<br />
(JUNE 10, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-civil-rights-speech-june-11-1963.html">PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S <br />
"CIVIL RIGHTS" SPEECH<br />
(JUNE 11, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-speech-september-12-1962.html">JFK'S "SPACE" SPEECH<br />
(SEPTEMBER 12, 1962)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-speech-in-chicago-march-23-1963.html">PRESIDENT KENNEDY<br />
IN CHICAGO<br />
(MARCH 23, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-speech-april-27-1961.html">JFK'S SPEECH IN NEW YORK CITY<br />
SHORTLY AFTER THE BAY OF PIGS<br />
(APRIL 27, 1961)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-speech-august-13-1962.html">JFK'S SPEECH ON THE STATE OF <br />
THE NATION'S ECONOMY<br />
(AUGUST 13, 1962)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-interview-april-10-1961.html">WGN-TV INTERVIEW WITH JFK <br />
ON OPENING DAY OF THE 1961<br />
BASEBALL SEASON IN WASHINGTON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-speech-march-10-1962.html">JFK'S SPEECH IN<br />
MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA<br />
(MARCH 10, 1962)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-speech-may-12-1962.html">JFK'S SPEECH IN MILWAUKEE<br />
(MAY 12, 1962)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-interview-december-1962.html">"AFTER TWO YEARS"<br />
(1962 INTERVIEW WITH JFK)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/interviews-with-jfk-september-1963.html">1963 INTERVIEWS WITH<br />
PRESIDENT KENNEDY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-conservation-tour-september-1963.html">JFK'S CONSERVATION TOUR <br />
(SEPTEMBER 24-28, 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/question-and-answer-sessions-with-jfk.html">Q&A SESSIONS <br />
WITH JFK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-last-speeches-of-john-f-kennedy.html">JFK'S LAST SPEECHES<br />
(SEPTEMBER—NOVEMBER 1963)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jackie-kennedy-biography.html">A&E BIOGRAPHY:<br />
JACKIE KENNEDY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/lee-harvey-oswald-biography.html">A&E BIOGRAPHY:<br />
LEE HARVEY OSWALD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/robert-kennedy-march-1968.html">ROBERT F. KENNEDY SPEAKS OUT IN FAVOR OF THE WARREN COMMISSION<br />
(MARCH 25, 1968)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/rfk-and-jfk-present-medals-june-8-1962.html">RFK AND JFK PRESENT MEDALS TO <br />
THREE YOUNG AMERICANS<br />
(JUNE 8, 1962)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/telephone-calls-between-jfk-and-rfk.html">TELEPHONE CALLS BETWEEN <br />
JFK AND RFK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-senator-john-f-kennedy-story-1958.html">"THE U.S. SENATOR<br />
JOHN F. KENNEDY STORY"<br />
(1958)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-first-family-albums-vaughn-meader.html">"THE FIRST FAMILY"<br />
RECORD ALBUMS<br />
(FEATURING VAUGHN MEADER)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-death-of-john-f-kennedy-jr.html">THE DEATH OF <br />
JOHN F. KENNEDY, JR.</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/08/kennedy-photo-album.html">KENNEDY PHOTO ALBUM</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2020/04/jfk-marathon-videos.html">JFK MARATHON VIDEOS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/dealey-plaza-photos-june-2004.html">DEALEY PLAZA SLIDESHOW<br />
(JUNE 2004)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/dealey-plaza-october-2012.html">DEALEY PLAZA VIDEO AND PHOTOS<br />
(OCTOBER 30, 2012)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/newsreels-1961.html">NEWSREELS FROM 1961</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/newsreels-1962.html">NEWSREELS FROM 1962</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-history-of-sixth-floor-museum.html">THE HISTORY OF THE <br />
SIXTH FLOOR MUSEUM <br />
AT DEALEY PLAZA</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/parkland-2013-movie.html">"PARKLAND"<br />
(2013 MOVIE)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-jfk-assassination-and-woody-allen.html">THE JFK ASSASSINATION<br />
AND WOODY ALLEN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:178%;">ALSO VISIT THESE<br />
AUDIO/VIDEO WEBSITES:</span><br />
<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/DavidVonPeinJFK"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0iITqOYtBlI/Wsl04trBHwI/AAAAAAABOoU/TsQAOw15kqk5fwaAtKb7HEio15TTNPWMACLcBGAs/s530/YouTube-JFK-Channel-Logo-15.png"></a><br />
<br />
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<br />
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<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/beyond-reasonable-doubt.html">"BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT"<br />
BY MEL AYTON with DAVID VON PEIN<br />
(BOOK PAGE)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/lee-harvey-oswalds-guilt-point-by-point.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S SOLE GUILT: <br />
POINT-BY-POINT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/12/lee-harvey-oswalds-guilt-part-2.html">OSWALD'S SOLE GUILT <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/six-things-made-to-order-for-lho.html">SIX THINGS MADE TO ORDER FOR <br />
LEE HARVEY OSWALD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-892.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S MOTIVE <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswalds-motive.html">OSWALD'S MOTIVE <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/lee-harvey-oswalds-decision-to-shoot-jfk.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S DECISION <br />
TO SHOOT PRESIDENT KENNEDY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-timeline-part-1.html">NOVEMBER 22, 1963: <br />
A LEE HARVEY OSWALD "TIMELINE" <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-timeline-part-2.html">NOVEMBER 22, 1963: <br />
A LEE HARVEY OSWALD "TIMELINE" <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/reconstructing-steps-of-assassin.html">RECONSTRUCTING THE STEPS OF <br />
A PRESIDENTIAL ASSASSIN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/two-things-that-prove-oswalds-guilt.html">THESE TWO THINGS PROVE <br />
LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S GUILT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-was-in-snipers-nest.html">SOLID VALIDATION THAT <br />
LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS <br />
IN THE SNIPER'S NEST</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/constructing-oswalds-snipers-nest.html">CONSTRUCTING<br />
LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S <br />
SNIPER'S NEST</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-956.html">POSITIONING THE GUNMAN <br />
IN THE SNIPER'S NEST</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/in-lee-harvey-oswalds-room.html">IN LEE OSWALD'S ROOM ON <br />
NOVEMBER 22, 1963</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/everything-oswald-did-says-guilt.html">EVERYTHING LEE HARVEY OSWALD <br />
DID INDICATES HIS GUILT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-983.html">IF OSWALD WAS INNOCENT, <br />
WHY DID HE ACT SO GUILTY?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1313.html#Why-Did-Oswald-Deny-Killing-President-Kennedy">WHY DID OSWALD DENY<br />
KILLING PRESIDENT KENNEDY?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-499.html">DUPLICATING OSWALD'S FEAT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/who-was-lee-harvey-oswald.html">"WHO WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD?"<br />
(1993 PBS-TV DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/oswald-odio-and-mexico-city.html">SYLVIA ODIO <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/sylvia-odio-part-2.html">SYLVIA ODIO <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-793.html">OSWALD IN MEXICO CITY<br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-131.html">OSWALD IN MEXICO CITY<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-398.html">WAS OSWALD PAID $6,500 TO<br />
KILL PRESIDENT KENNEDY?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/hung-out-to-dry.html">IF OSWALD HAD ACCOMPLICES, <br />
WHERE WERE THEY WHEN HE <br />
NEEDED THEM THE MOST?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/edwin-walker-and-lee-harvey-oswald.html">GENERAL EDWIN WALKER<br />
AND LEE HARVEY OSWALD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-880.html">WALKER AND OSWALD <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1228.html">THE WALKER SHOOTING<br>
(PART 3)</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/02/lee-oswald-and-nixon-incident.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD AND<br>
THE NIXON INCIDENT</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/liar-oswald-part-1.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS A LIAR (PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/liar-oswald-part-2.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS A LIAR (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/lho-tsbd-work-application.html">MORE OSWALD LIES (VIA HIS BOOK DEPOSITORY WORK APPLICATION)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-585.html">OSWALD'S "A.J. HIDELL" ALIAS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-937.html">CAPTAIN FRITZ' NOTES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/tsbd-workers-and-elevators.html">LEE OSWALD, HIS CO-WORKERS, AND THE DEPOSITORY ELEVATORS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-973.html">THE SECOND-FLOOR <br />
LUNCHROOM ENCOUNTER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/oswald-baker-truly-and-coca-cola.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD, MARRION BAKER, ROY TRULY, AND THE COCA-COLA</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/dr-pepper-talk.html">DR. PEPPER TALK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/doorway-man.html">WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD<br />
"DOORWAY MAN"?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/doorway-man-part-2.html">"DOORWAY MAN"<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1052.html">"OUT WITH BILL SHELLEY IN FRONT"</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1308.html">MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT OSWALD'S<br />
WHEREABOUTS AT 12:30 PM <br />
ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/warren-commission-exhibit-826.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD IN <br />
NEW ORLEANS IN AUGUST 1963 <br />
(A LOOK AT COMMISSION EXHIBIT 826)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/prosecuting-oswald.html">PROSECUTING LEE HARVEY OSWALD (PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/prosecuting-oswald-part-2.html">PROSECUTING LEE HARVEY OSWALD (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-875.html">HOW WOULD <i>YOU</i> DEFEND <br />
LEE HARVEY OSWALD <br />
IN A COURT OF LAW?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/oswalds-patsy-lie.html">EXAMINING LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S <br />
"I'M JUST A PATSY" STATEMENT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/patsy-plot-silliness-part-1.html">THE "PATSY PLOT" SILLINESS <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/patsy-plot-silliness-part-2.html">THE "PATSY PLOT" SILLINESS <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/patsy-plot-silliness-part-3.html">THE "PATSY PLOT" SILLINESS <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-to-frame-patsy.html">HOW TO FRAME A LONE PATSY <br />
FOR JFK'S MURDER -- AND HOW <br />
NOT TO DO IT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/oswalds-changing-alibi.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S ALIBI</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/they-say-it-just-takes-second-to-die.html">"WELL, THEY SAY IT JUST <br />
TAKES A SECOND TO DIE"</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-932.html#Oswald-Hated-America">DID LEE HARVEY OSWALD HATE <br />
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/was-oswald-planted-in-tsbd.html">WAS LEE OSWALD "PLACED" IN THE BOOK DEPOSITORY BY PLOTTERS?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-445.html">THE "TWO OSWALDS" THEORY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-975.html">DID OSWALD REALLY LIVE AT<br />
1026 NORTH BECKLEY AVENUE?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1218.html">MORE OSWALD IMPOSTERS?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-756.html">THE POLICE LINEUPS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/oswald-midnight-press-conference.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S<br />
MIDNIGHT PRESS CONFERENCE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/lee-harvey-oswald-radio-appearances.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD<br />
ON THE RADIO</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2020/08/pre-11-22-63-oswald-newspaper-articles.html">PRE-11/22/63 NEWSPAPER ARTICLES<br />
ABOUT LEE HARVEY OSWALD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/oswald-mock-trial-june-21-2013.html">MOCK TRIAL OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD<br />
HELD IN DALLAS ON JUNE 21, 2013</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="The-Warren-Commission"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EFEErANI1rk/TbJ2kZMIH5I/AAAAAAAAVAw/gAom_YkryyU/s1600/2-Warren-Commission.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/warren-commission-got-it-right.html">THE WARREN COMMISSION <br />
GOT IT RIGHT (PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/warren-commission-got-it-right-part-2.html">THE WARREN COMMISSION <br />
GOT IT RIGHT (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/warren-commission-objectives.html">THE WARREN COMMISSION'S OBJECTIVES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/five-point-six-seconds-myth.html">THE SHOOTING TIMELINE AND THE <br />
"5.6 SECONDS" CONSPIRACY MYTH</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1131.html">DID THE WARREN COMMISSION LIE?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/index-of-warren-commission-exhibits.html">INDEX OF <br />
WARREN COMMISSION <br />
EXHIBITS</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Single-Bullet-Theory"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PZxLXtcQzxU/TbJ2koeVv5I/AAAAAAAAVA4/f1nR2s226gQ/s1600/3-Single-Bullet-Theory.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/single-bullet-theory-common-sense.html">A COMMON-SENSE APPROACH TO <br />
THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html">THE ULTIMATE IN "SBT" DENIAL<br />
AMONG CONSPIRACY THEORISTS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/single-bullet-theory-in-action.html">THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY IN ACTION (PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/connally-jacket-and-sbt.html">THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY IN ACTION (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-796.html">THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY IN ACTION (PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/sbt-clips.html">"SBT" ZAPRUDER FILM CLIPS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/where-is-sbt-alternative.html">WHERE'S THE LOGICAL CONSPIRACY-ORIENTED ALTERNATIVE TO THE SBT?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/single-bullet-theory.html">MORE SBT TALK (WITH A LARGE DOSE OF COMMON SENSE INCLUDED)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/gerald-ford-and-sbt.html">GERALD FORD AND THE SBT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a name="Commission-Exhibit-903"></a><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/sbt-perfection-of-ce903.html">THE "SBT PERFECTION" OF WARREN COMMISSION EXHIBIT 903</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/sbt-perfection-of-ce903-part-2.html">CE903 (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/ce903-part-3.html">CE903 (PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-843.html">CE903 (PART 4)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/single-bullet-theory-notebook.html">ARLEN SPECTER'S SBT NOTEBOOK<br />
(TONGUE-IN-CHEEK VERSION)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/sbt-banter.html">DVP VS. A CONSPIRACY THEORIST (THE TOPIC: THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-wounds-and-more-sbt-talk.html">PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S WOUNDS AND<br />
MORE SINGLE-BULLET DISCUSSION</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-940.html">THE MOVEMENT OF<br />
GOVERNOR CONNALLY'S LAPEL</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1257.html">JOHN CONNALLY SAID THE <br />
SINGLE-BULLET THEORY <br />
IS "POSSIBLE"</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-714.html">ANOTHER <br />
"SINGLE-BULLET THEORY" <br />
LINK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/single-bullet-theory-and-ce399.html">AND STILL MORE "SBT" TALK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/vince-bugliosi-dale-myers-and-sbt.html">VINCE BUGLIOSI, DALE MYERS, <br />
3-D DIAGRAMS, AND THE <br />
SINGLE-BULLET THEORY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/dale-myers-and-sbt.html">DALE MYERS' COMPUTER ANIMATION AND THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/dale-myers-and-sbt-part-2.html">DALE MYERS' COMPUTER ANIMATION AND THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1226.html">AND YET ANOTHER "SBT" DISCUSSION<br />
(JUST FOR GOOD MEASURE)</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Guns-Backyard-Photos-And-Other-Evidence"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WBXIZ7jaazs/TbJ6IeFicrI/AAAAAAAAVBA/1wp87Y9RlbE/s1600/4-Guns-Backyard-Photos-And-Other-Evidence.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/mannlicher-carcano.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S <br />
MANNLICHER-CARCANO</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/09/lee-harvey-oswalds-rifle.html">OSWALD'S RIFLE <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-591.html">OSWALD'S RIFLE <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-825.html">OSWALD'S RIFLE<br />
(PART 4)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-947.html">OSWALD'S RIFLE<br />
(PART 5)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-992.html">OSWALD'S RIFLE <br />
(PART 6)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1102.html">OSWALD'S RIFLE<br />
(PART 7)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1241.html">OSWALD'S RIFLE<br />
(PART 8)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/oswald-ordered-rifle.html">THE <br />
"OSWALD NEVER ORDERED THE RIFLE" <br />
MYTH</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-852.html">OSWALD AND <br />
KLEIN'S SPORTING GOODS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1058.html">THE "HIDELL" MONEY ORDER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-803.html">MAUSER OR CARCANO?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-42.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S REVOLVER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/was-oswalds-rifle-stolen.html">OSWALD'S RIFLE -- STOLEN BY PLOTTERS? OR USED BY <br />
OSWALD TO KILL JFK?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/backyard-photos.html">THE "BACKYARD PHOTOS" <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/backyard-photos-part-2.html">THE "BACKYARD PHOTOS" <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/two-important-points.html">TWO IMPORTANT POINTS <br />
ABOUT THE EVIDENCE <br />
AND LEE HARVEY OSWALD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1185.html">LIEUTENANT J.C. DAY AND THE<br />
PRINTS FOUND ON OSWALD'S RIFLE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-950.html">CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/curtain-rods.html">NOW, ABOUT THOSE "CURTAIN RODS" <br />
OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S...</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-709.html">CURTAIN RODS<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-725.html">OSWALD'S JACKET AND <br />
OSWALD'S HANDWRITING</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/post-office-applications.html">OSWALD'S POST OFFICE BOX APPLICATIONS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-postmark-on-commission-exhibit-773.html">THE POSTMARK ON <br />
OSWALD'S ENVELOPE <br />
(COMMISSION EXHIBIT 773)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/two-bullets.html">TAKING IT TO THE "2 BULLETS" BANK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/09/ce567-and-ce569.html">THE FRONT-SEAT BULLET FRAGMENTS<br />
(CE567 AND CE569)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/12/jfk-bullets-being-digitally-preserved.html">DIGITALLY PRESERVING THE <br />
JFK ASSASSINATION BULLETS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Windshield">WAS THERE A HOLE IN THE<br />
LIMOUSINE'S WINDSHIELD?</a><br />
<br />
<br /><a name="The-Paper-Bag"></a>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/frazier-randle-and-paper-bag.html">BUELL WESLEY FRAZIER, <br />
LINNIE MAE RANDLE, <br />
AND THE PAPER BAG</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/oswald-his-rifle-and-his-paper-bag.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD, HIS RIFLE, <br />
AND THE PAPER BAG</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-914.html">MORE "PAPER BAG" <br />
DISCUSSION</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1275.html">STILL MORE ABOUT FRAZIER, RANDLE,<br>
PAPER BAGS, CARPORT SLATS,<br>
AND CURTAIN RODS</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1349.html">SOME QUESTIONS FOR<br>
BUELL WESLEY FRAZIER</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-690.html">VINCENT DRAIN'S CONFLICTING <br />
REPORTS CONCERNING THE <br />
TSBD PAPER SAMPLES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-723.html">PARAFFIN TESTS <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-952.html">PARAFFIN TESTS <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-116.html">PARAFFIN TESTS <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1187.html#JFK-Shirt-Fibers">JFK'S SHIRT FIBERS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-888.html">BULLET SHELL EJECTION TESTS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/doctored-evidence-or-human-errors.html">DOCTORED EVIDENCE? <br />
OR ORDINARY HUMAN ERRORS?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/debunking-hsca-acoustics-evidence.html">DEBUNKING THE ACOUSTICS EVIDENCE <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/08/the-acoustics-evidence-part-2.html">DEBUNKING THE ACOUSTICS EVIDENCE <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/wallets-part-1.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S WALLETS <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/wallets-part-2.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S WALLETS <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/wallets-part-3.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S WALLETS <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/head-shot-bullet-fragments-and-naa.html">THE HEAD SHOT, THE BULLET FRAGMENTS, AND <br />
DR. VINCENT GUINN'S "NAA" ANALYSIS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/vincent-guinn-and-naa.html">MORE ABOUT DR. GUINN AND THE NAA BULLET-FRAGMENT TESTS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-583.html">IS THERE ANY <i>PHYSICAL</i> EVIDENCE <br />
OF A CONSPIRACY?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/did-police-fake-evidence.html">DID THE POLICE FAKE THE EVIDENCE <br />
IN THE SNIPER'S NEST?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/was-all-of-this-evidence-planted.html">WAS <i>ALL</i> OF THIS EVIDENCE PLANTED <br />
TO FRAME LEE HARVEY OSWALD?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/09/questions-and-answers.html">QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/discussing-evidence.html">DISCUSSING THE EVIDENCE (AGAIN)</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Jack-Ruby"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aUFnbTUn0vI/TbJ6Ik-1pxI/AAAAAAAAVBI/szjxO6rb4nM/s1600/5-Jack-Ruby.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/jack-ruby.html">JACK RUBY:<br />
THE SECOND "LONE NUT" <br />
ASSASSIN IN DALLAS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-did-jack-ruby-enter-basement.html">HOW DID JACK RUBY GET INTO THE DALLAS POLICE BASEMENT?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/how-did-ruby-enter-basement-part-2.html">JACK RUBY AND THE BASEMENT<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-673.html">WHY DID JACK RUBY SHOOT <br />
LEE HARVEY OSWALD?</a><br />
<br>
<br>
<a href="https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Jack+Ruby+And+Karen+Carlin">JACK RUBY AND KAREN CARLIN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-969.html">THE UBIQUITOUS JACK RUBY<br>
AND RUBY'S POLYGRAPH TEST</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/wade-interviews-arranged-by-jack-ruby.html">INTERVIEWS WITH HENRY WADE THAT<br />
WERE ARRANGED BY JACK RUBY</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="JD-Tippit"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Fkbo7SrjySE/TbJ6JKwW0lI/AAAAAAAAVBQ/qdvEQ1uiuTI/s1600/6-J.D.-Tippit.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/murder-of-jd-tippit-part-1.html">THE MURDER OF OFFICER J.D. TIPPIT <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/murder-of-jd-tippit-part-2.html">THE MURDER OF OFFICER J.D. TIPPIT <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/tippit-timelines.html">THE MURDER OF OFFICER J.D. TIPPIT <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1242.html">THE MURDER OF OFFICER J.D. TIPPIT <br />
(PART 4)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/11/acquilla-clemons-and-murder-of-jd-tippit.html">ACQUILLA CLEMONS AND THE<br />
MURDER OF OFFICER TIPPIT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1317.html">JOHNNY BREWER AND THE <br />
TIPPIT SHOOTING</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/hilarious-defense-of-oswald.html">THE TIPPIT MURDER AND THE HILARIOUS DEFENSE OF <br />
LEE HARVEY OSWALD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-42.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S REVOLVER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/12/dale-myers-and-don-thomas.html">DALE MYERS, DON THOMAS, AND THE MURDER OF OFFICER J.D. TIPPIT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/photos-of-tippit-murder-scene.html">PHOTO GALLERY OF THE J.D. TIPPIT<br />
MURDER SITE & SURROUNDING AREA</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Conspiracy-Theorists"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YAu91Ab_EZ0/TbKDVZ5DxkI/AAAAAAAAVBY/0U_u4ZduceU/s1600/7-Conspiracy-Theorists.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/02/mindset-of-conspiracy-theorists.html">THE MINDSET OF <br />
CONSPIRACY THEORISTS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/questions-conspiracists-never-answer.html">QUESTIONS NEVER ANSWERED <br />
BY CONSPIRACY THEORISTS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/isolating-evidence.html">ISOLATING THE EVIDENCE: <br />
A CONSPIRACIST'S FORTE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/how-far-will-kooks-go.html">HOW FAR WILL CONSPIRACY KOOKS GO IN TRYING TO EXONERATE OSWALD?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/no-room-for-occam.html">THERE'S NO ROOM FOR OCCAM IN A CONSPIRACY THEORIST'S WORLD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-conspiracy-theories-galore.html">JFK CONSPIRACY THEORIES GALORE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/dust-never-settles.html">FOR JFK CONSPIRACY THEORISTS, THE DUST NEVER SETTLES IN DEALEY PLAZA</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/insane-assassination-plot.html">WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE <br />
THIS CRAZY THEORY?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=David+Lifton">DAVID LIFTON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/harold-weisberg.html">HAROLD WEISBERG</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/josiah-thompson.html">JOSIAH THOMPSON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Mark-Lane">MARK LANE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Jim-Garrison">JIM GARRISON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Oliver-Stone">OLIVER STONE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-complete-series.html">JAMES DiEUGENIO</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/12/robert-groden.html">ROBERT GRODEN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/09/sylvia-meagher.html">SYLVIA MEAGHER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/11/jesse-ventura.html">JESSE VENTURA</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/orlando-martin.html">ORLANDO MARTIN <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/orlando-martin-part-2.html">ORLANDO MARTIN <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<a name="Doug-Horne"></a><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/doug-horne-part-1.html">DOUGLAS P. HORNE'S SILLINESS <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/doug-horne-part-2.html">DOUG HORNE<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/doug-horne-part-3.html">DOUG HORNE <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-839.html">DOUG HORNE <br />
(PART 4)</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="JFK-Head-Wounds"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VV5bEh-j0-M/TbKDVgFq9mI/AAAAAAAAVBg/FrlO70wG268/s1600/8-JFK-Head-Wounds.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/head-shot.html">THE FORWARD MOTION OF<br>
PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S HEAD<br>
AT ZAPRUDER FRAME 313</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/head-wounds.html">THE ILLOGIC OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S HEAD WOUNDS (IF YOU'RE A CONSPIRACY THEORIST LIKE <br />
DR. ROBERT McCLELLAND, THAT IS)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jfk-x-ray.html">A VERY IMPORTANT AUTOPSY X-RAY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-895.html">WAS THE BACK OF JFK'S HEAD <br />
"BLACKED OUT"?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/boh.html">THE BACK-OF-THE-HEAD WOUND ("BOH") WITNESSES VS. THE AUTOPSY DOCTORS -- WHO'S RIGHT?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/boh-part-2.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/boh-part-3.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/boh-part-4.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 4)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/boh-part-5.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 5)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/boh-part-6.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 6)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/boh-part-7.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 7)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/boh-part-8.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 8)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/boh-part-9.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 9)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/boh-part-10.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 10)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/boh-part-11.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 11)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/boh-part-12.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 12)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/boh-part-13.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 13)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/boh-part-14.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 14)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/boh-part-15.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 15)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/boh-part-16.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 16)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/boh-part-17.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 17)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/boh-part-18.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 18)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/boh-part-19.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 19)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/boh-part-20.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 20)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/boh-part-21.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 21)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-657.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 22)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-666.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 23)</a><br />
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1045.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 24)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1072.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 25)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1188.html">"BOH" TALK (PART 26)</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Witnesses"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qe-Yi2Pl2Us/V7E1oG1YZvI/AAAAAAABKS8/bN15jn5XOvM_Pt57h7rPe1bJ9uta-id4QCLcB/s1600/9-Witnesses.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-affidavits.html">WITNESS AFFIDAVITS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/marina-oswald.html">MARINA OSWALD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/08/narrative-prepared-by-marina-oswald.html">MARINA OSWALD'S <br />
PERSONAL NARRATIVE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/my-conversation-with-mary-moorman.html">DVP's CONVERSATION WITH <br />
ASSASSINATION EYEWITNESS<br />
MARY MOORMAN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/ruth-paine.html">RUTH PAINE (PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
RUTH PAINE (PART 2):<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-87.html"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizgj3GI0J2b82_1a1eXWI0q3NPbwgMTINEZ4Dm1_o83fDiU5pN7qblhJlFDR-Lh7W-6UuPCIDyrKkQDstTtFP2xn-0KyfBhFNN4vAQPG_DfEUoLrzwEN0wg7eRZ1YbnERj5bLV00C8_PbLoXOGk3qSC_Hk7zxQqW6GT45wl1wAXt11V1TjZ5bCY2_F/s500/Defending-Ruth-Paine-Logo.jpg"></a><br>
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/james-tague-part-1.html">JAMES TAGUE (PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/james-tague-part-2.html">JAMES TAGUE (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/james-tague-part-3.html">JAMES TAGUE (PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/howard-brennan.html">HOWARD BRENNAN (PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/howard-brennan-part-2.html">HOWARD BRENNAN (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/harold-norman-part-1.html">HAROLD NORMAN (PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/harold-norman-part-2.html">HAROLD NORMAN (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/11/bill-and-gayle-newman.html">BILL AND GAYLE NEWMAN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/bill-newman.html">BILL NEWMAN (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/john-and-nellie-connally.html">JOHN & NELLIE CONNALLY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/06/buell-wesley-frazier-videos.html">BUELL WESLEY FRAZIER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Linnie+Mae+Randle">LINNIE MAE RANDLE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/james-leavelle.html">JAMES LEAVELLE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/05/robert-macneil.html">ROBERT MacNEIL</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/ike-pappas.html">IKE PAPPAS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/bob-jackson.html">BOB JACKSON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/mal-couch.html">MAL COUCH</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/mary-woodward.html">MARY WOODWARD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/bob-huffaker.html">BOB HUFFAKER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/gary-delaune.html">GARY DeLAUNE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/12/charles-brehm.html">CHARLES BREHM</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/sm-holland.html">S.M. HOLLAND</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/james-altgens.html">JAMES ALTGENS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/lee-bowers.html">LEE BOWERS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jean-hill.html">JEAN HILL</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/03/karen-westbrook.html">KAREN WESTBROOK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1059.html">DOMINGO BENAVIDES AND <br />
EDWARD H. BENAVIDEZ</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/05/jack-tatum.html">JACK TATUM</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-960.html">CAROLYN WALTHER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/cecil-mcwatters.html">CECIL McWATTERS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/julia-ann-mercer.html">JULIA ANN MERCER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1194.html">ROGER CRAIG</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/tony-zoppi.html">TONY ZOPPI</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/james-humes.html">DR. JAMES HUMES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/richard-lipsey.html">RICHARD LIPSEY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/merriman-smith.html">MERRIMAN SMITH</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/clay-shaw-and-dean-andrews.html">CLAY SHAW & DEAN ANDREWS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/richard-helms.html">RICHARD HELMS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/marguerite-oswald.html">EXAMINING THE TESTIMONY OF MARGUERITE OSWALD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/buell-wesley-frazier.html">EXAMINING THE TESTIMONY OF <br />
BUELL WESLEY FRAZIER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/william-whaley.html">EXAMINING THE TESTIMONY OF <br />
WILLIAM WHALEY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/barbara-davis.html">EXAMINING THE TESTIMONY OF <br />
BARBARA DAVIS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/jack-dougherty.html">EXAMINING THE TESTIMONY OF <br />
JACK DOUGHERTY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/robert-frazier.html">EXAMINING THE TESTIMONY OF <br />
ROBERT FRAZIER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/charles-petty.html">EXAMINING THE TESTIMONY OF <br />
DR. CHARLES PETTY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jackie-kennedy-testimony.html">JACQUELINE KENNEDY'S TESTIMONY -- A MISSED OPPORTUNITY?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/paul-oconnor.html">THE STRANGE TALES OF <br />
PAUL O'CONNOR</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-743.html">VICTORIA ADAMS & SANDRA STYLES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1000.html">HOWARD BRENNAN, MARRION BAKER, <br />
AND ROY TRULY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1165.html">MARRION BAKER, ROY TRULY, <br />
AND JACK DOUGHERTY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Charles+Givens">CHARLES GIVENS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1344.html">CAROLYN ARNOLD</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-117.html">MRS. ROBERT A. REID</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/george-demohrenschildt-suicide.html">GEORGE DeMOHRENSCHILDT'S<br />
SUICIDE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-816.html">HENRY WADE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-927.html">BUDDY WALTHERS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/h-louis-nichols.html">H. LOUIS NICHOLS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/jerry-belknap.html">JERRY BELKNAP</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1106.html">JULIA POSTAL</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/david-ferrie.html">DAVID FERRIE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/james-files.html">JAMES FILES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/judyth-vary-baker.html">JUDYTH VARY BAKER (PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/judyth-vary-baker-part-2.html">JUDYTH VARY BAKER (PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/black-dog-man.html">"BLACK DOG MAN"</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/dealey-plaza-earwitnesses.html">THE DEALEY PLAZA EARWITNESSES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-806.html">THREE SHOTS AND THREE SHELLS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/10/parkland-press-conference-11-22-63.html">THE 11/22/63 PARKLAND HOSPITAL PRESS CONFERENCE WITH DR. MALCOLM PERRY AND DR. KEMP CLARK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/parkland-doctors-on-pbs-tv-in-1988.html">THE PARKLAND DOCTORS AND THEIR 1988 "NOVA" PBS-TV APPEARANCE</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Zapruder-Film"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DLeRIJjspyk/TbKFMc5PTfI/AAAAAAAAVBw/g6ZpbuzmwpQ/s1600/10-Zapruder-Film.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-zapruder-film.html">ABRAHAM ZAPRUDER'S FAMOUS FILM<br />
(VERSION CREATED BY DVP BY USING <br />
EACH OF THE FILM'S 486 FRAMES)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/zapruder-film-and-head-shot.html">THE ZAPRUDER FILM AND <br />
THE FATAL HEAD SHOT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/sbt-clips.html">ZAPRUDER FILM CLIPS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1117.html#The-Missing-Frames-Of-The-Zapruder-Film">THE MISSING FRAMES OF <br />
THE ZAPRUDER FILM</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/abraham-zapruder.html">WFAA-TV INTERVIEW WITH ABRAHAM ZAPRUDER ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963<br />
(AND MORE)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/06/good-night-america-zapruder-film.html">THE ZAPRUDER FILM IS SHOWN ON <br />
TELEVISION FOR THE FIRST TIME <br />
(MARCH 6, 1975)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1061.html">WAS THE ZAPRUDER FILM ALTERED?<br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/02/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-120.html">WAS THE ZAPRUDER FILM ALTERED?<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Interviews-And-Debates"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NIPJODYVWSs/TbKFMtN45BI/AAAAAAAAVB4/Cd78k59KRdI/s1600/11-Interviews-And-Debates.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/interviews-with-humes-and-boswell-1977.html">JAMES HUMES AND <br />
J. THORNTON BOSWELL</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-dr-pierre-finck.html">PIERRE FINCK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/robert-mcclelland.html">ROBERT McCLELLAND</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-james-sibert.html">JAMES W. SIBERT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/interview-with-francis-oneill.html">FRANCIS X. O'NEILL</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/12/kennedy-detail.html">CLINT HILL AND GERALD BLAINE</a><br />
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-acoustics-charles-rader-interview.html">THE ACOUSTICS/DICTABELT EVIDENCE: <br />
AN INTERVIEW WITH CHARLES RADER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/mark-lane-debate-1964.html">JFK ASSASSINATION DEBATE:<br />
MARK LANE VS. JOSEPH BALL<br />
(DECEMBER 4, 1964)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/wesley-liebeler-vs-mark-lane-1967-debate.html">JFK ASSASSINATION DEBATE: <br />
MARK LANE VS. WESLEY LIEBELER <br />
(JANUARY 25, 1967)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/michael-baden-vs-cyril-wecht.html">MICHAEL BADEN VS. CYRIL WECHT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/10/radio-debates-featuring-john-mcadams.html">RADIO DEBATES FEATURING <br />
JOHN McADAMS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/john-mcadams.html">INTERVIEWS WITH JOHN McADAMS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/gerald-posner.html">GERALD POSNER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/mel-ayton.html">MEL AYTON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/mel-ayton-and-dvp.html">Q&A WITH MEL AYTON & <br />
DAVID VON PEIN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/hugh-aynesworth.html">HUGH AYNESWORTH</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/history-will-prove-us-right.html">HOWARD WILLENS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/mark-fuhrman.html">MARK FUHRMAN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/david-reitzes.html">DAVID REITZES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/11/steve-barber.html">STEVE BARBER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-163.html">ROBERT STONE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/12/james-dieugenio-radio-interviews.html">JAMES DiEUGENIO</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/david-mantik-on-john-mcadams.html">DAVID MANTIK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/bill-paxton-interview.html">BILL PAXTON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/11/jfk-assassination-debate.html">MORE JFK ASSASSINATION <br />
DEBATES AND DISCUSSION</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/dvp-interview-about-television-and-jfk.html">DVP INTERVIEW #1</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/11/dvp-interview-number-two.html">DVP INTERVIEW #2</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/debating-jfk-case-60-part-series.html">DEBATING THE JFK CASE <br />
(A 60-PART SERIES)</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Mark-Lane"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KDQ7T49Fa70/TbKFMjpAq1I/AAAAAAAAVCA/YOCpP1d0UK0/s1600/12-Mark-Lane.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/vincent-bugliosi-vs-mark-lane.html">MARK LANE VS. VINCENT BUGLIOSI</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/mark-lane-and-helen-markham.html">MARK LANE AND HELEN MARKHAM</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-810.html">MARK LANE AND HELEN MARKHAM <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/12/mark-lane-interviews.html">INTERVIEWS AND DEBATES<br />
WITH MARK LANE</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Jim-Garrison"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nQqOTiE_Rls/TbKGuKIrEbI/AAAAAAAAVCI/mboU8LxxI5U/s1600/13-Jim-Garrison.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/jim-garrison-part-1.html">JIM GARRISON WAS WRONG <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/jim-garrison-part-2.html">JIM GARRISON WAS WRONG <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jim-garrison-vs-johnny-carson.html">JIM GARRISON VS. JOHNNY CARSON<br />
(JANUARY 31, 1968)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jim-garrison-on-steve-allen-show-1971.html">JIM GARRISON ON<br />
"THE STEVE ALLEN SHOW"<br />
IN 1971</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jim-garrison.html">JIM GARRISON AND HIS <br />
1967 NBC-TV "REBUTTAL"</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-980.html">IF CLAY SHAW WAS GUILTY, WHY DIDN'T JIM GARRISON DO THIS?</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Oliver-Stone"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AV1A6D8Trc8/TbKGuiC-8FI/AAAAAAAAVCQ/KLNW6xH6wC8/s1600/14-Oliver-Stone.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oliver-stone-blunder.html">OSWALD'S SHOOTING PERFORMANCE AND OLIVER STONE'S BLUNDER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/brainwashing-of-america.html">THE BRAINWASHING OF AMERICA <br />
(A LA OLIVER STONE)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/oliver-stone-and-jd-tippit.html">OLIVER STONE AND <br />
J.D. TIPPIT'S MURDER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/more-oliver-stone-discussion.html">MORE OLIVER STONE DISCUSSION</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jim-garrison-and-oliver-stone.html">AND STILL MORE TALK ABOUT OLIVER STONE (AND JIM GARRISON TOO)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/oliver-stone-videos.html">OLIVER STONE SPEAKS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/david-belin.html">DAVID BELIN TALKS ABOUT <br />
OLIVER STONE'S MOVIE</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="CE399"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BArcGY58XqM/TbKGuiXfdkI/AAAAAAAAVCY/JKG91eAqBMM/s1600/15-CE399.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/ce399-part-1.html">WAS CE399 A "PLANTED" BULLET? <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/ce399-part-2.html">WAS CE399 A "PLANTED" BULLET? <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/ce399-part-3.html">WAS CE399 A "PLANTED" BULLET? <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-secret-service-and-ce399.html">THE SECRET SERVICE<br />
AND CE399</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-711.html">THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY<br>
FOR BULLET CE399</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/06/the-initials-of-elmer-todd-are-on-ce399.html">ELMER TODD'S INITIALS <i>ARE</i> ON<br>
COMMISSION EXHIBIT 399<br>
(SEE THOSE INITIALS HERE)</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/06/paul-landis.html">INTERVIEWS WITH PAUL LANDIS,<br>
PLUS DISCUSSION ABOUT LANDIS'<br>
ALLEGED BULLET DISCOVERY</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/vince-bugliosi-on-ce399.html">A LETTER FROM VINCENT BUGLIOSI (CONCERNING THE ADMISSIBILITY <br />
OF CE399 IN A COURT OF LAW)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/connally-bullet-fragments.html">TOO MANY CE399 BULLET FRAGMENTS IN JOHN CONNALLY? HARDLY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1140.html">THE FACKLER BULLET</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a name="Darrell-Tomlinson-And-CE399"></a><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-74.html">DARRELL TOMLINSON AND CE399<br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-76.html">DARRELL TOMLINSON AND CE399<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-829.html">DARRELL TOMLINSON AND CE399<br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1207.html">DARRELL TOMLINSON AND CE399<br />
(PART 4)</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="The-FBI"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jzOFpklGlr4/TbKIyn8VpuI/AAAAAAAAVCg/LcyDwcurMj4/s1600/16-FBI.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/12-9-63-fbi-report.html">THE DECEMBER 9, 1963, FBI REPORT <br />
ON THE ASSASSINATION</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/fbi-errors.html">THE FBI'S EARLY MISTAKES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/hoover-and-oswald.html">J. EDGAR HOOVER, THE FBI, <br />
AND LEE HARVEY OSWALD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/james-hosty.html">THE HOSTY NOTE</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="The-Secret-Service"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-o1S9gde1g4o/W8go35cefVI/AAAAAAABQMA/yUcqwJWi8rQiLb0WXAUzlXmPDwmN09K-QCLcBGAs/s1600/Secret-Service.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/11/secret-service.html">HENRY RYBKA, DON LAWTON, AND SECRET SERVICE CONFUSION <br />
AT LOVE FIELD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-secret-service-and-ce399.html">THE SECRET SERVICE<br />
AND CE399</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/fake-secret-service-agents.html">FAKE SECRET SERVICE AGENTS <br />
IN DEALEY PLAZA?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-780.html">DID SECRET SERVICE AGENT <br />
GEORGE HICKEY ACCIDENTALLY <br />
KILL PRESIDENT KENNEDY?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1032.html">THE FALSE RUMOR ABOUT A<br />
SECRET SERVICE AGENT BEING <br />
KILLED ON 11/22/63</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/secret-service-reconstruction-film.html">1963 SECRET SERVICE FILM</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/1964-secret-service-film.html">1964 SECRET SERVICE FILM</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="DVP-Vs-DiEugenio"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4ChiGSKMhiU/TbKIy3-NRQI/AAAAAAAAVCo/EM-Cn_gDm9A/s1600/17-DVP-Vs-DiEugenio.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-1.html">DAVID VON PEIN VS. JAMES DiEUGENIO <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-2.html">DAVID VON PEIN VS. JAMES DiEUGENIO <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-3.html">DAVID VON PEIN VS. JAMES DiEUGENIO <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-78.html">QUESTIONS FOR JAMES DiEUGENIO</a><br />
<br />
<br />
THE COMPLETE SERIES (137 PARTS):<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-complete-series.html"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JMGxM0mOd6g/VbmMvjCw-JI/AAAAAAABG08/K4gUhKFqj2c/s500/David-Von-Pein-Vs-James-DiEugenio-The-Complete-Series-Logo.png"></a><br>
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="DVP-Vs-Various-Individual-Conspiracy-Theorists"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kqNrMXlgBVI/XVh7oqsbGpI/AAAAAAABSas/-pzDTzzuuzMYwnjxwRLysntxZAEE8RPvwCLcBGAs/s1600/DVP-Vs-Various-Individual-Conspiracy-Theorists.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/david-von-pein-vs-david-lifton.html">DAVID VON PEIN VS. DAVID LIFTON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-complete-series.html">DVP VS. JAMES DiEUGENIO</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Vincent+Palamara">DVP VS. VINCENT PALAMARA</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/doug-horne-part-1.html">DVP VS. DOUG HORNE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Robert+Harris">DVP VS. ROBERT HARRIS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Anthony+Marsh">DVP VS. ANTHONY MARSH</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Pat+Speer">DVP VS. PAT SPEER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Greg+Parker">DVP VS. GREG PARKER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=William+Kelly">DVP VS. WILLIAM KELLY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Lee+Farley">DVP VS. LEE FARLEY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Pamela+Brown">DVP VS. PAMELA BROWN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-178.html">DVP VS. DON JEFFRIES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Ray+Mitcham">DVP VS. RAY MITCHAM</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/judyth-vary-baker-part-2.html">DVP VS. JUDYTH VARY BAKER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Cliff+Varnell">DVP VS. CLIFF VARNELL</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Martin+Hay">DVP VS. MARTIN HAY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1019.html">DVP VS. JAMES FETZER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-77.html">DVP VS. GARY AGUILAR</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Willy+Whitten">DVP VS. WILLY WHITTEN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Ben+Holmes">DVP VS. BEN HOLMES</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=David+Josephs">DVP VS. DAVID JOSEPHS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Gil+Jesus">DVP VS. GIL JESUS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Herbert+Blenner">DVP VS. HERBERT BLENNER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html">DVP VS. JAMES R. GORDON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Sandy+Larsen">DVP VS. SANDY LARSEN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Donald+Willis">DVP VS. DONALD WILLIS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Rich+DellaRosa">DVP VS. RICH DELLAROSA</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1283.html">DVP VS. JOSEPH McBRIDE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Walt+Cakebread">DVP VS. WALT CAKEBREAD</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Robert+Prudhomme">DVP VS. ROBERT PRUDHOMME</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Tony+Fratini">DVP VS. TONY FRATINI</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Robert+Caprio">DVP VS. ROBERT CAPRIO</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2020/02/dvp-vs-various-conspiracy-theorists.html"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qHqy0ReI5bg/VFuFMwNrPTI/AAAAAAABA7k/se8nGaPU9WQ/s360/More-Here-Logo.png"></a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Vincent-Bugliosi"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9AlqMCh4I9g/TbKIzGvDqYI/AAAAAAAAVCw/ee7XpqmgyfM/s1600/18-Vincent-Bugliosi.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/on-trial-lee-harvey-oswald.html">"ON TRIAL: LEE HARVEY OSWALD" (1986 TELEVISION DOCU-TRIAL, FEATURING VINCENT BUGLIOSI<br />
AS PROSECUTING ATTORNEY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/03/on-trial-lee-harvey-oswald-text-excerpts.html">"ON TRIAL: LEE HARVEY OSWALD" <br />
(TEXT EXCERPTS)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/vincent-bugliosi-2007-koce-tv-interview.html">JULY 2007 TELEVISION INTERVIEW WITH VINCENT BUGLIOSI</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/vincent-bugliosi-cspan-interview.html">VINCENT BUGLIOSI INTERVIEW <br />
ON C-SPAN (NEARLY 3 HOURS)<br />
(NOVEMBER 4, 2007)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/vincent-bugliosi-interview-10-15-2013.html">RADIO INTERVIEW WITH <br />
VINCENT BUGLIOSI<br />
(OCTOBER 15, 2013)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/vincent-bugliosi-interviews.html">MANY MORE INTERVIEWS<br />
WITH VINCE BUGLIOSI<br />
(60+ VIDEOS)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/favorite-quotes-from-reclaiming-history.html">DVP's FAVORITE QUOTES <br />
FROM "RECLAIMING HISTORY"</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-719.html">A DISCUSSION ABOUT<br>
VINCENT BUGLIOSI'S<br>
"53 PIECES OF EVIDENCE"</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/ghostwriting.html">REFUTING DAVID LIFTON'S ALLEGATION THAT VINCENT BUGLIOSI'S "RECLAIMING HISTORY" WAS GHOSTWRITTEN BY SEVERAL <br />
DIFFERENT AUTHORS</a><br />
<br />
<a name="Reclaiming-History-Errors"></a><br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/errors-in-reclaiming-history.html">SETTING THE RECORD A LITTLE STRAIGHTER -- CORRECTING A FEW "RECLAIMING HISTORY" ERRORS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/reclaiming-history-errors.html">"RECLAIMING HISTORY" ERRORS<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-929.html">"RECLAIMING HISTORY" ERRORS <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/16-smoking-guns-or-16-misfires.html">16 "SMOKING GUNS"? <br />
OR 16 MISFIRES?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/reclaiming-history-talk.html">DVP VS. A CONSPIRACY THEORIST<br />
(TOPICS: VINCENT BUGLIOSI, <br />
"RECLAIMING HISTORY",<br />
AND SOME OTHER STUFF TOO)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/dvp-correspondence-with-vincent-bugliosi.html">DVP's CORRESPONDENCE <br />
WITH VINCENT BUGLIOSI <br />
AND VINCE'S SECRETARY, <br />
ROSEMARY NEWTON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/remembering-vince-bugliosi-1934-2015.html">VINCENT T. BUGLIOSI<br />
(1934—2015)</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Reviews"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LuMcaPmpAmA/TbKKHkc5TMI/AAAAAAAAVC4/6tWl_vV-zZM/s1600/19-Book-And-Movie-Reviews.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-reclaiming-history.html">"RECLAIMING HISTORY" <br />
BY VINCENT BUGLIOSI</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/four-days-in-november-book-review.html">"FOUR DAYS IN NOVEMBER" <br />
BY VINCENT BUGLIOSI</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/book-reviews-for-beyond-reasonable-doubt.html">"BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT" <br />
BY MEL AYTON & DAVID VON PEIN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-with-malice.html">"WITH MALICE" <br />
BY DALE MYERS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/book-review-jfk-myths.html">"THE JFK MYTHS" <br />
BY LARRY STURDIVAN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-case-closed.html">"CASE CLOSED" <br />
BY GERALD POSNER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-death-of-president.html">"THE DEATH OF A PRESIDENT" <br />
BY WILLIAM MANCHESTER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/day-kennedy-was-shot.html">"THE DAY KENNEDY WAS SHOT" <br />
BY JIM BISHOP</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-national-nightmare.html">"NATIONAL NIGHTMARE <br />
ON SIX FEET OF FILM" <br />
BY RICHARD TRASK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-that-day-in-dallas.html">"THAT DAY IN DALLAS" <br />
BY RICHARD TRASK</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-oswalds-game.html">"OSWALD'S GAME" <br />
BY JEAN DAVISON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-conspiracy-of-one.html">"CONSPIRACY OF ONE" <br />
BY JIM MOORE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-kennedy-and-lincoln.html">"KENNEDY AND LINCOLN" <br />
BY DR. JOHN K. LATTIMER</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-you-are-jury.html">"NOVEMBER 22, 1963: <br />
YOU ARE THE JURY" <br />
BY DAVID BELIN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-simple-act-of-murder.html">"A SIMPLE ACT OF MURDER" <br />
BY MARK FUHRMAN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/memories-jfk-1961-1963.html">"THE MEMORIES--JFK--1961-1963"</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/when-news-went-live-dallas-1963.html">"WHEN THE NEWS WENT LIVE: <br />
DALLAS 1963" <br />
BY BOB HUFFAKER, BILL MERCER, <br />
GEORGE PHENIX, & WES WISE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-best-evidence.html">"BEST EVIDENCE" <br />
BY DAVID LIFTON</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/book-review-killing-of-president.html">"THE KILLING OF A PRESIDENT" <br />
BY ROBERT GRODEN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/four-days-in-november.html">DAVID L. WOLPER'S <br />
"FOUR DAYS IN NOVEMBER" <br />
(1964)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-oliver-stone-film.html">OLIVER STONE'S "JFK" <br />
(1991)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/rush-to-judgment.html">MARK LANE'S "RUSH TO JUDGMENT" <br />
(1967)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/executive-action.html">"EXECUTIVE ACTION" <br />
(1973)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/oswalds-ghost.html">"OSWALD'S GHOST" <br />
(2007)(PBS-TV)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/kennedy-assassination-beyond-conspiracy.html">"THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION: BEYOND CONSPIRACY" (2003)(ABC-TV)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/primary.html">"PRIMARY" (1960)(A DOCUMENTARY FILM BY ROBERT DREW)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/crisis.html">"CRISIS" (1963)(A DOCUMENTARY FILM BY ROBERT DREW)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/nbc-white-paper-age-of-kennedy.html">"NBC WHITE PAPER: <br />
THE AGE OF KENNEDY" <br />
(1966 NBC-TV DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/murder-of-jfk-revisionist-history.html">"THE MURDER OF JFK: <br />
A REVISIONIST HISTORY" <br />
(1999 DOCUMENTARY)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jfk-presidency-revealed.html">"JFK: A PRESIDENCY REVEALED" <br />
(2003 DOCUMENTARY FROM <br />
THE HISTORY CHANNEL)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/jfk-beyond-magic-bullet.html">"JFK: BEYOND THE MAGIC BULLET" <br />
(2004)(THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-lost-bullet.html">"JFK: THE LOST BULLET"<br />
(2011)(NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/kennedy-1983-television-mini-series.html">"KENNEDY" <br />
(1983 TELEVISION MINI-SERIES)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jacqueline-kennedy-onassis-remembered.html">"JACQUELINE KENNEDY ONASSIS REMEMBERED" (CBS-TV)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/four-days-that-shocked-world.html">"FOUR DAYS THAT SHOCKED THE WORLD: NOVEMBER 22-25, 1963" <br />
(AUDIO CD)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/evidence-of-revision.html">"EVIDENCE OF REVISION"</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Assorted-Assassination-Arguments"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vl-JQGcSU-w/TbKKHzzwsMI/AAAAAAAAVDA/O3P3vPmWc3g/s1600/20-Assorted-Assassination-Arguments.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/assorted-assassination-arguments.html">ASSORTED ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS <br />
(MORE THAN 1,000 POSTS)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-conspiracy-myths-continue.html">THE JFK ASSASSINATION <br />
CONSPIRACY MYTHS <br />
CONTINUE TO BE BELIEVED</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-804.html">CONSPIRACY MYTHS<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/motorcade-route.html">WAS JFK'S MOTORCADE ROUTE CHANGED AT THE LAST MINUTE?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1008.html">WHAT DO CONSPIRACY THEORISTS <br />
AND "LNers" AGREE ON? <br />
ANYTHING AT ALL?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-971.html">THE KATZENBACH MEMO</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-970.html">THE "6.5 MM. OBJECT" <br />
ON JFK'S X-RAY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-894.html">DO CONSPIRACY THEORISTS PROPERLY <br />
AND FAIRLY EVALUATE THE EVIDENCE?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/if-only.html">IF ONLY....</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1270.html">PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S BACK WOUND<br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/jfk-back-wound-location.html">JFK'S BACK WOUND<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1273.html">DR. PERRY, DAVID LIFTON, AND <br />
THE TRACHEOTOMY WOUND <br />
IN JFK'S THROAT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1347.html">LET'S "DISSECT" JFK'S<br>
NECK WOUND</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1240.html">MORE TALK ABOUT JFK'S WOUNDS<br />
(PLUS SOME OTHER TOPICS)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-912.html">PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S BRAIN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-928.html">WAS THERE "SECURITY STRIPPING" <br />
IN DALLAS ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-862.html">THE "BUNCHING UP" <br />
OF JFK'S CLOTHING</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1244.html#JFK's-Necktie">PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S NECKTIE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-958.html">DR. HUMES AND THE <br />
SIBERT/O'NEILL REPORT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/removing-body-of-jfk-from-dallas.html">REMOVING JFK'S <br />
BODY FROM DALLAS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-786.html">DID THE LIMOUSINE COME TO A <br />
COMPLETE STOP ON ELM STREET?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-710.html">THE SPACING OF THE GUNSHOTS<br>
FIRED IN DEALEY PLAZA<br>
(PLUS SOME "OCCIPITAL" TALK)</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1111.html">THE SMELL OF GUNPOWDER<br />
IN DEALEY PLAZA</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/jfk-arm-raising.html">JFK'S ARM-RAISING: WAS IT "THORBURN'S POSITION"? <br />
OR DOES IT MATTER?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/what-are-odds.html">WHAT ARE THE ODDS...?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/mystery-deaths.html">ARE THESE SO-CALLED "MYSTERY DEATHS" REALLY SO MYSTERIOUS?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1120.html">BACK AND TO THE LEFT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Jackie+Trunk">WHAT WAS JACKIE DOING <br />
ON THE TRUNK?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1250.html">SHOULD LEE HARVEY OSWALD BE <br />
CONSIDERED THE "ALLEGED" ASSASSIN <br />
OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-95.html">THE CHICAGO PLOT</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-889.html">FACTS VS. FANTASY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-737.html">WAS THERE A SECOND WHOLE BULLET <br />
FOUND AT PARKLAND HOSPITAL?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1324.html">LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S CAB RIDE<br />
ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1024.html">EVALUATING ASSASSINATION POLLS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1167.html">ALBERT THOMAS' “WINK”</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1142.html">THE ROLL CALL AT THE DEPOSITORY</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1242.html">HELEN MARKHAM'S BUS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1122.html">ALTERED WITNESS STATEMENTS?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1135.html">THE AUTOPSY, NSAM 263, <br />
CE399's CHAIN OF CUSTODY, <br />
AND A FEW OTHER THINGS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1031.html">"PRAYER MAN" <br />
(AND OTHER ASSORTED TOPICS)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1293.html">A POTPOURRI OF<br>
ASSASSINATION-RELATED<br>
ARGUMENTS</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a name="Inside-The-Target-Car"></a><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jfk-inside-target-car-part-1.html">"JFK: INSIDE THE TARGET CAR" <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jfk-inside-target-car-part-2.html">"JFK: INSIDE THE TARGET CAR" <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jfk-inside-target-car-part-3.html">"JFK: INSIDE THE TARGET CAR" <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jfk-inside-target-car-part-4.html">"JFK: INSIDE THE TARGET CAR" <br />
(PART 4)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jfk-inside-target-car-part-5.html">"JFK: INSIDE THE TARGET CAR" <br />
(PART 5)</a><br />
<br />
<span style="font-size:160%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">-----------------------------</span></span><br />
<br />
<a name="Misc.-Posts-And-Articles"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xqVNyNAGp2k/TbKKIMdFZZI/AAAAAAAAVDI/mIjF76fghAg/s1600/21-Misc.-Posts-And-Articles.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/misc-jfk-assassination-posts.html">MISCELLANEOUS JFK-RELATED <br />
POSTS AND ARTICLES <br />
(MORE THAN 2,000 POSTS)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/debating-jfk-case-60-part-series.html">DEBATING THE JFK CASE <br />
(A 60-PART SERIES)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-trivia-page.html">JFK TRIVIA PAGE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-1968-clark-panel-report.html">THE 1968 CLARK PANEL REPORT</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/quoting-common-sense.html">QUOTING COMMON SENSE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/getting-back-to-basics.html">GETTING BACK TO BASICS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1258.html">KNOWN VS. UNKNOWN EVIDENCE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/lets-be-reasonable-part-1.html">LET'S BE REASONABLE <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/lets-be-reasonable-part-2.html">LET'S BE REASONABLE <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/why-would-they-do-this.html">WHY WOULD A PLOTTER DO THIS?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/alyea-film.html">TOM ALYEA'S FILM</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/05/charles-bronson-film.html">CHARLES BRONSON'S FILM</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/what-did-john-connally-see.html">WHAT DID GOVERNOR CONNALLY <br />
SEE ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963? <br />
AND WHAT DIDN'T HE SEE?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/becoming-lone-assassin-believer.html">A SHORTCUT TO BECOMING A LONE-ASSASSIN BELIEVER: WATCH THE 11/22/63 TELEVISION COVERAGE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/americas-long-vigil.html">AMERICA'S LONG VIGIL:<br />
WHAT WE WATCHED ON TELEVISION <br />
FROM NOVEMBER 22 TO 25, 1963</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1156.html">WHEN WAS LEE OSWALD'S NAME FIRST <br />
MENTIONED ON TELEVISION & RADIO?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/upi-wire-service-bulletins-11-22-63.html">UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL:<br />
THE FIRST BULLETINS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/missed-shot-controversy.html">THE SHOT THAT MISSED<br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-787.html">THE SHOT THAT MISSED<br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1112.html">SCOPE VS. IRON SIGHTS</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-461.html">CE510 AND CE512<br>
(THE TSBD BULLET SHELLS)</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-712.html">THE DEATH OF<br />
DOROTHY KILGALLEN</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/gary-mack-1946-2015.html">GARY MACK<br />
(1946—2015)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/walter-cronkite.html">WALTER CRONKITE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1060.html">STRIKING SIMILARITIES BETWEEN <br />
THE JFK ASSASSINATION AND <br />
THE O.J. SIMPSON MURDER CASE</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/happenstance-or-conspiracy-part-1.html">HAPPENSTANCE OR CONSPIRACY? <br />
(PART 1)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/happenstance-or-conspiracy-part-2.html">HAPPENSTANCE OR CONSPIRACY? <br />
(PART 2)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/happenstance-or-conspiracy-part-3.html">HAPPENSTANCE OR CONSPIRACY? <br />
(PART 3)</a><br />
<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1259.html">WERE THE CONSPIRATORS <br />
USING A CRYSTAL BALL?</a><br />
<br />
<br />
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-41881509304996726052024-03-01T03:22:00.000-08:002024-03-01T11:56:12.645-08:00 DAVID VON PEIN VS. JAMES DiEUGENIO —— THE COMPLETE SERIES —— <br />
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-42428997363936431602024-03-01T03:21:00.000-08:002024-03-01T11:56:58.681-08:00 DAVID VON PEIN VS. DAVID LIFTON <br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/19777-peter-janney-interviewed-by-dr-jim-fetzer-new-ground-or-new-low/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-272866">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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The bottom line in the Kennedy assassination is not whether “Oswald was guilty” (he wasn’t) or whether he “acted alone” etc. The bottom line is whether, in connection with President Kennedy’s assassination, a strategic deception was employed (perhaps “deployed” is a better word) to hide the truth and create a false solution to the crime.<br />
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I am referring, of course, to the notion that the President’s murder was simply the result of a person firing three shots from a bolt action rifle from a sniper’s nest on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Either that is the truth, or it is a construct fabricated as part of a sophisticated strategic deception.<br />
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Ultimately, that's what this case is all about--and, in the long light of history, that's the way it will be viewed.<br />
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In other words, the bottom line is whether it was planned in advance to falsify the key evidence so as to frame a pre-selected scapegoat, and create a false reality which was then fed to the media in real time, and then went into the main arteries of all subsequent investigations.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/19777-peter-janney-interviewed-by-dr-jim-fetzer-new-ground-or-new-low/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-272916">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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And as part of this <i>"sophisticated strategic deception"</i>, the conspirators decided it was a <i>good and sensible idea</i> to make it as difficult as humanly possible to hide the conspiracy by deliberately firing all of the shots at President Kennedy from the FRONT, while firing ZERO shots from the rear (which is where they planted their one and only patsy named Oswald). Is that correct, David L.? (Not to mention the difficulty that the plotters deliberately set up for themselves regarding the altering of the President's wounds after the shooting.)<br />
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I think we can take out the word <b>"sophisticated"</b> in David Lifton's above quote and replace it with <b>"idiotic"</b>. Because that latter word is much more appropriate.<br />
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Please, David Lifton, explain to me what was going through the collective minds of those silly conspirators in the days and weeks before JFK went to Dallas? Were they all just nuts when they DELIBERATELY tried to frame a guy in the DEPOSITORY by firing ONLY from the Knoll? Please explain the logic of that decision. I doubt that you can <i>reasonably</i> explain the logic of that decision, because it defies all logic and rational thinking, and is a plan that only a total lunatic would undertake.<br />
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In addition -- How do you, David L., explain away witnesses like Howard Brennan, Amos Euins, Bob Jackson, and Mal Couch -- each of whom said they saw with their own eyes a rifle sticking out of the sixth-floor window on the southeast end of the Book Depository <i>at the exact time when the President was being shot with rifle bullets on Elm Street</i>?<br />
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Did those witnesses merely see a person who was only PRETENDING to fire a gun at JFK? You don't think that sixth-floor rifleman fired ANY shots from that gun seen by those witnesses?<br />
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And what about Harold Norman? Was he lying when he said he HEARD the rifle being fired from directly above him in the Depository? Is Harold yet another one of the many people you must call a liar in this case, DSL?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130509181337/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,8312.msg242150.html">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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On the London Education Forum, David Von Pein recently cited the existence of witnesses to someone firing a weapon from the SE corner 6th Floor window and challenged me to defend my position that, based on such evidence, I was wrong in asserting that President Kennedy was struck only from the front (which derives from my reading of the Dallas medical reports and testimony). <br />
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I do not think you (or your pal Vince Bugliosi) have ever understood what the Kennedy murder was all about. You both seem to view it as a simple homicide. But it was not. It was not simply about "killing the President"; It was about murdering the President and getting away with it.<br />
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That could not have been accomplished by simply firing shots and leaving the evidence undisturbed, because the evidence, in that case, would have pointed to the guilty party.<br />
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And by "the evidence," I am referring to the standard view of "the evidence" in this case. Surely you are familiar with that "evidence": The rifle, the shells, etc.<br />
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So that's why, in this case, the evidence had to be altered, messed with, replaced, substituted, planted, choose your own terms; and that's why the standard techniques of investigation did not (and will not) work in this case. Critical evidence has been changed, and replaced with a false overlay, if you will.<br />
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Some of that was done before the actual shooting (and I'm referring here to the creation of the so-called "sniper's nest"); and some afterwards (e.g., the planting of a bullet on a stretcher, or bullet fragments in the presidential limousine).<br />
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Unfortunately for you and your pal, Vince Bugliosi (who I suspect vets most of your posts, assuming he does not provide actual draft materials for your posts) <b>[LOL! Lifton's hilarious!]</b> he views Dealey Plaza (and Oswald) as if he were retrying the Manson case. A madman was responsible; a psycho named Oswald.<br />
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But Oswald was not Charlie Manson, and Vince Bugliosi doesn't seem to understand that. And I doubt he ever will.<br />
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If the President's body was altered, then this was a body-centric plot; that is, it was a plot not just to murder President Kennedy by shooting him, but then (i.e., afterwards) to alter the medical facts of the case (i.e., alter the wounds, remove bullets, etc.) -- all of that done to change the story of how JFK died. To alter the "medical facts" and thus change the "legal facts" as to how JFK died for the FBI, and for any subsequent investigation, whether it was a presidential commission, a congressional investigation, whatever. It would not matter.<br />
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Viewed that way, this was a plot "with a built-in cover-up"--and was akin to a piece of domestic espionage.<br />
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<a name="1"></a>If the wounds were inflicted from the front (only), then what you're witnessing on the sixth floor of the TSBD is a diversion. Is that so difficult to grasp?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130509233347/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,8312.msg242157.html#msg242157">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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But David Lifton seems to totally ignore the VERIFIABLE FACT that he is DEAD WRONG about the wounds only being inflicted from the FRONT. <br />
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The idea that NO shots struck either the President or Governor Connally from behind is so unbelievably wrong, false, and utterly STUPID, I don't really need to say anything more.<br />
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And it's not just JFK who was PROVABLY struck TWICE from behind with rifle bullets, but it's also John Connally too, who was PROVABLY struck one time from BEHIND. <br />
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Why do you, David Lifton, feel the need to totally ignore Dr. Robert R. Shaw's statements and testimony? And what about Governor Connally HIMSELF? Connally never once even HINTED that he was shot from any other direction than FROM BEHIND. He felt a bullet hit him in the upper back and he always said it <i><b>"felt like someone hit me with a balled-up fist"</b></i> -- IN THE BACK, which had to have come FROM BEHIND the Governor at the time he was hit.<br />
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Question for Mr. Lifton -- Has even ONE other human being on the face of this planet called "Earth" said they agree with your theory about NO shots at all striking JFK or John Connally FROM BEHIND? If one such other person exists on this planet, please provide his name, because I've never heard about him.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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So of course the body was altered, and the doctors at Bethesda recognized that. Immediately. That's why Dr. Humes said--and this was written down by the two FBI agents witnessing the beginning of the autopsy--that it was "apparent" that there had been "surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of the skull."<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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The <i>"surgery of the head area"</i> crap is yet another myth that Mr. Lifton, like a child named Linus who can't bear the thought of getting rid of his trusty security blanket, refuses to let go of.<br />
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Perhaps you, Mr. Lifton, haven't heard <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-james-sibert.html">this 2005 C-Span interview</a></b> with James W. Sibert, who was one of those two FBI agents who witnessed portions of JFK's autopsy at Bethesda.<br />
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Of particular interest during that interview are several portions of Mr. Sibert's detailed re-telling of the things he witnessed during President Kennedy's autopsy at Bethesda, such as when Sibert talks about the "surgery of the head area" remark made by lead autopsy surgeon James J. Humes, with Sibert laying to rest the incorrect speculation about this remark.<br />
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And there's also the important details revealed by Sibert concerning the bullet fragments that he saw that night in 1963, i.e., the two very small metal fragments that were removed from President Kennedy's brain and then handed over to Sibert and placed in a glass jar [<a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0434a.htm">Warren Commission Exhibit 843</a>].<br />
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The size of these small fragments, as repeated by Sibert during the 2005 interview, measured 7x2 millimeters and 3x1 millimeters.<br />
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The verbatim quote shown below should put to rest the erroneous idea that any whole (or nearly whole) "missile" was recovered during any part of JFK's autopsy on 11/22/63:<br />
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<i><b>"There was no large bullet of any kind there at Bethesda during this autopsy that was found."</i></b> -- James W. Sibert; June 30, 2005<br />
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The other FBI agent at the autopsy, Francis X. O'Neill, also confirmed in <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/interview-with-francis-oneill.html"><b>this 1979 video</b></a> that only fragments were recovered from JFK's body, not any whole bullet.<br />
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The so-called "missile" handled by Sibert and O'Neill on November 22 consisted of very small FRAGMENTS of metal removed from JFK's head -- fragments only. How do we know this for an absolute ironclad fact? Two reasons:<br />
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1.) Dr. Humes, et al, were searching desperately during the autopsy for a bullet (or bullets)--ANY signs of a bullet or bullets!--inside JFK's body. They found NONE. Zero. Zilch. Only the small fragments in the head. Nothing else.<br />
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2.) No whole "bullet" (or nearly whole bullet) was entered into evidence by Sibert, O'Neill, or anybody else connected in any way to President Kennedy's autopsy. The only whole bullet in the entire case is <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#CE399">Commission Exhibit 399</a>. Period. And that wasn't found at Bethesda.<br />
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If a whole "bullet" (or "missile") had been found at Bethesda, then that bullet would be part of the evidence on the table in this case TODAY. The reason that none of the three autopsists testified to seeing a whole bullet during the autopsy is because no such "bullet" exists....and never did.<br />
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The 2005 interview with Sibert also pretty much (all by itself) destroys the credibility of David Lifton and his fairy-tale book "Best Evidence", inasmuch as Lifton relied very heavily on the observations of FBI agent Sibert to try and support a good chunk of the nonsensical "body alteration" assassination theory that appears in that book.<br />
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But, as Sibert explains in no uncertain terms during his 2005 interview, the "surgery of the head area" remark made by Dr. Humes was not referring to any type of covert "surgery" done by evil conspirators prior to the Bethesda autopsy (which is covert surgery that Mr. Lifton firmly believes did take place, in order to alter the wounds on the President's body). Listen to the 2005 interview and hear Sibert's explanation for the "surgery" remark.<br />
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So much for Mr. Lifton's "Best Evidence".<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Are you so wedded to the idea that Oswald was a murderer that you cannot conceive of a plan to frame him for a crime he did not commit?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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To reciprocate:<br />
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Are you, David S. Lifton, so wedded to the impossible notion that President John F. Kennedy's body was secretly stolen off of Air Force One and his wounds altered by an unknown group of conspirators on November 22, 1963, and so wedded to the additional foolish belief that every shot that hit the two limo victims came from in FRONT of the car, that you cannot even conceive (for even a moment) that your outlandish theories just MIGHT be inaccurate?<br />
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The JFK case has a very curious effect on certain people (such as David Lifton of Los Angeles) -- They treat the evidence as if it's something that needs to be <b>molded</b> and <b>crafted</b> into something that it is not. In plainer terms, they simply IGNORE all the evidence of <a href="http://Oswald-Is-Guilty.blogspot.com">Lee Harvey Oswald's lone guilt</a> in the assassination of the 35th President, and they expect the masses to fall at their feet and give thanks to these expert "researchers" like Mr. Lifton who have literally made a mockery out of the true evidence in this case.<br />
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Body alteration....casket-switching....bullet-planting...."diversions" in the Sniper's Nest window....NO SHOTS hit the victims from behind....and "Oswald Was Nothing But A Patsy" are the mottos endorsed by this band of JFK conspiracists.<br />
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And, incredibly, ALL of the above cloak-and-dagger hocus-pocus (aka: hogwash) is supposedly, per the likes of David Lifton, providing a MORE REASONABLE and MORE LOGICAL and MORE RATIONAL and MORE TRUTHFUL explanation to the events in Dallas on 11/22/63 than to simply believe that the evidence in this case has NOT been forged, faked, or manipulated and, therefore, Lee Harvey Oswald was just exactly what the evidence in this case says he was --- a <b>double-murderer</b>.<br />
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Somebody please provide Mr. Lifton with a dictionary -- because he evidently has no idea what the definitions are for words like "Reasonable", "Rational", "Logical", and "Truthful".<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES GORDON SAID:</span></b><br />
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David,<br />
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You did not properly read what David Lifton said. <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/david-von-pein-vs-david-lifton.html#1">The crucial sentence</a> - which you correctly quoted - was prefaced with the word “if.”<br />
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David Lifton's point is that the critical shots were fired from another source, other than the back. .... Lifton did not say live rounds were not fired from the rear: he simply said that the shots fired from that direction were a diversion to keep attention from the main source of shots.<br />
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In effect he is saying that shots were fired from both front and back - and that the most critical of those two sources were the shots being fired from the front.<br />
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I have no problems with that analysis.<br />
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If I have correctly understood what David Lifton has said, then it is clear you have misunderstood what he said.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Oh, come now, James. You know darn well what Mr. Lifton was saying -- he was saying that he believes ALL the shots that hit anyone in the limousine came from the FRONT, with no shots hitting anyone from BEHIND the President's car.<b>*</b><br />
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And he also implied an additional element of pre-assassination lunacy by actually saying that the assassins <i>designed it that way</i>--with the plotters knowing (well before November 22nd, obviously) that they were going to attempt to frame a guy in the Depository, even though they had no intention at all of firing any shots at JFK's body from the place where they were going to frame the patsy--the 6th floor of the TSBD--even though they COULD have simply shot JFK with the useless "diversionary" rifle that the Oswald look-alike had in his possession in the Sniper's Nest. <br />
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But the goofy plotters decided it was MUCH better to make things as difficult as possible for themselves--so they shot JFK from the FRONT only, and then framed Oswald in the REAR. What a lovely plan--if your assassination team is comprised of nothing but morons, that is. Or comprised of weirdos who just wanted to keep the "Let's Plant Evidence" division of their organization super-busy after the assassination.<br />
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<b>*</b> And although Lifton was careful to not specifically say that John Connally, too, was hit by no bullets fired from the rear (David's apparently going to save the "Connally bombshell" evidence for his future book release, <i>"Final Charade"</i>) <b>[2022 EDIT -- For a preview of the "Connally Bombshell", <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/david-von-pein-vs-david-lifton.html#John-Connally-Bombshell">Click Here</a>]</b>, it's pretty clear that Lifton also believes that no shots from behind struck Connally either -- otherwise, Lifton would have no reason to say that he thinks that Connally's injuries resulted in some kind of a "cover-up" too.<br />
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So, why sugar-coat the bullshit that David Lifton has forced upon us -- he thinks <b>NO SHOTS FROM THE REAR</b> struck Kennedy or Connally. And that, of course, is a silly and ludicrous position to take. And you'd think that Mr. Lifton would be more than a little embarrassed to present such claptrap in public. But, evidently he's not embarrassed in the slightest. Go figure.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160327164120/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a22a0c8f45631e4c75f12ea4c9b5984e&topic=8312.msg242179#msg242179">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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Oh, here we go again. The name calling—this time, disparaging the evidence. Why not address the record, DVP (or Mr Bugliosi, who I suspect actually vets your text). And since you contracted with Fred Haines to write over 200 pages of your book (on the subject of Oswald's biography, which you acknowledged), and since Dale Myers wrote, and/or rewrote, over 400 pages of your book, under contract with Norton, (again, acknowledged, but not the fact that an earlier agreement actually provided him with practically co-author credit) why do you need a surrogate on the Internet? Why not just post under your own name?<br>
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<b>a) The body left Dallas wrapped in sheets; it arrived at Bethesda in a body bag;<br>
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b) The body left Dallas in an expensive 400 pound viewing casket; it arrived at Bethesda in a shipping casket.</b><br>
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Moreover, in the area of the intercept—my publisher advanced the funds necessary to film the witnesses in October, 1980, and so you can view the BEST EVIDENCE RESEARCH VIDEO and see these accounts for yourself. Do you think this was all made up?<br>
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Who do you think you are—Bugliosi (or proxy, Mr. DVP): Do you think you can ignore this kind of evidence, simply because you have an exaggerated sense of your self importance? Didn’t anyone ever teach you, in law school, that you were supposed to pay attention to the evidence, or do you think you can simply call the other side names, and so the jury will believe you?<br>
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There is nothing “impossible” about the conclusions I have presented. They are grounded in the evidence—evidence rooted (a) in the medical data coming from Parkland Hospital and (b) the serious contradiction between what the “Dallas data” shows, and what is reported in the Bethesda autopsy protocol.<br>
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Moreover, the President’s body was not “secretly stolen off of Air Force One.” On the order of higher authority, it was removed from the coffin and taken out of the main fuselage of the plane.<br>
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<b>DSL RESPONSE (responding similarly):</b> The JFK case has a very curious effect on certain people—especially an egotistical and self-involved prosecutor who had become so well known because of HELTER SKELTER—the book co-written by himself and the very talented writer, Curt Gentry—that, when dealing with the Kennedy assassination, he was naturally attracted to the evidence as if it needed “to be molded and crafted” using the same template that he used to convict Charles Manson.<br>
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Unfortunately, Lee Oswald was not Charles Manson. Lee Oswald was a very intelligent guy who had gone to Russia for 2-1/2 plus years, who happened to greatly admire President Kennedy, and who became the pre-selected scapegoat in this affair. But the prosecutor of Charles Manson apparently was duped and was so “full of himself” that he thought he could recycle the same methodology, use the same “legal template”, and then “expect the masses to fall at (his) feet and give thanks to this expert “prosecutor” who was duped by falsified evidence.”<br>
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This same prosecutor has—because of the London trial—left an extensive video record of his self righteousness and gullibility, which will surely outlive his time. Someday, when this case breaks wide open—and it will—the kinds of things he said, and the foolish certainty with which he said them, will leave people saying: “Just look at that...even Vincent Bugliosi believed that case.”<br>
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Body alteration...casket-switching (which is the evidence of a covert intercept)...bullet planting (which is the evidence of ballistic falsification)...“diversions” in the sniper’s nest (which is the evidence of a rather clever scheme)...all of this is the signature of a clever plot destined to (a) murder the president and then (b) change the “legal facts” about how he died. Oswald was nothing but a patsy (which will be unquestionably proved, in the long light of history). All of this will someday be cited as elements of a serious plot to take Kennedy’s life, and disguise his murder as a quirk of fate.<br>
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And, incredibly, all [of] the above evidence, indicia of a sophisticated covert operation, sailed right past the mind of Vincent Bugliosi, and others like him, who took the evidence at face value; who (in the case of Vincent Bugliosi) apparently got their attitudes, formative experiences, and mental templates, from trying Charles Manson, rather than paying attention to real history, and perhaps reading Shakespeare.<br>
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Somebody please provide Mr. Bugliosi with a refresher course on evidence (and particularly on the importance of the concept of the "chain of possession"; and, in addition, and perhaps even more important, with some real history, as to what has gone on over the past 1000 years, and perhaps a tutor in some good literature—e.g., Shakespeare—so he will learn about human motivation and real history, while he is still around, so as not to leave us all with the impression that his education and “historical insights” are limited to what he learned from the Manson trial.<br>
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Good day, sir! ... er, "sirs".<br>
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DSL<br>
5/5/13; 2:10 AM PDT<br>
Los Angeles, California<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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David L.,<br />
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You can stop calling me Vince any time now. Mr. Bugliosi has no control over what I write--and never has. Vince, AFAIK, still doesn't even own a computer, and the only contact I have ever had with Vince is via his secretary through e-mails passed back and forth <b>[<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/dvp-correspondence-with-vincent-bugliosi.html">Click Here</a>]</b>. But I'm pleased to know you think I'm Vince. No greater compliment could be bestowed upon me. Thank you.<br />
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As for your <b><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160327164120/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a22a0c8f45631e4c75f12ea4c9b5984e&topic=8312.msg242179#msg242179">last post</a></b> of evidence-mangling and distortion of the known facts surrounding JFK's murder, I think one word can sum that up nicely (and excuse me for repeating myself):<br />
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<i>Hogwash!</i><br />
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And if someone thinks that David Lifton, in his last two posts, HASN'T totally distorted and misrepresented and misinterpreted the evidence in the JFK case, they'd better think again. Because anyone who has the nerve to claim that John Kennedy and John Connally were struck by ZERO bullets fired from behind the limousine doesn't even deserve a place at the "Assassination Research" table. He should be UNDER the table. And I don't care whether <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0451175735?ie=UTF8&tag=dvsre-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0451175735">his book</a> won 6 Pulitzers and a Grammy and the Best Picture Oscar for 1980 -- his theories are still provably BUNK. Period.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON, WHO FOR SOME REASON SEEMS TO THINK THAT I AM VINCENT BUGLIOSI, SAID:</span></b><br />
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Your 1500 page [sic] book, Vince, is a monument to your obstinacy, your ego, and, unfortunately, your gullibility; because you have accepted falsified evidence as real. Because of that, you took seriously the false version of history that was created on 11/22/63, by Kennedy's murderers, to hide the truth about how he died; falsified evidence which then became legal foundation for concluding that Lee Oswald was Kennedy's assassin.<br />
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You swallowed all that hook, line and sinker.<br />
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Stop ignoring the evidence, Vince.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Stop embarrassing yourself, Mr. Lifton. Please. (And, btw, Vincent's book is 2800+ pages, including the CD-ROM material.) :)<br />
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You act as if Vince Bugliosi and myself (if you can stop thinking that I <i>am</i> Vince) are the only two people on the planet who think Oswald did it, or are the only people who think your theory is bunk. <br />
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Nonsense.<br />
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What about the HSCA?<br />
What about the Rockefeller Commission?<br />
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Those committees concluded that OSWALD KILLED KENNEDY too. Not to mention the Warren Commission, which started it all. And not to mention most of the members of the Dallas Police Department too. Let me guess--Will Fritz and Jim Leavelle and Gerald Hill are all liars too. Right, David?<br />
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So, you think the HSCA (with dozens of people on its staff) swallowed a false theory about Oswald's guilt <i>"hook, line, and sinker"</i>, too? Is that it? The HSCA was also gullible enough to NOT believe that JFK's body was stolen and then altered?<br />
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I asked this question previously, and it deserves a replay here, I think:<br />
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I wonder what the Vegas odds would be of Oswald not killing Kennedy, and yet having <i><b>BOTH</i></b> official investigative organizations [Warren Commission and HSCA] concluding that he did? <br />
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Any idea?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Remember what they taught you in law school, Vince [sic], about the importance of the "earliest recorded recollection"?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Well, then, let's listen to the earliest POSSIBLE statement by Dr. Robert R. Shaw concerning Governor Connally's wounds--this video below is from Shaw's 11/22/63 news conference at Parkland, right after Shaw operated on John Connally. Let's see David S. Lifton wiggle out of this 1963 statement, with DSL favoring some 1967 Shaw interview instead:<br />
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<center><iframe src="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VsU0g-Ykbf4ZoY33jD2KAL2rMZFglXgs/preview" width="402" height="300"></iframe></center><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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I do not understand how today, people can return to these accounts and reasonably claim that this or that doctor did not see what he said he did.<br />
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The notion that <b><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lLWqbNL8Zgo/UYraEfUOHfI/AAAAAAAAuis/RtjG5B8TugM/s1600/JFK_Autopsy_Photo_BOH.jpg">this is what the President's head looked like</a></b>, at Bethesda, is--as far as I'm concerned--not just unlikely. It's simply absurd.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160330140840/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=51b719ac7a680207641a177d15d8f668&topic=8295.msg242382#msg242382">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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And yet we have THREE different forms of <b><i>photographic proof</i></b> that indicate the Parkland doctors were wrong --<br />
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1.) The autopsy photographs.<br />
2.) The autopsy X-rays.<br />
3.) The Zapruder Film.<br />
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Am I <i>really</i> supposed to believe that ALL of the above items are fakes, David, including <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8UwZ588YcqIc3hRRHluY2NmR2c/view">Mr. Zapruder's home movie</a>? And Mr. Zapruder's movie and camera, keep in mind, are items that were never out of Mr. Zapruder's sight from the time he filmed the assassination to the time the film was developed and processed. So is Abe Z. a part of a plot too? He'd almost HAVE to be in order to even BEGIN to believe that his film is a fake.<br />
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Mr. Lifton,<br />
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Can you tell us what credentials you possess in photo analysis and photo authentication that would make you determine that the two pictures below are fakes and frauds (even though the HSCA determined the exact opposite on <a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0026a.htm">Page 41 of HSCA Volume 7</a>)?:<br />
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<img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lLWqbNL8Zgo/UYraEfUOHfI/AAAAAAAAuis/RtjG5B8TugM/s320/JFK_Autopsy_Photo_BOH.jpg"> <img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H_fBxmWdSk4/UcpVuTy7TVI/AAAAAAAAu6o/4ziEd8x0xng/s1600/JFK-Head-Xray.jpg"><br />
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Also:<br />
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Mr. Lifton, can I get you to agree that if even one of the above photographic items is NOT a fake and a fraud [including the Zapruder Film], then President Kennedy definitely did NOT have a great-big hole in the back (occipital) area of his head?<br />
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Thank you.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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David Von Pein,<br />
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You are so arrogant, and so utterly ill informed.<br />
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I played a role in creating this historical record, which you so glibly, arrogantly (and ignorantly) dismiss.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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What reasonable person WOULDN'T dismiss your kooky ideas? <br />
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I mean, for Pete sake, you think JFK and Connally were struck by NO SHOTS FROM BEHIND. Talk about being "arrogant". Geesh. It really takes some arrogance to put that idiotic theory on the table at a JFK Forum filled with people who have studied this case for a long time.<br />
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And you think JFK's body was spirited off of Air Force One and his wounds were ALTERED BEFORE THE AUTOPSY. (Aren't you pleased I didn't use the word you hate--"stolen"?) Here again--it's a dumb theory. Simple as that. Not to mention--impossible.<br />
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I don't give a damn how long you've been researching this case. And I don't care how many Bethesda and Parkland witnesses you have talked to. The above two theories I just mentioned (which you fully endorse and think are the Gospel truth in this case) are, simply put, crazy theories. And they are just plain wrong. And all reasonable people who have studied the JFK case know it.<br />
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So, to toss your words to me back in your face, Mr. Lifton, you can stick your stupid theories "where the sun don't shine". Because that's where they belong.<br />
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<b><i>"David Lifton's 15-year-long "body alteration" odyssey makes for a heavy and impressive-looking publication, but the theory within the pages [of his book] falls way short in the "Proof That It Really Happened" department, and (above all) it falls monumentally short in the "Common Sense" department as well. [Lifton's] book ["Best Evidence"] is a conspiracist's attempt to literally rewrite the history of John F. Kennedy's tragic death by taking the most important piece of physical evidence in the entire case -- President Kennedy's own body -- and postulating a conspiratorial cover-up scenario so full of implausibilities, complexities, roadblocks, and complications that even with God's own help from the heavens above, the plot theorized here would have still been an iffy proposition--at best. In short, anybody who would accept as true the nonsensical theory of JFK's body being stolen off of Air Force One by evil plotters should check themselves into the nearest insane asylum and seek immediate treatment for 'Conspiracy Theory Overdose'."</i></b> -- David Von Pein; January/March 2006<br />
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<i><b>"One theory that perhaps "takes the cake" is set forth by conspiracy author David Lifton in his book "Best Evidence". .... Out of his 747 pages, [Lifton] unbelievably devotes no more than 6 or 7 full pages, if that, to Oswald. .... One could safely say that David Lifton took folly to an unprecedented level. And considering the monumental foolishness of his colleagues in the conspiracy community, that's saying something."</i></b> <br />
-- Vincent Bugliosi; Pages 1057, 1058, and 1066 of <a href="http://ReclaimingHistory.blogspot.com"><i>"Reclaiming History"</i></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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The photographs of those who saw the President’s head in Dallas completely contradict the color photograph you are displaying. Those doctors (and nurses) saw the back of the head and they said—in their reports, testimony, and when I interviewed them—that there was an avulsive wound at the back of the head.<br />
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The photograph you are using is also contradicted by the clear language of the Bethesda autopsy report, a report written by Dr. James Humes, the Director of the lab, and co-signed by Boswell and Finck. That report states that the large wound extended into the occipital area. But that does not appear in the color photograph you have posted. Do you really believe those three doctors—Humes, Finck and Boswell—were so incompetent that they could not properly describe where a large hole in the head was located—as well as where it was <i>not</i>?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I discuss the autopsy report's <i>"somewhat into the occipital"</i> language in the multi-part "BOH" [Back Of Head] series posted at my website <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#JFK-Head-Wounds">HERE</a></b>. In those "BOH" discussions, I am battling mostly just one person--Mr. John A. Canal--who, ironically, believes that Lee Oswald fired all the shots, but Canal believes that Humes deliberately "under-reported" the amount of damage done to JFK's head.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES GORDON SAID:</span></b><br />
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It is not irrational if someone, who studies the evidence and discovers that is where the evidence leads, to accept that something underhand[ed] must have taken place.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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But, James, in David Lifton's body-alteration theory, we are expected to accept as true something that is so outlandish and unlikely (and, per witnesses like Dave Powers, so <i>physically impossible</i> even), that I do not think it's unreasonable to reject that theory out of hand. Just as it's not unreasonable to reject similar "impossible" theories out of hand -- e.g., Brian David Andersen's theory of JFK not being killed at all (he thinks that JFK himself activated a "pyrotechnics device" that was attached to his head, which made it falsely seem like his head was exploding)....and the "Jackie Did It" theory which has recently been postulated by some nutty dame at a JFK newsgroup.<br />
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Those are theories that are not <i>"reasonable"</i> theories. And I put Mr. Lifton's body-alteration theory in that same category.<br />
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Which means that the discrepancies in the testimony between the Parkland and Bethesda witnesses MUST have an alternate explanation to resolve them--other than the most extreme explanation of "body alteration" and "casket switching", etc.<br />
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What all of those alternative explanations are, I'll admit, I cannot say. But I truly think that the "multiple body arrivals" at Bethesda can be explained -- those witnesses, such as Dennis David, merely saw OTHER (non-JFK) caskets entering the Bethesda morgue. Does David Lifton have knowledge of there being absolutely NO other casket arrivals at Bethesda on the night of November 22 OTHER than JFK's casket? If so, what is that proof?<br />
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The only explanation that makes any sense at all to me regarding the multiple casket entries is that those other caskets just simply had other (non-JFK) bodies in them.<br />
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And I'd also have to ask -- If the plotters KNEW that Kennedy's body had been taken out of an expensive ornamental casket in Dallas (and they surely knew that, right?), then why on Earth would they have placed JFK in some el-cheapo pinkish-gray "shipping" casket for the entry at Bethesda? Didn't the plotters think anybody would notice the (huge) difference in casket types? Or didn't they think anybody would care--or report the differences?<br />
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The same logical question must also be asked about the body wrappings -- Why would anyone place JFK's body into a zipped body bag, when they knew he had been wrapped only in sheets when they swiped the body off of Air Force One in Dallas?<br />
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Did ANY of the body-alteration team members have a working brain? (Just wondering, David, that's all. But I know I'm not supposed to ask such <b>"What Were They Thinking?"</b> type of questions. We're supposed to just accept <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/paul-oconnor.html">Paul O'Connor's</a> four-tiered conspiratorial tale without asking the two questions I just asked.)<br />
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And here's a third one -- How could the doctors (on November 25th) have performed a Supplementary Brain Exam (as revealed in the autopsy report in an <a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0284b.htm">Appendix in the Warren Report</a>) if there really was "NO BRAIN" in JFK's cranium to be examined on the night of the autopsy, as reported by Paul K. O'Connor?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES GORDON SAID:</span></b><br />
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When it became clear to me that the Single Bullet Theory was not possible, then it was clear that the throat wound had to be an entrance wound. As you are so fond of informing me, and others, “O.k. if the throat wound is an entrance wound – where is the bullet?” The only answer to that is that it was removed.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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You do realize, don't you James, that you've just DOUBLED the "bullet" problem for yourself, right?<br />
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Because if the throat-wound bullet entered and never exited (and was "removed") as you say, then you've got to say the same thing about the back-wound bullet too. Remember, JFK was struck in the upper back by a bullet too.<br />
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So now you've got TWO bullets going into JFK's soft flesh--striking no bone to speak of (save the trachea damage, which, even per Dr. [Cyril] Wecht, wasn't enough to cause the bullet to deflect from its original trajectory)--with NEITHER of those bullets exiting the body....and then both bullets just VANISH.<br />
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And THAT type of theory is MORE logical and reasonable than is the SBT, James? Really? I beg to differ.<br />
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This also gives me a great excuse to re-post one of the best and humorous quotes ever written about the silly <b>"2 Bullets Entered And Neither Exited"</b> theory that conspiracy theorists are so fond of:<br />
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<i>"The assassins choose bullets that inflict non-lethal, 1-inch-deep wounds? Instead of feeding JFK to lions, they decided to nibble him to death by ducks?"</i> <br />
<b>-- Bud (at the alt.conspiracy.jfk newsgroup); April 1, 2006</b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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I'm starting to think that I really was wrong in assuming Bugliosi was writing (or vetting) your text, because what passes for "reasoning" is so sophomoric it is truly an embarrassment.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Why on Earth anyone would be silly enough to think that Mr. Bugliosi writes or "vets" my Internet posts is anyone's guess. But it's a really stupid suggestion, David. Vince doesn't have the slightest idea what I'm writing on the Internet. And I haven't a clue as to why you would think he does (or ever has). ~big shrug~<br />
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Maybe you should ask Pat Lambert. After all, she's another person you were <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/ghostwriting.html">100% wrong about</a></b> when it comes to the topics of "writing for other people" and "ghostwriting" and "Vincent Bugliosi".<br />
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For those who aren't aware of this hilarious story -- David Lifton, on May 24, 2007, decided to go on Len Osanic's Black Op (Conspiracies 'R Us) Radio show and claim that <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0871319209?ie=UTF8&tag=dvsre-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0871319209">"False Witness"</a> author Patricia Lambert had practically written all (or certainly most) of Vincent Bugliosi's 90-page chapter about the Jim Garrison case and Oliver Stone's movie.<br />
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After learning about Lifton's crackpot "ghostwriting" charges, Pat Lambert made a statement in early July 2007, in which she said she had not written a single sentence (or word) of Mr. Bugliosi's book. AFAIK, however, Mr. Lifton has never offered up a public apology to Ms. Lambert.<br />
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What was that you were preaching to me in <b><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160327060502/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=600ff9591675378e8b4f3e1dd0bde980&topic=8295.msg242686#msg242686">your last post</a></b>, Mr. Lifton -- about "ethics"? (Geesh.)<br />
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Now, let's see what other comic antics "Mr. Body Alteration" has in store for Davey tonight.....<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Your writing indicates you really do not function logically.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Says the guy who thinks it's MORE logical to think that President Kennedy was shot by NO BULLETS FROM BEHIND and also believes JFK's body was pilfered RIGHT OFF OF AIR FORCE ONE by unknown plotters and the BODY ALTERED.<br />
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Please continue, Mr. Alteration.....<br />
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<a name="Body-Arrival-Times"></a><b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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There is nothing physically impossible about taking the President's body out of the casket and moving it elsewhere on the plane, especially if the order to do so comes from "higher authority." What you seem to be avoiding is the fact that the body was in the coffin when the coffin was placed aboard Air Force One (at 2:18 CST) but could not possibly have been in the coffin when AF-1 landed (at 6 PM) because the body arrived at Bethesda in a body bag, inside a shipping casket, (at 6:35 PM) about 20 minutes prior to the Dallas casket, which arrived in the naval ambulance at 6:55 PM.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Oh, my weak bladder!!<br />
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And the funniest part about all this is -- David L. really believes it!<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Instead of sputtering and filling the Internet with insults, why not address the evidence?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Says the man who thinks Kennedy WASN'T SHOT FROM BEHIND AT ALL. <br />
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Yeah, David S. Lifton really knows how to <b>"address the evidence"</b> in the JFK case alright.<br />
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(I had no idea Mr. Lifton was a drinking man. But after reading <b><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160327060502/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=600ff9591675378e8b4f3e1dd0bde980&topic=8295.msg242686#msg242686">this post</a></b> of his--including the <b>Cronkite/"Hotstuff"/"Von Pain"</b> simulation, I have no choice but to think that his cupboard is brim full with empty Jack Daniels bottles. Gee, and I thought I had a lot of free time to write stuff on the Internet. Since joining Duncan MacRae's forum, Lifton's got everybody beat in the "free time" category, it would seem.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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So you see, DVP, this is the sort of thing you should be looking for, and when you find it, I do hope you will post it on your YouTube site. And you will go down in history, as having shown that all of the data about multiple coffins is just one big misunderstanding...you know, like the Lusitania.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Was your Walter Cronkite/Comedy Central routine supposed to offer some kind of PROOF that no other casket entries were made at Bethesda on the night of November 22, 1963, David? If so, I must have missed that "proof".<br />
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And didn't you say the other day (and perhaps even in your book, "Best Evidence") that you think perhaps a THIRD casket entry occurred at Bethesda that night? Care to go for four? <br />
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What was in the third (and fourth?) casket, David? Kennedy's brain? Luncheon snacks for Humes and Company? What?<br />
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Let's now again bask in the Pot/Kettle nature of this gem penned previously by one David S. Lifton on the west coast:<br />
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<b><i>"Your writing indicates you really do not function logically."</i></b> <br />
-- D. Lifton; <b><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160327060502/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=600ff9591675378e8b4f3e1dd0bde980&topic=8295.msg242686#msg242686">May 9, 2013</a></b><br />
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Now, after having read the above comment, can anyone even begin to <i>imagine</i> the gall and monster-sized gonads it would take for someone who claims that President Kennedy was not shot by <i><b>ANY BULLETS FROM BEHIND</i></b> to make the statement I just quoted above?<br />
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Absolutely mind-boggling.<br />
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BTW -- Does anybody wonder how David Lifton reconciles the Main Street curb damage and James Tague's slight cheek injury within a theory that has ALL of the shots coming from the FRONT of the President's car? (Not to mention the limo damage done to the windshield and the chrome strip.)<br />
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But, maybe Lifton can now backpedal a little bit and claim that a shot WAS fired from the rear, and that this "missed" shot hit Tague and the Main Street curb.<br />
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Or, maybe DSL thinks that the "real killers" on the Knoll were really wanting to kill <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/james-tague-part-1.html">James T. Tague</a> down by the Underpass. I like that theory myself. Maybe DSL can postulate that one sometime. Because you gotta wonder how any Grassy Knoll shooters could be such lousy shots as to hit Tague by the Underpass when they were supposedly aiming at Kennedy in the middle of Elm Street.<br />
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No worries, though -- David S. Lifton must certainly have a very good (and ultra-logical) theory to account for the Tague wounding, within his current theory of <b>"JFK & Connally Suffered No Injuries From Any Rear Gunmen"</b>.<br />
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Anyway, I think it's quite obvious by this time that Mr. Lifton belongs in the "Pot/Kettle" Hall-of-Fame (based on just the last quote I cited above--all by itself) -- right next to <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-complete-series.html">James DiEugenio</a>, also of Los Angeles. How fitting.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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<i>Best Evidence</i> makes the valid case that President Kennedy's body was covertly intercepted prior to autopsy, and the wounds altered.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160329193256/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=b588cf5a6705e376c97f3cef40dbb89b&topic=8505.msg248663#msg248663">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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Even though Mr. Lifton knows that a whole lot of people have said that such "covert interception" of President Kennedy's body was absolutely impossible.<br />
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1.) The body could not possibly have been "intercepted" (aka: stolen) off of Air Force One while at Love Field. There were too many people surrounding the casket at all times for such a pilfering of the body to have been successfully accomplished.<br />
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But David Lifton totally ignores this pivotal fact and, instead, tries to shoehorn this very important and vital event (the <i><b>physical stealing of the President's body</i></b>) into a timeline that even he (Mr. Lifton) knows full well is too tight for even his own comfort. That's probably why David has changed his view on this critical timing factor over the years [as demonstrated by the quote below] --- <br />
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<i>"About two years after 'Best Evidence' was published, I in fact realized there was a much more significant moment in time for getting the body out of the coffin, and that was the brief period when the coffin was already aboard the plane, and the entire Kennedy party was down on the tarmac. And today, that is when I think that event actually occurred. How they got the body off the plane is another matter."</i> <b>-- David S. Lifton; November 15, 1997</b><br />
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2.) There was simply not enough time for the alleged body alterations to have been performed on the President between the time JFK's body was loaded aboard AF1 and the time the body arrived at Bethesda at approximately 7:35 PM EST on November 22nd. Quoting Dr. Humes: <i><b>"The President's body was received at 25 minutes before 8."</b></i> [<a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh2/html/WC_Vol2_0179a.htm">2 H 349</a>]<br />
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And I don't <i>think</i> that David Lifton has added yet another hilarious element to his body-swiping theory as of this date--that being: a new theory that has JFK's body being altered WHILE IN FLIGHT, aboard some "covert" airplane or rocket ship that transported the body of the President and a team of body-altering surgeons from Dallas to Washington. But, maybe that's a theory that DSL should consider, because otherwise he's got no choice but to pretend that the covert body alterations were performed with lightning-like speed between the time the body arrived back in Washington (regardless of WHAT aircraft it might have been transported in) and the time when Dr. Humes and company opened up the casket at Bethesda at about 7:35 PM EST. <br />
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That would have given the covert body alterers approximately 90 minutes to alter all of the wounds AND transport the President's body to Bethesda. And, let's face it, the alleged body-altering surgeons didn't just cross their arms and blink their eyes like Barbara Eden in order to alter those wounds or to transport the President's body <b>the hundreds of miles it must have travelled</b> from Dallas, Texas, to Washington, D.C., on November 22, 1963.<br />
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Ninety minutes (at most) to perform the kind of surgery David Lifton advocates AND to get the altered body from Walter Reed (or wherever DSL thinks the alterations took place) to Bethesda. And it's really even less time than that, because the body had to go from SOME airport or Air Force base in the Washington area TO Walter Reed (or wherever) FIRST. So there's more time lost. Unless, as I said, the alterations were performed while in transit. And that's just flat-out silly. Isn't it, David L.?<br />
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And if I understand Mr. Lifton's timeline correctly, there's even far LESS time for any covert body-altering surgery to have been performed on JFK, because Lifton has the "shipping" casket (with JFK's altered body inside of it) arriving at the Bethesda morgue at about 6:35 PM EST (correct me if I'm wrong about this timing, DSL). Which makes the body-altering scenario even more laughable and impossible than it already is. This would give the body-altering doctors virtually no time at all to perform any surgery on the President, unless the plotters somehow were able to fly JFK back to Washington from Dallas at supersonic speed (or perhaps with the help of George Reeves or Christopher Reeve).<br />
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This timing problem is undoubtedly why <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/doug-horne-part-1.html">Douglas P. Horne</a> decided to "alter" David Lifton's original "body altering" theory, with Horne realizing that there was simply no way in Hades that all of this cloak-and-dagger hocus-pocus could have been accomplished in the amount of time that was available. So, Horne added a new (and equally as laughable) wrinkle to this whole silly farce by contending that <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CRURNCAGtHs/WA2TQ37sGdI/AAAAAAABKv4/me5QOBcT-DwnulegNz_lnPYRabFbNCNAgCLcB/s1600/Doug-Horne-Amazon-Post-12-19-2009.png">Dr. Humes <i>himself</i></a></b> performed the alterations to President Kennedy's body between about 6:35 PM and 7:35 PM EST.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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The Internet is read by people all over the world, and that's the only reason I'm spending time responding to your nonsense. Never did I say--ever--that the President's body was "altered while in flight." That is a total fiction. I never said that, nor do I believe it.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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David Lifton should learn how to read. Never once did I say that David Lifton believes that JFK's body was altered while in flight. Here's what I said (with emphasis now added for Lifton, who apparently cannot read at all):<br />
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<i>"And <b>I don't think</b> that David Lifton has added yet another hilarious element to his body-swiping theory as of this date--that being: a new theory that has JFK's body being altered WHILE IN FLIGHT, aboard some "covert" airplane or rocket ship that transported the body of the President and a team of body-altering surgeons from Dallas to Washington. <b>But, maybe that's a theory that DSL should consider</b>, because otherwise he's got no choice but to pretend that the covert body alterations were performed with lightning-like speed between the time the body arrived back in Washington (regardless of WHAT aircraft it might have been transported in) and the time when Dr. Humes and company opened up the casket at Bethesda at about 7:35 PM EST."</i> -- DVP<br />
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And, in fact, the very fact that David Lifton definitely does NOT believe that JFK's body was altered on the airplane (as I always knew he did NOT believe) is a big reason to know that his body alteration theory is nonsense from simply the TIME factor alone. Which is why I humorously suggested that DSL probably SHOULD add the "Altered In Flight" element to his crackpot theory--because without it, there's simply no time for the alterations to happen, especially via DSL's 6:35 PM casket entry.<br />
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And Lifton doesn't think Humes and Boswell altered the wounds, which means they must have been altered between 6:00 PM and 6:35 PM. And when allowing travel time from an airport in Washington to Bethesda, then how much actual "body altering" time was available to the covert surgeons on 11/22/63? Tell us, David, <b>WHEN</b> was the altering of the President's body done via your super-tight (and impossible) timeline? When? And where? In the hearse on the way to Bethesda perhaps?<br />
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You don't want to answer those perfectly logical and reasonable "timeline" questions--mainly because you cannot answer them in a reasonable manner. So you'll just ignore the impossibly tight timeline during which you say all of this stuff was done to President Kennedy's body.<br />
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Any casket that arrived at Bethesda Naval Hospital at 6:35 PM EST quite obviously <b>DID NOT</b> and <b>COULD NOT</b> have contained the body of John F. Kennedy. Any such 6:35 casket entry must have been associated with some other case entirely. Especially if it involved a plain "shipping casket". <br />
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Anyone with any common sense at all would be able to figure this out. But David Lifton has, instead, decided to believe in the most ridiculous scenario imaginable--one that has JFK's body being deliberately placed by conspirators into a casket that doesn't even begin to resemble the casket that the plotters took JFK out of. This gives new meaning to the term <b>"Brain Dead JFK Conspirators"</b>. And yet an obviously intelligent man named David S. Lifton swallows this crap whole. Remarkable.<br />
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[<b>DVP NOTE ---</b> A related discussion concerning the arrival time of JFK's body at Bethesda can be found <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1350.html">HERE</a></b>.]<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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I don't have the time to follow you around and do "clean-up" after you post your various false statements about what I believe, or have written.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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There's nothing you need to "clean up" at all. I didn't misstate a single one of your silly beliefs, David. And, in fact, I hit the "6:35 PM" timing smack on the nose in my previous post, even though I was relying only on memory for that bit of info, and even inviting you to correct me if I was wrong. Here's exactly what I said:<br />
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<i>"Lifton has the "shipping" casket (with JFK's altered body inside of it) arriving at the Bethesda morgue at about 6:35 PM EST (correct me if I'm wrong about this timing, DSL). Which makes the body-altering scenario even more laughable and impossible than it already is."</i> <b>-- DVP</b><br />
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So stop whining. Your "clean up" services aren't required at all. You just need to learn to read. For Pete sake, you even <b><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160329190956/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=b588cf5a6705e376c97f3cef40dbb89b&topic=8505.msg248668#msg248668">QUOTED me directly</a></b>, and yet you still got it wrong.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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The reason I have so little respect for what you do is your blatant misstatements of my own work...<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Again, I made no misstatements at all that I can see. I never said you think the body was altered in the air. Read my quote again. Maybe the following operative words will begin to sink in (as you hunt for a better pair of reading glasses):<br />
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<i>"I don't <b>think</b> that David Lifton has added yet another hilarious element to his body-swiping theory as of this date--that being: a new theory that has JFK's body being altered WHILE IN FLIGHT...but, <b>maybe that's a theory that DSL should consider</b>."</i><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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...and your rotten sneering attitude towards the evidence which clearly indicates that President Kennedy's body was altered prior to autopsy...<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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What reasonable and sensible person WOULDN'T sneer at such an insane theory? Even 99% of your fellow conspiracy theorists have tossed your foolish theories aside (including your equally silly <i>"No Shots Hit Any Victims From The Rear"</i> claptrap too, which is possibly even MORE ludicrous than your body alteration fairy tale).<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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...combined with the incredible hypocrisy you show by claiming you have some sort of great respect for the late President--which you clearly do not. Because if you did, you would care about who was responsible for his death.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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You've got a lot of gall to say that. I respect President Kennedy very much, and I always have. And I do care about finding out who killed him. And the evidence is screaming out the answer to anyone who will listen -- President Kennedy was murdered by your favorite "patsy", Lee Harvey Oswald -- and no one else.<br />
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So you can take that remark about my not having any "respect" for JFK and stuff it squarely up your rear quarters, because in my opinion, that particular comment was totally uncalled for (even for this type of JFK forum).<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Do you have a problem when it comes to telling the truth? Is misrepresenting what an author says in his book indigenous to your DNA? If not, then what is the problem?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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See my previous response. I misrepresented nothing. It's not my fault you can't read. (Is it?)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAUL MAY SAID:</span></b><br />
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DVP has given an excellent rebuttal to DSL's theory on body alteration. Simple, direct, specific in detail. There is so much evidence contrary to this theory that reasonable credible individuals can only shake their heads.<br />
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I believe most people who have followed this case, whether CT or LN, have or had a high regard for JFK. This is what makes the issue of his death so emotional. For DSL to accuse DVP of having no respect for JFK is insulting. While I believe DSL has promoted a theory right out of a Hollywood Sci Fi movie, I have no doubt he too respects JFK. <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">HANK SIENZANT SAID:</span></b><br />
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David [Lifton], your book makes it clear you think all the shooters were in front of the President. And therefore, in front of the Governor as well. It therefore follows from your own theory that the Governor's wounds MUST have been altered as well.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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And in addition to that hunk of nonsense about the Governor's wounds being altered (which we all know didn't happen, of course, since John B. Connally lived to tell his story to the American people after the shooting), it also means that somehow the conspirators who shot Connally only from the front got John Connally HIMSELF to lie about his wounds and what he felt when he was hit by the bullet.<br />
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Connally ALWAYS said that the bullet which hit him felt like a "balled-up fist" striking him a sharp blow IN THE BACK. He never wavered from that story his entire life.<br />
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So, apparently David Lifton must believe that either Governor Connally was part of the conspiracy and cover-up too, or that Connally was somehow innocently mistaken when he said that he was hit in the back, which would mean that the "balled-up fist" feeling that Connally felt in his back was really the EXIT point for a bullet that must have entered his chest and came out his upper back.<br />
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Anybody buying that one?<br />
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In short, David Lifton's theories fail miserably from EVERY single angle they are approached from. And to think that this guy still has supporters for this type of crackpottery. Geesh.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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The casket that arrived at 6:35 PM obviously contained the body of John F. Kennedy, <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES GORDON SAID:</span></b><br />
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David [Lifton],<br />
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Is such a timing realistic?<br />
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Doing a search on the internet, I see that the straight-line distance between [Andrews Air Force Base and Bethesda Naval Hospital] is 18 miles as the crow flies. However, traveling by car is 28 miles.<br />
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[William] Manchester states that the plane arrived at 6:05. From that time has to be added the time to off load and enter the cars and ambulance.<br />
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At best if you add 5 minutes, which is probably too short, to the change over, you then have 28 miles to drive in 25 minutes.<br />
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Does that seem realistic to you?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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And let's also remember, too, that according to David Lifton's theory, it's an ALREADY ALTERED BODY of John Kennedy that arrived at Bethesda at 6:35 PM EST.<br />
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Lifton doesn't think the "alterations" to JFK's body were performed at Bethesda, which means (unless Lifton has decided to crawl into bed with Doug Horne regarding WHERE the alleged body alterations were done) that the body had to be secretly removed from Air Force One by a team of conspirators at Andrews AFB (without a single person noticing this activity on the other side of the aircraft), and then the body had to travel to Walter Reed (or wherever) for the lickety-split wound alterations, and then after placing JFK into a casket that looks nothing like the expensive ornamental casket the plotters earlier removed JFK's body from (and also after putting JFK into a body bag, for some idiotic reason that only the bumbling plotters could possibly explain), they travel the XX miles to Bethesda. (How far is it from Walter Reed to Bethesda? I'm not sure and I really don't care, but David Lifton sure should.)<b>*</b><br />
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And all of the above is accomplished, per David Lifton (unless he's changed his theory in the last few years), in roughly 20 to 25 minutes.<br />
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Can anybody say -- No way, Jose?!<br />
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<b>*</b> EDIT -- Distances (per Vincent Bugliosi's book, "Reclaiming History", page 1063)---<br />
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Andrews Air Force Base to Walter Reed Hospital -- 13 miles (by air).<br />
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Walter Reed Hospital to Bethesda Naval Hospital -- 5 miles.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">REPLAY....</span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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The casket that arrived at 6:35 PM obviously contained the body of John F. Kennedy.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Impossible.<br />
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<i><b>"Lifton's scenario couldn't possibly be more insane."</i></b> -- Vincent T. Bugliosi; Page 1061 of "Reclaiming History"<br />
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Vince is right (as usual).<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES GORDON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Unlike some, I am not adverse to David's body alteration scenario. However, I did not find his argument about the helicopter very persuasive. I always felt it was never fully tied down.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Helicopter talk can be found in the <a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2012/03/cbs-tv.html">CBS-TV coverage</a>. No big secrets here. The helicopter that departed just before LBJ's chopper was taking members of the Kennedy party to the White House. [UPI correspondent Merriman Smith, in his 11/23/63 newspaper article recounting the events of November 22nd, makes mention of <b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/merriman-smith.html#Helicopter-Ride-To-The-White-House">"another 'copter bound for the White House lawn"</a></i></b>, on which Smith himself was a passenger.]<br />
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David Lifton, of course, thinks there was another chopper that must have departed a little earlier which contained the pilfered body of John Kennedy (see addendum below). But when Lifton's fantasy is discarded (as it must be by all sensible reasoned-thinking individuals), any and all helicopters that were standing by at Andrews AFB on 11/22 were no doubt there for reasons <i>other</i> than to swipe the President and whisk him to Walter Reed.<br />
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<b>ADDENDUM:</b><br />
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<i>"Through [Lifton's] compulsive effort, he comes up with a speck of evidence here and a speck there to support his earth-is-flat theory. For instance, he tells us, and I assume he's being truthful, that if one listens to the tape of CBS anchorman Harry Reasoner announcing the arrival of Air Force One at Andrews, <b>"it [is] difficult to hear [Reasoner] because, thundering in the background could be heard the turning rotor of a helicopter,"</b> the one, Lifton assures his reader, that took the president's body to Walter Reed hospital, where his phantom conspiracy surgeons performed the alterations. Assassination researcher Howard Platzman describes this tendency of the conspiracy theorists to stitch together bits and scraps of information to support their grand conclusions <b>"hyperperspicacity. Seeing very clearly what isn't there or what is innocently there. This special kind of seeing is what enabled me, at age 19, to discover 83 pieces of evidence in Beatles' music and paraphernalia pointing inescapably to the conclusion that Paul [McCartney] was dead."</b>"</i> -- Page 1063 of Vince Bugliosi's "Reclaiming History"<br />
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I'm not quite sure if Mr. Bugliosi has the correct CBS reporter when he quotes from David Lifton's book above, because Harry Reasoner's voice is never drowned out by anything during the CBS coverage of JFK's arrival at Andrews Air Force Base. <br />
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Reasoner hands off the coverage to CBS correspondent Charles Von Fremd, who was reporting live from Andrews. The loud noise of the jet engines on Air Force One do drown out Von Fremd's coverage to some degree for a short time, but I can't hear any helicopter rotors in the background. And even if there <i>are</i> the sounds of a helicopter in the background....so what? Any helicopter sounds can just as easily be explained by a helicopter LANDING at Andrews, instead of one TAKING OFF. The sound of the chopper's rotors would be about the same.<br />
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Just try to find any helicopter noise at all in the <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8UwZ588YcqINWxGVHFXWXQ1M3c">CBS videos</a></b>. I hear none. The only thing that comes close to "helicopter noise" at the operative time, IMO, occurs right after Reasoner hands off the coverage to Von Fremd at Andrews....but that's at a point when Air Force One is still taxiing. The Boeing 707 <i>hasn't even come to a stop yet!</i> Did the conspirators throw JFK's body into a waiting helicopter from the <i>moving jetliner</i> perhaps? Maybe a new theory has been born. :-)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Here is what James Sibert told me in 1990, fifteen years before the interview you quoted: <i>“Dave, I could swear on a stack of bibles that the doctor said there was surgery.”</i> That’s just a fact. That’s what he said in 1990.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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So what? Big deal. <br />
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Yes, Humes used the word "surgery". We know that. Nobody's claiming Sibert and O'Neill lied in their initial report when they said that Humes said <b><a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md44/html/Image3.htm">"apparent surgery of the head area"</a></b>. But the key is: WHY did Humes use that word? And James W. Sibert answered that "Why?" question for Vincent Bugliosi in 1999 (see below excerpt from Vince's book).<br />
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Plus -- Since we know that the word "surgery" did come out of James Humes' mouth at the autopsy on the night of 11/22/63, that very fact <i>and that fact <b>alone</b></i> drives a stake through the heart of Doug Horne's "alternate" body alteration theory. Horne thinks it was <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CRURNCAGtHs/WA2TQ37sGdI/AAAAAAABKv4/me5QOBcT-DwnulegNz_lnPYRabFbNCNAgCLcB/s1600/Doug-Horne-Amazon-Post-12-19-2009.png">HUMES HIMSELF</a></b> who performed the "surgery of the head area" on President Kennedy's body. And yet within seconds of the body being removed from the casket at Bethesda, Humes (the alleged body-alterer himself) blurts out the word "surgery" for everybody to hear in the autopsy room. Brilliant, huh?<br />
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So I guess Horne must think Humes WANTED the covert "surgery" to be discovered and PUT ON RECORD in the Sibert/O'Neill report. Either that, or Horne must think Dr. Humes was one really stupid SOB.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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And in my 1990 conversation, he [Sibert] said: <i>"that’s haunted me for years, this surgery of the head."</i><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Looks like he got <i>unhaunted</i> just nine years later when he told Vincent Bugliosi on September 22, 1999, the things we find printed on page 1060 of Bugliosi's book "Reclaiming History" (excerpted below). And Sibert said the exact same thing in <b><a href="http://app.box.com/s/v7pzrliv56">this audio interview</a></b> on June 30, 2005 (9 minutes into the interview). And also please take note of Sibert's description of the body wrappings in the book excerpt below -- <b>"wrapped in two sheets"</b>:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17752-the-forward-head-movement-an-illusion/?do=findComment&comment=226765">ALL THIS</a>.</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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To David Lifton,<br>
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Yes, I know you still believe in the impossible -- i.e., the "impossible" notion that (in a very brief period of time) President Kennedy's wounds were altered and/or rearranged in order to eliminate all evidence of supposed frontal gunshots (all without a <i>single</i> witness ever coming forward--in 47 years--to say that he or she witnessed any such covert surgery on the President of the United States).<br>
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And, yes, I know you still believe in the <i>Impossible #2</i> -- i.e., the incredibly silly notion that <b>ALL</b> of the shots in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63 came from a location (or locations) in <b>FRONT</b> of the President's vehicle.<br>
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I just happen to vigorously disagree with your interpretation of the evidence, Mr. Lifton. And I strongly disagree with your theories, DESPITE the opinions and observations of the several Parkland and Bethesda witnesses you interviewed on film in 1980.<br>
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You will say I'm <i>ignoring</i> those Parkland and Bethesda witnesses, such as Dennis David, Jerrol Custer, Paul O'Connor, Aubrey Rike, et al.<br>
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But, the truth is, I'd rather disagree with people like Paul <i>"No Brains In The Head"</i> O'Connor if the alternative option is to place a single ounce of faith in the outlandish theory that you, Mr. Lifton, have been peddling since 1966.<br>
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Can I ask you a straightforward question, Mr. Lifton?<br>
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Do you <b>REALLY</b> and <b>TRULY</b> believe that such "body alteration" on the President's head <i>could</i> have been accomplished in such a short period of time on the evening of 11/22/63? Could such perfect head-altering surgery have been performed so that <b>ALL THREE</b> of JFK's autopsy surgeons at the Bethesda autopsy were totally fooled by the covert surgery?<br>
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Do you <i>really and truly</i>, deep down, today, believe such amazing behind-the-scenes patchwork surgery on JFK's head/body could have resulted in the autopsy report we now find on <b><a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0281b.htm">Pages 538-546 of the Warren Commission Report</a></b>?<br>
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I'm virtually certain what your answer will be to my last question, but I thought I'd ask it anyway (for the record).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17752-the-forward-head-movement-an-illusion/?do=findComment&comment=227132">THIS</a>.</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Funny, isn't it, Mr. Lifton, that the HSCA and the Warren Commission and the Rockefeller Commission and the Clark Panel "ignored" the very same evidence that has led you down the "body alteration" path?<br>
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Now, who should I go with -- the FOUR above-mentioned official Government panels who were assigned the task of looking at the JFK murder case (or various peripheral aspects of it at least)?<br>
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Or should I go with David S. Lifton, a person who thinks that all the shots came from the FRONT of JFK in Dealey Plaza, and who also thinks the President's body was altered with lightning-like swiftness and efficiency, even though the stealing of JFK's body was literally impossible to do, given the timeframe and the witnesses surrounding the alleged "interception" of the body?<br>
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Call me goofy -- but that's not really a very tough choice, DSL.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17752-the-forward-head-movement-an-illusion/?do=findComment&comment=227205">THIS</a>.</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Bull. The Warren Commission and all the rest had the same data and the same witnesses you have had since you started your absurd body-alteration odyssey in 1966.<br>
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They knew about the contradictory statements made by the Parkland and Bethesda witnesses (even the Warren Commission back in '64).<b>*</b> They just had a little more common sense than some authors had when it comes to alleging things that the WC, et al, knew were simply <i>impossible occurrences from the get-go</i> -- such as stealing the President's body and whisking it away to Walter Reed without a single non-conspirator noticing. That type of activity just could not have happened.<br>
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Therefore, there <b>IS</b> another explanation to explain the contradictory witness statements. Your explanation is the most <i>extraordinary</i> (I think even you, yourself, DSL, will agree with that). While all other explanations are far less extraordinary.<br>
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<b>*</b> Just one example of the WC knowing about the contradictory witnesses is this WC testimony supplied by Dr. Robert McClellend:<br>
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<b>DR. McCLELLAND --</b> <i>"The initial impression that we had was that perhaps the wound in the neck, the anterior part of the neck, was an entrance wound and that it had perhaps taken a trajectory off the anterior vertebral body and again into the skull itself, exiting out the back, to produce the massive injury in the head."</i><br>
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Haven't you ever asked yourself this one very pertinent question when assembling your body-altering theory, Mr. Lifton?:<br>
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Why on Earth would any conspirators have even <b>WANTED</b> to do things the way you think they did them on 11/22/63 -- i.e., having to steal the body of the victim so that they can rearrange the wounds?<br>
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In other words, haven't you ever wondered why these goofy and overworked plotters didn't just <i>SHOOT JFK FROM THE REAR TO BEGIN WITH</i>, in order to avoid all the cloak-and-dagger hocus-pocus that you say was required of them later in the day?<br>
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If that basic, fundamental question about the plot to murder the President hasn't crossed your mind since 1966, I have to wonder why it hasn't.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17752-the-forward-head-movement-an-illusion/?do=findComment&comment=226776">May 28—June 1, 2011</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Oh pleez...I'm really sick and tired of seeing Dale Myers quoted "in defense of" Vincent Bugliosi. Dale Myers was a paid ghost writer for Bugliosi's book "Reclaiming History." Hundreds and hundreds of pages were written/rewritten by Myers.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17411-discussing-the-mindset-of-conspiracy-theorists/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-220401">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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I have a very strong feeling that Mr. David S. Lifton doesn't know what the hell he's babbling about here.<br />
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Vincent Bugliosi gave full credit to Dale K. Myers for Dale's writing contributions in the "Acknowledgments" section of "Reclaiming History". So that eliminates Mr. Myers as a "ghostwriter" right there, because ghostwriters are NOT ACKNOWLEDGED AT ALL in the book that they are helping to "ghostwrite".<br />
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And why on Earth David Lifton has it etched in his mind that Dale Myers wrote (or rewrote) "hundreds and hundreds of pages" of "Reclaiming History" (or even whole chapters, as Lifton has practically alluded to in the past as well) is a real mystery to me.<br />
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Myers HELPED Bugliosi write PORTIONS of "Reclaiming History" (just as the late Fred Haines did), and Vince has acknowledged that fact IN PRINT right inside the book itself, but I'm at a loss to comprehend just exactly why Lifton believes that Myers wrote practically all of Chapter 1 ("Four Days In November").<br />
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Here is exactly what Vincent Bugliosi says on this matter, on Page 1515 of "Reclaiming History":<br />
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<i>"Dale [Myers] helped me in the writing of several sections of Book One [i.e., the first two-thirds of "Reclaiming History"], most notably on acoustics, 'Four Days in November' [Chapter 1 of the book] (particularly in the Oswald interrogations), and all matters dealing with still photography. I am deeply grateful to Dale for lending his time, energy, and considerable expertise to this literary project."</i> <br />
<b>-- Vincent Bugliosi</b><br />
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And we can also know that Lifton is full of crap about his alleged "ghostwriting" allegation by taking another look at the following comment made by Bugliosi's personal secretary, Rosemary Newton:<br />
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<i>"In response to David Lifton's outrageous, malicious and contemptible lie regarding Vincent Bugliosi's book...where he claims ghost writers wrote this great book (which will be read by generations to come, long after Mr. Lifton and the rest of us are gone, including all the die-hard conspiracy theorists)...I say, unequivocally, that NO section of Mr. Bugliosi's book was ghostwritten."</i> <br />
<b>-- Rosemary Newton; <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/ghostwriting.html#Rosemary-Newton">July 5, 2007</a></b><br />
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Another reason, of course, to seriously doubt Lifton's claims about Dale Myers is to re-examine the very same allegation that Lifton made against author Patricia Lambert [which I alluded to earlier in this blog post]. In 2007, Lifton came right out and made the bold and ludicrous claim that Pat Lambert had written virtually ALL of the "Jim Garrison/Oliver Stone" chapter in "Reclaiming History".<br />
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Well, within a few weeks of Lifton's allegation, Ms. Lambert put that issue to rest for all time (but I suppose Lifton thinks Lambert was lying her ass off when she said this):<br />
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<i>"For the record: I did not write one single word of Vince Bugliosi's book, not even a footnote. I never saw Vince Bugliosi's manuscript. I never saw any portion of Vince Bugliosi's manuscript. I didn't even get a peek at the galleys. No comma, colon, semi-colon, parenthesis, hyphen, apostrophe or period is my doing, to say nothing of sentences, paragraphs and a whole chapter. .... I have indeed been in touch with Bugliosi; we have talked on the telephone and I provided him with some documents. That is the full extent of my involvement in his book. I cannot imagine what prompted Lifton to make such a stunningly false allegation about me. But false it is. I am not a ghostwriter. I have never been a ghostwriter. I have no intention of being a ghostwriter. Since I know unequivocally that Lifton is wrong about the role he assigned to me, I see no reason to believe he is correct about the other unidentified writers on whom he has bestowed the credit for having written Vince Bugliosi's book. David Lifton owes me an apology. David Lifton owes Vince Bugliosi an apology."</i> <b>-- Patricia Lambert; <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/vZEBWAogZc4/PA8GAw1LA4QJ">July 2, 2007</a></b><br />
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Therefore, since we KNOW beyond all doubt that David Lifton was 100% dead wrong about his ghostwriting allegations that he levelled against Pat Lambert, why in the world would anyone put any stock or faith in ANYTHING ELSE this man named Lifton has to say about the SAME TOPIC of "Reclaiming History" being ghostwritten by various individuals? That's nutty.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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There are two signed contracts (at least) between Myers and Bugliosi and/or his publisher. The first contract was when Myers first hired onto the project. The second contract (or contracts) occurred when Myers and Bugliosi found they couldn't get along with one another ("creative differences" is the Hollywood term) and so a legal "divorce" had to be arranged.<br />
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Both contracts included provisions that Dale Myers could not talk about the role he played--in other words, complete "confidentiality" was a part of the legal arrangement--both in the case of the original "marriage" and then the "divorce."<br />
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Again, I repeat: it's absurd to be citing Dale Myers "in defense of Bugliosi" since he (Myers) wrote such a substantial portion of both "Reclaiming History," and of [the 2008 follow-up paperback volume] "Four Days in November."<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I'll let Dale Myers speak for himself on this. Naturally, Mr. Lifton won't believe a word uttered by Mr. Myers, but I'll pass these quotes along anyway--just "for the record":<br />
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<i>"Lifton is questioning Bugliosi's credibility? Isn't Lifton the guy that claimed at one time that snipers were firing from inside artificial trees that had been installed and removed from the grassy knoll by crane? .... Lifton's problem is not Bugliosi's book or the secret gaggle of authors who supposedly wrote the master's work for him. David Lifton's problem is himself. As long as he continues to haunt the fringes of rational thought we can expect to be entertained with more ridiculous and unfounded accusations."</i> <b>-- Dale K. Myers; <a href="http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2007/07/liftons-ghost.html">July 5, 2007</a></b><br />
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<i>"As to Mr. Lifton's 'ghostwriting' allegations regarding Vincent Bugliosi's book...charges and assertions without support don't mean much to me. I note that in the year since Mr. Bugliosi's secretary Rosemary Newton challenged Lifton...that Mr. Lifton failed to grab what would apparently be (according to Lifton's 'ghostwriting' claims) an easy $100 grand, and instead continues to trash-talk Mr. Bugliosi's book. Seems to me there would be an easy way to settle all of this - Why doesn't Lifton simply post the contracts for all of Mr. Bugliosi's 'ghostwriters' which he claims to be privy to? I know the idea of some kind of evidentiary support for an allegation is a novel idea to most conspiracy theorists, but come on! .... Extraordinary charges require extraordinary proof, yes? As to your question: "Do you then categorically deny that any such relationship existed between yourself and Vince Bugliosi?", perhaps you [a person named "Duke", to whom Myers was talking to here] missed Mr. Bugliosi's acknowledgements on page 1515 of 'Reclaiming History'?"</i> <b>-- Dale K. Myers; <a href="http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2007/07/liftons-ghost.html?showComment=1210183920000#c5538415224819386906">May 7, 2008</a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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DVP: do yourself and others on this forum a favor, and "get real."<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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This is hilarious.<br />
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Just imagine, folks, David <i>"JFK'S BODY WAS STOLEN OFF OF AIR FORCE ONE"</i> Lifton is telling another person to <b>"get real"</b>. The irony and pot/kettle nature of that statement is so thick you could slice it with a knife.<br />
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In reality, David, I got "real" a long time ago. In fact, it was a short time after being exposed to your book of total fantasy (<b><a href="http://Best-Evidence.blogspot.com">"Best Evidence"</a></b>) in 1981 that I started to get <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/dvp-interview-about-television-and-jfk.html">more and more interested</a></b> in the JFK assassination.<br />
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And after looking into the REAL EVIDENCE in the case (vs. Mr. Lifton's impossible-to-pull-off fantasy version of it), I soon began to realize that President Kennedy was shot only from <i><b>BEHIND</b></i>, and the person who shot him was most certainly a man named Lee Harvey Oswald.<br />
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But thanks for today's laugh-fest, David. I enjoyed it.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID:</span></b><br />
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You know dang well that Lifton acknowledges he was wrong about Lambert.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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When did he ever do that, Pat? I sure don't recall ever hearing his retraction re Lambert.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID:</span></b><br />
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Bugliosi...praises Lifton's research abilities.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Yeah, I know. And Vince was way too kind to Lifton when it comes to David's "research", too. Because anyone who believes that ALL of the shots came from the front, with ZERO shots coming from the TSBD or anywhere to the rear of JFK's limousine, doesn't deserve even the slightest bit of praise, IMO. What type of serious "research" could <i>possibly</i> make any JFK researcher come to such a totally absurd conclusion re the location of all of the gunshots? It's too crazy to even discuss.<br />
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The "All Shots Came From The Front" silliness is probably even more ridiculous than Lifton's "body alteration" tripe.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">WILLIAM KELLY SAID:</span></b><br />
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How can you deny it, if Bugliosi ACKNOWLEDGES the contributions of his ghost writers?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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If Myers is ACKNOWLEDGED as a co-writer of the book, then he is not a "ghostwriter". Simple as that. (And I've quoted the relevant excerpt from Page 1515 of "Reclaiming History" myself, to illustrate the silly point of referring to Dale K. Myers as a "ghostwriter".)<br />
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And my guess is that David Lifton doesn't have a clue as to the number of pages that Myers HELPED Bugliosi write. Lifton is merely picking numbers out of a hat (i.e., "hundreds and hundreds"). And the same goes for Fred Haines' writing contribution, which Bugliosi says in the book was a "smaller" writing effort when compared to Myers'.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17411-discussing-the-mindset-of-conspiracy-theorists/page/5/?tab=comments#comment-220710">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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You surprise me, DVP. Somewhere on this forum, you have actually asked an interesting question:<br />
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"Gee" (you seemed to have wondered). . . "How can these conspiracy theorists believe that it was planned in advance to set up Oswald, as the fall guy, and yet ALSO believe JFK was shot from the front?"<br />
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Of course, the answer is to be found in Best Evidence, published in January, 1981: Specifically, it was planned, in advance, and as part of the crime, to falsify the autopsy findings. <br />
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You also might wish to reference Chapter 14, of Best Evidence, which you said you read when you were in your early 20s, and which you said got you interested in this case. How nice. But perhaps have forgotten by now. Anyway, that's what "trajectory reversal" is/was all about. The ability to shoot the President from one direction, but create the false appearance that the shots came from another.<br />
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Also, if you read my book--and specifically that same chapter 14--you will find that I certainly do not deny that the very effective appearance was created, on Dealey Plaza that day, that shots (if not "all the shots") were fired from the TSBD. Again, that's an appearance, and I never denied that. It's all spelled out, chapter and verse, in my book, right there in chapter 14.<br />
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As I make very clear--this false appearance (centered on the so-called "sniper's nest" found at the sixth floor of the TSBD)--was part of a strategic deception, employed in connection with the assassination of President Kennedy. The purpose of the strategic deception was to make it appear, both in real time, and in the evidence, that JFK's assassination was a quirk of fate, a historical accident, by attributing sole guilt to Lee Oswald, the pro-Castro Marxist who had once lived in Russia for over 2-1/2 years.<br />
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Why don't you go and read some books about strategic deception--and how such plans are often used, in war, as an integral part of any military operation. (Or do you think soldiers always march forward, in full battle dress, and then stand up and yell, before firing at the target, "You hoooo! Hey you! Look at me! I'm over here!" And then: "Bang...you're dead!")<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Oh, my poor, poor weak bladder!<br />
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So, David, the mentally retarded conspirators who planned President Kennedy's assassination well in advance knew from the GET-GO that they were going to have to fake all kinds of evidence (including the alteration of the "best evidence" in the case--JFK's very own body). Correct?<br />
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So, instead of merely firing the shots FROM THE PLACE WHERE THE "PATSY" WAS LOCATED, the goofball assassins of JFK decided it would be much, much better to try and frame Oswald by shooting ONLY from the Grassy Knoll (or various other FRONTAL-ONLY locations). Is that correct, DSL?<br />
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You're hilarious, David (in the comedic way).<br />
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But why do things the simple way (i.e., shoot Kennedy from the "patsy's" window and using the patsy's gun), when you could do it via an impossible-to-pull-off and ultra-complicated (not to mention, NEEDLESS and totally RECKLESS) "trajectory reversal" way by shooting the President from the exact OPPOSITE direction from where your fall guy is situated. Right, David?<br />
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And, just think, this is the kind of topsy-turvy, backward, illogical thinking we are treated to--year after year--by the JFK conspiracy theorists.<br />
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IOW--in a CTer's world, the following rule is king:<br />
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<i><b>Since ALL of the evidence positively indicates that Lee Harvey Oswald was solely responsible for the deaths of BOTH John Kennedy and J.D. Tippit, it really means that THE EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE, and Oswald was completely innocent of BOTH murders.</b></i><br />
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Try and get a jury to accept the above philosophy (which is the EXACT philosophy that a lot of online conspiracy theorists are currently clinging to).<br />
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Here's a simple (and logical) question for David Lifton:<br />
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Why not just shoot Kennedy from the Book Depository and forget about all the cloak-and-dagger junk of altering the President's body...AND altering all of the photos and films and X-rays, etc.?<br />
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Were the plotters TRYING to concoct the most senseless and ridiculous and complicated assassination scenario ever devised by man?<br />
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Just asking.<br />
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And, btw, is there even ONE other conspiracy believer on this Education Forum website who believes in David Lifton's "No Shots Came From The Rear" scenario?<br />
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If even ONE other CTer answers "Yes" to my last question, my bladder will burst wide open.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/17411-discussing-the-mindset-of-conspiracy-theorists/&page=6#comment-220835">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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DVP,<br>
<br>
Regarding your question of why not shoot JFK with a Carcano rifle from the TSBD, and all other related queries:<br>
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You really don’t “get it”—and if this post of yours reflects Mr. Bugliosi’s views (and I wouldn’t be surprised if it did), then apparently he doesn’t “get it” either.<br>
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I’m sorry to see that, because it tells me that after all these years, you (and your mentor, Mr. Bugliosi) haven’t advanced very far in terms of a basic understanding of what Dallas was all about.<br>
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What you don’t seem to understand is that the purpose of the Kennedy assassination was not just to kill the President (i.e., to cause his death) but to kill the man AND to get away with it.<br>
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For that reason, a plan for cover-up had to be included as part of the crime.<br>
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That’s responding to your post in very elementary language. Using more abstract vocabulary: to achieve that goal, i.e., “get away with it,” a plan for strategic deception had to be devised, and was, included as part of the crime.<br>
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Finally, elevating the language one more notch, let’s put it this way: the plot to kill President Kennedy was not simply a plan to cause the death of a single individual—rather, it was a plan to do that, but, in addition, to disguise the facts of the murder sufficiently so as to facilitate a legal transfer of power in the U.S. Government from Kennedy to Johnson.<br>
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[...]<br>
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The way it was planned to accomplish this was to create the (false) appearance—both in real time (i.e., at the time of Kennedy’s shooting) but also in the evidence that would come before any future inquiry, that President Kennedy’s assassination was a quirk of fate, the chance coming together of the President, riding in a motorcade, and a maladjusted person—in this case, a pro-Castro Marxist—who took advantage of a target of opportunity.<br>
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In other words, the Kennedy assassination was deliberately designed to look like an accident of history.<br>
<br>
That was the plan, the blueprint, of those who took Kennedy’s life. Of course, I’m well aware of Oswald’s brief sojourn to Mexico City, but all of that is filigree. The primary design was to create the appearance that the assassination “happened by accident.”<br>
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And the shooting was actually orchestrated so as to make it look that way, to appear that way “in real time.” That’s the way it actually “appeared to have happened,” in real time, and that’s the way the legal record looks—if (and I stress “if”) not examined too closely.<br>
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If you can’t understand that, if your response is to chortle, if you truly think Dallas was just an ordinary homicide—i.e., the equivalent of a Charlie Manson run amok on Dealey Plaza (with a rifle, rather than a butcher knife)—then (as my late father would have said) you have bats in your belfry.<br>
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[...]<br>
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You might want to pick up and reread those sections of <i>"Best Evidence"</i> which deal with the design of the sophisticated strategic deception which, I believe, was used in conjunction with the Kennedy assassination, in order to hide the true source of the shots, and point a false evidentiary vector in the direction of the so-called “sniper’s nest” (of which I gather Mr. Bugliosi is so fond).<br>
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With regard to this rather sophisticated strategic deception:<br>
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FYI: That is what Chapter 14, titled “Trajectory Reversal” is all about. It is not titled “Strategic Deception.” Rather, it is titled “Trajectory Reversal: Blueprint for Deception” and I have no doubt it will stand the test of time.<br>
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Long after Mr. Bugliosi's tome is viewed as an anachronism, the last hurrah of someone trying to defend the “Oswald-did-it-all-by-himself” thesis, “Trajectory Reversal” will be properly viewed (i.e., ultimately recognized) as the genuine blueprint for a strategic deception utilized in connection with the Dallas shooting, and the best description of what actually happened. (Which it is.)<br>
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It is why the media reported one thing, whereas the President’s body provided evidence of something quite different.<br>
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[...]<br>
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As for who thinks Kennedy was shot from the front, and who from the back, let me bring you back to November and December, 1963, and point out that if you go back to the newspapers, you will find that the Dallas doctors did not know that Kennedy had any rear entry wounds on the rear of his body on Friday night, Nov. 22, 1963. When the body left the hospital, they thought—all of them—that Kennedy was shot from the front.<br>
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That’s just a fact.<br>
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Let me assure you that as Malcolm Perry put his head on the pillow on Friday night, he thought Kennedy was shot from the front. Not from the back. Just from the front. And so did Dr. Carrico. And so did Dr. Jones. And so did Dr. Peters. And Dr. McClelland. Believe me, I know. I’ve studied the records, and interviewed them---back in 1966. (Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to interview their wives...so no, I don’t have a transcript of their pillow talk.)<br>
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[...]<br>
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Re “Cloak and Dagger”....<br>
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Now as to your question, <i>“Why not just shoot Kennedy from the TSBD and forget about all the cloak-&-dagger junk of altering the President's body?”</i> –– to even pose such a question again drives home the point that you don’t understand what happened on November 22, 1963.<br>
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As I said at the outset, this was NOT a simple murder. What you call the “cloak and dagger junk” is about the apparatus of a disguise, all of it necessary to disguise a political murder, as a quirk of fate. Hiding snipers on Dealey Plaza, picking off the president like a deer walking through the park, and then blaming the death on a supposed Marxist working in a nearby building. None of that can happen without utilizing certain tradecraft, which you brush aside when you disaragingly employ the term “cloak and dagger stuff.”<br>
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Then you write: <i>“Were the plotters trying to concoct the most senseless and ridiculous and complicated assassination scenario ever devised by man?”</i> Not at all. They were simply trying to get away with a serious political murder, utilizing a serious strategic deception in connection with the crime, to cover their tracks. In posing the question you do, you reveal a sophomoric approach to reality, as well as to your own country's history. Apparently, you subscribe to what is called “American exceptionalism”—that no such thing could have occurred in this country.<br>
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But the evidence proves you wrong.<br>
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[...]<br>
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Mr. Bugliosi—unfortunately—cannot distinguish the false from the real. And so he arrogantly promotes his ignorance as insight. He confuses facts with artifacts, and insists that the cover story utilized by a group of treasonous plotters represents the reality of Dallas. As I have previously stated, I think his limited vision is possibly hindered by the result of his inability to get past his law school education, and his "Joe Friday" (per Dragnet) state of mind.<br>
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[...]<br>
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In many ways, the JFK researchers are involved in deconstructing a disguise. Mr. Bugliosi is involved in the opposite; much of his work largely comes down to resurrecting a largely discredited cover story.<br>
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Most assuredly, it will not stand the test of time. It is a fruitless attempt to put lipstick on a corpse.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I'd like to believe that your <b><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/17411-discussing-the-mindset-of-conspiracy-theorists/&page=6#comment-220835">latest post on March 6, 2011</a></b>, is a joke, but, alas, I'm quite sure it is not and that you were dead serious about all of the pure hogwash and fantasy-filled speculation you have uttered in that post.<br />
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As I have said in previous posts at a different forum, Vincent Bugliosi was way, WAY too kind to David S. Lifton in "Reclaiming History":<br />
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<i>"IMO, Vince is far too kind to Mr. Lifton and his "research abilities" (especially when we consider the insane theory that was spawned and endorsed by Lifton via his "research"). VB must have been in a super-good mood the day he wrote the nice things that he penned in his book about Mr. Lifton. But Bugliosi also gets down to the bottom-line brass tacks of the matter when he makes these statements about David L.: <b>"...One could safely say that David Lifton took folly to an unprecedented level. And considering the monumental foolishness of his colleagues in the conspiracy community, that's saying something."</b>"</i> <b>-- DVP; <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/NfvTshPvTYY/ldwcJEKQrBYJ">April 21, 2008</a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">REPLAY....</span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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The purpose of the Kennedy assassination was not just to kill the President...but to kill the man AND to get away with it.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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So the plotters did everything in their power to complicate the shooting and the plot to the Nth degree to make sure it would be virtually IMPOSSIBLE for the <b>"All Shots Came From The Front"</b> plot to stay a secret.<br />
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Ya gotta love the backward logic of David S. Lifton.<br />
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In addition....<br />
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The following hunk of logic never occurs to the conspiracy theorists who want to believe that everything connected to Oswald's rifle and revolver purchases is phony and fake:<br />
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If the whole rifle transaction was phony from the get-go, then why wouldn't the plotters who cooked up the scheme have made sure that the rifle's length MATCHED the ad from the magazine from which it was ordered?<br />
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In a truly "fake" and made-up-from-whole-cloth scenario regarding the rifle, would the conspirators have wanted to have a mis-match of rifle lengths so that the conspiracy mongers could now say what they are saying today? -- i.e., <i><b>"Look! The C2766 rifle is the wrong length!"</i></b><br />
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This is just one more example (among dozens) of the built-in idiocy of the so-called "patsy framers" in this case. Everything is supposedly "manufactured" and planted ALL THROUGHOUT THE CASE to make it look as though Oswald did certain things and bought certain things and shot certain people -- but the retarded plotters apparently didn't know their asses from the hole in JFK's cranium.<br />
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E.G.,<br />
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1.) The brainless plotters couldn't tell "36 inches" from "40 inches".<br />
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2.) They plant a "Mauser" in the Depository (even though the patsy owned a Carcano).<br />
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3.) They shoot JFK from the front (even though their one and only patsy was located in the rear).<br />
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4.) They allow their one and only patsy to wander around on the lower floors of the Book Depository at the precise time they need him upstairs on the sixth floor shooting at the 35th U.S. President. (Brilliant planning and organizing here on the plotters' behalf!)<br />
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5.) They plant a bullet shell in the Sniper's Nest that could not possibly (per the conspiracy fantasists) have been fired on the day of the assassination, due to the dented lip. And yet the retard plotters evidently expected this "impossible" shell to go unnoticed by everyone in officialdom.<br />
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6.) They shoot J.D. Tippit with an AUTOMATIC gun (again, per the outer-fringe CTers who will do and say anything to try and exonerate cop-killer Oswald)....even though their patsy owns a revolver and not an automatic.<br />
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7.) And, according to some CTers, they place into evidence a Smith & Wesson revolver (#V510210) that could not possibly have been fired on 11/22/63, due to a bad/broken firing pin. And yet, at the same time, these same plotters (with a combined I.Q. of a Hostess cupcake) are attempting to make it look like Oswald DID, in fact, use that IMPOSSIBLE-TO-FIRE gun to kill Officer Tippit by placing into evidence four phony bullet shells from Revolver V510210.<br />
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A brilliant patsy plot all the way around, wasn't it? (Well, maybe if the plotters were Gomer and Goober Pyle.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/pHogv5e6sCw/j0ICP_lf7bUJ">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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If he [Vincent Bugliosi] wants to write about the JFK case, he should stick to the facts.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Can David Lifton REALLY not see the astounding hypocrisy that resides within the above statement. .... Absolutely incredible. (But hilarious.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID (IN AN E-MAIL TO <br />
SOMEONE ELSE IN JULY 2011):</span></b><br />
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It seems to me that, when it comes to the Newmans, DVP is just a flat out liar. (Would you not agree?)<br />
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FYI: In November, 1971, I was in Dallas and spent an evening with the Newmans--both of them. I had a SONY tape recorder. There was no question in their minds that the shots came from "above and behind" them--and by that they were talking about the area directly behind where they were standing, just as they indicated in their original interviews.<br />
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Guys like DVP are committed to a false reality, and will bend the English language to support their misconception.<br />
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I really do believe he's just a garden variety liar.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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David Lifton,<br />
<br />
I take offense at being labelled a "garden variety liar" by you. When it comes to people who are "committed to a false reality" in the JFK case, it's certainly not me who falls into that category. It's you.<br />
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As for <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/11/bill-and-gayle-newman.html">Bill and Gayle Newman</a>, just take a look at the Bronson slide [below]. At the time of the head shot, what location is "directly behind" the Newman family?<br />
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Answer: the pergola/peristyle area -- NOT the famous Grassy Knoll/picket fence shooting location that you conspiracy kooks love so well:<br />
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<a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/TO9FedxO-jI/AAAAAAAAHDA/ce0zVWhjdKY/s1600/Bronson%2BSlide.jpg"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/TO9FedxO-jI/AAAAAAAAHDA/ce0zVWhjdKY/s530/Bronson%2BSlide.jpg"></a><br />
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<br />
William Newman is on record (within 25 minutes of the assassination) saying on WFAA-TV that he thought there were TWO shots, with both of those shots coming from the direction of the "mall" or "garden" behind him, which is not the picket fence area (like it or not). Let's listen:<br />
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And Mr. Newman is even more specific in his <a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8CvW7GiJpHo/Tvw_ezDpg6I/AAAAAAAAByo/Nwr7F0ifXvI/s1200-h/William-Newman-Affidavit.gif">11/22/63 affidavit</a>, when he said: <br />
<b>"I thought the shot had come from the garden directly behind me"</b>. And there's no doubt that when he said "shot", he was referring to the HEAD SHOT, and Newman even confirms that fact in his <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_YygHvgJjo6T2NfWlRHR1hMN1U/view">2003 interview</a> at the Sixth Floor Museum.<br />
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And during that 2003 interview, Newman goes into even more detail about his observations (<a href="http://www.c-span.org/video/?287932-101/kennedy-assassination-bill-gayle-newman-part-2">Part 2, at the 6:20 mark</a>), when Bill says that his opinion about the direction from which the head shot came was derived more from the <b>"visual impact that it had on me more so than the noise"</b>.<br />
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Newman saw the right side of the President's head explode, and he immediately interpreted that VISUAL experience (incorrectly) as a bullet that struck JFK in the right-front (temple) area of his head. And Newman explicitly says that very thing in his 2003 interview.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">RETURNING TO A PREVIOUS QUOTE....</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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I do not understand how today, people can return to these accounts and reasonably claim that this or that doctor did not see what he said he did. The notion that this is what the President's head looked like, at Bethesda, is--as far as I'm concerned--not just unlikely. It's simply absurd.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Question:<br />
<br />
If David Lifton's theory is correct and President Kennedy's head wounds were altered and rearranged to make it look like the President had been shot only from the rear....then how would it have even been possible for a Bethesda witness like Paul O'Connor (et al) to have seen a large gaping hole in the back (occipital) part of JFK's head during the autopsy?<br />
<br />
I mean, if O'Connor is RIGHT, then there must not have been ANY "head-altering surgery" performed on the President's head at all, right? Because if there had been the type of wound-altering surgery that Lifton says did occur PRIOR to the Bethesda autopsy, then the big "hole" in the back of Kennedy's head would not have even existed as of 8:00 PM EST on 11/22/63 when the autopsy began. Correct?<br />
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It seems to me that the "body alterationists" like David Lifton and Doug Horne want to have their cake and eat it too -- i.e., they want ALL of the "big hole in the back of the head" witnesses to be 100% correct (<i>including</i> the Bethesda "BOH" witnesses) and they also want the President's wounds to have been completely altered somewhere between Parkland and Bethesda. But how can the Bethesda "BOH" witnesses be correct if the covert body-altering surgeons at Walter Reed did their job properly and, in effect, <b>eliminated the great-big hole in the back of JFK's cranium</b>?<br />
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For Pete sake, what was the purpose of stealing JFK's corpse and whisking it away to the <i>"Emergency Covert Body-Altering"</i> section of the Conspiracy BatCave at Walter Reed if the end result is going to <b>still</b> be people like Paul K. O'Connor seeing a great-big hole in the back of JFK's head at the autopsy? Kind of a waste of time at Walter Reed, wasn't it?<br />
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Food for body-altering thought....isn't it David S. Lifton?<br />
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<a name="Merriman-Smith"></a><b><span style="font-size: large;">AFTER LISTENING TO <a href="https://app.box.com/s/ga932flicq70ghpcco3r">THIS 2014 RADIO INTERVIEW</a> WITH DAVID LIFTON, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Mr. Lifton has now added <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/merriman-smith.html">Merriman Smith</a> of United Press International to his list of plotters and cover-up operatives. In <a href="https://app.box.com/s/wxnvdv38kfskz2f6gqgd"><b>this March 11, 2014, audio excerpt</b></a>, Lifton says that he believes Smith had <b>"foreknowledge"</b> of a plot to murder President Kennedy in Dallas on November 22, 1963.<br />
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How about that, folks? Because of Merriman Smith's initial UPI wireservice bulletin stating that "three shots" had been fired at the President's motorcade, which is a bulletin that went out over all the UPI wires in the country at 12:34 PM CST on 11/22/63, just four minutes after the assassination, David Lifton thinks Smith had "foreknowledge" of a plan to kill JFK.<br />
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Which, by extrapolation, would mean that Lifton must also believe that <i>all</i> of the other witnesses who immediately reported "three shots" being fired at the President's car <i>also</i> had foreknowledge of a plot brewing in Dallas that day---including (among others) Jack Bell of the Associated Press, Jay Watson of WFAA-TV, cameraman Mal Couch of WFAA-TV, and Pierce Allman of WFAA-Radio.<br />
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In addition, there's eyewitness Bill Newman, who, no more than 25 minutes after the assassination, said that he heard only TWO shots fired, which is certainly not a number that fits very well into the kind of <b>"more than three shots were fired"</b> shooting scenario endorsed by David Lifton (unless David thinks several shots were of the "silenced" variety).<br />
<br />
And Lifton's assassination scenario is further damaged by the testimony of various other witnesses who were in Dealey Plaza when the gunfire was ringing out, such as <a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/john-and-nellie-connally.html">Nellie Connally and John Connally</a>. Nellie is also a "three shots" witness (all coming from <b>"over my right shoulder"</b> according to Mrs. Connally, which would be from the general direction of the Book Depository). <br />
<br />
And John Connally is also, in effect, a "three shots" witness too--with John hearing the first and third shots, while being struck by the second shot, which he said he did not hear. And, like Nellie, John Connally is very clear as to the direction he thought those shots were coming from--back over his right shoulder.<br />
<br />
I wonder if Lifton considers all of those people I just mentioned (plus many more "three shots" witnesses I didn't mention) to be part of a conspiracy plot or cover-up? If so, Lifton's goofiness just might have reached new heights.<br />
<br />
The more David Lifton talks, the more crowded it gets at the <i>Conspiracy Hotel</i>, which must have had its "No Vacancy" sign flashing before the end of the day on November 22nd.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON DECEMBER 25, 2014, DAVID VON PEIN <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/449371715190297/permalink/640306846096782/">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
<br />
On Christmas morning 2014, I received a notification e-mail concerning the following tender and heartwarming Internet post written by conspiracy theorist David <i>"The Body Was Altered"</i> Lifton:<br />
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<b>[Lifton Quote On:]</b><br />
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<i>"David Von Pein is a good collector--and a webmaster of sorts. (Let's give credit where credit is due). But that's about all he is. He cannot reason very well, and--basically--he's a professional propagandist. If there had been an Internet 700 years ago, and he was around at that time, he'd be spending his time as a spokes-person for the Flat Earth Society. He's really not much better than that. <br />
<br />
Von Pein is what happens when the readily available technology of the Internet gets into the hands of a closed mind and an intellectual reactionary.<br />
<br />
But that's all right. We can all benefit from his website, even if he's too intellectually limited to "connect the dots" correctly.<br />
<br />
DSL<br />
<a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/GPd3btEvk1A/QVNNsZ1aF6IJ">12/25/14</a> - 8 am PST<br />
Los Angeles, California"</i><br />
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And with the above bright and cheery greeting from Mr. Lifton, it gives me a good opportunity to reciprocate and to wish Mr. David S. Lifton a very Merry Christmas and a Happy 2015.<br />
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And if you want to see how Mr. Lifton's brilliant mind has managed to "connect the dots" in the JFK case, just scroll back up this page. (After all, everybody deserves a good hearty chuckle on Christmas Day....or any day.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/21830-martin-hays-review-of-david-von-peins-book/page/7/?tab=comments#comment-328076">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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Later that morning [November 22, 1963], Lee Oswald was observed on the elevator, going upstairs, and passed a witness (and her supervisor) and they both saw him carrying a long package. "What'cha got there?" he was asked. And Lee responded that it was a "fishing pole."<br />
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[...]<br />
<br />
The witnesses who saw Oswald with the longer package (that he explained as "fishing rods") did not make their statements to the FBI, but certainly did talk about it years later. It was first published in 1988 in American History Illustrated. I communicated with the author--Ed Oxford--and found his research and interviews to be quite credible. (But that's a whole other story.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/21830-martin-hays-review-of-david-von-peins-book/page/7/?tab=comments#comment-328080">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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I've never heard that fairy tale before in my life. Who is the female witness, David? And who's the "supervisor"?<br />
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I'd love it if that story could somehow be proven to be true, though, because such a "fishing pole" lie being uttered by Lee Harvey Oswald would be just that much <b>more</b> of a solid indication that the package he was carrying on November 22nd contained his Carcano rifle.<br />
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Such a "fishing pole" tale, if true, would mean that Oswald told <b>different</b> lies to different people throughout the day on 11/22/63 -- with Lee telling <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/buell-wesley-frazier.html">Buell Wesley Frazier</a></b> that the package contained <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/curtain-rods.html">"curtain rods"</a></b>, while (allegedly) telling someone else later in the day that the (presumably) <i>very same</i> package had a "fishing pole" in it.<br />
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You'd then have to ask yourself this question:<br />
<a name="Why-Not-Stick-To-The-Same-Story"></a><br />
Why didn't Oswald just stick with the same story about curtain rods that he started the day with when he drove to work with Frazier? Because the more nonexistent things he tries to cram into that brown paper package, the more obvious (and <i>provable</i>) his lies become.<br />
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But I doubt any such "fishing pole" or "fishing rods" encounter ever happened in the first place, much the same way Robert Groden's bombshell <b>"I Was Giving LHO Change At The Time Of The Assassination When We Heard The Shots"</b> witness, Mrs. Reid, was a hoax too, with that wholly unbelievable story being invented many years later.<br />
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Because if <i>that</i> story allegedly told by Mrs. Reid had even a grain of truth in it, we would have heard it coming from the mouth of Lee Oswald <i>himself</i> after his arrest — <b><i>"Hey, why am I being accused of shooting the President?! I was in the office on the second floor at that time, getting change for the Coke machine! Just ask Mrs. Reid. She was right there with me!"</i></b> (Oswald, of course, never said anything of the kind to the police after he was arrested.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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DVP:<br />
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I'm not going to go further at this point in time. But the witness(es) exist and--from your post--you clearly understand the implications.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Well, then, what are the names of those two TSBD witnesses, David? I asked, but you failed to answer me. Or didn't Ed Oxford mention their names in his 1988 American History Illustrated article concerning the alleged "fishing pole/rods" statement?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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You make a serious error when you refer to it as "that fairy tale" and I find it telling that you were unaware of the witness. <br />
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Saying "I've never heard that fairy tale before in my life" is revealing.<br />
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Surely you do understand that just because you are unaware of something does not mean it is non-existent.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Well, I'm certainly not alone, David. In fact, I'm in very good company when it comes to my ignorance on that topic. Because the late Vincent Bugliosi had apparently never heard the "fishing pole" tale either. No such information, at any rate, can be found on any of the 2800+ pages of "Reclaiming History", because I looked it up (via a word search in the PDF version of Bugliosi's book) and there are zero references to "fishing pole" or "fishing rods" relating to any kind of a story told by any Book Depository witnesses. So, like me, I guess Vince was in the dark about that particular story too.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Proving something like that to be true is important for the very reasons you stated: if true--i.e., if Oswald provided two separate (and different) explanations for the package would imply that Oswald was involved in deception; and of course, the ultimate implication was that what was in the package was neither curtain rods nor fishing rods.<br />
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I'll pursue this matter further in the future.<br />
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With regard to Buell Frazier .... I go way back to the original work done by the late George O'Toole, who emphasized how totally frightened Frazier was that weekend. Really "freaked out" (to use the more current vernacular).<br />
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FWIW: I spent time with Michael Paine in 1995--at his home in Boxboro, Mass.--and he revealed how frightened he was; and actually started crying during my taped interview.<br />
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I completely disagree with DiEugenio's oversimplified notion that these people (the Paines, Marina, etc.) are all crooked, etc. My impression, from watching several filmed interviews of Ruth Paine (particularly the ones you have archived on your <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-87.html">thread #87</a></b>) are very enlightening. <br />
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DiEugenio...just draws incorrect inferences, talks glibly, postulates false hypotheses (particularly about Ruth Paine), and then mounts his high horse and engages in slander.<br />
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To close again with your own quote: <b><i>"Such a "fishing pole" tale, if true, would mean that Oswald told different lies to different people throughout the day on 11/22/63 -- with Lee telling Buell Wesley Frazier that the package contained "curtain rods", while (allegedly) telling someone else later in the morning that the (presumably) very same package had a "fishing pole" in it."</i></b> Agreed. That is exactly the case; only I would not say "throughout the day." That [is] an inaccurate characterization of the situation. There are only two points on the time line. Two separate times when he spoke to the issue of what was in the package.<br />
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Regarding the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1117.html#Why-Not-Stick-To-The-Same-Story">question you posed</a></b>: it's a reasonable one. And I don't have a great answer. But one possibility does occur to me: that when Frazier saw him with the package (early in the morning of 11/22) the rifle was "disassembled", whereas when the "elevator" witness saw him with it, it had been completely assembled and was "thinner" and somewhat longer; consequently, "curtain rods" would not be an adequate explanation for the second observer (or observers). <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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But via the scenario that you just outlined, David, the completely assembled <b>40.2-inch</b> rifle would have been too long for the <b>38-inch</b> brown paper bag Oswald was carrying it in [<b><a href="http://www.maryferrell.org/archive/photos/NARA-BLANKET/Photo_naraevid_CE142-2.jpg">CE142</a></b>], and, hence, part of the gun would likely have been sticking out of the top (or bottom) of the bag when the two TSBD witnesses (allegedly) saw Oswald carrying it in the elevator on 11/22/63. Unless the gun could have been placed into the bag at a slight <i>angle</i>, which might have made it possible for a 40-inch object to be completely hidden within a 38-inch paper bag. But I've never done any experiments on this before, so I'm not sure if the 2.2-inch differential in the lengths could be <i>completely</i> compensated for by putting the rifle into the bag at an angle.<br />
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Now, I suppose any of the above speculative scenarios are <i>possible</i>, I don't deny that. But allowing part of the weapon to protrude out of the bag (if, in fact, the gun could not be put into the bag in a way to conceal the entire length of the C2766 Mannlicher-Carcano carbine) would have been a risky thing for Oswald to do. <br />
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But, I guess under such a circumstance, Lee wouldn't have had too many choices either. He probably wouldn't want to construct a whole <i>new</i> bag from Troy West's TSBD wrapping table just for the purpose of transporting the rifle up to the sixth floor from a lower floor. So, as an alternative, he could possibly have placed his hand over the end of the bag (where the rifle was protruding), in order to temporarily hide the gun from any prying eyes that might want to gaze upon it as Lee ascended to the sixth floor. Such a "fly by the seat of your pants" plan would certainly be possible and doable, IMO.<br />
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I still have great doubts about the "fishing pole" / "fishing rods" story, however. But I will readily admit that I could be wrong when it comes to my deep skepticism on this matter. In fact, as I said earlier....<br />
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<i>"I'd love it if that story could somehow be proven to be true...because such a "fishing pole" lie being uttered by Lee Harvey Oswald would be just that much <b>more</b> of a solid indication that the package he was carrying on November 22nd contained his Carcano rifle."</i><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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To recap (and this is just speculation): "curtain rods" would be a reasonable explanation for the way he described the package to BWF (early on Friday morning) but not the way it appeared when seen on the elevator sometime later. Just a thought. Without a time machine, or modern day security cameras, perhaps we'll never know.<br />
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Re your final comment: <i><b>"But I doubt any such "fishing pole" or "fishing rods" encounter ever happened in the first place"</i></b> is quite incorrect; and there is no comparison between the situation to which I'm referring and the sort of nonsense promulgated by Robert Groden re Mrs. Reid. Mrs Reid--as you well know--was interviewed by the FBI and Secret Service, and then testified to the WC. From the standpoint of valid historiography, she cannot "amend" her account a half century later, and be credible. Assuming her late arriving account is the truth, I can only say this: If she indeed had "made change" for Oswald, then she would have to have stated that from the beginning. That's not something that can be added to a story a half century later. Once she doesn't say it when originally interviewed, then she cannot expect that account to be believed.<br />
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DSL<br />
4/6/16 - 5:50 a.m. PDT<br />
Los Angeles, California<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thank you, David Lifton, for your detailed reply of Wednesday morning, April 6th, 2016 AD, written from the great western city of Los Angeles, California, home of the Los Angeles Dodgers, long-time rivals of my favorite baseball team, the <b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2009/10/cincinnati-reds-index.html">Cincinnati Reds</a></b>, Riverfront Stadium, Cincinnati, Ohio, USA, Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way.<br />
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DVP<br />
4/6/16 - 6:59 p.m. EDT<br />
Mooresville, Indiana<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23701-does-liftons-best-evidence-indicate-that-the-coverup-and-the-crime-were-committed-by-the-same-people/#comment-349239">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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It was never intended that there would be two medico-legal records: one from certain medical personnel who saw the body prior to alteration; and a second record emerging from those present at the official autopsy. <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23701-does-liftons-best-evidence-indicate-that-the-coverup-and-the-crime-were-committed-by-the-same-people/#comment-349260">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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Which means that the people who arranged, <i><b><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23701-does-liftons-best-evidence-indicate-that-the-coverup-and-the-crime-were-committed-by-the-same-people/#comment-349239">"in advance, to alter the body (as part of the crime)"</a></i></b>, MUST have thought that after he was shot, President Kennedy would <b>NOT</b> be transported to any hospital in the Dallas area for medical treatment.<br />
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Is that what you're suggesting, Mr. Lifton?<br />
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But, just for the sake of argument, even if your theory is correct about a pre-planned <i>"sophisticated strategic deception"</i>, how could the plotters who were planning such a complicated mission on 11/22/63 have possibly thought they could have totally concealed the FRONTAL gunshot wounds that these gunmen/conspirators knew were going to be sustained by JFK during the shooting in Dealey Plaza (since you think ALL shots that hit the President came from the FRONT and not the REAR)?<br />
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How on Earth could such a crazy, backward plot to kill the President possibly be successful, given the fact that anyone with half a brain <b>HAD</b> to know that the injured President was most certainly going to be rushed to the nearest hospital immediately after the injuries were sustained -- i.e., well <i><b>BEFORE</i></b> any kind of covert body-altering surgery could have possibly been performed on the body of the President?<br />
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I think only these four words need to be uttered at this point...<br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><i><b>It makes no sense!</i></b></span><br />
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DVP<br />
4/04/2017; 12:37 p.m. EDT<br />
Mooresville, Indiana USA<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GERRY SIMONE SAID:</span></b><br />
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Hello David [VP],<br />
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Maybe the plan all along was for only rear shooter<b>S</b> getting JFK, but when they had to rely on a frontal shooter, then it complicated things and the cover-up apparatus went into overdrive.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Utilizing <b>ANY</b> frontal shooters <b>AT ALL</b> within an assassination plot like the one purported by David Lifton (and all other CTers who think Oswald was being set up <i><b>in advance</i></b> to take the fall as the lone assassin) would have been <b>suicide</b> for the conspirators.<br />
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How can that basic fact not be blatantly obvious to everybody here? <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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David Von Pein:<br />
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In this regard, I cannot speak for anyone else, only for myself, but you are dead wrong, as will be established definitively with the publication of <i>Final Charade</i>. In the interim, please engage in the following thought experiment:<br />
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<b>Step 1:</b> Imagine a large dumpster, of the kind used to pick up trash in many communities. (They are all over the roads, here in Southern California, especially in the early morning hours, clanking loudly as they race down the major avenues towards their various destinations).<br />
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<b>Step 2:</b> Imagine a big sign being placed on that dumpster device: “Dustbin of History” (and perhaps in small type, and in order to give proper intellectual credit: “Original wording, per Leon Trotsky”).<br />
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<b>Step 3:</b> Imagine yourself being consigned to that location, because of your persistent and very loud statements that the President could not have been shot from the front (and setting aside the issue of whether he was shot “only” from the front). You keep pointing out this problem, and I gather it concerns you deeply. That is a good sign. It shows you have the capacity to think logically. Now, to the next step. . .<br />
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<b>SOMETHING FOR YOU TO PONDER:</b> Do you really think that those who engineered the plan to remove Kennedy from office were so stupid that they set up a plan to shoot him in a motorcade, and to frame a “pre-selected patsy” (etc.), and yet were such dunderheads that they failed to conceive of a plan to remove bullets, much less alter wounds? Do you not think that anyone with an IQ above room temperature might conceive of the necessity for such planning? <br />
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Or do you believe you're the only person, blessed with the intelligence and insight, to raise such an issue?<br />
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Food for thought.<br />
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DSL<br />
4/5/2017 – 11:35 a.m. PDT<br />
Los Angeles, California<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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But you see, David, since I don't think for one second that there was a group of people out there who <i><b>"engineered the plan to remove Kennedy from office"</i></b>, I, therefore, don't have to engage in the wild speculation that you have engaged in for the last fifty-one years about "altered wounds" and "falsified evidence" and an elaborate "sophisticated strategic deception".<br />
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In my opinion, Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, killed President Kennedy by firing three shots at him from the sixth floor of the Book Depository Building. And the evidence in the case most certainly supports that basic fundamental conclusion (despite the continued protestations of conspiracy theorists).<br />
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But even if I <b>were</b> to take a big leap off of your unique conspiracy-slanted diving board and accept the idea that some unknown group was responsible for JFK's death, my previous <b>"It makes no sense!"</b> comment would still be a perfectly valid and reasonable comment. Because <b>no sensible person</b> who was in the process of planning--<b>IN ADVANCE</b>--the following two things (in tandem with each other) would have even <b>considered</b> for even a single moment the idea of shooting at President Kennedy from the <b>FRONT</b>....<br />
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<b>1. Kill John F. Kennedy.<br />
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2. Frame Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone "patsy" for JFK's murder.</b><br />
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By firing any bullets into JFK's body <b>FROM THE FRONT</b>, the plotters have virtually guaranteed that #2 could not be accomplished (unless, that is, God Himself was part of the assassination hit team).<br />
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DVP<br />
4/05/2017; 4:14 p.m. EDT<br />
Mooresville, Indiana USA<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23701-does-liftons-best-evidence-indicate-that-the-coverup-and-the-crime-were-committed-by-the-same-people/&page=33#comment-351203">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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Here's the problem: There is no Dallas Police Department record--no DPD report, no DPD inventory, no DPD photographs, etc.--nor is there any such FBI record, of a filing cabinet. Filing cabinets are big items--I know. I have over 45 of them--2 drawer, 4 drawer, and 5 drawer. Items that big couldn't just "disappear"--I don't think. So my take on this, over the years, is that what someone called a "filing cabinet" was in fact a little metal box with some 5 x 7 index cards inside. And that's why, when I was carefully reviewing the FBI (and/or DPD, I forget which just now) "property lists," the presence of those particular cards excited my interest. And that's why I ordered copies of them.<br />
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Believe me: I wouldn't put anything past the DPD, but it's just not in the range of plausibility that they could make a 4 drawer filing cabinet (or even a 2 drawer one) just disappear. Without a trace. And without someone saying, <i>"Oh yeah, and then I saw these mover people come in and they were rolling this filing cabinet out on a dolly"</i>. You know what I'm getting at. As for those small metal boxes that hold 3 x 5 or 5 x 7 index cards--that's an entirely different story.<br />
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DSL<br />
4/21/2017 - 10:45 a.m. PDT<br />
Los Angeles, California<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23701-does-liftons-best-evidence-indicate-that-the-coverup-and-the-crime-were-committed-by-the-same-people/&page=34#comment-351233">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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David L.,<br />
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It's clear from Buddy Walthers' Warren Commission testimony that Walthers was <b>NOT</b> talking about the great big type of "filing cabinets" that you'd find in offices. He specifically used the word <b>"LITTLE"</b> before he used the words <b>"FILE CABINETS"</b>. And he then goes on to describe in more detail the size of those "cabinets" [see <b><a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/html/WC_Vol7_0278b.htm">7 H 548</a></b>]....<br />
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<i>"...and then we found some <b>little metal file cabinets</b>—I don't know <br />
what kind you would call them—they would carry an 8 by 10 folder, all <br />
right, but with a <b>single handle on top of it</b> and the handle moves."</i> <br />
<b>-- Buddy Walthers; July 23, 1964</b><br />
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Also see:<br />
<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-87.html#File-Cabinets">jfk-archives.blogspot.com/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-87/File-Cabinets</a></b><br />
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DVP<br />
4/22/2017; 3:48 a.m. EDT<br />
Mooresville, Indiana USA<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=21&tab=comments#comment-370979">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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(a) Some years after the publication of <b><i><a href="http://best-evidence.blogspot.com">Best Evidence</a></i></b> (and I believe what I am about to describe took place after the 1988 Carrol & Graf edition, the first ever publication of the JFK autopsy photos), I received a letter from a nurse (someone named "Dobson," as I recall) who apparently had read B.E. and was following the controversy concerning the JFK assassination. She said (again, quoting from memory): <i>"Mr. Lifton...are you aware that Dr. Perry originally stated that he made the horizontal incision below--I stress "below"--the bullet wound?"</i> She then cited, as her source, the famous article that appeared in the Saturday Evening Post dated (approx., from memory) December 10th, 1963, titled "Death in E.R. One", by writer Jimmy Breslin. She quoted from the article, I had that article in my files, and, sure enough, there it was, right there in the text: Breslin was reporting that Perry had told him that the incision he made was "below" the bullet wound. Of course, I found this very significant, but there was still more to come.<br />
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(b) When did Breslin conduct this interview with Perry? Was it a week or two later, in December (and "just in time" for the Saturday Evening Post's editorial deadline for that mid-December issue) or earlier? I don't have to emphasize the importance of the original interview date. As every law student is taught (and every historian knows) the "earliest" recorded recollection is the "better" evidence. But the exact date of [the] interview was not at all clear. Certainly, it was not indicated in the text of that December 1963 Saturday Evening Post article. Now..."flash forward" several years... <br />
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(c) At some point in time, and I don't remember exactly when this (what follows) occurred, I was consulting my voluminous files on all the original media coverage, and found--to my considerable surprise--that the Breslin article, with the identical text, <i><b>was originally published in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch of Sunday, November 24, 1963</i></b>. Further, the original publication of that article made clear that Breslin had interviewed Dr. Perry on November 23rd, 1963 (and possibly on 11/22; but let's just say, "by November 23rd, without a doubt" (my quotes). So Breslin's article in the mid-December Saturday Evening Post was simply a reprint what had been published on November 24, 1963, and represented what Dr. Perry told Jimmy Breslin on Saturday, November 23, 1963. <br />
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(d) At that point, I believed, based on what Breslin had published on 11/24 (which is what Perry had told him on 11/23) that Perry had made his incision "below" the original bullet wound. But...there is still more...<br />
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(e) Checking the exact wording of medical reports of the two key doctors (Dr. Carrico, who first treated President Kennedy, and inserted the endotracheal tube), here's what we find: From Dr. Carrico's 11/22/63 report: <i>"a tracheotomy was performed by Dr. Perry"</i> (WCE 392 [17 WCH 5]); and from Dr. Perry's 11/22/63 report: <i>"a tracheostomy was effected...the tube was put in place"</i> etc. (WCE 292 [17 WCH 7]). <br />
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(f) One doesn't have to be a linguistics expert to understand that (a) neither doctor made any mention of making an incision and that (b) the passive voice was used, which avoided the issue entirely (i.e., "the tube was put in place", etc.).<br />
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(g) "All of the above" is by way of background--and the point is (that is "my point is") that for quite a few years, I believed that Perry had made his incision "below" the bullet wound (as he [Perry] had apparently told Breslin he had, on 11/23/63, and which Breslin had then written in his article as published on 11/24/63 in the St. Louis Post Dispatch).<br />
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OK...now, let's move on...<br />
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(h) At that point, the issue was: Why did Perry not tell the Warren Commission that he made his incision below the bullet wound, and not "through" the wound?<br />
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In other words, the issue--at that point in time--was (if what Perry originally told Breslin was the truth): Why was Dr. Perry complicit in an attempt to hide from history (and specifically, from the Warren Commission) the fact that he had not made his incision "through" the wound? (Remember: Perry did not have access to the Bethesda autopsy photos, so he did not know how that wound looked by the time it reached Bethesda that night. He did not have that info until Robert Groden showed Perry the <b><a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LLQ3TtBMCW4/WpcQb0L1saI/AAAAAAABOUA/PUqUCDruUHgGSLIPSL84v4ujs7oPxeNXACLcBGAs/s2000/JFK-Autopsy-Photo.JPG">face-up autopsy photograph</a></b>, when he (and a Baltimore reporter) visited Perry at his office sometime in 1978/79, when the HSCA was still in session, and Groden showed Perry the face-up autopsy photograph which, apparently, he had permission to possess...although I'm not sure on this last point).<br />
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(i) In December 1982, when I first came into possession of a set of the (Fox) black-and-white autopsy photos (See Epilogue to B.E., 1988 edition, published again in 1993, Signet), it became obvious how serious this matter was, because the effect of Perry's perjury (the proper legal name for what he did) became apparent: there was, by the time these autopsy photos were taken at Bethesda, a wide and obvious horizontal gash in President Kennedy's throat, and obviously that was not the "trach incision" made by Dr. Perry, if (a) he had made "his" incision below the original bullet wound and (b) if he had made no incision at all.<br />
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Which brings me to the next point...<br />
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(j) At some point, I became aware of Dr. Dave Stewart's statements, in a 1966 (or perhaps 1967) interview--date uncertain--and which was a front page story in the Nashville (Tenn.) Banner (again, from memory). At that point, I tried to evaluate what he had said, but, confusing the situation, was the transcript of Dr. Perry's CBS interview (broadcast in June 1967), which--according to the transcript in White's book--stated that he had "rendered the wound invalid." That incorrect transcript--which I did not know was incorrect (i.e., had been deliberately falsified)--something I did not know until June/July 1989--served to confuse me and thwart any attempt at proper analysis. And here's how the "turning point" (or "tipping point", to use more current vernacular) occurred.<br />
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(k) In 1982, I did a serious, in depth, telephone interview with Dr. Stewart. He stated--indeed, emphasized--that Dr. Perry stated that he (Perry) had said to him (Dr. Stewart) that he had left the wound "inviolate." I listened, made notes, probably made a recording, and wrote up a detailed memo. Based on the false transcript at the back of the Stephen White book (mentioned in my previous writing on this thread), I (incorrectly) concluded that Dr. Stewart was simply mistaken. Perry had said (I thought) that he rendered the wound "invalid." He had never said "inviolate." All of what I have just described was in my 1982 multi-page memo.<br />
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(l) I made a copy of that memo and provided it to Pat Valentino. More important, when I moved from New Jersey (where I lived for a few years, after B.E. was published) back to Los Angeles, Pat V. flew east to help me move. There were tons of files, many filing cabinets and shelving, and Pat was invaluable in helping me dissemble everything, pack it up, and put it into a large truck we had rented for the cross country trip. As he worked in my New Jersey apartment, with its beautiful view over the Hudson River, he wore a headset with a connecting wire to a small cassette recorder he wore on his belt and listened to the tapes of various recordings I had made over the years, and which were stacked on shelves. Often, he would stop moving the dolly, take off the headset, and exclaim, <i>"David: Did you know what Malcolm Kilduff told you?"</i> (And I would usually say, <i>"No, I don't remember...what did he say?"</i> etc., because Pat is blessed with an eidetic memory; I, unfortunately, am not.)<br />
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Well, one of the tapes he listened to was my conversation (circa 1982) with Dr. Dave Stewart. Pat was really impressed with Dr. Stewart's audio demeanor. <i>"David, this man is telling you the truth! This is important!"</i> And I, having already reviewed the situation more than once, responded by saying, <i>"Pat, he's wrong. He's just confused. He's got the word "inviolate" confused with "invalid." Perry said "I rendered the wound invalid. He did not say "inviolate"</i>. <i>Now how do you know that?</i> was Pat's response. And my response to Pat was: <i>"Just read the transcript of the CBS show. It's right there, in the transcript. Perry said "I rendered it invalid." He did not say that he left the wound "inviolate."</i> Of course, I was relying on the incorrect transcript (read: deliberately falsified transcript, falsified by someone connected with the White book) at the back of White's back. But there the matter rested, for years. Pat believed what Dr. Stewart had told me over the phone; I did not. But...<br />
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(m) But Pat was so insistent on the point, that--around 1988/89, when I raised the money to go round the country for a series of filmed interviews--we should include Dr. Stewart on our itinerary, and so we did. Meanwhile, and just days before, that itinerary included a detailed interview/meeting with Groden, at his home in Hopelawn, New Jersey. One purpose of the meeting with Groden was to get the best copies we could of the Zapruder film, and other films, for which Groden was paid $5,000, and signed a contract. (Groden later denied much of this, but he signed the contract, he was paid, and in subsequent interviews, simply lied about it. See my essay, "Pig on a Leash," published in the Fetzer anthology, Hoax, for the details). And I certainly do not wish to be diverted here, into a discussion of Robert Groden, or his ethics, character, and general behavior. Simply put, he's an obsessive collector, much more so than a researcher, and a hoarder. But, putting all that aside (and that may hold the key to the missing original Nix film, and the missing original Muchmore film) that provides the context of how it was that, lubricated by the payment (of the first $2500) and suffused with a general feeling of goodwill, Groden played (for us) his crystal clear copy of the CBS interview of Perry, made in 1966/67, and broadcast in June 1967) and there it was, right there on the tape, Perry stating that "I left the wound inviolate." Again: "inviolate"...crystal clear, on the tape.<br />
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(n) Our very next stop after spending two days with Groden (again, this was June/July 1989) was to meet with Dr. Stewart (at his residence in the SE United States). We spent hours with him, and conducted an excellent filmed interview. Going over the whole story--A to Z--asking every single question we could, getting it all down on film. It's an important story, historically, because Dr. Stewart should have been (and could have been) an important witness before the Warren Commission. But that never happened because the Warren Commission was completely focused on the sophomoric "Oswald-did-it" story and never approached the case from the standpoint that there might be fraud in the evidence. Had they done so, had they heard Dr. Stewart's story, there would have been additional testimony sought from Dr. Perry and it would have been very clear that one of them was not telling the truth. Stewart would have testified that Perry said that he left the wound "inviolate"; and Perry would have been asked to explain why he testified that he made a horizontal incision through the wound.<br />
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(O) So that's the background about how all this was discovered, and the legal and historical implications. Suddenly, the tables were turned, and it became clear that:<br />
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(1) It was Dr. Stewart who was telling the truth about what Perry had said,<br />
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(2) That Dr. Perry himself actually used the word inviolate in his 1967 CBS interview (possibly done in 1966, but broadcast in June 1967); and...<br />
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(3) That the CBS transcript located at the back (in an Appendix) to the Steve White book (<i>"Should We Now Believe The Warren Report"</i>-1968) was incorrect (IMHO: deliberately falsified, by someone connected with the White book, to prevent White from learning the truth about what Perry had actually said, and pursuing the matter). Because note...<br />
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(4) If Perry said "inviolate" (which he did, because--as Dr. Stewart noted to us, on camera--it's right there in his CBS interview, as broadcast nationally in June 1967), then that provides a "direct path" to the thesis of body alteration. Why? Because no longer are we dealing with "surgery of the head area" but an entirely different "highway to the truth", one that involves the front throat wound, and is based upon a comparison of "what Perry said" with "what the autopsy photographs" (and specifically, the stare-of-death photo) shows.<br />
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My final conclusion on this matter is that <i><b>Dr. Perry never made an incision</i></b>. He simply maneuvered the tube into the pre-existing bullet hole, as Dr. Dave Stewart said and (as I have now ascertained, Dr. McClelland said, also. More on that in <i>Final Charade</i>). And then the following events occurred:<br />
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(a) When interviewed by Breslin the next day (Sat., 11/23/63) Perry said that he made an incision "below" the bullet wound (apparently not wanting to get involved with anything having to do with that wound). <br />
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(b) On March 25, 1964, by the time he was deposed by Warren Commission counsel Specter, he had (apparently) been importuned to go along with the story that he had made a horizontal incision through the wound. On that date, he simply stated that he had "initiated the procedure" (6 WCH 9);<br />
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(c) Five days later, on March 30th, 1964, Perry testified in Washington before Chief Justice Warren, Allen Dulles, Ford, Boggs, etc. <br />
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On that occasion, he said: "I began the tracheotomy making a transverse incision right through the wound in the neck." (3 WCH 369)<br />
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If I'm correct, Dr. Perry was completely compromised--morally, and legally--by these decisions to testify in this manner, but I do not believe he would have made these decisions without the sanction of "higher authority." That is another subject, and one which I will address in <i>Final Charade</i>.<br />
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In plain English, and now focusing on the throat wound: in the 1963/64 time frame, someone was behind an effort to hide the fact that the President's body was altered. As a consequence: the very serious and obvious conflict between what the face-up autopsy photo shows (the wide gash, etc.), and what Perry (originally) said that he did (never made an incision, etc) was completely hidden from view. The double whammy: Perry testified falsely; and the autopsy photographs were unavailable for (at least) five years; and remember: they were not published (by me) until 1988.<br />
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Obviously, Dr. Dave Stewart is one of the unsung heroes of this whole matter of the throat wound, and he will be receiving full and proper credit in Final Charade. Furthermore, its my intention that the appropriate excerpts of the June/July 1989 interview with Robert Groden and, most importantly, of Dave Stewart, will be made available either on the Internet or via DVD.<br />
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I have completely re-evaluated my position (re the autopsy doctors) from what it was at the time I wrote <i>Best Evidence</i>. I will have much more to say about this, but it is beyond the scope of this thread. The issue goes way beyond whether Humes was "aware of Kennedy's throat wound". The issue is "much worse" than that; and much more fundamental: whether Humes and Boswell knew that the president's body had been intercepted and altered prior to its arrival at the Bethesda morgue. And: if they knew...what were they told? How was the situation explained to them? etc. And, finally, how were the autopsy photographs created? Did these two individuals supervise the taking of photographs that were based on a reconstruction? Again, what were they told? How was such activity explained (i.e., justified) to them?<br />
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Stay tuned.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=22&tab=comments#comment-371039">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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I guess Mr. Lifton thinks there's a whole lot of lying going on in the interviews embedded below....<br />
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<b>2009 INTERVIEW WITH DR. ROBERT McCLELLAND:</b><br />
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Skip to about the 10:00 mark in the McClelland interview above to hear him talk in some detail about the "incision" that was made through the bullet wound in JFK's throat; and then go to 41:25, where McClelland says the large tracheotomy wound in the autopsy photos is exactly the same size as the trach wound he saw at Parkland on 11/22/63. [Also see <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/parkland-doctors-on-pbs-tv-in-1988.html">this related article</a></b>.]<br />
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<i><b>"Some people have even said 'Oh, that tracheostomy has been altered; it's too big a wound'. Well, I can speak for that -- no, it had not been altered. That's exactly the way it was made at Parkland. It's just that people expected it to be smaller."</i></b> -- Dr. Robert McClelland; 2009<br />
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<b>1963 & 1967 INTERVIEWS WITH DR. MALCOLM PERRY:</b><br />
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In the 1967 interview above, Dr. Perry says that he did some <b>"cutting through the wound"</b> just before he says the word <b>"inviolate"</b> or <b>"invalid"</b>. But regardless of which word he used there, it's a moot point because of the words he uttered immediately prior to that --- <i><b>"cutting through the wound"</i></b>. <br />
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And please keep in mind the context of the sentence that Dr. Perry is uttering. The word "inviolate" in that part of his 1967 CBS-TV interview doesn't make any sense at all. But "invalid" sure does. Perry's complete statement was: <br />
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<b><i>"I didn't really concern myself too much with how it happened or why. And for that reason, of course, I didn't think about cutting through the wound, which, of course, rendered it invalid (inviolate?) for as regards further examination and inspection."</i></b><br />
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Now, if the word spoken by Dr. Perry there was really "inviolate", how does that sentence he just spoke make any sense at all? Inviolate means <b><a href="https://www.thefreedictionary.com/inviolate">"Not Violated" and "Intact"</a></b>. So if Perry had <b>really</b> said the wound was "inviolate", it would have meant the wound was still "intact", and therefore it COULD have still been available for "further examination and inspection". But Perry implied exactly the opposite in his '67 interview. He was implying the wound was <i><b>no longer</i></b> available for additional examination. (Is there any doubt in anyone's mind—even David Lifton's—that that is what he was implying there? How could anyone doubt that fact after listening to the full interview?) Therefore, how could he have meant the wound was "inviolate"?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=24&tab=comments#comment-371178">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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We (Pat V. and I) were both astounded to hear Perry say, “I left the wound inviolate.”<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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That's not what Dr. Perry said in his 1967 CBS interview at all. Why are you twisting the quote? Perry never told Eddie Barker that he left the wound INTACT and UNDISTURBED (i.e., "inviolate")! He told him exactly the opposite! As I quoted (verbatim) previously, Perry said this:<br />
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<i><b>"I didn't really concern myself too much with how it happened or why. And for that reason, of course, I didn't think about cutting through the wound, which, of course, rendered it invalid (inviolate?) for as regards further examination and inspection."</i></b><br />
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And even if the word spoken by Perry there is "inviolate" (and not "invalid"), how can you (or anyone else) possibly argue that such a statement makes <b>ANY</b> sense at all?<br />
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If he actually said "inviolate", he would have, in effect, been saying <i>"I cut through the wound which rendered it intact."</i> Does that make any logical sense to you, Mr. Lifton?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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When I was in Groden’s home, and watching multiple replays of that part of the CBS tape, it was clear to me that someone had attempted to monkey with the tape, because the audio was indistinct, and the lip movements of Perry were definitely out of sync with what he was supposedly saying: that he “left the wound invalid.”<br />
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It wasn’t too long before I put “two plus two” together, and realized that someone had attempted to deceive the author (Steve White) into believing that Perry had said “I rendered the wound invalid” when in fact he had said “I left the wound inviolate.”<br />
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The alteration of the transcript plus the blatant and easily observable attempt to fiddle with the audio made clear that this was all quite deliberate, and someone had tried to deceive the author and to hide from the pubic the truth about what Perry had said.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I just looked once again at <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGOYUc1cXFjQ2JGcGc/view">this video version</a></b> of Perry's '67 interview, and it's very clear that the audio and the video are perfectly "in sync" with one another. There is nothing unusual or sinister about it whatsoever. And, no, I didn't "monkey" around with that video file prior to posting it so that the audio and video portions would match perfectly, which they do. Dr. Perry's mouth movements are in perfect sync with the audio that we are hearing. And why David Lifton thinks otherwise is the true mystery.<br />
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Of course, it's possible that Robert Groden's taped version of the 1967 interview <b>is</b> out of sync for some reason. That's quite possible. But that certainly doesn't have to indicate any "monkeying around" with the original video. Any number of technical things could happen that can result in audio going out of sync with video on VHS tapes, DVDs, digital files, etc. I've had that happen to my video files all the time, and it's annoying as hell. But I don't think it has anything to do with somebody trying to "monkey around" with my files. It's just something that happens in the "A/V" world.<br />
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Bottom Line (as usual) --- A conspiracy theorist is making a huge mountain out of something that doesn't even rise to the level of an anthill.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Well, this is certainly interesting.<br />
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It appears that the 1967 CBS interview audio has <i>two versions</i>, one with Dr. Perry saying he "left the wound inviolate" and the other with him saying he "rendered it invalid." ("Inviolate" and "invalid" sound the same, but can be differentiated via the context in which the word is used.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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There aren't two different "versions" of the CBS video/audio at all. David Lifton just misquoted what Dr. Perry said in the <b>ONE</b> and only version. Lifton is just wrong when he put these words in quotes --- <b>"I left the wound inviolate"</b>. We know Perry never said those exact words because of <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGOYUc1cXFjQ2JGcGc/view">this video</a></b> I posted previously. In that video, Perry's lips match the audio perfectly. How can anyone doubt that fact---even David S. Lifton?<br />
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And the words "I left" in Lifton's version of Perry's quote are very important too. And those are words--<b>"I left"</b>--that Dr. Perry never uttered in that CBS statement at all. Lifton simply misquoted Perry.<br />
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The question that remains is --- Did David Lifton <b>deliberately</b> misquote Perry when it comes to the 1967 CBS interview? Or was DSL merely attempting to recall the exact quote from memory and incorrectly (but innocently) put the words "I left" in Dr. Perry's mouth by mistake?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL WALTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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A very good post, David. This is where the ["Double Oswald"] crowd gets themselves in trouble, taking 3rd and 4th generation hearsay testimony, mistakes, a scribble on 50 year old papers and blow it into a full-blown ridiculous theory.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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And please note how David Lifton has completely ignored these comments repeated below (the first one made by me, and the second uttered by Dr. McClelland, who must be very high on Mr. Lifton's <b>"Liars For The Rest Of Their Lives"</b> list....<br />
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<i>"And please keep in mind the context of the sentence that Dr. Perry is uttering. The word "inviolate" in that part of his 1967 CBS-TV interview doesn't make any sense at all. But "invalid" sure does."</i> <b>-- David R. Von Pein; February 28, 2018</b><br />
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<i>"Some people have even said 'Oh, that tracheostomy has been altered; it's too big a wound'. Well, I can speak for that -- no, it had not been altered. That's exactly the way it was made at Parkland. It's just that people expected it to be smaller."</i> <b>-- Dr. Robert N. McClelland; 2009</b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=25&tab=comments#comment-371252">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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<b>Note to David Von Pein:</b> I've told you before that you, and much of your "argument" about the JFK case, is going to end up in the dustbin of history; and this matter of the throat wound, and "rendered it invalid" versus "inviolate" (and the business of two transcripts) is a perfect example. <br />
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I do not know whether someone at CBS messed with the audio, and created--shall we say--a "modified" audio record (for the benefit of author Steve White), but I can damn well tell you that there are two different transcripts of Part 2 of that show, because I had them both in front of me, back in 1989, and was astonished by this discovery. So you're behaving like a fool if you wish to believe that I made this up.<br />
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June 1989: WHAT HAPPENED AT GRODEN'S HOME....<br />
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First of all, Groden showed us his high quality copy of the CBS interview of Dr. Perry by Eddie Barker. Pat and I, sitting in separate chairs, were watching that intently. Remember: we had just come from interviewing Dr. Stewart, two days before in Tennessee. And Dr. Stewart, repeating what he had told me on the telephone in 1982 (as I recall) and perhaps sensing my skepticism, said something like: <i>"Hell, what Perry told me he said on national TV, in that CBS Special that was broadcast back in 1967! Go watch that TV special. It's right there! You will see he said 'inviolate'!"</i> <br />
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I was polite, but skeptical.<br />
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Then, two days later, we were in Groden's home. We asked Groden if he had that interview, and he said that he did, and we asked if we could see it. He agreed. So that led to the unforgettable scene of Groden putting the cassette into the player, and perhaps even doing something else, while Pat and I watched the show. When we got to that moment in the tape, and when we heard the word "inviolate," <i><b>we both rose up out of our chairs, and exclaimed, "What?!!!"</i></b><br />
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Groden wanted to know what the fuss was all about, and we declined to tell him, because we had not yet interviewed him, on camera, and wanted to have that "first tell" <i>on camera</i>, and <i>unrehearsed</i>. So we just stayed mum, but told him that we had something special, and would tell him what it was once we were on camera.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Am I the only one here with my mouth agape in utter disbelief after reading David Lifton's nonsense about the Malcolm Perry 1967 CBS interview? <br />
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It's just unbelievable how Mr. Lifton seems to want to <i><b>totally ignore</i></b> the context of Dr. Perry's complete statement in the '67 interview.<br />
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Let me see if I can get a few direct answers from Mr. Lifton:<br />
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Even if the word spoken by Dr. Perry in the 1967 CBS interview is "inviolate" (and not "invalid"), how can you possibly argue that such a statement makes ANY sense at all? If Perry actually said "inviolate", he would have, in effect, been saying <i><b>"I cut through the wound which rendered it intact."</i></b> Does that make any kind of sense at all, David L.? <br />
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Or are you implying that <i>other portions</i> of the CBS interview have been altered and "monkeyed" with too? Are you suggesting that the version of the '67 interview that you saw and heard at Robert Groden's house in 1989 did <b>NOT</b> contain these words being spoken by Malcolm Perry just before the sentence that included the disputed word ("invalid/inviolate")?....<br />
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<i><b>"I didn't really concern myself too much with how it happened or why. And for that reason, of course, I didn't think about cutting through the wound..."</i></b><br />
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Because it the above words <b>WERE</b> spoken by Dr. Perry in the Bob Groden VHS tape that you saw, then you must admit that the word "inviolate" being used in Perry's following sentence <b>MAKES NO SENSE</b> at all, but the word "invalid" does make sense, correct?<br />
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Since this discussion has illustrated the possibility of people having different opinions about the word being spoken by Dr. Perry ("inviolate" vs. "invalid") -- and, as I said earlier, even <b>I</b> myself think a good case can be made for <i>either</i> of those words being the correct word spoken by Perry -- I don't find it highly unlikely or unusual (or "sinister") that there are two different transcripts that say two different things. (<b><a href="http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/Weisberg-Subject-Adds%201-23-09/CBS%20News%20Inquiry/CBS%20News%2004%20Part%202.pdf">Click Here</a></b> to see one of the transcripts. That one says "inviolate" [page 9].)<br />
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But, as I also said earlier, since "invalid" is the only one of the two words in question that makes any sense whatsoever when the <b>CONTEXT</b> of Perry's whole statement is evaluated, then this whole discussion can safely be placed into its proper <b>"moot and irrelevant"</b> category forever.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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<b>A side note to David Von Pein:</b> I've told you before that you and much of your views will end up in the dustbin of history. You're obviously a good collector, but your behavior on the Internet has been that of a propagandist, spewing disinformation and misinformation to new generations interested in the JFK case; and, in general, the world at large. You once said that your interest in the JFK case started when you read my book. What a shame that you're going to end up with a tawdry legacy, one marked by so many episodes of such intellectual dishonesty.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Only two words are needed as a reply to Mr. Lifton's dramatic and patently absurd soliloquy above. Those two words:<br />
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<i>Pot</i> and <i>Kettle</i>.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=26&tab=comments#comment-371295">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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DVP: You wrote:<br />
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<i>"Am I the only one here with my mouth agape in utter disbelief after reading David Lifton's nonsense about the Malcolm Perry 1967 CBS interview? It's just unbelievable how Mr. Lifton seems to want to <b>totally ignore</b> the context of Dr. Perry's complete statement in the '67 interview."</i><br />
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<b>My response:</b> It is not in my interest to “ignore” (much less “totally ignore”) the “context of Dr. Perry’s complete statement in the ’67 interview” (which, keep in mind, is the broadcast date. I believe the interview with Barker was conducted in late 1966). My short response to your criticism is: it depends what you mean by “the context”. I am well aware that if one restricts “the context” to that particular sentence in that transcript (or in the audio excerpt) then the statement that Perry said he “rendered it inviolate” makes no sense. <br />
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However, if one takes into account three other times where the word “inviolate” would apply (Dave Stewart, that day and weekend; Breslin, on 11/23, when he said he performed the trach “below” the wound; and then Robert Groden, in 1977 [“I left the wound inviolate”], and if one enlarges one’s vision to encompass the possibility that this tape has been altered to conceal what Perry actually said—especially if he uttered the word “inviolate” in the context in which (for example) he used it with Groden—then the presence of “inviolate” on that audio track can (and should) be viewed as trace evidence of what he said; specifically, that he may well have said, to Barker, something that was either similar (or identical) with what he had said to Stewart, or Breslin (11/23), or--years later (1977)--would say to Robert Groden. (when shown the Bethesda autopsy photo). <i><b>Why is that so difficult to understand?</i></b><br />
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As Groden pointed out (to me, and to Pat V., in 1989) when we interviewed him on camera, and when he described his 1977 meeting with Perry, “inviolate” is a rather unusual word. For it to appear on that audio track suggests to me that he (Perry) used it on that occasion (i.e., at the time of his interview with Eddie Barker), in the same manner in which he used it on at least three other occasions. You (apparently) want to ignore the importance of this word on the grounds that, when preceded by “rendered it”, the sequence of three words ("rendered it inviolate") makes no sense. My reaction is decidedly different. I argue that, by taking into account the other times this word was uttered by Perry, it is not unreasonable to infer that we are dealing with an altered audio record. <br />
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Why do I say "altered audio record"?<br />
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Because: on the occasion that we filmed Groden in 1989, we (all three of us) could readily see that visually, what Dr. Perry was saying was clearly “out of sync” with the sound, and that disparity was our justification (our “probable cause,” if you will) for believing that this audio record had been altered. <b>END OF EXPLANATION</b><br />
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<b>DVP:</b> <i>"Let me see if I can get a few direct answers from Mr. Lifton: Even if the word spoken by Dr. Perry in the 1967 CBS interview is "inviolate" (and not "invalid"), how can you possibly argue that such a statement makes ANY sense at all?"</i><br />
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<b>DSL RESPONSE:</b> I am not arguing that the three-word phrase "rendered it inviolate" makes sense. To the contrary: I agree that--viewed in isolation--it does not make sense. As explained (or at least implied) above: The choice appears to be either: (a) That Perry doesn't know how to use the English language, and is given to making nonsensical utterances; or (b) that the audio record was altered. Based on the other times that he used the word ("inviolate") , it would appear that something is missing. Assuming Perry actually said "inviolate", he used it in the context that, when he performed the tracheotomy, he didn't touch the bullet wound; i.e., he "left the [bullet] wound inviolate."<br />
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And perhaps I should add this other observation: to use the word "inviolate" almost has a defensive quality to it--i.e., that someone had accused Perry of (without meaning to) having altered the wound; and he was responding (in effect) by saying "No, I didn't do that. I left the wound 'inviolate.'"<br />
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Remember: Dr. Dave Stewart told me that there was a problem or kerfuffle (late that night) at Parkland, when Perry was informed (via a phone call from someone at Bethesda, and I'll bet it was SS Agent Kellerman) that there was a "problem" at the autopsy (or "confusion") because of what "he" (i.e., Perry) had done. So he was at pains to deny it; to say, in effect, "No, you're wrong, I didn't do that." And then came: "I left the wound inviolate". As I said, that is my interpretation of the context in which Perry employed (or should I say "deployed") that word. It was in the context of him defending himself against a charge (even if only implied) that what he had done had caused confusion (or "was causing confusion") at the Bethesda end of the line. <b>END OF EXPLANATION</b><br />
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<b>DVP:</b> <i>"If Perry actually said "inviolate", he would have, in effect, been saying "I cut through the wound which rendered it intact." Does that make any kind of sense at all, David L.?"</i><br />
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<b>DSL RESPONSE:</b> No, of course not. I understsand the basic vocabulary, and why these three words ("rendered it inviolate") don't fit together. But again, I refer you to my lengthy answer above. I’m perfectly aware that “rendered it inviolate”—if Perry actually said that—makes no sense. But the word "inviolate" can be heard, quite distinctly, and so the question is: in what context was it uttered?<br />
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I believe that the key to the proper interpretation of that word depends on the context; which, specifically in this case, comes down to focusing on the two words preceding it (“rendered it”) which then results in the three-word phrase: "rendered it inviolate."<br />
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If Perry actually said “rendered it inviolate,” then—agreed—that would make no sense. So how are we to properly interpret this nonsensical phrase? My suggestion: we go to the existing history of how--on other occasions--Perry used that (rather unusual) word.<br />
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Based on other occasions in which he used that (rather unusual) word, I believe it is not unreasonable to infer that he used that word in conjunction with the phrase (which functioned as a prefix, of sorts): "I left the wound..." resulting in the sentence "I left the wound inviolate." It seems to me unreasonable, based on Perry's own "linguistic history" (if I may coin a phrase) to assume that he would use “inviolate” in order to say the opposite--i.e., that by not cutting through the wound, he rendered it "inviolate." What might be plausible (but rather a clumsy use of language) would be if he meant to say that by cutting through the wound, he (by "cutting") had "rendered it invalid." (And that is what the transcript published in the back of the Steve White book states).<br />
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So what is one to make of this linguistic conundrum? It comes down to whether this audio track was tampered with or not. You (apparently) are operating on the assumption that it's genuine, that it was not altered. I react to this linguistic puzzle quite differently. I believe (and all three of us believed, based on the way Perry's lips were moving quite obviously in a manner that made no sense based on the words being uttered) that the tape had been altered. That we were viewing a clumsily altered audio record. And that’s the reason all of us took Groden’s tape to that rather expensive “sound shop” in either Philadelphia or Trenton, spent an hour or two there, and prepared video excerpts to document our suspicions. <br />
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You have responded to our action by saying (in effect): "It wasn't altered. It was your playback machine. Here, let me show you my copy. It plays perfectly." Do you really believe that you producing your "copy"--in 2018--is an answer to what we experienced back in June 1989, and which drove us to go to that audio house, and to spend good money to prepare video samples for further study?<br />
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To recap: I’m not being at all unreasonable in my beliefs. On several occasions, Perry said that he “left the wound inviolate.” He said that to Groden in 1977; and Stewart says that's the word he used on 11/22 and over that weekend. And the next day he told Breslin that he performed the tracheotomy "below" the bullet wound. Note what Perry did not say. He never said, on any of these occasions, that he “rendered it inviolate.” He said he “left it inviolate.” And its precisely for that reason that I suspect that the tape was altered. Moreover, the Steve White book, in its transcript (located at the back) uses the word “invalid,” so that is either an innocent transcriber error (which I doubt) or a deliberate "editorial" correction. In other words, it's my belief that someone (either Eddie Barker or Dan Rather) lobbied with Steve White that "here's what the tape sounds like, so you should correct that transcript you are publishing to reflect what Perry apparently meant to say." That's the sort of thing that I believe took place, and which explains the way the Steve White version of the CBS transcript reads: it is identical in every way to the "official" CBS transcript except for that one phrase(!).<br />
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Let me add one other observation: I do not believe Perry would have simply testified falsely about having made an incision through the throat wound--if he did not--unless, prior to that testimony, he was given private assurances--by "higher authority" that he should testify in that fashion. In other words, I do not believe that Perry would testify falsely in March 1964, before Chief Justice Warren, because of an unpleasant phone call he had received late on the night of November 22, 1963. There must have been more to it than that. In <i>Final Charade</i>, I will offer evidence of who was the "higher authority" and how that occurred in other situations as well.<br />
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Perry's non-response to the unfolding controversy has always intrigued me. He claims he never read any of the books and never followed any aspect of the controversy. More on that, too, in <i>Final Charade</i>. <br />
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<b>DVP:</b> <i>"Or are you implying that other portions of the CBS interview have been altered and "monkeyed" with too? Are you suggesting that the version of the '67 interview that you saw and heard at Robert Groden's house in 1989 did NOT contain these words being spoken by Malcolm Perry just before the sentence that included the disputed word (“invalid/inviolate")?...."</i><br />
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<b>DSL RESPONSE:</b> As I said above, I think that the two-word phrase “rendered it”, preceding the word “inviolate”, results in a three-word phrase that is nonsensical. Hence, my conclusion: unless Perry was uttering nonsense, the audio tape was altered. <b>END OF RESPONSE</b><br />
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<b>DVP [Quoting Dr. Perry]:</b> <i>"I didn't really concern myself too much with how it happened or why. And for that reason, of course, I didn't think about cutting through the wound..."</i><br />
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<b>DSL RESPONSE:</b> I am not sure what to make of this statement. (And by the way: What does Perry mean by "or why"?) The reason I believed it was very likely not true was because Stewart told the Nashville Banner in (I believe) November 1967, that Perry did not have to make an incision. But just maneuvered the trach tube into the throat, using the pre-existing bullet hole as his orifice of entry. I am endeavoring to retrieve that story, as published, in the Nashville Banner. If I obtain a copy, I will post it--or the text of what it says--on this thread. <b>END OF RESPONSE</b><br />
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<b>DVP:</b> <i>"Because it the above words WERE spoken by Dr. Perry in the Bob Groden VHS tape that you saw, then you must admit that the word "inviolate" being used in Perry's following sentence MAKES NO SENSE at all, but the word "invalid" does make sense, correct?"</i><br />
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<b>DSL RESPONSE:</b> Yes, DVP. We've (already) been through all that. Those words do not make sense, and that's precisely why I believe that the audio tape must have been altered. (If someone who knows mathematics is caught on tape saying "Two plus three equals seven", what are we to think?) It all comes down to the validity of the audio tape. Based on the other statements (already cited) that Perry made, I don’t trust the audio tape. You apparently do. I find this odd, but maybe I shouldn't. After all, despite all the Dallas doctors who insist there was a blow-out at the back of the head, you revel in posting a back-of-the head autopsy photograph which, you blithely claim, depicts the reality, whereas just about all the credible Dallas medical witnesses claim it does not. (Sometimes I think you have an affinity for falsified evidence. You just love to roll around in that stuff, the way, on a farm. . . oh, I'd rather not have to complete that sentence.)<br />
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<b>DVP:</b> <i>"Since this discussion has illustrated the possibility of people having different opinions about the word being spoken by Dr. Perry ("inviolate" vs. "invalid") -- and, as I said earlier, even I myself think a good case can be made for either of those words being the correct word spoken by Perry -- I don't find it highly unlikely or unusual (or "sinister") that there are two different transcripts that say two different things."</i><br />
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<b>DSL RESPONSE:</b> I don’t believe this is a matter of interpretation. For example: if Steve White had an audio tape on which he clearly heard (or believed he heard) the word “inviolate,” then he should have said so in his book; he should have spelled out the problem, and discussed it. And not just changed the word (or three words), in his transcript, and said nothing about the implications. That's why I suspect that, one way or another, this was (in effect) "foisted" on him; i.e., that he was deceived. <b>END OF RESPONSE</b><br />
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<b>DVP:</b> <i>"But, as I also said earlier, since "invalid" is the only one of the two words in question that makes any sense whatsoever when the CONTEXT of Perry's whole statement is evaluated, then this whole discussion can safely be placed into its proper "moot and irrelevant" category forever."</i><br />
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<b>DSL RESPONSE:</b> No, DVP, I do not subscribe to your idea. When this whole affair is viewed in proper context, then (if we had a Special Prosecutor in this case) that Prosecutor would have asked (behind closed doors, of course): Who the heck altered the body? (And given the plethora of evidence that the body was covertly intercepted and altered, that you, and your peculiar ideas that nothing is wrong with the evidence would be subject to considerable ridicule.)<br>
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I'll tell you what such a (hypothetical) Special Prosecutor would be interested in: such an investigation would be interested in the audio tape of my two conversations with Humes, on November 2 and November 3, 1966; and especially the second one where, confronting him with the Sibert and O'Neill report about "surgery of the head area" (which he knew nothing about, until that day), he exclaimed "I'm not responsible for their reports!" and then, just a bit later in that same conversation, he exclaimed: "I'd like to know by whom it was done. . and when . . and where!" (See Chapter 8 of B.E., where all this is described in detail).<br>
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Surely such an investigation might have asked Humes: "Commander Humes, why did you say those things? And what did you mean by "it" when you blurted out, with considerable vehemence, "I'd like to know by whom it was done, and when, and where?!" So that's the context in which to properly view the possible falsification of this particular audio record. <br />
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So no, DVP, I do not agree. Perry's use of clumsy language cannot be discarded or set aside in the manner that you are wont to do. To proceed in that fashion, you have to ignore the multiple occasions in which Perry used the word “inviolate,”—preceded by the words “I left the wound” etc. What you seem to he doing, DVP, is cherry-picking when it comes to context; to choosing the context (or “defining the context” if I may coin a term) in such a way that it supports your interpretation. <br />
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I say: Let’s enlarge the context and take into account the full picture; and that includes all the times that Perry used the word “inviolate” to fully understand what he meant when he used that word. And also, to understand the (wider) context, at Bethesda that night, in which this problem developed. <b>END OF RESPONSE</b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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To David Lifton:<br />
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Thank you for your (ultra)-detailed reply above.<br />
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Some additional thoughts....<br />
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Since you are pretty sure at this point that Dr. Perry's 1966/1967 CBS interview has been "altered", then can you tell me WHY the people who altered it would have wanted the end result of such fakery to be a totally nonsensical statement being uttered by Dr. Malcolm Perry? <br />
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If "they" can seamlessly alter the audio/video of that interview, then why didn't they replace what you believe to be the <b>KEY WORD</b> in the interview ("inviolate") with something else? But you're saying that even though the tape of the interview was "altered", the alterers decided <b>NOT</b> to remove the one and only word that is creating the big controversy here—"inviolate". Is that correct, DSL? (This reminds me of the argument from the people who think the Zapruder Film has also been altered, even though the film alterers decided to LEAVE IN the "back and to the left" footage of JFK's head movement after the fatal shot, which is, of course, the MAIN reason why so many conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy in the first place. Ironic, huh?)<br />
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Since you are convinced that Perry did NOT cut through JFK's throat wound at all, then that must mean that the following portion of Perry's interview is a portion that you think was "altered", right?....<br />
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<i><b>"...cutting through the wound..."</i></b><br />
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Or do you think that Dr. Perry was in a <i>lying</i> mood (or mode) when he uttered the above sentence, but then he turned off his "lying mode" a couple of seconds later when the word "inviolate" came out of his mouth?<br />
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Plus....<br />
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As anyone with a working computer can easily see when looking at the video below (not the audio clip I created, but the FULL VIDEO version of Dr. Perry's CBS interview, which I've linked to previously in this discussion as well), the audio and video portions of that interview are NOT "out of sync" at all. The syncing is just fine, and we can SEE Dr. Perry's mouth form the words that he is uttering. We can SEE him speaking the words <i><b>"cutting through the wound"</i></b> and <i><b>"rendered"</i></b> and the key word which begins with the letters <i><b>"inv..."</i></b>.<br />
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Therefore, David L., how can you still maintain that the video/audio has been "altered"? Do you REALLY think that someone in circa 1966-1967 was able to perfectly and seamlessly "alter" Dr. Perry's words <b>AND ON-CAMERA MOUTH MOVEMENTS</b> so as to fool all Americans who were watching that CBS News special that night in June of '67? <br />
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Come on, David, you can't seriously believe that tape was altered....can you? (Especially since, as I mentioned before, the <b>END RESULT</b> of such "alteration" would be a statement being made by Dr. Perry that could only make him look like a fool and an idiot.)<br />
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An additional note (just “for the record”)....<br />
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Prior to getting involved in this discussion this week, I had watched and listened to that <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGOYUc1cXFjQ2JGcGc/view">1967 CBS interview</a></b> with Dr. Perry at least a dozen times in my lifetime (probably more), and when it gets to the part where Perry says that "inv..." word we're now discussing, I have never <b>once</b> thought that Perry was saying the word "inviolate" there. Not once. I always have interpreted that utterance as being the word <b>"invalid"</b>. Every time.<br />
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Now, perhaps Mr. Lifton will fire back at me with something like: <i>Well, DVP, since the word "invalid" is a word that makes the most sense in that sentence, then you probably have trained your ears to hear what you think makes the most sense. But Perry really said "inviolate" there.</i><br />
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Okay. That might be a fair argument for someone like David Lifton to make. But I have a hard time believing that you, DSL, are so stubborn in your beliefs that you would refuse to admit that there's even a <b>possibility</b> that the "inv..." word being spoken by Dr. Perry in the CBS interview could be the word "invalid" instead of "inviolate". You don't think the word could <i>possibly</i> be "invalid"? There's no chance of that at all in your mind? Really? Listen again. Here's the video (again):<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
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Let's also have a look at what Dr. Perry told the <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/arrbpark.htm">ARRB</a></b> in August of 1998 concerning the tracheotomy he performed on President Kennedy (emphasis is my own):<br />
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<b>MR. GUNN --</b> "Could you describe about how big the tracheostomy wound was that you cut?"<br />
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<b>DR. PERRY --</b> "I've been asked this a lot. Of course, some of them said it was too big for a surgeon, but my reply to that was that it was big enough. There are only two medical emergencies, airway and bleeding. Everything else can wait. This just couldn't wait, and <i><b>I had no idea how big it was</b></i>. I made it big enough. At that time we used old metal flange tracheotomy tubes and [they were?] quite large with a cuff on them. And when <b><i>I made the incision through the wound</b></i>, I made it big enough that I could look to either side of the trachea."<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=27&tab=comments#comment-371388">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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As for David Von Pein, much of his commentary will be proven false, and unnecessarily insulting; and, as I have said, he and his views will, to a large extent, end up in what Leon Trotsky called "the dustbin of history."<br />
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But (and as I have also noted), DVP is a good collector, and we should all give him credit for that. Bottom line: DVP is very good at "collecting the dots." He just isn't particularly adept at "connecting" them.<br />
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Stay tuned. . .<br />
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P.S.: In my remarks (above), I am referring to the way DVP has treated my work. As for DVP's ongoing <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/dvp-vs-dieugenio-complete-series.html">"debate" with DiEugenio</a></b>, that's an entirely different matter. More often than not, his arguments in that debate have significant validity.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON ALSO <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=27&tab=comments#comment-371362">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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DVP has repeatedly asserted that his copy [of the CBS interview with Dr. Perry] shows no audio/video disparity, as if that is the final word. He even goes so far as to imply that the problem was, perhaps, Groden's equipment. None of this is valid, and here's why:<br />
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a) Our work was done with a high quality copy (Groden "obtains" only the best) and on his high quality and very well maintained equipment. (He will eat dog food for a week (if he has to), but he will buy the best equipment available.)<br />
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b) We studied the "problem" at a professional audio house, and on high quality equipment--and it was obviously present on that equipment, too; it was readily visible. Think about it: how could we record "video samples" if it wasn't present?<br />
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c) Our source was Groden's copy, obtained back in the period 1967-1975, or thereabouts, and there was no Internet then.<br />
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d) DVP's copy, as far as I know, was made years later, and in the "age of the Internet" and very likely was downloaded, from some site, via the Internet.<br />
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(And I'd like DVP to either confirm that this is so (and perhaps specify the site of origin, and the year of the download), or if he actually purchased a tape from a CBS library, to provide details (i.e., the year, the transfer modality, etc).) <br />
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What I can say for certain is that all of us were dealing with this problem, and the cause wasn't the equipment in Groden's home. And by "all of us" I mean Pat (who is an audio expert), myself (an engineering graduate and a former Ham Radio operator [K2HKC], who has built transmitters, etc); and our film crew, who had competent technicians, and their own equipment. <br />
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So one either has to entertain the notion that Groden's original tape was defective, at that particular point (and <b><i>only</i></b> at that particular point), in the entire program; or that there has been an "improvement" in the original from which Groden's copy was made, and the time that DVP purchased his copy from CBS, or made his download, if he was able to do it more recently, via the Internet.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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It's much more likely that the audio/video on Groden's <b><i>videotape</i></b> was out of sync, rather than the problem being due to any of Groden's VHS <b><i>players</i></b> (or any other playback devices that were being used to play the tape at any other location). <br />
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And it's very likely that Groden's <b>ENTIRE TAPE</b> was out of sync, as opposed to JUST the small excerpt with Dr. Perry. Or, if not the <i>entire</i> tape, it seems likely that at least a larger portion than <i>just</i> the Perry interview segment was/is out of sync.<br />
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Here's what I said earlier on the out-of-sync matter (just for the record--again)....<br />
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<i>"It's possible that Robert Groden's taped version of the 1967 interview <b>is</b> out of sync for some reason. That's quite possible. But that certainly doesn't have to indicate any "monkeying around" with the original video. Any number of technical things could happen that can result in audio going out of sync with video on VHS tapes, DVDs, digital files, etc. I've had that happen to my video files all the time, and it's annoying as hell. But I don't think it has anything to do with somebody trying to "monkey around" with my files. It's just something that happens in the "A/V" world."</i> <b>-- DVP; 3/2/2018</b><br />
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After looking into this "syncing" issue a little more today, I discovered that there are, indeed, copies of Part 2 of the CBS special (<i>"A CBS News Inquiry: The Warren Report"</i>) that are out of sync on the Internet. <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8VmRC3-lp8">This YouTube video</a></b> provides one example of a poor-quality (only 240p) version of Part 2 of the 4-part program (skip up to 22:40 to see the controversial segment with Dr. Perry), and you can see that the video portion is running just a fraction of a second ahead of the audio. (And, btw, the other three parts in the CBS series that were uploaded by the same person at YouTube are also out of sync in the same manner as Part 2.)<br />
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And since David L. asked for the background data and statistics concerning where I obtained my copy of the 1967 CBS program, I will offer up that dry-as-dust and boring information now:<br />
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In 2002, I was in the process of obtaining a lot of JFK-related VHS tapes and DVDs, and I started trading some of these materials (by snail mail) with a friend who then lived in Illinois. One of the items that I obtained in a trade with this individual was a VHS cassette containing the 1967 four-part CBS "Warren Report" series. <br />
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But, unfortunately, the four parts that I acquired in 2002 on VHS tape were in very poor quality (recorded in EP mode) and were not in color. Well, actually, I think the source material <i>was</i> in color, but due to the fact the tapes had been copied so many times, the quality had deteriorated so much that the color was almost completely lost and washed away due to degradation. So the tapes I got back then were, essentially, in black-and-white.<br />
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So I wanted to get some better quality copies for my files and websites. And in 2011, I found some good color copies via another e-mail acquaintance (named Mike, who maintains <b><a href="http://youtube.com/JFKBallistics/videos">this YouTube channel</a></b>). But the copies I obtained from him at that time weren't on VHS tape or DVD. These were digital computer files (in the Windows Media Video [.wmv] file format).<br />
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And so I arranged for Mike to send me the files via a file sharing service called <b><a href="http://adrive.com">ADrive.com</a></b>. He sent me the download links by e-mail, one at a time, and I then downloaded the files to my computer in February and early March of 2011, where the files still reside today. (Although the computer I have now is not the exact same one that I had in 2011 when I first downloaded the files. My current Dell computer is one that I obtained [via Amazon] on October 30, 2012, which, ironically, was the exact same day that my brother travelled to Dealey Plaza in Dallas and took <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B66zFAvTgxxIYlE2bC1IMTJVOXM/view">this video</a></b> and <b><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/11/kennedy-gallery-267.html">these still pictures</a></b> of the Plaza. That's way more info than anyone needed, but I just threw it in as a friendly bonus.) :-)<br />
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Here are some of the e-mails I sent to the person (Mike) who ultimately sent me the high-quality copies of the CBS program:<br />
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<i>"Would there be any way to do the '67 Warren Report special that way (from your raw wmv files)? I never told you this, but the second batch of DVDs of the Warren Report CBS show that you were kind enough to send me last year would not play or transfer properly, so I have still not been able to get a good color copy of that program for any of my video websites. I was wondering how big your wmv file(s) is on that show? Or do you still have the wmv saved? I have no idea, but maybe U-Drive can support it."</i> <b>-- DVP; February 19, 2011</b><br />
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<i>"Thanks a lot, Mike! It downloaded perfectly. A very good-looking color copy indeed. I am grateful to you for providing it."</i> <b>-- DVP; February 19, 2011</b><br />
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<i>"Hi Mike, Sorry to hear about more trouble with the CBS files. Damn things. It's a curse! I'm not meant to have them, I guess. It MUST be a conspiracy organized by Jim Garrison's ghost! It's obvious! :)"</i> <b>-- DVP; March 1, 2011</b><br />
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<i>"Hi Mike, FYI---I've now successfully downloaded all 4 parts of the CBS program that you provided. Thank you very much for your persistent efforts in making usable copies of these programs available to me (and to others through Duncan's forum, and your site too). I greatly appreciate your efforts. The CBS shows look and sound very good too. Many regards, David V.P."</i> <b>-- DVP; March 7, 2011</b><br />
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THE SYNCING....<br />
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Now, since the four parts of the CBS special that my e-mail acquaintance sent me in 2011 are "in sync" with respect to the video matching the audio tracks, one of three things happened (and I've been trying as hard as I can to recall which of these three things occurred, but unfortunately I cannot remember):<br />
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1. The files that my e-mail associate sent to me in 2011 were <i>already "in sync"</i> <b>before</b> he ever sent them to me.<br />
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2. The files were out-of-sync and my e-mail associate, Mike, fixed the problem with video editor software prior to sending me the "fixed" files.<br />
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3. The files were out-of-sync even <i>after</i> I received them from my e-mail associate and then <b>I</b> myself fixed the syncing problem using the video editor on my computer [Windows Movie Maker] in 2011. (And such a glitch is quite simple to fix with even a low-end video editor like Windows Movie Maker [WMM]. I've fixed such audio problems on many of my videos with the WMM software, mainly because having the video and audio out of sync is extremely aggravating and annoying, IMO. So lots of times I will just go to WMM and fix it myself. But I can't remember whether I did that for the 1967 CBS programs or not.)<br />
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My best guess:<br />
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#2 is the correct answer to this mini-mystery. #1 is also very possible as well; but #3 is the least likely option. And the reason I say that is because if I myself had fixed the syncing glitch, I almost certainly would have also created custom "title cards" at the same time for each of the 4 parts of the CBS special. And my copies of the four-part special [linked below] do not have any text titles on them at all (which would indicate "Part 1", "Part 2", etc.).<br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/cbs-news-inquiry-warren-report.html"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qmWHqmA99wo/U0D5oYwGXUI/AAAAAAAAy2E/1ESLxsCttGk/s530/A+CBS+News+Inquiry--The+Warren+Report+(1967)+Logo.png"></a><br />
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END RESULT....<br />
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The video and audio are <b><i>in sync</b></i> for my copy of the 1967 CBS interview with Dr. Malcolm Perry. Regardless of WHO it was who fixed the audio glitch, we can see by way of Perry's mouth movements via <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGOYUc1cXFjQ2JGcGc/view">an "in sync" copy</a></b> of the segment of the program in question that Dr. Perry <b>IS SAYING WHAT THE AUDIO TRACK INDICATES HE IS SAYING</b>.<br />
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In a nutshell --- It is my opinion that the "monkeying" and "altering" that David Lifton alleges with respect to the CBS tape never happened at all, and could have easily been disproven even back in 1989 (at the "audio house" in Philadelphia or Trenton that David Lifton spoke of in an earlier post) if someone would have taken the time to "line up" the video with the out-of-sync audio, which is something (as I stated before) that I myself have done with "glitchy" video files many times in the past ten years. And I'm certainly no "tech wizard" when it comes to computers.<br />
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Also....<br />
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I'm wondering if <b><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G6SGTSC">this on-demand commercial DVD-R</a></b> release of the "CBS Inquiry" program (which came out in late 2013) suffers from any syncing issues? I don't own that DVD product. I never felt a need to purchase it, since I already have a high-quality version of all four parts on my computer already, with the original 1967 CBS-TV commercials included as well. In looking through the few reviews for the commercial DVD at Amazon.com, nobody mentions anything about any audio glitches, but that doesn't mean there aren't any. However, in the video excerpts of the program provided on that Amazon page I just linked above, the audio and video are perfectly synchronized.<br />
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[END OF TEDIOUS ESSAY]<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
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Question for David Lifton....<br />
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Why do you think it is that Robert Groden chose not to write a <b>single word</b> in his 1993 book <b><i><a href="http://the-killing-of-a-president.blogspot.com">"The Killing Of A President"</a></i></b> about the bombshell revelations that Dr. Malcolm Perry supposedly revealed to him in 1977?<br />
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According to the things I'm reading in this discussion, Perry told Groden in 1977 multiple things that should make a dedicated conspiracy believer like Robert Groden turn cartwheels over --- e.g., Perry saying he didn't cut through JFK's throat wound at all, plus the shaking of Perry's head from side to side in disgust as he was shown the <i>Stare of Death</i> autopsy photo, with Perry (allegedly) saying the wound in the photograph didn't look like the tracheotomy incision he made on the President's body on 11/22/63.<br />
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Those things should have been <i>centerpieces</i> of Mr. Groden's major "30th Anniversary" book release in 1993, wouldn't you think? And yet not only doesn't Groden say a single word in TKOAP about these things, he actually <b>endorses</b> the notion that Dr. Perry <b>DID</b> make his trach directly through the bullet hole in President Kennedy's neck. Here's what Groden wrote on page 76 of TKOAP:<br />
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<b><i>"The President's throat wound has long been the subject of controversy. Was it an entrance or exit wound? Few medical personnel viewed the wound in its original state before it was obliterated by a tracheotomy procedure."</i></b> -- Robert J. Groden; Page 76 of <i>"The Killing Of A President"</i> (1993)<br />
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It's utterly inconceivable to me that Bob Groden would endorse in his major book release of 1993 the fact that Dr. Perry <i>did</i>, indeed, perform the trach incision through the bullet hole in JFK's throat if he had direct information to the contrary that came out of the mouth of <i>Dr. Perry himself</i> while the two men were standing face-to-face in Dr. Perry's office sixteen years earlier.<br />
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What possible explanation could there be for Groden not shouting from the rooftops (and in his 1993 book), <b><i>"Dr. Perry told me he never cut through the wound!"</i></b>, if Perry <i>had</i>, in fact, said that very thing to Groden's face in the year 1977? Did Groden just <i>forget</i> about his bombshell meeting with Perry in '77?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=28&tab=comments#comment-371570">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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DVP:<br />
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Your post marks the first time I have ever been aware of what Groden said on the subject of the throat wound (and the issue of the tracheotomy) in his 1993 book (The Killing of a President) which I always viewed, more or less, as a “picture book” and never really paid much attention to the rather skimpy [text]. But now I realize that that assessment was incorrect, at least insofar as this particular issue (the tracheotomy) is concerned. <br />
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In any event, the question you have posted is interesting and truly important, and deserves a thoughtful response. .... Whatever I say on the subject will end up being somewhat speculative because it necessarily deals with the psychology and general behavior of Groden, who I knew very well, and for a period of some 20 (or more) years starting around 1971. All of this is discussed in great detail in my 100-plus page essay “Pig on a Leash” (addressing issues of authenticity in the area of the Zapruder film, which I do not wish to deal with in this post), and which appears in the Fetzer anthology “Hoax” (2003). The relevance of that essay is not the Z film, but the detailed discussion of my 20-year history with Groden (1971-1991, approx.) and what I learned from that experience about him personally. <br />
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In the course of a quick file review, I came across the April 1990 Federal Express Receipt for the JFK autopsy photos which I sent to Groden at that time. That’s how he obtained the autopsy photos—from me. I gave them to him, gratis, because I never wanted to be accused of selling those materials to anyone for profit. Groden then promptly turned around and sold the photos to a tabloid (the National Enquirer, as I recall) for $50,000. The contract for that transaction was unearthed by a JFK researcher, provided to me, and I provided it to the lawyers involved in the OJ Trial. This led to a national broadcast in which TV journalist Nancy Grace was exclaiming, in outrage, “Robert Groden? Groden sold the autopsy photos to the National Enquirer!” etc.<br />
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I bring this up because that was just one example of the Groden story. In the period 1976-1979 (approx.), the HSCA employed Groden as a consultant, giving him access to an array of precious (and priceless) original materials. Today, both the original Nix film and the original Muchmore film are simply gone.<br />
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When the ARRB commenced its investigation (1994-1998), I was in very heavy contact with the two top lawyers, Marwell and Jeremy Gunn, since one of their jobs was to pursue the matter of the Zapruder film, in the area of authenticity. Through telephone and written communication, I made very clear my views that Robert Groden showed all the signs of kleptomania. Of particular importance is a 12 page 1996 letter (with numerous attachments) that I sent to Gunn, and which, no doubt, was useful in connection with the subpoena to Groden. During that sworn deposition, Groden denied, under oath, ever possessing various items that the signed contract that I provided (as an attachment) showed that he had sold (copies of) to me in June 1989, for the sum of $5,000!<br />
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All of this bears on the credibility of Groden, and his relationship with me. When I visited him at his home in late 1982, and he realized (because I showed him) that I had crystal clear black and white copies of the autopsy photographs, he was astounded, and green with envy. When (in 1978/79) he set out to write his “minority” report on the authenticity of the photos to the HSCA, I told him that I did not believe the pictures were photo composites, but that any fakery had been achieved by “reconstruction”–late at night, and at the time of autopsy. Groden believed otherwise, and showed me a draft of his report. It was poorly written, and I told him so. I said that although I didn’t agree with his view, it should be rewritten if it were to have any credibility. So I rewrote the part of his report dealing with the fakery of the autopsy photos, and which can be found (as I recall) in Volume 6 of the HSCA volumes. (I wrote the part of that report dealing with the back of the head).<br />
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Throughout that period, and when I would visit Groden at his home (then in Hopelawn, New Jersey) I concealed from him the entire content of my book, <i>Best Evidence</i>, which was contracted for in December 1978, and published in January 1981. I did so because he behaved like a juvenile “collector,” and I sensed that he couldn’t be trusted. I remember that one of his reactions, after publication, came down to this: “Why didn’t you tell me [about this]?” etc.<br />
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Do I believe what Robert Groden told me (and Pat Valentino)—on camera—in a lengthy and very detailed interview in June 1989, about what happened when he visited Dr. Perry in New York in 1977, and showed him (an HSCA copy) of the face-up (stare-of-death) autopsy photo? Absolutely. And remember (and as I believe I’ve already written on this thread): I spoke with the Baltimore reporter who accompanied Groden, and he confirmed Groden’s account. He remembered Perry shaking his head from side to side and saying that wasn’t the way he left it.<br />
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Did Groden play for us the Barker/Perry interview, and did both Pat and I hear “inviolate”? Yes, without question.<br />
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Was there a problem with the lip-sync etc., and did we all (Groden included) go to a audio house in Trenton (or Philadelphia) and give it further study? Yes, just as I described previously on this thread.<br />
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And did we interview Groden, extensively, and in detail, about his New York City visit with Dr. Perry? Yes, absolutely. On camera. And did Groden say what Perry said, and is it what I’ve reported? Yes.<br />
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So now, back to your question, DVP.<br />
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<b>What happened between 1989 and 1993?</b><br />
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What happened such that—in writing the text for his 1993 book (probably written in early 1993)–Groden ignored what he told us (on camera, in 1989) and set forth (instead) the “conventional” version of Dr. Perry and the tracheotomy?<br />
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What happened was the relationship with the late Harrison Livingstone and the publication of <i>High Treason</i>.<br />
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Groden could not accept the fact that the throat wound was altered—on JFK’s body—without endorsing one of the major tenets of <i>Best Evidence</i> (see Chapter 11 of B.E., on the changed length and character of the trach incision, Dallas vs. Bethesda). Again, please note: Groden’s entire adult life was devoted to the thesis that the photographs (of the body) were altered—the photographs, but <i>not</i> the body itself. (At least this is the case with regard to JFK’s head wounds). <br />
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<b>So now let’s go to 1993</b> ... Groden is writing some text for his “Killing of a President” book, and has had this big “Ooops!” moment: He cannot say that the throat wound was altered, without undermining his own thesis that it was “the pictures” that were altered, and <i><b>not</i></b> the body (!). (Livingstone has a similar problem. Much more of a researcher than Groden. As I learned, decades later, from examining correspondence in the Weisberg files at the Hood library, Livingstone personally interviewed the witnesses I did, confirms what they said, privately admits in private correspondence that I am correct, but continues to attack me in public, in the most vicious terms!) <br />
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<b>GRODEN TODAY....(and for many years since the movie JFK)...</b><br />
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So Robert Groden now makes his “home” on the Grassy knoll, selling his wares, and using a car battery to run a Visa and Mastercard machine. And if someone asks him about DSL and B.E., he often parrots Livingstone’s line, and says that I am a fraud. I know because I periodically check, when friends of mine visit Dallas (and, of course, the Dealey Plaza area, where Groden can often be found, encamped with his wares).<br />
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He has been arrested over 50 times, and has a lawyer who has broken some new legal ground, at least in Dallas, in this area—or so I am told.<br />
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Finally (of course), Groden is now a card-carrying member of the “Hate DSL” and “Hate Best Evidence” club, featuring Dr. Cyril Wecht and his pal, Gary Aguilar (and I could name others), with supporting roles played by someone like DiEugenio, whose claim to fame was his uncritical belief that Garrison was the be-all and end all, who still believes that JFK and his brother didn't know about the CIA's assassination plots; and---apparently--doesn't have the intellectual capacity to understand that autopsy falsification (via body alteration) could be conceived of (and planned) before the fact.<br />
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From his website, DiEugenio often chimes in, using his site to launch similar snide (and sometimes nasty) commentary about me and my work (often from one of his “writers”; and often "signed" [i.e., as if written by DiEugenio, when it was not)]. DiEug--who prides himself in saying that he has me on <b><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=27&tab=comments#comment-371522">"ignore"</a></b> (an accomplishment in which a small mind can take some pride)--is reasonably good when it comes to issues like Vietnam, but doesn’t understand the medical evidence and won’t discuss it, usually referring people to Aguilar (who probably listens carefully, when he is on his meds). <br />
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My last conversation [with] Aguilar (who has a barely controlled temper, and often flies off the handle), occurred in March 2000 (yes, that long ago). It ended with Aguilar having the telephone equivalent of "road rage" and in a screaming cursing tirade, like an out-of-control child, with his multiple uses of the “F” word, directed at me personally and screaming that no, he didn't believe the body was altered; saying that I wasn't even a good Jew, and if I appeared at "his" hospital, where a JFK gathering was scheduled to take place, he would have me arrested and thrown out by security, if I dared to open my mouth. Nice guy, whose temperament has perhaps improved, over time.<br />
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An interesting question, for those who enjoy the theoretical, is whom would you rather have to dinner: DVP, Aguilar, or DiEugenio? (I'll take DVP, anytime. At least I know I'll be able to finish dinner, using my knife and fork to eat with, and not to defend myself; and maybe I'll get the chicken for free!).<br />
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Have I now explained the situation, DVP?<br />
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I never really expected to write all this out, in this detail. But perhaps it's necessary to explain what is going on here. To properly appreciate one of the major splits in the JFK research movement. And, finally, to properly depict Robert Groden–in context. And to attempt to do so in a reasonably fair and accurate manner, and without—as the saying goes—throwing out the baby with the bathwater.<br />
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And there is a lot of bathwater.<br />
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DSL<br />
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3/6/2018 - 1:05 PM PST<br />
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Orange County, California<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thank you, David Lifton, for yet another very detailed and interesting response. The things you have said about Robert Groden's possible reason(s) for not wanting to include in his book (TKOAP) the things that Dr. Perry allegedly told him in 1977 do make some degree of sense to me, but it's still a bit difficult for me to believe that a major conspiracy author like Bob Groden would have been willing to just <i>ignore</i> a series of allegedly contradictory statements being made by one of the doctors who had his hands on President Kennedy in the emergency room in Dallas. <br />
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Because even if Mr. Groden was <i>not</i> a believer in your "Body Alteration" theory, I would think he still could have found a way to utilize Dr. Perry's "bombshell" 1977 statements to his advantage in order to promote the two <i>main</i> issues that Groden advocates --- "conspiracy" and "cover-up". Instead, Groden just decided to drop the whole matter and sweep Perry's statements (which are statements that Perry supposedly made to Groden <i>in person</i>) under the rug<i><b>?!?</i></b> That seems very unlikely, in my opinion.<b>*</b><br />
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<b>*</b> I'm not saying your explanation for Groden's reticence is totally wrong, but knowing of Mr. Groden's <i>passion</i> for spreading the "conspiracy" word (as I do), Bob's total silence in his 1993 book concerning this <i>tracheotomy bombshell</i> seems mighty strange to me.<br />
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David L., I have enjoyed reading your thoughts on various matters concerning the JFK case this week [in late February and early March of 2018]. And these discussions have provided some excellent additional material for my own archives of "JFK Assassination Arguments" at my website. So I thank you, DSL, for that. <br />
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But I have to also say that the many things you have said in this discussion have not caused me to be swayed a single bit into believing in <i>any</i> kind of "conspiracy" or "cover-up" or "alteration of videotapes" relating to Dr. Perry or any other part of the investigation into John F. Kennedy's murder. (But I'm sure that doesn't come as much of a shock to you.) :-)<br />
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Yes, there's an apparent discrepancy with respect to some of the things that Dr. Malcolm Perry said to various people over the years concerning the tracheotomy procedure that Perry performed on President Kennedy's body at Parkland Hospital in Dallas on 11/22/63. I cannot deny that discrepancy. But I also have a difficult time believing that if Dr. Perry was <i><b>so committed to telling such blatant lies to the public</b></i> regarding the details surrounding the tracheotomy (e.g., the "lies" you think he told to the Warren Commission, the ARRB, and to the CBS-TV audience in 1967), then I have to ask myself: <i>Why on Earth would this alleged LIAR be willing to tell multiple people—<b>including AUTHOR Robert J. Groden!</b>—something totally different from what he had said (i.e., <b>lied about</b>) numerous times in public and in his Warren Commission testimony?</i><br />
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Didn't he know that Groden was a <b>WRITER OF BOOKS</b> on the JFK assassination? And didn't Perry know that his "confession" (so to speak) about leaving the wound "inviolate" would likely end up being printed <i>somewhere</i>, and that such a "confession" would be totally at odds with what he told the Warren Commission and CBS News years earlier?<br />
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In other words, it's my opinion (which you might regard as silly as all get out) that even <i>with</i> such "discrepancies" existing in the record when comparing Dr. Perry's public vs. private statements, there <b>MUST</b> be, in my view, an explanation that can reconcile those discrepancies without having to resort to this conclusion: <i><b>Dr. Perry lied</i></b>.<br />
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As my very good friend and fellow "LNer" Jean Davison said (which is one of many <b><a href="http://quoting-common-sense.blogspot.com">“Common Sense” quotes</a></b> by Jean that I have archived over the last several years):<br />
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<i>"Although the solutions proposed by [David] Lifton and [Michael] Eddowes are more farfetched than some, they use the same style of reasoning found in other conspiracy books. All these theories are based on unexplained discrepancies in the record. .... Alternative explanations and the overall pattern of the evidence are given little attention, if any."</i> <b>-- Jean Davison; Pages 274-275 of <i><a href="http://oswalds-game.blogspot.com">"Oswald's Game"</a></i> (1983)</b><br />
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In summary....<br />
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I enjoy discussing the JFK case with David S. Lifton. It's just a shame that all of that writing talent, and all of that detailed knowledge about the JFK case, and all of that research skill, and all of that decades worth of effort on the part of Mr. Lifton has been so misdirected and misguided (IMO). For, I ask with all sincerity, how is a reasonable human being supposed to take seriously a person who says things like this to them?:<br />
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<i>"You might want to pick up and reread those sections of 'Best Evidence' which deal with the design of the sophisticated strategic deception which, I believe, was used in conjunction with the Kennedy assassination, in order to hide the true source of the shots, and point a false evidentiary vector in the direction of the so-called “sniper’s nest”. .... That is what Chapter 14, titled “Trajectory Reversal”, is all about. It is not titled “Strategic Deception.” Rather, it is titled “Trajectory Reversal: Blueprint for Deception” and I have no doubt it will stand the test of time. Long after Mr. Bugliosi's tome is viewed as an anachronism, the last hurrah of someone trying to defend the “Oswald-did-it-all-by-himself” thesis, “Trajectory Reversal” will be properly viewed (i.e., ultimately recognized) as the genuine blueprint for a strategic deception utilized in connection with the Dallas shooting, and the best description of what actually happened. (Which it is.) It is why the media reported one thing, whereas the President’s body provided evidence of something quite different."</i> <b> -- David S. Lifton; <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/17411-discussing-the-mindset-of-conspiracy-theorists/?page=6&tab=comments#comment-220835">March 6, 2011</a></b><br />
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<i>"If the President's body was altered, then this was a body-centric plot; that is, it was a plot not just to murder President Kennedy by shooting him, but then (i.e., afterwards) to alter the medical facts of the case (i.e., alter the wounds, remove bullets, etc.) -- all of that done to change the story of how JFK died. To alter the "medical facts" and thus change the "legal facts" as to how JFK died for the FBI, and for any subsequent investigation, whether it was a presidential commission, a congressional investigation, whatever. It would not matter. Viewed that way, this was a plot "with a built-in cover-up"--and was akin to a piece of domestic espionage."</i> <b>-- David S. Lifton; <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130509181337/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,8312.msg242150.html">May 4, 2013</a></b><br />
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<i>"There was an attempt to alter the audio on that tape</i> [of the 1967 CBS News program]<i>. A clumsy attempt, which resulted in a tape (at that point) where Perry's lip movements are clearly out of sync with the audio track."</i> <b>-- David S. Lifton; <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/?page=24&tab=comments#comment-371178">March 2, 2018</a></b><br />
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The above quotes provide just three examples (among many) of the type of highly improbable and bizarre theories that Mr. Lifton has endorsed since the mid-1960s. And in order for me to place my faith (or belief) in either of those theories—particularly the first one—I would have no choice but to toss all of my common sense out the nearest window. <br />
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Here's what I said five years ago:<br />
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<i>"The JFK case has a very curious effect on certain people (such as David Lifton of Los Angeles) -- They treat the evidence as if it's something that needs to be <b>molded</b> and <b>crafted</b> into something that it is not. In plainer terms, they simply IGNORE all the evidence of <b><a href="http://oswald-is-guilty.blogspot.com">Lee Harvey Oswald's lone guilt</a></b> in the assassination of the 35th President, and they expect the masses to fall at their feet and give thanks to these expert "researchers" like Mr. Lifton who have literally made a mockery out of the true evidence in this case."</i> <b>-- David Von Pein; <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130509233347/http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,8312.msg242157.html#msg242157">May 4, 2013</a></b><br />
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The late <b><a href="http://vincent-bugliosi.blogspot.com">Vincent Bugliosi</a></b> summed things up pretty well too, when he said this:<br />
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<i>"One theory that perhaps "takes the cake" is set forth by conspiracy author David Lifton in his book "Best Evidence". .... One could safely say that David Lifton took folly to an unprecedented level. And considering the monumental foolishness of his colleagues in the conspiracy community, that's saying something."</i> <br />
<b>-- Vincent T. Bugliosi; Pages 1057 and 1066 of <i><a href="http://reclaiminghistory.blogspot.com">"Reclaiming History"</a></i> (2007)</b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICAH MILETO SAID:</span></b><br />
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I thought Groden did mention the Perry interview in <i>Killing of a President</i>? The book <i>From Parkland to Bethesda</i> cites it as such....<br />
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Dr. Malcolm Oliver “Mac” Perry, Attending Surgeon (deceased 12/5/2009)<br />
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1979 interview with Robert Groden [“BE”, p. 706; Groden’s “TKOAP”, p. 77 (includes photo of Perry)]---photos of neck and head wound not as he remembered them to be: his trach was “neater”, and not the “larger, expanded” one seen in the pictures. Also, the head wound more closely matched the Dr. McClelland drawing in “Six Seconds in Dallas”; “When interviewed in 1979, he still maintained that the bullet had entered the President’s throat from the front...”<br />
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[End Book Quote.]<br />
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[Source:] Palamara, Vincent. <i>JFK: From Parkland to Bethesda: The Ultimate Kennedy Assassination Compendium</i> (p. 5). Trine Day. Kindle Edition.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thanks, Micah.<br />
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For the record....<br />
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I just now took a photo of pages 76 and 77 of Robert Groden's book <i>"The Killing Of A President"</i> [see below], and although a "1979 interview" with Dr. Perry is mentioned on Page 77, there is nothing in that brief section of text that says anything about Perry saying he left JFK's throat wound "inviolate", nor is there anything mentioned there about the trach wound looking "neater" than the wound seen in the autopsy photos. (That "neater" info must have come from Vincent Palamara's <i>other</i> listed source—<b>"BE", p. 706</b>—because it sure didn't come from <b>"TKOAP", p. 77</b>.) <br />
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Also (FWIW) .... Palamara probably has the date of that interview incorrect. From what I gather from Mr. Lifton in this discussion, that interview took place in 1977, not '79. (But maybe there was a second Groden/Perry interview in '79 too. ~shrug~)<br />
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Moreover, just as I quoted previously, Groden, on Page 76 of TKOAP [top left], positively endorses the idea that Dr. Perry did, indeed, cut through the bullet hole in President Kennedy's throat:<br />
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And, as we can see on the above two book pages, the notion of Dr. Perry cutting through the bullet hole in JFK's neck is endorsed by Groden a total of <b>three</b> separate times in the text seen on pages 76 and 77 of his 1993 publication.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
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FWIW / BTW / FYI....<br />
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I feel compelled to add the following information to this discussion regarding Parkland Hospital's Dr. David Stewart, mainly because of the fact that when David Lifton first mentioned the name of a "Dr. Stewart" earlier in this forum discussion, my initial reaction upon seeing that name in print was, <i><b>"Who in the world is Dr. Dave Stewart? I don't think I've ever heard of him before. And I can't seem to recall any of the other Parkland doctors talk about him in the past either."</i></b> And that was my reaction, even though, of course, I <i>had</i> already seen Vincent Bugliosi's one and only reference to Dr. Stewart in Vince's 2007 book, <i>"Reclaiming History"</i> [see image below]. But since it was a very brief—and singular—reference that Bugliosi made to Stewart in "RH", I had totally forgotten about it....<br />
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There's also an article that appeared in <i>The Milwaukee Sentinel</i> on January 30, 1967, which deals (in part) with "Dr. W. David Stewart". It would seem, based on that 1967 article, that Stewart's main function on 11/22/63 at Parkland was to deal with Governor Connally's injuries, not JFK's.<br />
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And the most interesting thing that I found today [March 9, 2018] concerning Dr. Stewart comes in the form of a written review that Stewart himself wrote in May of 2006 at Amazon.com for Dr. Charles Crenshaw's book. In that review, Dr. Stewart, in effect, admits that he himself was <b>not</b> present in Trauma Room No. 1 at Parkland with President Kennedy on 11/22/63. Here's what Stewart said:<br />
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<i>"Chuck Crenshaw was a friend of mine at Parkland Hospital. We both were <br />
there at the time of the assassination. We were both residents in general surgery. He was in the trauma room with Kennedy. My only criticism with his book is in his exaggeration of his role. The facts he related were identical to those of all the other physicians who were in attendance."</i> <b>-- Dr. David Stewart; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/RKM8UVMA0TR6K">May 16, 2006</a></b><br />
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I think it's pretty clear that when Stewart said <i><b>"He</b> was in the trauma room with Kennedy"</i>, he was indicating that Dr. Crenshaw <b>WAS</b> in the Emergency Room with JFK, but Stewart himself was not there.<br />
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None of the above information necessarily <i>has</i> to mean anything at all with respect to the things that Dr. Malcolm Perry allegedly said to Dr. Stewart in the days that followed the assassination; but I think the credibility of Dr. Stewart on certain issues relating to JFK's death could certainly be called into question, particularly the things Stewart allegedly told radio host Joe Dolan on April 10, 1967, none of which do we find in Stewart's own 2006 written remarks that I highlighted above.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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David Von Pein:<br />
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Dr. Stewart never said (to me) that he was in ER-1. Ever. To the contrary, he made clear that he was <i><b>not</i></b>. He made that point in my 1982 telephone conversation with him, and again in the June 1989 filmed interview. <br />
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With regard to JFK's wounding, <i><b>he was a witness to what the other doctors told him</i></b>, not to what he saw.<br />
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Now there are two other matters I will hurriedly report here, to be further elaborated upon when time permits:<br />
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ITEM #1: What Robert Groden told us during the filmed interview --- A New Fact....<br />
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Pat Valentino, reviewing the video tapes over the last few days...emailed me that the following repartee took place when Groden (and the Baltimore reporter) visited Dr. Perry at his New York City office. Upon being shown the face-up ("stare-of-death") autopsy photo, <b>Perry told Groden that he would discuss it, but only on the condition that what he had to say remained confidential, and that Groden would not ever talk about it</b>. (This was actually stated during the filmed interview.) <b>Groden agreed</b>, and that is when Perry said "OK" (or words to that effect); and it was then that he shook his head from side-to-side, and said that that was not the way he left the wound.<br />
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Why I bring this up: This is in response to your question, DVP, as to (possibly) why Groden may not have reported the incident when he wrote his book, <i>The Killing of a President</i>. Remember what I said: I said that (in 1993) he wouldn't want to say anything which would indicate an agreement with body alteration; but based upon the June 1989 filmed interview that Pat V has been reviewing, Groden may have felt constrained by an (informal, and certainly legally unenforceable) agreement with the late Dr. Perry.<br />
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ITEM #2: Audio analysis....<br />
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A friend who has audio expertise has been examining the record of what Perry said at that crucial point on the tape. He notes that when Perry's lips are moving, there ought to be words on the tape; and when not moving, there ought <i><b>not</i></b> to be the sound of any words. He states that, without any question, there are serious anomalies in this regard, and he believes that they constitute evidence that tape has been altered ("monkeyed with," in my prior posts). He is preparing some exhibits, and when his work is completed, and I have reviewed it, I will pass it along.<br />
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DSL<br />
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Orange County, California<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thanks for the additional information, David L.<br />
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As I said, the apparent inconsistent statements from Dr. Stewart that I talked about above don't necessarily mean anything at all when it comes to the things Dr. Perry supposedly said to Stewart about the throat wound. But I think those contradictory accounts are kind of interesting nevertheless.<br />
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Since you say you have Dr. Stewart <i>on film</i> saying he was never in Trauma Room 1 with JFK, then it's got to make you scratch your head a little bit (right?) when you see alleged statements being attributed to the same man (David Stewart) which say exactly the opposite (e.g., the Dolan radio interview of 4/10/67 and the quotes that evidently appear in one of Harold Weisberg's books).<br />
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Also....<br />
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I find this comment you made quite interesting (and humorous):<br />
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<i><b>"Perry told Groden that he would discuss it, but only on the condition that what he had to say remained confidential, and that Groden would not ever talk about it. .... Groden agreed."</i></b> -- DSL<br />
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And even with such a rigid agreement in place, what does Groden decide to do in 1989 in front of <i><b>two</i></b> people (David Lifton and Pat Valentino)? Groden decides that 12 years of living up to that verbal agreement with Dr. Perry was more than enough---so he decides to violate the agreement and spill his guts about what Malcolm Perry told him in 1977. (Nice guy, that Bob Groden, huh?) ~smirk~<br />
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Regarding this comment:<br />
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<i><b>"A friend who has audio expertise...notes that when Perry's lips are moving, there ought to be words on the tape; and when not moving, there ought NOT to be the sound of any words."</i></b><br />
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And if it's merely a case of the audio and video being slightly "out of sync" with each other on the CBS 1967 tape in question, then <b>OF COURSE</b> you're going to find that there are some SILENT parts of the tape even when Perry's mouth is moving, and vice versa. That's practically the definition of <b>"out of sync"</b>. (I feel a "Duh" is needed here.) :-)<br />
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If your A/V friend would simply transfer the tape to a digital format and then place the digital file into a video editor, then the audio and video portions could easily be separated and then they could very likely be "lined up" with one another. The out-of-sync issue would then be fixed, and thus the silly allegation of the tape being "altered" by evil-doers would disappear forever. <br />
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Why not try doing that and see if I'm right?<br />
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David Von Pein<br />
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1273.html">February 28—March 10, 2018</a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Fragments from the head shot bullet caused the damage to the limo's windshield and the chrome topping. And such a conclusion is a perfectly logical and reasonable one, given the sum total of physical (bullet) evidence in the JFK case. <br />
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After striking the President's head from behind, the bullet fragmented and continued its FORWARD course toward the front of the limousine --- which is perfectly consistent with the "Oswald Did It" scenario.<br />
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The two front-seat bullet fragments had no overlapping areas, with one of the fragments being a NOSE section of a bullet, while the other fragment was the BASE section of a bullet. The fragments were, therefore, very likely part of the same bullet.<br />
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One thing that even most conspiracy theorists should be sure of is this ---- Those two large front-seat bullet fragments most certainly were NOT fired from the FRONT of President Kennedy's vehicle.<br />
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Therefore, among other obvious things (such as Governor Connally's <b>BACK</b> wound and JFK's <b>BACK</b> wound), the existence of those two fragments in the <i><b>front seat</i></b> of the Presidential limousine pretty much destroy David Lifton's crazy "All Shots Came From The Front" theory.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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The legal (and historical) record in this case clearly establishes a serious bifurcation in the record (i.e., the medical record) between the wound observations at Parkland Hospital and what was reported at Bethesda, at the time of autopsy.<br />
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The fact that the two FBI agents present (Sibert and O’Neill) would report that, when JFK’s body was laid out on the autopsy table, it was “apparent” that there had been “surgery of the head area, namely, in the top of the skull,” should afford a rather clear explanation as to what the explanation is for this bifurcation: the wounds had been altered, somehow, in the six hour period between the time of the Parkland observations and the official start of the Bethesda autopsy.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Not surprisingly, I see that David Lifton is still desperately clinging to <b>really bad information</b> with respect to the <i>"surgery of the head area"</i> remark that appears on <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md44/html/Image3.htm">Page 3 of the 11/22/63 Sibert & O'Neill Report</a></b>. Mr. Lifton, however, knows full well that the co-author of that 1963 report—James W. Sibert—also made the following statement to the HSCA in 1978:<br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><i><b>"When the body was first observed on the autopsy table, it was thought by the doctors that surgery had possibly been performed in the head area and such was reflected in my notes at the time. However, this was determined not to be correct following a detailed inspection."</i></b></span> <span style="font-size: large;">-- James Sibert; October 24, 1978</span><br />
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So, Mr. Lifton, what about that 1978 statement by Jim Sibert? Was he lying when he made those comments to the House Select Committee? I guess you must think he was.<br />
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I'll also add this excerpt from Vincent Bugliosi's book:<br />
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<i>"In a 1999 telephone conversation from his retirement home in Fort Myers, Florida, Sibert told me that when the casket was opened in the autopsy room, <b>"The president was wrapped in two sheets, one around his body, another sheet around his head."</b> He said the sheet around the head was <b>"soaked in blood,"</b> and when it was removed, Dr. Humes <b>"almost immediately upon seeing the president's head—this was before the autopsy—remarked that the president had a tracheotomy and surgery of the head area."</b> When I asked Sibert what Humes was referring to when he used the word surgery, he said, <b>"He was referring to the large portion of the president's skull that was missing."</b> When I asked him why he was so sure of this, he replied, <b>"Well, if you were there, it couldn't have been more clear that that's what he was talking about. He said this as soon as he saw the president's head. He hadn't looked close-up for any evidence of surgery to the head when he said this. I'm positive that's what he was referring to."</b>"</i> <b>-- <a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EjobU3ViQxI/UdM6qneDj_I/AAAAAAAAvBc/CPZHbZ5Klb0/s1600/RH-Excerpt.png">Page 1060 of "Reclaiming History"</a></b><br />
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And after I utilized the above Bugliosi quote at a JFK forum in <b><a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/GPd3btEvk1A/DyIeEWNm6AcJ">May 2013</a></b>, I followed up the quote with these remarks:<br />
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<i>"Why conspiracy theorists continue to cling to inaccurate information is anyone's guess--but they do it--all the time. Sibert and O'Neill merely wrote down what Dr. Humes said at the start of the autopsy. And that information was proven to be wrong. And even most CTers know and think it was wrong--because there are very few CTers who are idiotic enough to actually believe David Lifton's theory about there being "surgery" done to JFK's body before the autopsy."</i> <b>-- DVP; May 5, 2013</b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Perhaps it should come as no surprise that David Von Pein is still at it, beating a dead horse, basically denying the evidence that JFK’s wounds were altered prior to autopsy; in other words, the President’s body was a medical forgery by the time of autopsy. But Von Pein, ignoring all that, and employing “kindergarten logic,” basically argues that since ammunition found in the presidential limo ballistically matched Oswald’s rifle, that that somehow validates the case against Oswald.<br />
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I can only speculate as to what would happen if DVP were involved in a card game and it turned out, from simple card-counting, that there were two “Ace of spades” or three Jack of Diamonds? Would he continue to play? Or would he understand that the game was permeated with fraud?<br />
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As I have stated in public lectures, JFK’s body was akin to the sun in the solar system of evidence. Once it's established that the body was altered, the evidence that there was fraud in the evidence (and that the Dallas sniper’s nest evidence was a source of artifacts, not legitmate “facts”) becomes “the” major issue; and has logical consequences.<br />
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Von Pein doesn’t seem to understand that. He wants to keep dealing the cards, and keep playing the game, with the stacked deck; i.e., even though there’s clearly fraud in the evidence.<br />
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His attempt to focus on the limousine, and cite one of the two fragments (that matched Oswald’s rifle) as legitimate evidence is both pathetic and illogical.<br />
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Von Pein doesn’t seem to understand that once fraud is established in the most basic evidence in this case—i.e., the body of the deceased, which was the basis for the Naval autopsy—the entire legal case is kaput.<br />
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It is almost comical to see him, all these years later, focusing on one of the two “Oswald fragments” recovered from the limousine, and attempting to use that as the basis for arguing that the sniper’s nest evidence is legitimate because...because why? Because (of course, in DVP’s world!) Oswald assassinated the President!<br />
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By that flawed methodology and absurd logic, why stop with the fragments? Why not cite the rifle found on the sixth floor of the TSBD as evidence that Oswald was JFK’s assassin; ergo, the body was not altered (to create that false appearance)!<br />
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If this is the way DVP “reasons,” I can only imagine what would have happened if he had displayed this sort of reasoning in a mathematics class or one on basic geometry.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Well, David L., you'll have to forgive me if I choose <i>not</i> to follow you down your <b>"Body Alteration"</b> and <b>"Body-centric Plot"</b> roads. (And I doubt there are more than a couple of conspiracy theorists at this forum who buy into your fantastically impossible version of events either.)<br />
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And what is truly "comical" is that Mr. Lifton seems to be implying that <i><b>it's only me</i></b> who believes in Lee Oswald's lone guilt....and <i><b>it's only me</i></b> who thinks the evidence is legitimate throughout the JFK case. When, in reality, there are <i>millions</i> of "Lone Assassin believers" in the world. I'm certainly not in the LN boat all by myself.<br />
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And, <b><i>YES!</i></b>, <i>of course</i> I'm going to <i><b>"cite the rifle found on the sixth floor of the TSBD as evidence that Oswald was JFK’s assassin"</i></b>. What Lone Assassin believer <i>wouldn't</i> be citing that Carcano rifle as one of the most important pieces of evidence in the whole case (if not <b>THE</b> most important)? Get real, David L.!<br />
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Here's a rifle-related question I have repeatedly asked conspiracy believers over the last several years:<br />
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<i>"At ANY given point in time after Lee Oswald acquired his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle via mail-order in March 1963, WHO IS MORE LIKELY to have used it -- on ANY day, including November 22, 1963 -- than its owner, LEE HARVEY OSWALD? .... For, if rifle-owner OSWALD didn't use OSWALD'S own rifle on November 22nd, then WHO DID use OSWALD'S VERY OWN RIFLE to fire bullets from it at John F. Kennedy in Dealey Plaza? On the basis of OWNERSHIP ALONE, Lee Harvey Oswald is very, very likely to have been the man squeezing the trigger of Rifle C2766 on November 22 (or any other day of the year). If conspiracy theorists think it's MORE likely for Malcolm Wallace (or anyone else) to have been up on that sixth floor using Oswald's gun on 11/22/63, they've got a huge hurdle to overcome. And that hurdle is -- <b>NOBODY OWNED THAT RIFLE EXCEPT FOR LEE HARVEY OSWALD</b>."</i> <b>-- DVP; November 18, 2007</b><br />
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<i>"Who is more likely to have used Mannlicher-Carcano rifle #C2766 on 11/22/63 (or any other day of the year)? The owner of the gun (Lee Harvey Oswald)? Or some stranger who didn't purchase the weapon? Based on those "odds", alone, the Anybody But Oswald kooks are cooked. And when we start adding in all the other stuff that incriminates Sweet Lee, it's Katie, bar the door (e.g., Oswald leaving the building immediately; Oswald killing Tippit; Oswald's actions and statements within the Texas Theater, which practically amount to Oswald confessing to some horrible act; plus those fingerprints on the rifle's trigger guard, identified as being Oswald's prints by Vincent Scalice in 1993). This case is a prosecutor's wet dream."</i> <b>-- DVP; September 18, 2012</b><br />
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And, yes, I'm also going to cite the two large bullet fragments recovered from the limousine (which came from <b>OSWALD'S</b> rifle) as strong evidence that is was, indeed, <b>OSWALD</b> who was firing that rifle at President Kennedy on November 22nd. Again, what LNer <i>wouldn't</i> be citing such incredibly incriminating physical evidence of Oswald's guilt? <br />
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You, David S. Lifton, actually seem to think it's <i>surprising</i> that a person (like me) who strongly believes that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin of JFK would dare to assert that the various pieces of ballistics evidence associated with JFK's murder are <i>actually</i> legitimate (i.e., non-phony) pieces of evidence in this case—such as the C2766 Carcano rifle and the two bullet fragments found in the front seat of the President's car.<br />
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And despite the popular trend among JFK conspiracists to believe that virtually all of the physical evidence in the Kennedy and Tippit murder cases is fake and worthless, there hasn't been a speck of <b>PROOF</b> to substantiate that <b>ANY</b> of that evidence was <i>actually</i> manufactured, planted, or fraudulent (including the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle and the two front-seat bullet fragments). <br />
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And the last time I checked, the massive amount of <i><b>SPECULATION</b></i> and <b><i>ACCUSATIONS</b></i> and <b><i>WISHFUL THINKING</i></b> being done by JFK conspiracy theorists does not come close to rising to the level of <b><i>PROOF</b></i>.<br />
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Get real, DSL! You're the one beating the dead horse. Not me.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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I spoke with FBI agent James Sibert at length some years later (in the early 1990s, but I will try to determine the exact date). At that time, he told me (and he was quite emphatic on this point): <i>"I would swear on a stack of bibles that the doctor (referring to the autopsy surgeon) said there had been surgery of the head area..."</i> So I'm not making any of this up.<br />
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Furthermore (and I did not discover what follows until years later): when, during the "latter stages" of the autopsy, a bone fragment was brought to the autopsy room and handed to Humes (the autopsy surgeon), Humes--according to the two FBI agents--was "instructed" that this "had been removed from the President's skull." Note the FBI agents' choice of words: not "blasted" away; not "found in the street"; not "found in the car" etc. Rather: that this bone fragment had been "removed" from JFK's skull. Again, another strong indication that, at the time of autopsy, it was the perception in the Bethesda autopsy room that there had been pre-autopsy surgery on JFK's body--i.e., on his wounds.<br />
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DSL, 5/21/2019 (3 PM EDT)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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That's extremely weak, David. It's embarrassingly weak for you. Especially after reviewing the comments made later by both James Sibert and Dr. Humes.<br />
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You are desperately searching for justification so that you can continue to believe in the "surgery" that never happened.<br />
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Don't you think it's about time for you to STOP relying on <i><b>bad information</i></b>?<br />
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The complete 1992 interview with Dr. James J. Humes:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md22/html/Image02.htm"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RS3gXfPv2GU/XKmIz-2CIeI/AAAAAAABRG8/60SevG4bfnUiq1Y7Gk8ygs8HpoKCFsCoQCLcBGAs/s313/Click-Here-Logo-2.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Is it possible that, despite all the contrary evidence, all it takes to deceive DVP is for Oswald's rifle to have been placed among some cartons on the sixth floor; and so, ipso facto, that's enough for him to accept Oswald's guilt as "the assassin"?<br />
<br />
<br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Well, David, I think I'm relying on just a <i>tad</i> bit more than just the rifle. Or had you forgotten about all of this <i><b>other</b></i> "Oswald Did It" evidence? (You're not going to totally ignore <i><b>all</i></b> of this stuff too, are you DSL?)....<br />
<br />
<a href="http://oswald-is-guilty.blogspot.com"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/TIByylsCLCI/AAAAAAAAFOY/PN5rpullKQA/s530/XX.+Oswald+Is+Guilty+Blog+Logo.png"></a><br />
<br />
<br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
DVP scolds me, writing <i>"Don't you think it's about time for you to STOP relying on <b>bad information</b>?"</i><br />
<br />
How ironic. This is written by DVP who sincerely believes--and promotes--a completely false view of what happened on 11/22/63, because he is wedded to a simplistic belief in falsified evidence.<br />
<br />
DSL; 5/21/19 (7:15 EDT)<br />
<br />
<br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
It's all a matter of POINT OF VIEW and BELIEFS.<br />
<br />
DSL believes that there's a ton of "falsified evidence" in this case. (Despite the fact that he's got no definitive <b>PROOF</b> that even ONE PIECE of evidence against Oswald was "falsified".)<br />
<br />
DVP does not share DSL's belief.<br />
<br />
And the JFK Assassination merry-go-round continues to perpetually spin....<br />
<br />
David Von Pein<br />
<a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25776-damage-to-the-limo/?tab=comments#comment-400188">May 10-21, 2019</a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">REPLAY....</span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID LIFTON SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
My final conclusion on this matter is that <i>Dr. Perry never made an incision</i>.<br />
<br />
<br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
In addition to this previously-mentioned 2009 comment by Dr. Robert McClelland....<br />
<br />
<b><i>"Some people have even said 'Oh, that tracheostomy has been altered; it's too big a wound'. Well, I can speak for that -- no, it had not been altered. That's exactly the way it was made at Parkland. It's just that people expected it to be smaller."</i></b><br />
<br />
....there are also these 1992 remarks concerning the size of the tracheotomy wound by four other Parkland Hospital doctors....<br />
<br />
Dr. Charles Baxter said:<br />
<br />
<b><i>"I was right there, and the tracheostomy I observed and the autopsy photos look the same—very compatible."</i></b><br />
<br />
<br />
Dr. Marion Jenkins (comparing the autopsy pictures with the trach wound he saw at Parkland):<br />
<br />
<b><i>"They're the same."</i></b><br />
<br />
<br />
Dr. Charles J. Carrico:<br />
<br />
<b><i>"I've seen the autopsy photos and they are very compatible to the actual tracheostomy."</i></b><br />
<br />
<br />
Dr. Malcolm Perry:<br />
<br />
<b><i>"Of course, tissues sag and stretch after death, but any suggestion that this wound was intentionally enlarged is wrong."</i></b><br />
<br />
<br />
Source for the above four quotes:<br />
<br />
The <i>Journal Of The American Medical Association</i>; May 27, 1992; <b><a href="https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md22/html/Image13.htm">Page 2805</a></b><br />
<br />
<br />
So, David Lifton, do you still stand by this statement of yours from last year?....<br />
<br />
<i><b>"Dr. Perry never made an incision."</i></b> -- David S. Lifton; <b><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/page/21/?tab=comments#comment-370979">February 27, 2018</a></b><br />
<br />
David Von Pein<br />
<a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/page/45/?tab=comments#comment-400740">May 21, 2019</a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br>
Here's a brief recap of <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0O5WNzrZqINyzkmcG_mxtCdItyQLe93E">this 14-part video series</a></b> featuring David S. Lifton, which was recorded in November of 2013:<br>
<br>
Here's a partial list of some of the preposterous things that Mr. Lifton believed happened on November 22, 1963:<br>
<br>
<b>1.)</b> A Secret Service agent <i>was</i>, indeed, killed on 11/22/63. And the body of this dead SS agent was then placed on board Air Force One at Love Field in Dallas. And apparently nobody noticed this occurring at all.<br>
<br>
<b>2.)</b> All of the films taken in Dealey Plaza on November 22 were altered/faked (e.g., the Zapruder Film, the Nix Film, the Muchmore Film, etc.). A direct quote from David Lifton in 2013: <i><b>"All the films have been altered."</i></b><br>
<br>
<b>3.)</b> Prior to departing Dallas, JFK's body was evidently (per Lifton) placed on some sort of "ledge" in the cargo area of Air Force One, and then, sometime during the flight, his body fell from this ledge, resulting in a situation where one of JFK's arms was left dangling toward the floor of the cargo hold. And as a result of this, at the start of the autopsy at Bethesda, Kennedy's arm (due to the onset of rigor mortis) was sticking up, stiff as a board, and could not be lowered until Dr. Humes actually got up on the autopsy table (per Lifton's account, which comes via an interview with autopsy eyewitness Richard Lipsey) and forced the stiffened arm down by JFK's side.<br>
<br>
<b>4.)</b> To avoid the prying eyes of the media, Air Force One made an unscheduled stop near the end of the runway after landing at Andrews Air Force Base. This was done so that JFK's corpse could be secretly taken out of the airplane's cargo hold and transferred to a helicopter.<br>
<br>
<b>5.)</b> Secret Service agent John Ready "threw himself" into the Presidential limousine after the shooting, and (according to Mr. Lifton) it is Ready's foot we see sticking out of the back seat of the car in the <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVJoLFE-Z1xV0zELMcEU6Kz3m6rEHyOP2D8BjuurMowAj4sl612RWw_qLVEyh_zUYvNIHparOAJuCMMvq_7rBZZipXCgZ0Z-xPPsIMn9WXX5yLUpHY-dovaUH-D8BmkdNv5zdvQnlhyQggLGHOh-xHohiHZumFYOObh54d6_yfe7uf3oscwewlQtsa/s1073/Miller-Photo.jpg">David Miller photograph</a></b>.<br>
<br>
For this theory of Lifton's to be correct, it would mean that John Ready lied in <b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/Sa-ready.htm">this report</a></b>.<br>
<br><a name="John-Connally-Bombshell"></a>
<b>6.)</b> Quoting David Lifton in 2013: <i><b>"He [John Connally] got shot as a result of this fight in the car [with Secret Service agent John Ready]."</b></i><br>
<br>
I think it's now time for one of these:<br>
<br>
<span style="font-size: large;"><i><b>WTF?!</i></b></span><br>
<br>
So now we know how David Lifton managed to keep John Connally from sustaining any wounds <i>from the rear</i> during the period when the assassination of JFK was taking place on Elm Street. He (Lifton) merely invented this fantasy story about Secret Service agent John Ready leaping into the limousine and shooting Connally. And then John Connally, in all of his many post-1963 interviews, decided to never once mention this "fight" that he had with Ready.<br>
<br>
Oh, brother.<br>
<br>
<b>7.)</b> Lifton, as of 2013, apparently believed that President Kennedy's wounds were altered (with lightning-like speed evidently) while JFK <i>was still aboard Air Force One</i> at Love Field in Dallas.<br>
<br>
I had always thought Lifton believed that the body-altering surgery was performed at Walter Reed Hospital. But I guess David decided to change the location of that part of his fanciful tale. ~shrug~<br>
<br>
<b>8.)</b> Lee Harvey Oswald did, indeed, fire a rifle from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building on November 22nd....but David Lifton thinks it was merely a "mock attack" and Lee was only firing "blanks".<br>
<br>
Well, have you had enough of this fantasy stuff for today?<br>
<br>
Yeah, me too.<br>
<br>
David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/28424-amazing-video-series-tribute-to-david-lifton/?do=findComment&comment=481893">December 9, 2022</a><br>
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<br>
<span style="font-size: large;"><b>[More discussion about David Lifton's bizarre theories can be found <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1359.html#David-Lifton">HERE</a>.]</b></span><br>
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<b><span style="color: blue;"><span style="font-size:190%;">SOME MISC. E-MAIL DISCUSSIONS....</span></span></b><br />
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<br />
<b>Subject: Marguerite Oswald on WOAI in December 1966<br />
Date: 7/24/2015<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
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<br />
DVP:<br />
<br />
There are news clips and documents that state that Marguerite Oswald was interviewed—at some length—on radio station WOAI (San Antonio).<br />
<br />
I wonder if you have that—somewhere in your collection.<br />
<br />
Or: if you do not, if you could (somehow) obtain the audio for that program (and/or a transcript).<br />
<br />
Marguerite, of course, sets forth her theories on various aspects of the JFK case; and I would like to hear what she had to say.<br />
<br />
DSL<br />
<br />
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<br />
<b>Subject: Re: Marguerite Oswald on WOAI in December 1966<br />
Date: 7/25/2015<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
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<br />
Hi DSL,<br />
<br />
I don't have the WOAI interview. Nor do I know where a transcript can be obtained.<br />
<br />
You might find the following Marguerite links useful, however....<br />
<br />
<i><b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSz1Y5ft13Q">YouTube.com/watch?v=NSz1Y5ft13Q</a><br />
<br />
<a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/marguerite-oswald-reads-lho-letters.html">Marguerite Oswald Reads Lee Harvey Oswald's Letters From Russia</a></i></b><br />
<br />
DVP<br />
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<br />
<b>Subject: Your Connecticut radio station narrative<br />
Date: 11/27/2015<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
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<br />
DVP:<br />
<br />
I listened to your <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2013/11/wtic-radio.html">Connecticut radio station broadcast</a></b> yesterday with some interest, and made notes which you might be interested in. <br />
<br />
FWIW: I was surprised by how long they kept broadcasting their ordinary programming, unaware of what was going on in Dallas. <br />
<br />
By using that particular station, you were able to write your own narrative, and the listener (e.g., me) kept thinking: “Oh, come on now, don’t you realize what has happened in Dallas? When are you going to wake up and learn about that?” <br />
<br />
Anyway, my notes aside (I found some typos and some errors you may wish to correct in your narrative), I have one request.<br />
<br />
In your narrative, you stated that Dan Rather reported that JFK was transferred to an ambulance. I am aware that AP reported that factoid at about 12:49 CST (approx., I’m writing this from memory), but I did <i>not</i> know that Dan Rather actually read that dispatch over the air.<br />
<br />
<b>My request:</b> <i>could you please point me to the source of that particular piece of sound?</i><br />
<br />
You have archived quite a few radio stations on your YouTube channel, and I have no idea which one might be the one that carried that particular report.<br />
<br />
<i>Could you please point me to the source?</i><br />
<br />
Ideally, I would like to have that snippet of sound to play for someone with whom I’m meeting tonight for a late dinner.<br />
<br />
Do you think you could provide me the source, and perhaps the exact “coordinates”, so I could just click on it, and play it, on my laptop?<br />
<br />
I would appreciate that.<br />
<br />
Thank you.<br />
<br />
DSL<br />
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<br />
<b>Subject: Dan Rather & "The Ambulance"<br />
Date: 11/27/2015<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
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<br />
Here it is:<br />
<br />
<iframe src="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_YygHvgJjo6UnNkejJpd0NtU2M/preview" width="402" height="300"></iframe><br />
<br />
<br />
It's a CBS radio report by Dan Rather, with Rather saying that JFK <i><b>"was taken into an ambulance and rushed to Dallas' Parkland Hospital"</i></b>. This occurs at the 8:57 mark of Part 1 of my <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-wcco-radio.html">WCCO-Radio (Minneapolis) series</a></b>, which equates to about 12:55 PM CST.<br />
<br />
And in video form, here's Dan Rather narrating a film and saying that an ambulance had transported JFK to Parkland (it's at the 2:13:02 mark in Part 2 of my <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2012/03/cbs-tv.html">CBS-TV series</a></b>):<br />
<br />
<br />
<iframe src="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_YygHvgJjo6Y3ZPQnhqenJUWHc/preview" width="402" height="300"></iframe><br />
<br />
<br />
For the record....<br />
<br />
The "narrative" you were referring to in your last mail is NOT mine. Those captions were written by Doug Bertel and they are presented on Doug's <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1K5KqRW9qw">YouTube channel</a></b>, not mine.<br />
<br />
Doug Bertel, btw, is the son of WTIC-Radio announcer Dick Bertel, who was on the air quite a bit on 11/22/63 providing bulletins to the Hartford radio audience.<br />
<br />
David V.P.<br />
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<br />
<b>Subject: Missing Zapruder frames (in the Life issue that you are using)<br />
Date: 2/28/2016<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
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<br />
David:<br />
<br />
At your blog, where you go through all the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/life-with-john-f-kennedy.html">Life magazine issues</a></b> that have anything to do with Kennedy, there is a serious omission in the <b><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=UUgEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false">10/2/64 issue</a></b> which deals with the Warren Report.<br />
<br />
The <b><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=UUgEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA1&pg=PA41#v=onepage&q&f=true">caption</a></b> describes 8 pictures.<br />
<br />
But there are only 4 Z frames shown. 1, 2, 3 and 5.<br />
<br />
For whatever reason, 4, 6 and 7 are not shown in the Internet Link that you provide.<br />
<br />
I think you should correct that.<br />
<br />
If/when you do, please let me know, and perhaps provide the new (or revised) link.<br />
<br />
Thanks.<br />
<br />
DSL<br />
<br />
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<b>=================================</b><br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Subject: Re: Missing Zapruder frames<br />
Date: 2/28/2016<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
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<br />
That is odd....especially since the frames go from number 3 to number 5, skipping 4, even though 3 and 5 are on the SAME page [<b><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=UUgEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA1&pg=PA46#v=onepage&q&f=true">here</a></b>]. Weird.<br />
<br />
But how would you suggest that I go about "correcting" it, David? I have no control over those Google LIFE images.<br />
<br />
DVP<br />
<br />
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<b>=================================</b><br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Subject: Flaw in the original magazine, as scanned<br />
Date: 2/28/2016<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
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<br />
David:<br />
<br />
I just checked via Google.<br />
<br />
The flaw is in the original document.<br />
<br />
Have no idea why those pages were not scanned.<br />
<br />
[...]<br />
<br />
As far as “correcting” this situation goes, perhaps the only way is to bring to the attention of the creator of this Internet product —Google?, and the right department or official there—and letting them know that their scan was improperly done, and that they should correct the situation.<br />
<br />
For now, and if you could help on this matter, I would appreciate it if you could either direct me to (or provide yourself) a proper image of those frames that are missing from the Google product, as published: #4, #6, #7 and #8. Most important to me are pictures #7 and #8. <br />
<br />
Ideally, I would like a scan off of the Life magazine page; i.e., just as it [was] published, with the black border, and the little white number at the left.<br />
<br />
Second: if such an image is not available or cannot be created, i.e., if you do not happen to have that issue of Life (10/2/64) at hand, do you happen to know the Z frame number for photo #7 and #8?<br />
<br />
Please respond asap. <br />
<br />
To recap: If you happen to have the Life issue of 10/2/64, and could scan the “missing” images, that would be great. <br />
<br />
OTOH: If you could provide an Internet link to some other site which happens to have posted those pages from that Life issue, that would also be helpful. <br />
<br />
Finally, I would like the exact Z frame numbers of those missing frames.<br />
<br />
Thanks.<br />
<br />
DSL<br />
<br />
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<b>=================================</b><br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Subject: Re: Missing Zapruder frames<br />
Date: 2/29/2016<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
<br />
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<br />
I don't know the Z-Frame numbers for 7 and 8. And, no, I do not have the 10/2/64 LIFE magazine.<br />
<br />
[...]<br />
<br />
It's kind of interesting to note that the very same issue of LIFE Magazine that has those Z-Film frames missing is the same issue of LIFE that includes <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-994.html#Gerald-Ford-Quote-In-LIFE-Magazine-October-2-1964">these inaccuracies</a></b> about Howard Brennan.<br />
<br />
DVP<br />
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<br />
<b>Subject: Please address this issue as soon as you can<br />
Date: 3/26/2016<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
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<br />
David,<br />
<br />
Re your post on your YouTube channel titled:<br />
<br />
<b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8UwZ588YcqILS0xWDZYeG9EWmc/view">JFK ARRIVES IN DALLAS, TEXAS, ON 11/22/63</a></b><br />
<br />
Who is the announcer?<br />
<br />
I am getting conflicting opinions from two different individuals, each of whom claims to have reliable knowledge.<br />
<br />
Here is what Wikipedia states:<br />
<br />
QUOTE:<br />
<br />
<i>"Dallas/Fort Worth's television stations were given separate assignments. As Bob Walker of WFAA-TV 8 (ABC) was providing live coverage of the President's arrival at Love Field, KRLD-TV 4 (CBS) with Eddie Barker was set up at the Trade Mart for Kennedy's luncheon speech. KTVT Channel 11 (Independent), had originated live coverage of the President's breakfast speech in Fort Worth earlier that day. On hand to report the arrival on radio was Joe Long of KLIF 1190."</i><br />
<br />
UNQUOTE<br />
<br />
Is it Bob Walker? Channel 8....WFAA news director?<br />
<br />
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<b>=================================</b><br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Subject: Re: Bob Walker<br />
Date: 3/26/2016<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
<br />
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<br />
Yes, it's Bob Walker. He even says his name at the beginning of the video [embedded below] --- <i><b>"This is Bob Walker speaking..."</i></b><br />
<br />
DVP<br />
<br />
<iframe src="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N0vSowV1WUdMWg4njR0pPb1GXuutlbzY/preview" width="402" height="300"></iframe><br />
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<br />
<b>Subject: Question I have -- "When was Connally standing?"<br />
Date: 3/28/2016<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
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<br />
David,<br />
<br />
I much appreciated your identification of the narrator as Bob Walker.<br />
<br />
Since that email exchange, additional questions have arisen.<br />
<br />
At issue is just when [Governor John] Connally was "standing" and when the Ward Warren film showing him standing was exposed.<br />
<br />
Can you help?<br />
<br />
If you can address the question I am asking, and help clarify the situation, that would be much appreciated.<br />
<br />
(Let me cut to the chase, as the saying goes: is it your understanding that when <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XbDfnS5ULLI/WA3sJafPHnI/AAAAAAABKwI/ruPP_iGdsDIMAnYu43NNS2YFtUFJdl6owCLcB/s1600/Connally.png">this image</a></b> (see below) was exposed, JC [John Connally] was in the car, and it contained Jack and Jackie, and it was already moving? Or was this image taken before President and Mrs. Kennedy even reached the limo, and took their seats?)<br />
<br />
<img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XbDfnS5ULLI/WA3sJafPHnI/AAAAAAABKwI/ruPP_iGdsDIMAnYu43NNS2YFtUFJdl6owCLcB/s450/Connally.png"><br />
<br />
Please let me know what you think.<br />
<br />
Thanks.<br />
<br />
DSL<br />
<br />
P.S. And who are all those people with the gray uniforms on in the background? I don’t recall seeing any such group to the port side of the limo at Love Field, so I am thoroughly confused. (Is it possible that this image comes from San Antonio???)<br />
<br />
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<br />
<b>Subject: Re: "When was Connally standing?"<br />
Date: 3/28/2016<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
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<br />
I can definitely help you on this....<br />
<br />
The "Connally standing up" footage is definitely taken at Love Field, not in San Antonio.<br />
<br />
JFK's limo, with Connally standing up holding his Stetson hat, was moved forward slowly a few times during the period when JFK and Jackie were walking along the fence line at Love Field shaking hands with the crowd. It is during one of those "moving forward" periods that Ward Warren, right at the end of <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t9vdmdARpxwE3JGKKLqYYtKRd_aC8UGq/view">his film</a></b>, captured the car in motion with Governor Connally standing up in the car.<br />
<br />
Here's a still image showing Connally standing up in the limo at Love Field prior to JFK and Jackie entering the car. As you can see, LBJ is also not in his car yet either when this picture was taken:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kKwevuxzmkk/TZF6w2pfi5I/AAAAAAAATec/9W2qj-GCZi0/s1600/At%2BLove%2BField%2B%252811-22-63%2529%2528LBJ%252C%2BJBC%252C%2BKantor%252C%2BMacNeil%2529.jpg"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kKwevuxzmkk/TZF6w2pfi5I/AAAAAAAATec/9W2qj-GCZi0/s530/At%2BLove%2BField%2B%252811-22-63%2529%2528LBJ%252C%2BJBC%252C%2BKantor%252C%2BMacNeil%2529.jpg"></a><br />
<br />
And the women in the gray uniforms in the background in the Warren Film are (I think) airline stewardesses and other airline personnel who came out to see the President at Love Field.<br />
<br />
Bob Walker and Joe Long (the latter being the narrator for the <b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2010/04/klif-radio-coverage-11-22-63.html">KLIF Radio coverage</a></b> of the Dallas arrival) mentioned in their broadcasts something about airline personnel coming out of the airport buildings to see JFK that morning.<br />
<br />
Hope this helps.<br />
<br />
David V.P.<br />
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<br />
<b>Subject: Re: "When was Connally standing?"<br />
Date: 3/29/2016<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
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<br />
David V.P.:<br />
<br />
Yes, this really does help, and does indeed clarify the situation.<br />
<br />
I have this question, if you’d care to elaborate: how did you “figure out” (or “arrive at the conclusion”) that the JFK limo was driving along, slowly, as JFK was doing his thing along the fence??<br />
<br />
I have no doubt you are correct; it fits. But I don’t understand how you were able to unearth that explanation.<br />
<br />
Did you interview someone? Is there some film which provided that perspective, and made clear what was going on? Or what?<br />
<br />
Until your email, I had no idea that the JFK limo “moved” as JFK was greeting people at the fence.<br />
<br />
Anyway, thanks for your help.<br />
<br />
Very useful.<br />
<br />
DSL<br />
<br />
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<b>=================================</b><br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Subject: Re: "When was Connally standing?"<br />
Date: 3/29/2016<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br />
Well, for one thing, we can SEE the limo moving while Connally is standing up in the Ward Warren film. (And the Warren Film was definitely taken in Dallas, not San Antonio. That fact is confirmed in the <b><a href="https://emuseum.jfk.org/objects/32263/ward-warren-film">description of the film</a></b> at The Sixth Floor Museum website.)<br />
<br />
Plus, you can see some of the cars in the motorcade moving forward at the 22:30 mark in the <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8UwZ588YcqILS0xWDZYeG9EWmc/view">WFAA/Walker Love Field video</a></b>.<br />
<br />
DVP<br />
<br />
<a href="https://emuseum.jfk.org/objects/32263/ward-warren-film"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0LZ5B_9BCvI/VGRXHm_v1cI/AAAAAAABBLo/oKUZuEA8F7w/s1600/Ward-Warren-Film-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<br>
<b>Subject: "Beyond Reasonable Doubt"<br />
Date: 4/2/2016<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
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<br>
Did you and/or [Mel] Ayton ever respond in detail to Martin Hay’s review of your book?<br>
<br>
(Just asking).<br>
<br>
DSL<br>
<br>
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<b>=================================</b><br />
<br>
<br>
<b>Subject: Re: "Beyond Reasonable Doubt"<br />
Date: 4/2/2016<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br>
DVP:<br>
<br>
Please ignore my previous email.<br>
<br>
I now see from the London Forum [linked below] that you engaged in much additional debate.<br>
<br>
<b><i><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=21830">http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=21830</a></i></b><br>
<br>
DSL<br>
<br>
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<br />
<b>Subject: Request for assistance<br />
Date: 4/7/2016<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br />
DVP:<br />
<br />
I wonder if you could help me out. <br />
<br />
The other night, on YouTube, I watched a piece of footage (which you may have posted, I don’t know that for sure) which contained the lengthiest (and most informal) footage of the Newmans I have ever seen. More important, it contained other witnesses as well.<br />
<br />
Let me describe it:<br />
<br />
I believe it started with Zapruder, and then with Moorman and then Hill; and <i>then</i> the Newmans.<br />
<br />
Both Newmans seated with Jay Watson.<br />
<br />
Then came the other fellow—Mr. Peppermint.<br />
<br />
Then Mrs. Newman (and her baby) left, so it was just Bill Newman and Watson (and Peppermint, I think).<br />
<br />
Then there was moot footage, only now with Watson standing up, nearby, in an office setting, with Bill Newman.<br />
<br />
I wanted to go back to all of it, and make some notes; and now I can’t find it.<br />
<br />
You are very familiar with all of this material.<br />
<br />
Could you please send me the link to this item?<br />
<br />
(And --- Are you the one that posted it?)<br />
<br />
I have the general impression that it was (originally) compiled—or pasted together—by WFAA, and then you (or someone) posted it on YouTube.<br />
<br />
Again, I would really like to review it again, but I need the link.<br />
<br />
Thanks.<br />
<br />
DSL<br />
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<br />
<br />
<b>Subject: Re: Request for assistance<br />
Date: 4/8/2016<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br />
Hi,<br />
<br />
It sounds like most of that footage is the live TV coverage from WFAA-TV (with Watson, Haynes [Mr. Peppermint], and the Newmans).<br />
<br />
But the stuff with Zapruder, Hill, and Moorman <b>UP FRONT</b>, before the Newmans, must be a compilation of some kind (as you suggested). <br />
<br />
I don't recall putting together any "Highlights" video like that. (Although I have several <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2013/06/highlights-series.html">“DVP's Highlights”</a></b> videos on my sites that I have compiled over the years.) But my WFAA Highlights program wouldn't show Moorman and Zapruder PRIOR to the Newmans.<br />
<br />
Anyway, here's the (uncut) WFAA link....<br />
<br />
<a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2012/03/wfaa-tv.html"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tOHbKGSJMto/UhrAeGmGC_I/AAAAAAAAvlA/ssp3FjopVJ0/s527/WFAA-TV+Playlist+Logo-2.png"></a><br />
<br />
DVP<br />
<br>
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<br>
<b>Subject: My appearance on Larry King (radio)---Jan or March, 1981<br />
Date: 5/15/2018<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br>
David,<br>
<br>
In putting together a particular section of <i>Final Charade</i>, I have reason to (suddenly) wish I had the recordings of my multi-hour appearance on the Larry King radio show, circa Jan 1981 or March 1981. Not sure of the exact date.<br>
<br>
But King was on vacation, and the 3 hour interview was conducted by Ben Baldwin of KTRK (of Houston).<br>
<br>
I need the part where I discuss the Al Thomas “wink” photograph—how I found it, my call to Stoughton about it, etc.<br>
<br>
I would think that I spoke about it for at least 15 minutes, but not much longer.<br>
<br>
[...]<br>
<br>
I know you collect a lot of material. Might you have the audio recording of my appearance? And specifically, of the segment where I discuss the Stoughton photo which shows Congressman Thomas winking at Johnson?<br>
<br>
If not, then that’s the end of it.<br>
<br>
But if so, then I’d really like [to] get a digital copy of just that segment.<br>
<br>
It probably last[s] for about 10 minutes, I would estimate.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your assistance.<br>
<br>
DSL<br>
<br />
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<b>=================================</b><br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Subject: Re: My appearance on Larry King (radio)<br />
Date: 5/15/2018<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br />
No, sorry David, I do not have it.<br>
<br>
DVP<br>
<br>
<br>
<b>=================================</b><br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Subject: Re: My appearance on Larry King (radio)<br />
Date: 5/15/2018<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br />
DVP:<br>
<br>
Sorry to hear that.<br>
<br>
1. Before I engage in an effort to locate, retrieve, and peruse boxes of “tapes in storage”, do you have any suggestion about how I might proceed to obtain such an item? (From the King show, or “another” audiophile?)<br>
<br>
2. Have you had dealings with the Larry King show? Might you have a “Go To” person for this sort of request?<br>
<br>
3. Let me explain why it is pertinent:<br>
<br>
When I found the Wink photograph in mid-summer 1980, there was a rush (on my part) to investigate and to find out just who the “man in the bowtie was” (who winked at Johnson).<br>
<br>
In connection with this whirlwind of activity, I telephoned and spoke with—at length—Cecil Stoughton.<br>
<br>
That tape (or “those tapes”) exist in my storage.<br>
<br>
But, most important...<br>
<br>
4. I discussed this whole episode—more than once—on my multiple national book tours, the first commencing in mid-January 1981 (on which I appeared for three full hours).<br>
<br>
Consequently, that tape (or “those appearances”, because I am sure there was more than one, on several talk shows) comprise my “earliest recorded recollection” of Stoughton’s reaction to learning that I had obtained this photo which <b>(a)</b> he had personally participated in suppressing, for some 17 years and <b>(b)</b> had immediately brought to Washington, and showed to AG Robert Kennedy.<br>
<br>
So yes, I’m personally interested in “quoting myself” [from] one of these talk shows.<br>
<br>
Even today, the whole situation remains vivid in my memory; but I’d rather trust an audiotape of what I actually said, “on the air” (between January 1981 and March 1981) rather than rely on memory, which is over 36 years old.<br>
<br>
So...that’s the deal.<br>
<br>
I am going to (perhaps) “reach out” via the Internet and ask if there’s anyone “out there” who collected tapes of my appearances on talk shows.<br>
<br>
But that’s the reason I am so interested in obtaining that audio record.<br>
<br>
So if you “know anyone” or have any further suggestion(s), please do let me know.<br>
<br>
DSL<br>
<br>
<br>
<b>=================================</b><br />
<br />
<br />
<b>Subject: Re: My appearance on Larry King (radio)<br />
Date: 5/15/2018<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br />
David,<br>
<br>
I don't have any "inside" person who would be able to help you obtain the 1981 Larry King radio broadcast you seek. But I did find the following info when searching the Web just now which could be of some assistance. It's a Usenet forum post that says, in part....<br>
<br>
<i><b>"As Lifton himself told radio announcer Ben Baldwin, substituting for Larry King during a Mutual Radio interview on January 30, 1981, "[There's] some point where there's a line between the deceivers and the deceived." (Author's notes from radio program.)"</i></b><br>
<br>
The above excerpt, which was posted on August 26, 2000, came from this webpage [which is no longer available to view]:<br>
<br>
<b><a href="http://the-puzzle-palace.com/files/Fraud5.txt">http://the-puzzle-palace.com/files/Fraud5.txt</a></b><br>
<br>
I happen to know that "The Puzzle Palace" site is run by a conspiracy theorist named Anthony Marsh (whom you might have heard of before). He's been posting on the McAdams Usenet forum for decades. Tony Marsh is a bit of a nut (IMO) who just loves to argue with people (even when he agrees with them), [but it's possible] that he has a copy of the radio show you are seeking.<br>
<br>
Later,<br>
David V.P.<br>
<br>
<br>
<b>=================================</b><br />
<br>
<br>
<b>Subject: Re: My appearance on Larry King (radio)<br />
Date: 5/15/2018<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br>
Footnote/Clarification to last mail....<br>
<br>
I just realized that perhaps Tony Marsh is not the person who has physical possession of the Larry King tape in question. It was merely posted on Marsh's "Puzzle Palace" site in 2000. The Username at the top of that Usenet post is somebody calling himself (or herself) "Flounderball". No other (actual) name is provided. I don't think Marsh ever used fake usernames on the Web, however. But I guess it <i>could</i> be Marsh. I don't know.<br>
<br>
But, if you contact Marsh, he might be able to tell you who "Flounderball" is (if it's not Marsh himself), and therefore you might be able to track down who wrote that forum post dated 8/26/2000.<br>
<br>
DVP<br>
<br>
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<b>=================================</b><br />
<br>
<br>
<b>Subject: Re: My appearance on Larry King (radio)<br />
Date: 5/15/2018<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br>
Marsh Addendum #2.....<br>
<br>
I think that e-mail address for Tony Marsh at his "Puzzle" site might be out of date. If you need a currect e-mail address for him, I think I can provide it (via his recent posts at the McAdams forum). Let me know.<br>
<br>
DVP<br>
<br>
<br>
<b>=================================</b><br />
<br>
<br>
<b>Subject: Re: My appearance on Larry King (radio)<br />
Date: 5/16/2018<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br>
DVP:<br>
<br>
Yes, I <i>would</i> like Marsh's current email address.<br>
<br>
With 90% certainty, "Flounderball" is the late Roger Feinman.<br>
<br>
<b>[2022 DVP EDIT -- Lifton was correct. Go <a href="http://www.kenrahn.com/Marsh/Lifton/BTS&TN.TXT">here</a> and <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/Y1VaF25rnc0/m/AVygbcPQg50J">here</a>.]</b><br>
<br>
Marsh is a very peculiar person, and I don't know that he'd be willing to assist me, even if he had a transcript, much less the audio.<br>
<br>
But I can ask.<br>
<br>
DSL<br>
<br>
PS: I believe that he is (or was) a bus driver.<br>
<br>
Flounderball (that is, Feinman) would get personally exercised over my references to deception (just like the line or two that you quoted); so that's another indicia that it's him. I do not understand why. Just that he was that way.<br>
<br>
His psychological "mommy" was the late Sylvia Meager [sic], who also worked her magic over Jerry Policoff; as well as others.<br>
<br>
I (unfortunately) had personal dealings with her, and couldn't stand her. As you may know, she believed the lawyers on the WC should have been tried and put in jail.<br>
<br>
One of the things I will always remember Liebeler saying to me, in complete exasperation (this is circa 1966/67): <i>"David, Have you ever SEEN Sylvia Meager [sic]?"</i><br>
<br>
She was grossly overweight (by well over 100 pounds) and walked around in a huge fur coat.<br>
<br>
<br>
<b>=================================</b><br />
<br>
<br>
<b>Subject: Re: My appearance on Larry King (radio)<br />
Date: 5/16/2018<br />
From: David Von Pein<br />
To: David Lifton</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br>
Re: Anthony Marsh's current e-mail address....<br>
<br>
It will take some deduction to fill in all the letters here, but this is the info that can be obtained when clicking on the "Show Original" link for any of Marsh's recent Usenet posts....<br>
<br>
<b>[---This info has been deleted by DVP for reasons of privacy---]</b><br>
<br>
As you can see, Usenet doesn't give out the complete e-mail, only a portion of it. But it doesn't take an Einstein to figure out what the full address likely is.<br>
<br>
Re: Sylvia Meagher....<br>
<br>
I've never seen her (except for one photo), but I have heard her (once)....in the 1967 interview below:<br>
<br>
<b><i><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwt01dRKXYPda2dKR2RPdnNVaVk/view">INTERVIEW WITH SYLVIA MEAGHER</a></i></b><br>
<br>
DVP<br>
<br>
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<b>=================================</b><br />
<br>
<br>
<b>Subject: Re: My appearance on Larry King (radio)<br />
Date: 5/16/2018<br />
From: David Lifton<br />
To: David Von Pein</b><br />
<br />
------------------------------<br />
<br>
DVP:<br>
<br>
I had been provided the assets by the Larry King show, and I had given them to a friend. He is now searching for them, and if he finds them, then the problem is solved.<br>
<br>
We’ll see.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your advice and help.<br>
<br>
DSL<br>
<br>
<br>
<span style="font-size:157%;"><span style="color: blue;"><b>[End E-Mail Messages.]</b></span></span><br>
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<br>
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
<br>
Long-time JFK Assassination author and researcher David Lifton passed away (at the age of 83) on December 6th, 2022.<br>
<br>
Mr. Lifton's book <b><i><a href="http://best-evidence.blogspot.com">Best Evidence</a></i></b> was the very first book I ever bought (or read) about President Kennedy's assassination. I purchased a hardcover First Edition of the book in January of 1981. (And I wish I still had it in my collection, but unfortunately I do not.)<br>
<br>
I disagree with just about every single conclusion that Mr. Lifton came to in the book, but I still found <i>Best Evidence</i> to be a fascinating read. I can even recall the unique (and very pleasant) smell that the book emanated. It was always a pleasure to open it up and take a big whiff. (It's funny the things that make an impression on one's memory, isn't it?)<br>
<br>
Yes, I think David S. Lifton's "body alteration" and "casket switching" theories are pure bunk, but, boy oh boy, that man could sure write an impressive forum post. And I even had some <i>friendly</i> interactions with him from time to time too. :-)<br>
<br>
David's <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/profile/4784-david-lifton/content/">1,252 posts at <i>The Education Forum</i></a></b> cover a wide range of sub-topics concerning JFK's assassination, spanning a period of more than sixteen years, from <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/5317-james-files/?do=findComment&comment=74204">September 7, 2006</a></b>, to his last post on <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/19338-lifton-and-morningstar-nice-but-no-cigar/?do=findComment&comment=476721">October 31, 2022</a></b>.<br>
<br>
RIP, DSL. 😞 <br>
<br>
David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/28418-david-lifton-died-today/?do=findComment&comment=481718">December 8, 2022</a><br>
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-20332897445411932192024-03-01T03:20:00.000-08:002024-03-01T13:28:00.626-08:00 ASSORTED JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS (MORE THAN 1,000 POSTS) <center><base target="_blank"><br><span style="font-size: 164%;"><span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">"ASSORTED ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS"</span><span style="font-weight: bold;"> is a continuing series of Internet posts and articles relating in a variety of ways to the 1963 assassination of President <br />
John F. Kennedy:</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">======================</span></span><br />
<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/cb028bd49867f37e"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br />
</span></a></span><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255); font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1</span></a><br />
</span></p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/c257610ae301d5a4"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"></span></a></span><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255); font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-2.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 2</span></a><br />
</span></p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"></span></span><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-3.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 3</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-4.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 4</span></a><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br />
</span></span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-5.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 5</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-6.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 6</span></a><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-7.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br />
</span></a></span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-7.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 7</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-8.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 8</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-9.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 9</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-10.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 10</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-11.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 11</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-12.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 12</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-13.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 13</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-14.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 14</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-15.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 15</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-16.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 16</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-17.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 17</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-18.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 18</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-19.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 19</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-20.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 20</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-21.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 21</span></a><br />
</span></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-22.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 22</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-23.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 23</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-24.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 24</span></a><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-25.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 25</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br />
</span></span></p><p style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 130%;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-26.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 26</span></a></span><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-27.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 27</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-28.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 28</span></a><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-29.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 29</span></a></span><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-30.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 30</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-31.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 31</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-32.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 32</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-33.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 33</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-34.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 34</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-35.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 35</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-36.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 36</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-37.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 37</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-38.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 38</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-39.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 39</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-40.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 40</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-41.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 41</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-42.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 42</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-43.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 43</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-44.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 44</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-45.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 45</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-46.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 46</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-47.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 47</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-48.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 48</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-49.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 49</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-50.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 50</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-51.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 51</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-52.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 52</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-53.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 53</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-54.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 54</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-55.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 55</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-56.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 56</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-57.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 57</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-58.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 58</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-59.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 59</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-60.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 60</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-61.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 61</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-62.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 62</span></a><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-63.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 63</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-64.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 64</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-65.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 65</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-66.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 66</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-67.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 67</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-68.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 68</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-69.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 69</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-70.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 70</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-71.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 71</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-72.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 72</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-73.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 73</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-74.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 74</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-75.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 75</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-76.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 76</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-77.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 77</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-78.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 78</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-79.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 79</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-80.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 80</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-81.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 81</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-82.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 82</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-83.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 83</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-84.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 84</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-85.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 85</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-86.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 86</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-87.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 87</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-88.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 88</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-89.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 89</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-90.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 90</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-91.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 91</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-92.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 92</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-93.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 93</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-94.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 94</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-95.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 95</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-96.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 96</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-97.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 97</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-98.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 98</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-99.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 99</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-100.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 100</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-101.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 101</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-102.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 102</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-103.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 103</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-104.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 104</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-105.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 105</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-106.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 106</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-107.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 107</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-108.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 108</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-109.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 109</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-110.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 110</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-111.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 111</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-112.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 112</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-113.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 113</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-114.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 114</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-115.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 115</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-116.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 116</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-117.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 117</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-118.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 118</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-119.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 119</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-120.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 120</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-121.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 121</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-122.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 122</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-123.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 123</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-124.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 124</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-125.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 125</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-126.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 126</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-127.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 127</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-128.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 128</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-129.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 129</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-130.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 130</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-131.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 131</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-132.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 132</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-133.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 133</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-134.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 134</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-135.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 135</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-136.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 136</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-137.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 137</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-138.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 138</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-139.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 139</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-140.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 140</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-141.html"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">PART 141</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-142.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 142</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-143.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 143</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-144.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 144</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-145.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 145</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-146.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 146</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-147.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 147</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-148.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 148</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-149.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 149</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-150.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 150</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-151.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 151</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-152.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 152</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-153.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 153</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-154.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 154</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-155.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 155</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-156.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 156</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-157.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 157</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-158.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 158</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-159.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 159</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-160.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 160</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-161.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 161</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-162.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 162</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-163.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 163</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-164.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 164</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-165.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 165</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-166.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 166</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-167.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 167</span></a><br />
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-168.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 168</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-169.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 169</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-170.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 170</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-171.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 171</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-172.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 172</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-173.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 173</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-174.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 174</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-175.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 175</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-176.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 176</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-177.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 177</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-178.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 178</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-179.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 179</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-180.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 180</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-181.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 181</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-182.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 182</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-183.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 183</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-184.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 184</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-185.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 185</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-186.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 186</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-187.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 187</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-188.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 188</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-189.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 189</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-190.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 190</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-191.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 191</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-192.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 192</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-193.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 193</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-194.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 194</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-195.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 195</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-196.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 196</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-197.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 197</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-198.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 198</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-199.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 199</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-200.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 200</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-201.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 201</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-202.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 202</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-203.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 203</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-204.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 204</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-205.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 205</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-206.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 206</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-207.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 207</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-208.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 208</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-209.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 209</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-210.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 210</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-211.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 211</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-212.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 212</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-213.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 213</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-214.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 214</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-215.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 215</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-216.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 216</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-217.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 217</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-218.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 218</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-219.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 219</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-220.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 220</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-221.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 221</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-222.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 222</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-223.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 223</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-224.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 224</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-225.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 225</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-226.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 226</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-227.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 227</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-228.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 228</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-229.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 229</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-230.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 230</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-231.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 231</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-232.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 232</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-233.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 233</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-234.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 234</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-235.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 235</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-236.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 236</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-237.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 237</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-238.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 238</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-239.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 239</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-240.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 240</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-241.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 241</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-242.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 242</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-243.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 243</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-244.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 244</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-245.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 245</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-246.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 246</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-247.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 247</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-248.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 248</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-249.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 249</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-250.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 250</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-251.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 251</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-252.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 252</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-253.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 253</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-254.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 254</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-255.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 255</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-256.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 256</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-257.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 257</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-258.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 258</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-259.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 259</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-260.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 260</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-261.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 261</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-262.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 262</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-263.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 263</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-264.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 264</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-265.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 265</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-266.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 266</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-267.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 267</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-268.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 268</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-269.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 269</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-270.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 270</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-271.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 271</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-272.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 272</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-273.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 273</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-274.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 274</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-275.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 275</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-276.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 276</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-277.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 277</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-278.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 278</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-279.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 279</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-280.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 280</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-281.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 281</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-282.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 282</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-283.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 283</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-284.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 284</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-285.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 285</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-286.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 286</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-287.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 287</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-288.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 288</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-289.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 289</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-290.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 290</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-291.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 291</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-292.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 292</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-293.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 293</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-294.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 294</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-295.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 295</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-296.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 296</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-297.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 297</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-298.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 298</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-299.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 299</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-300.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 300</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-301.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 301</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-302.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 302</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-303.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 303</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-304.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 304</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-305.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 305</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-306.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 306</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-307.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 307</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-308.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 308</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-309.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 309</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-310.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 310</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-311.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 311</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-312.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 312</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-313.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 313</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-314.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 314</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-315.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 315</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-316.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 316</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-317.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 317</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-318.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 318</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-319.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 319</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-320.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 320</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-321.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 321</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-322.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 322</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-323.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 323</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-324.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 324</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-325.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 325</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-326.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 326</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-327.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 327</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-328.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 328</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-329.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 329</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-330.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 330</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-331.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 331</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-332.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 332</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-333.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 333</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-334.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 334</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-335.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 335</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-336.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 336</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-337.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 337</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-338.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 338</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-339.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 339</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-340.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 340</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-341.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 341</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-342.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 342</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-343.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 343</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-344.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 344</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-345.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 345</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-346.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 346</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-347.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 347</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-348.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 348</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-349.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 349</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-350.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 350</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-351.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 351</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-352.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 352</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-353.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 353</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-354.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 354</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-355.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 355</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-356.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 356</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-357.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 357</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-358.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 358</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-359.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 359</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-360.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 360</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-361.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 361</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-362.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 362</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-363.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 363</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-364.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 364</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-365.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 365</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-366.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 366</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-367.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 367</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-368.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 368</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-369.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 369</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-370.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 370</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-371.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 371</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-372.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 372</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-373.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 373</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-374.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 374</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-375.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 375</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-376.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 376</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-377.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 377</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-378.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 378</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-379.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 379</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-380.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 380</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-381.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 381</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-382.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 382</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-383.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 383</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-384.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 384</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-385.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 385</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-386.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 386</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-387.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 387</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-388.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 388</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-389.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 389</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-390.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 390</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-391.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 391</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-392.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 392</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-393.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 393</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-394.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 394</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-395.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 395</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-396.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 396</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-397.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 397</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-398.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 398</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-399.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 399</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-400.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 400</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-401.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 401</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-402.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 402</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-403.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 403</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-404.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 404</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-405.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 405</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-406.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 406</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-407.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 407</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-408.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 408</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-409.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 409</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-410.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 410</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-411.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 411</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-412.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 412</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-413.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 413</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-414.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 414</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-415.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 415</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-416.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 416</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-417.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 417</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-418.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 418</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-419.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 419</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-420.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 420</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-421.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 421</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-422.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 422</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-423.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 423</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-424.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 424</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-425.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 425</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-426.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 426</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-427.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 427</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-428.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 428</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-429.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 429</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-430.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 430</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-431.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 431</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-432.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 432</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-433.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 433</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-434.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 434</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-435.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 435</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-436.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 436</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-437.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 437</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-438.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 438</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-439.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 439</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-440.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 440</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-441.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 441</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-442.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 442</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-443.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 443</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-444.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 444</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-445.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 445</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-446.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 446</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-447.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 447</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-448.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 448</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-449.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 449</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-450.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 450</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-451.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 451</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-452.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 452</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-453.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 453</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-454.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 454</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-455.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 455</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-456.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 456</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-457.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 457</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-458.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 458</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-459.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 459</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-460.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 460</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-461.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 461</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-462.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 462</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-463.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 463</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-464.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 464</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-465.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 465</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-466.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 466</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-467.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 467</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-468.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 468</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-469.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 469</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-470.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 470</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-471.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 471</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-472.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 472</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-473.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 473</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-474.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 474</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-475.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 475</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-476.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 476</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-477.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 477</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-478.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 478</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-479.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 479</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-480.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 480</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-481.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 481</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-482.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 482</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-483.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 483</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-484.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 484</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-485.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 485</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-486.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 486</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-487.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 487</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-488.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 488</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-489.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 489</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-490.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 490</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-491.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 491</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-492.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 492</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-493.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 493</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-494.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 494</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-495.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 495</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-496.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 496</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-497.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 497</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-498.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 498</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-499.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 499</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-500.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 500</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-501.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 501</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-502.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 502</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-503.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 503</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-504.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 504</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-505.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 505</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-506.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 506</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-507.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 507</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-508.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 508</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-509.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 509</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-510.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 510</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-511.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 511</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-512.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 512</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-513.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 513</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-514.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 514</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-515.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 515</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-516.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 516</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-517.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 517</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-518.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 518</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-519.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 519</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-520.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 520</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-521.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 521</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-522.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 522</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-523.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 523</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-524.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 524</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-525.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 525</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-526.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 526</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-527.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 527</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-528.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 528</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-529.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 529</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-530.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 530</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-531.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 531</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-532.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 532</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-533.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 533</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-534.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 534</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-535.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 535</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-536.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 536</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-537.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 537</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-538.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 538</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-539.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 539</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-540.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 540</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-541.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 541</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-542.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 542</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-543.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 543</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-544.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 544</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-545.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 545</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-546.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 546</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-547.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 547</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-548.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 548</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-549.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 549</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-550.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 550</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-551.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 551</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-552.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 552</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-553.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 553</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-554.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 554</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-555.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 555</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-556.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 556</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-557.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 557</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-558.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 558</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-559.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 559</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-560.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 560</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-561.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 561</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-562.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 562</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-563.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 563</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-564.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 564</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-565.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 565</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-566.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 566</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-567.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 567</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-568.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 568</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-569.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 569</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-570.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 570</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-571.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 571</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-572.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 572</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-573.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 573</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-574.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 574</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-575.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 575</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-576.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 576</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-577.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 577</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-578.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 578</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-579.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 579</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-580.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 580</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-581.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 581</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-582.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 582</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-583.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 583</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-584.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 584</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-585.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 585</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-586.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 586</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-587.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 587</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-588.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 588</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-589.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 589</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-590.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 590</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-591.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 591</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-592.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 592</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-593.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 593</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-594.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 594</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-595.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 595</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-596.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 596</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-597.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 597</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-598.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 598</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-599.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 599</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-600.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 600</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-601.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 601</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-602.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 602</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-603.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 603</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-604.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 604</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-605.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 605</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-606.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 606</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-607.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 607</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-608.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 608</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-609.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 609</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-610.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 610</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-611.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 611</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-612.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 612</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-613.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 613</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-614.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 614</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-615.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 615</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-616.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 616</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-617.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 617</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-618.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 618</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-619.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 619</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-620.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 620</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-621.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 621</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-622.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 622</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-623.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 623</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-624.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 624</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-625.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 625</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-626.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 626</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-627.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 627</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-628.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 628</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-629.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 629</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-630.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 630</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-631.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 631</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-632.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 632</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-633.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 633</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-634.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 634</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-635.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 635</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-636.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 636</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-637.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 637</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-638.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 638</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-639.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 639</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-640.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 640</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-641.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 641</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-642.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 642</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-643.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 643</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-644.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 644</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-645.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 645</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-646.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 646</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-647.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 647</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-648.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 648</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-649.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 649</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-650.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 650</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-651.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 651</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-652.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 652</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-653.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 653</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-654.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 654</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-655.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 655</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-656.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 656</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-657.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 657</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-658.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 658</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-659.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 659</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-660.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 660</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-661.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 661</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-662.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 662</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-663.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 663</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-664.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 664</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-665.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 665</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-666.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 666</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-667.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 667</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-668.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 668</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-669.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 669</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-670.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 670</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-671.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 671</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-672.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 672</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-673.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 673</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-674.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 674</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-675.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 675</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-676.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 676</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-677.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 677</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-678.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 678</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-679.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 679</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-680.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 680</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-681.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 681</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-682.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 682</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-683.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 683</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-684.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 684</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-685.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 685</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-686.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 686</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-687.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 687</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-688.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 688</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-689.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 689</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-690.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 690</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-691.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 691</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-692.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 692</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-693.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 693</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-694.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 694</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-695.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 695</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-696.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 696</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-697.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 697</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-698.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 698</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-699.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 699</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-700.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 700</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-701.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 701</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-702.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 702</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-703.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 703</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-704.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 704</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-705.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 705</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-706.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 706</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-707.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 707</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-708.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 708</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-709.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 709</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-710.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 710</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-711.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 711</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-712.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 712</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-713.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 713</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-714.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 714</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-715.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 715</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-716.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 716</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-717.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 717</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-718.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 718</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-719.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 719</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-720.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 720</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-721.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 721</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-722.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 722</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-723.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 723</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-724.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 724</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-725.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 725</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-726.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 726</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-727.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 727</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-728.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 728</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-729.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 729</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-730.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 730</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-731.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 731</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-732.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 732</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-733.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 733</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-734.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 734</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-735.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 735</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-736.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 736</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-737.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 737</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-738.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 738</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-739.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 739</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-740.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 740</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-741.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 741</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-742.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 742</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-743.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 743</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-744.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 744</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-745.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 745</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-746.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 746</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-747.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 747</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-748.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 748</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-749.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 749</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-750.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 750</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-751.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 751</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-752.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 752</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-753.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 753</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-754.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 754</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-755.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 755</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-756.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 756</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-757.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 757</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-758.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 758</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-759.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 759</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-760.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 760</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-761.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 761</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-762.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 762</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-763.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 763</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-764.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 764</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-765.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 765</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-766.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 766</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-767.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 767</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-768.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 768</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-769.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 769</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-770.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 770</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-771.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 771</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-772.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 772</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-773.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 773</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-774.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 774</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-775.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 775</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-776.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 776</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-777.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 777</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-778.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 778</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-779.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 779</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-780.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 780</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-781.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 781</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-782.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 782</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-783.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 783</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-784.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 784</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-785.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 785</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-786.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 786</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-787.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 787</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-788.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 788</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-789.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 789</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-790.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 790</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-791.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 791</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-792.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 792</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-793.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 793</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-794.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 794</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-795.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 795</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-796.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 796</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-797.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 797</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-798.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 798</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-799.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 799</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-800.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 800</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-801.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 801</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-802.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 802</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-803.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 803</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-804.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 804</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-805.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 805</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-806.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 806</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-807.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 807</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-808.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 808</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-809.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 809</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-810.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 810</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-811.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 811</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-812.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 812</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-813.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 813</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-814.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 814</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-815.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 815</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-816.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 816</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-817.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 817</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-818.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 818</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-819.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 819</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-820.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 820</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-821.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 821</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-822.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 822</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-823.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 823</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-824.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 824</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-825.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 825</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-826.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 826</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-827.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 827</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-828.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 828</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-829.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 829</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-830.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 830</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-831.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 831</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-832.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 832</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-833.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 833</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-834.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 834</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-835.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 835</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-836.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 836</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-837.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 837</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-838.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 838</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-839.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 839</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-840.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 840</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-841.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 841</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-842.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 842</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-843.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 843</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-844.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 844</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-845.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 845</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"><br />
</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-846.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 846</span></a><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; font-size: 180%;"></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-847.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 847</span></span></a><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-848.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 848</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-849.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 849</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-850.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 850</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-851.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 851</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-852.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 852</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-853.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 853</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-854.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 854</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-855.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 855</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-856.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 856</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-857.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 857</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-858.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 858</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-859.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 859</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-860.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 860</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-861.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 861</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-862.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 862</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-863.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 863</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-864.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 864</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-865.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 865</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-866.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 866</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-867.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 867</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-868.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 868</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-869.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 869</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-870.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 870</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-871.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 871</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-872.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 872</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-873.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 873</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-874.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 874</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-875.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 875</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-876.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 876</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-877.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 877</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-878.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 878</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-879.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 879</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-880.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 880</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-881.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 881</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-882.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 882</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-883.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 883</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-884.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 884</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-885.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 885</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-886.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 886</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 887</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-888.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 888</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-889.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 889</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-890.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 890</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-891.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 891</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-892.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 892</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-893.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 893</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-894.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 894</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-895.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 895</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-896.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 896</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-897.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 897</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-898.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 898</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-899.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 899</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-900.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 900</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-901.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 901</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-902.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 902</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-903.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 903</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-904.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 904</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-905.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 905</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-906.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 906</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-907.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 907</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-908.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 908</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-909.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 909</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-910.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 910</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-911.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 911</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-912.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 912</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-913.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 913</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-914.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 914</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-915.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 915</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-916.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 916</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-917.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 917</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-918.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 918</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-919.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 919</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-920.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 920</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-921.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 921</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-922.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 922</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-923.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 923</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-924.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 924</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-925.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 925</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-926.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 926</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-927.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 927</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-928.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 928</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-929.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 929</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-930.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 930</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-931.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 931</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-932.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 932</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-933.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 933</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-934.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 934</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-935.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 935</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-936.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 936</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-937.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 937</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-938.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 938</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-939.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 939</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-940.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 940</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-941.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 941</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-942.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 942</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-943.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 943</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-944.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 944</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-945.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 945</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-946.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 946</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-947.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 947</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-948.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 948</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-949.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 949</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-950.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 950</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-951.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 951</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-952.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 952</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-953.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 953</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-954.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 954</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-955.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 955</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-956.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 956</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-957.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 957</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-958.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 958</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-959.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 959</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-960.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 960</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-961.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 961</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-962.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 962</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-963.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 963</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-964.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 964</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-965.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 965</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-966.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 966</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-967.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 967</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-968.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 968</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-969.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 969</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-970.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 970</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-971.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 971</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-972.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 972</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-973.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 973</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-974.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 974</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-975.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 975</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-976.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 976</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-977.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 977</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-978.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 978</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-979.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 979</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-980.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 980</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-981.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 981</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-982.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 982</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-983.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 983</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-984.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 984</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-985.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 985</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-986.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 986</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-987.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 987</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-988.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 988</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-989.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 989</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-990.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 990</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-991.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 991</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-992.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 992</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-993.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 993</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-994.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 994</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-995.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 995</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-996.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 996</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-997.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 997</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-998.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 998</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-999.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 999</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1000.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1000</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1001.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1001</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1002.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1002</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1003.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1003</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1004.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1004</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1005.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1005</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1006.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1006</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1007.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1007</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1008.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1008</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1009.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1009</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1010.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1010</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1011.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1011</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1012.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1012</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1013.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1013</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1014.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1014</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1015.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1015</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1016.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1016</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1017.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1017</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1018.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1018</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1019.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1019</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1020.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1020</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1021.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1021</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1022.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1022</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1023.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1023</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1024.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1024</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1025.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1025</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1026.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1026</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1027.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1027</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1028.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1028</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1029.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1029</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1030.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1030</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1031.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1031</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1032.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1032</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1033.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1033</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1034.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1034</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1035.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1035</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1036.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1036</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1037.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1037</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1038.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1038</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1039.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1039</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1040.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1040</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1041.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1041</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1042.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1042</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1043.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1043</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1044.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1044</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1045.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1045</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1046.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1046</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1047.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1047</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1048.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1048</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1049.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1049</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1050.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1050</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1051.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1051</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1052.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1052</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1053.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1053</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1054.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1054</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1055.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1055</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1056.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1056</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1057.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1057</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1058.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1058</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1059.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1059</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1060.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1060</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1061.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1061</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1062.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1062</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1063.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1063</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1064.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1064</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1065.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1065</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1066.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1066</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1067.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1067</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1068.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1068</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1069.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1069</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1070.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1070</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1071.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1071</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1072.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1072</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1073.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1073</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1074.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1074</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1075.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1075</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1076.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1076</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1077.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1077</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1078.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1078</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1079.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1079</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1080.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1080</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1081.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1081</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1082.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1082</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1083.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1083</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1084.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1084</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1085.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1085</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1086.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1086</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1087.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1087</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1088.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1088</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1089.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1089</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1090.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1090</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1091.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1091</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1092.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1092</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1093.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1093</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1094.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1094</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1095.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1095</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1096.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1096</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1097.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1097</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1098.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1098</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1099.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1099</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1100.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1100</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1101.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1101</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1102.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1102</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1103.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1103</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1104.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1104</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1105.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1105</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1106.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1106</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1107.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1107</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1108.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1108</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1109.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1109</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1110.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1110</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1111.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1111</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1112.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1112</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1113.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1113</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1114.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1114</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1115.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1115</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1116.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1116</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1117.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1117</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1118.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1118</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1119.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1119</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1120.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1120</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1121.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1121</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1122.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1122</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1123.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1123</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1124.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1124</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1125.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1125</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1126.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1126</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1127.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1127</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1128.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1128</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1129.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1129</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1130.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1130</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1131.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1131</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1132.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1132</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1133.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1133</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1134.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1134</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1135.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1135</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1136.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1136</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1137.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1137</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1138.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1138</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1139.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1139</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1140.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1140</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1141.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1141</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1142.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1142</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1143.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1143</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1144.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1144</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1145.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1145</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1146.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1146</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1147.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1147</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1148.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1148</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1149.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1149</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1150.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1150</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1151.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1151</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1152.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1152</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1153.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1153</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1154.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1154</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1155.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1155</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1156.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1156</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1157.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1157</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1158.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1158</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1159.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1159</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1160.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1160</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1161.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1161</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1162.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1162</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1163.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1163</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1164.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1164</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1165.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1165</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1166.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1166</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1167.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1167</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1168.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1168</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1169.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1169</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1170.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1170</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1171.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1171</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1172.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1172</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1173.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1173</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1174.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1174</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1175.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1175</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1176.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1176</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1177.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1177</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1178.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1178</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1179.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1179</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1180.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1180</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1181.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1181</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1182.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1182</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1183.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1183</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1184.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1184</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1185.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1185</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1186.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1186</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1187.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1187</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1188.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1188</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1189.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1189</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1190.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1190</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1191.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1191</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1192.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1192</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1193.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1193</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1194.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1194</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1195.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1195</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1196.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1196</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1197.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1197</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1198.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1198</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1199.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1199</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1200.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1200</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1201.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1201</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1202.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1202</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1203.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1203</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1204.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1204</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1205.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1205</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1206.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1206</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1207.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1207</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1208.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1208</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1209.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1209</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1210.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1210</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1211.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1211</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1212.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1212</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1213.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1213</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1214.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1214</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1215.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1215</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1216.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1216</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1217.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1217</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1218.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1218</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1219.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1219</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1220.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1220</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1221.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1221</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1222.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1222</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1223.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1223</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1224.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1224</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1225.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1225</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1226.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1226</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1227.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1227</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1228.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1228</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1229.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1229</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1230.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1230</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1231.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1231</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1232.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1232</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1233.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1233</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1234.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1234</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1235.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1235</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1236.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1236</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1237.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1237</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1238.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1238</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1239.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1239</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1240.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1240</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1241.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1241</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1242.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1242</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1243.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1243</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1244.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1244</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1245.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1245</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1246.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1246</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1247.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1247</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1248.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1248</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1249.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1249</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1250.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1250</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1251.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1251</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1252.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1252</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1253.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1253</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1254.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1254</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1255.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1255</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1256.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1256</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1257.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1257</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1258.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1258</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1259.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1259</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1260.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1260</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1261.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1261</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1262.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1262</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1263.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1263</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1264.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1264</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1265.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1265</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1266.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1266</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1267.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1267</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1268.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1268</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1269.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1269</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1270.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1270</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1271.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1271</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1272.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1272</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1273.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1273</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1274.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1274</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1275.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1275</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1276.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1276</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1277.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1277</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1278.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1278</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1279.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1279</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1280.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1280</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1281.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1281</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1282.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1282</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1283.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1283</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1284.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1284</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1285.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1285</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1286.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1286</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1287.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1287</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1288.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1288</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1289.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1289</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1290.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1290</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1291.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1291</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1292.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1292</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1293.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1293</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1294.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1294</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1295.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1295</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2018/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1296.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1296</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1297.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1297</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1298.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1298</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1299.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1299</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1300.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1300</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1301.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1301</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1302.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1302</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1303.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1303</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1304.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1304</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1305.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1305</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1306.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1306</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1307.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1307</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1308.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1308</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1309.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1309</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1310.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1310</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1311.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1311</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1312.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1312</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1313.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1313</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1314.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1314</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1315.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1315</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1316.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1316</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1317.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1317</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1318.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1318</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1319.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1319</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1320.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1320</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1321.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1321</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1322.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1322</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1323.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1323</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1324.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1324</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1325.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1325</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1326.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1326</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1327.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1327</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1328.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1328</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1329.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1329</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1330.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1330</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1331.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1331</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1332.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1332</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1333.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1333</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1334.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1334</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1335.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1335</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1336.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1336</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1337.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1337</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2020/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1338.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1338</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2020/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1339.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1339</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2020/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1340.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1340</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2020/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1341.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1341</span></a></span><br>
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1342.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1342</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1343.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1343</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1344.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1344</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1345.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1345</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1346.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1346</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1347.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1347</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1348.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1348</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1349.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1349</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1350.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1350</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1351.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1351</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1352.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1352</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1353.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1353</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1354.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1354</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1355.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1355</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1356.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1356</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1357.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1357</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1358.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1358</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1359.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1359</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1360.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1360</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1361.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1361</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1362.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1362</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1363.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1363</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1364.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1364</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/06/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1365.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1365</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1366.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1366</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1367.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1367</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1368.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1368</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1369.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1369</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/11/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1370.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1370</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1371.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1371</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2024/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1372.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1372</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2024/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1373.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1373</span></a></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 130%;"><a style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);" href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2024/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1374.html"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">PART 1374</span></a></span><br />
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-9509051133514622962024-03-01T03:10:00.000-08:002024-03-01T11:57:21.286-08:00 "BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT" BY MEL AYTON with DAVID VON PEIN (BOOK PAGE) <br />
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<center><span style="font-size:195%;"><b>BACK COVER <br />
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<center><span style="font-size:232%;"><b>EXCERPT FROM</span></b><br />
<span style="font-size:185%;"><b><i>"Beyond Reasonable Doubt:<br />
The Warren Report And <br />
Lee Harvey Oswald's Guilt <br />
And Motive 50 Years On"</i>:</span></b></center><br />
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The assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963, is one of the most studied and most controversial events in the history of the world. It was a pivotal and life–changing event for many people around the globe. <br />
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Ever since the President was killed on the streets of Dallas, Texas, rumors of conspiracy, cover–up, witness coercion, altered evidence, hidden assassins, corrupt and dishonest governmental and police officials, and a host of other rumors and speculation about President Kennedy's murder have flourished and grown to monumental proportions.<br />
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Regardless of how much evidence is presented which indicates Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt in the two murders he was charged with committing in Dallas on November 22, 1963, the members of the <i>Anybody But Oswald</i> club will find some way to disregard that evidence. They will merely claim that all of the evidence against Oswald (and there's a great deal of it, as this book will show) has been planted, faked, manipulated, or manufactured in order to frame the 24–year–old ex–Marine named Oswald for the murders of both John F. Kennedy and Dallas policeman J.D. Tippit.<br />
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As will be shown in many places throughout this book, President Kennedy's assassination has been <i>falsely</i> shrouded in mystery and cloaked within a web of <i>perceived</i> "conspiracy" for fifty years. But the contents of this book will demonstrate that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered President John Fitzgerald Kennedy and will also demonstrate that conspiracy very likely played no part in Oswald's actions on that terrible Friday in Dallas back in 1963.<br />
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David Von Pein<br />
March/April 2013<br />
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<center><span style="font-size:275%;"><b>CHAPTER LIST:</span></b></center><br />
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<span style="font-size:155%;"><b>PREFACE</b><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 1</b> -- <i>A NATIONAL OBSESSION</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 2</b> -- <i>GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATIONS: THE WARREN COMMISSION AND THE HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSASSINATIONS</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 3</b> -- <i>DAMNING EVIDENCE</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 4</b> -- <i>THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY, <br />
THE HEAD SHOT, AND THE GRASSY KNOLL</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 5</b> -- <i>CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 6</b> -- <i>AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH</i><br />
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<b>PHOTO SECTION</b><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 7</b> -- <i>THE USUAL SUSPECTS</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 8</b> -- <i>THE CIA-DID-IT THEORY</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 9</b> -- <i>THE NEW ORLEANS DEBACLE</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 10</b> -- <i>OSWALD’S DEFENDERS</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 11</b> -- <i>THE CASTRO CONNECTION</i><br />
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<b>CHAPTER 12</b> -- <i>THE JFK ASSASSINATION LEGACY</i><br />
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<b>NOTES & SOURCES</b><br />
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<b>APPENDIX 1</b> -- <i>Additional Controversial Issues Surrounding The JFK Assassination</i> <br />
by David Von Pein<br />
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<b>APPENDIX 2</b> -- <i>Replication Of The HSCA <br />
Weiss & Aschkenasy Acoustic Analysis</i> <br />
by Michael O'Dell<br />
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<b>BIBLIOGRAPHY</b><br />
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<b>Total number of pages: 471.</b></span><br />
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<center><span style="font-size:275%;"><b>FYI....</span></b></center><br />
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<b><i><a href="http://beyond-reasonable-doubt-book.blogspot.com">"Beyond Reasonable Doubt"</a></i></b>, published in late 2014, is partly a rewrite of Mel Ayton's previous JFK book published in 2002 (<i><b><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1903953219?ie=UTF8&tag=dvsre-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1903953219">"The JFK Assassination: Dispelling The Myths"</a></b></i>).<br />
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Mel wants this revised and updated volume to be looked upon as an alternate (and more compact) "Lone Assassin" source to Vincent Bugliosi's much bigger book, <i><b><a href="http://reclaiminghistory.blogspot.com/">"Reclaiming History"</a></b></i>.<br />
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I was somewhat disappointed that <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-926.html#BRD-Editing">some of the things</a></b> I originally submitted had to be cut out of the book, and I'm not happy at all about the fact there's no index (more about that <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9Hr4903YnXE/Wqn7SnfdNxI/AAAAAAABOac/Pasi707g70wEiCBN7wb8BmLcQut76YlNACLcBGAs/s3000-h/Emails-From-DVP-To-Mel-Ayton-Regarding-BRD-Book-August-7-2014.png">HERE</a></b>), but I'm just thrilled that someone like Mel Ayton wanted me to add my two cents to his manuscript. For that, I am deeply grateful.<br />
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There is only one factual error that I noticed in the book--and it's a very minor error that appears in a caption attached to one of the pictures in the photo section. (And, wouldn't you know it, that is the one and only section of the book that I was unable to proofread before it went to press.) <br />
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The incorrect caption concerns the photograph taken by Jack Beers in the basement of the Dallas police station as Jack Ruby was shooting Lee Harvey Oswald. The inaccurate caption says that the photo is the prize-winning picture taken by Robert Jackson. But it's really <b><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/06/kennedy-gallery-100.html">the Beers image</a></b>. Hopefully, there won't be too many conspiracy theorists who want to crucify Mel Ayton or myself for this captioning mistake. :-) [<b><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=22731#comment-327299">Related Discussion.</a></b>]<br />
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<b>EDIT:</b> There is one particular conspiracist who seems to want my head on a platter after he noticed a passage in the BRD book that I now wish would have been phrased in a slightly different manner. I discuss it <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1028.html#Oswald-Leaving-Building">HERE</a></b>.<br />
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David Von Pein<br />
December 2014<br />
January 2016<br />
March 2016<br />
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<b>Also.....</b><br />
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The blurb on the back cover of the book, where it says a <i><b>"clear motive"</i></b> for Oswald's actions is provided in <i>"Beyond Reasonable Doubt"</i>, is grossly overstated. And I wish like heck that that boastful blurb could have been changed before the book was printed. <br />
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I say "overstated" because Lee Oswald's motive can only be <i><b>guessed at</i></b> by authors. No definitive or <i>absolute</i> motive has ever been established or proved to explain why Oswald shot President Kennedy. We can really only take educated <i>guesses</i>. So any book that claims Oswald's motive was "clear" is probably overstating the situation. So that's why I wish I had been able to change that word ("clear") to "probable" on the back cover of <i>BRD</i>. My apologies to any readers who find that blurb to be an exaggeration....because I agree....I think it's an exaggeration too. But, rest assured, I wasn't the person who wrote that word in that blurb that appears on the book's <b><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Lw2l8OJa1Vc/VCG7Uo3VfNI/AAAAAAAA_4M/7eg6rpTzlwQ/s1600-h/Beyond-Reasonable-Doubt-Back-Cover.png">back cover</a></b>.<br />
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David Von Pein<br />
March 9, 2015<br />
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<span style="font-size:118%;"><i>"This is a very good book and one of the best resources on the Kennedy assassination I have ever read and a nice companion to "Reclaiming History" by Vincent Bugliosi and "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner. The manner in which Mr. Ayton and Mr. Von Pein present the information is very effective. .... A very useful book, very comprehensive, easy to read and well written. So, anyone interested in the Kennedy case must have a copy of this book."</i></span><br />
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<span style="font-size:118%;"><i>"'Beyond Reasonable Doubt' is co-authored by two of my favourite assassination writers/commentators. For me, Ayton and Von Pein are a dream-ticket. Ayton is studious and measured, whilst Von Pein is battle-hardened and caustic. Ayton's academic credentials, allied with Von Pein's years of ferocious online exchanges with the baying masses of the Lee Harvey Oswald fan club, have come together in this outstanding book. This meeting-of-minds is the iron fist inside the velvet glove of assassination writing.<br />
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For readers who are looking for a no-nonsense introduction to a case that has been mangled and misrepresented by legions of cynics and paranoiacs for half-a-century, 'Beyond Reasonable Doubt' is an ideal starting point.<br />
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The bulk of the book is given over to re-examining issues that have long been resolved. Unfortunately these issues can't be put to rest because the amateur researchers seem to feel that they are better qualified than the professionals to conduct investigations and reach conclusions. The 'Miss Marple' brigade will be with us for a long time yet, it seems. Hence the need for books like 'Beyond Reasonable Doubt'.<br />
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Do I like or love this book? I love it! Readers who are grounded in provable facts and common sense will love it too."</i></span><br />
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<span style="font-size:145%;"><b>— Barry Ryder; <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R3CVSPTY4L4RID">May 8, 2015</a></b></span><br />
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<span style="font-size:118%;"><i>"I found 'Beyond Reasonable Doubt' to be a very well written, easily readable book, and not simply a Warren Commission apology book. The author does not give the Warren Commission a free pass, and rightly so.<br />
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Having David Von Pein's name attached to this book, and his contribution to BRD, is only a plus. Mr. Von Pein is one of the most knowledgeable, respected researchers/archivists around and has amassed an enormous archive of <a href="http://dvp-jfk-blogs.blogspot.com">JFK-related material and blogs</a> that is unmatched on the internet. <br />
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The contribution Michael O'Dell provides concerning his attempt to recreate the Weiss & Aschkenasy acoustic study results for the HSCA is, in my opinion, nothing short of stunning, and should be regarded as the historical standard of truth about the W&A/HSCA final conclusions of a so-called "possible conspiracy". <br />
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A welcome feature in the <b><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UM80OV0?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B00UM80OV0&linkCode=xm2&tag=dvsre-20">Kindle version</a></b> of BRD are clickable links found in the Notes and Sources section as well as links to DVP's blog. This feature alone may make the Kindle version the way to go with this book. <br />
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'Beyond Reasonable Doubt' lives up to its title for 'reasonable' people who wish to learn about the assassination, and learn why many theories put forth by conspiracy theorists hopelessly fall flat under close scrutiny."</i></span><br />
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<span style="font-size:145%;"><b>— Michael Giampaolo; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/R2XS254UF97OA3">April 26, 2015</a></b></span><br />
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<span style="font-size:118%;"><i>"These gents, especially Mr. Von Pein, who I had the pleasure of debating for 24 hours</i> <b>[<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-889.html">HERE</a>]</b><i>, are very sincere in their contention that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin of President Kennedy and the murderer of Officer Tippit. Whatever your own feelings, you can be sure that the authors have done their due diligence and are "calling it as they see it". An all around compelling read that belongs on the shelf of all assassination researchers. No matter what your personal feelings are regarding the big event - this book will be a worthwhile addition to your library."</i></span><br />
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<span style="font-size:145%;"><b>— Bruce Alan; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/R1QZKL0GQ4DVZY">February 1, 2015</a></b></span><br />
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Thanks, David. I've bookmarked this one. Hopefully next time I want to check out a related video, I'll remember to go to your library first. <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CHRIS BENNETT SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thanks, DVP.<br />
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I've watched dozens of hours of material that you have collected. Always appreciated.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">HUGO LANGENDOEN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thanks for this great list of resources. It is wonderful to have so many items in one place!<br>
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Every time I take a look, I see / find something interesting. <br />
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Thanks for all the great work you are doing with this collection.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL WALTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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This is a really nice collection, David. The CC [Closed Captioning] button shows up, but when I click on it, the subtitles (auto mode) don't come on. Is it possible for you to go into it and turn it on? It wouldn't just be for me, as you can imagine how older folks actually do use captions.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I have no control over that Captions button, Michael. There is no way for me to turn it "on" or "off". But that CC/Subtitles button shouldn't be there at all. No captions have ever been available for Google Drive videos [as of early December 2016]. That option, in fact, was just added to the function controls on the Drive video players within the last few weeks. Prior to that, no Captions button was there at all.<br />
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What I think has happened is that the Google Drive players have now totally mimicked the players used at YouTube. (They're both "Google" entities, of course.) They are identical in design, and they've now decided to transfer the "Captions/Subtitles" button over to the Drive players too, even though the captions are not available at Drive.<br />
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Now, it's quite possible, Michael, that captions <b>will</b> be available for those Drive videos at some point in the future. Perhaps the recent addition of the Caption button means that they plan to make such an option available there soon. I really don't know.<br />
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Of course, as you no doubt know, those "Auto Captions" that are used at YouTube are almost useless. They only represent a loose approximation of the actual quotes from the video, and most of the time the results are hilarious. But on some occasions, a few of the words being spoken are actually represented correctly in the captions. But more often than not, they are mangled badly.<br />
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I occasionally click on the Caption button on my Drive videos just to see if that option will start working some day. But so far, no dice. <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL WALTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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What you say makes sense, David. For what it's worth, the auto function is getting much better. I read a while back that Google bought out this small start-up that has come up with a better speech to text translator. After I read that, over the ensuing months I've noticed a big improvement on auto captions. For example, I was watching the 11/22 Cronkite bulletin elsewhere on YT and was amazed at how much better it was.<br />
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You can always tell when it's auto vs inserted text when the captions roll up one line at a time.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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That's good news. I hope Google Drive will add the Captions to their videos in the future. It would be quite useful to many people, as you suggested.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA SAID:</span></b><br />
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Dave,<br />
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Your collections are outstanding, man!<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Much obliged, Vince.<br />
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Finding a rare video (or audio) gem to add to my archive is always a treat. Such as <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzEbCwH8buS1RXBRRS1PbE1CNzA/view">this 1961 interview with President Kennedy</a></b> [also embedded below], which was done live from the President's box in the stands at Griffith Stadium in Washington prior to the opening baseball game of the '61 season. It is the only time (to date) that a POTUS has been interviewed from the stands at a baseball game. That particular video is especially satisfying for me, because it combines two of my favorite subjects for archival purposes—<b>JFK</b> and <b>baseball</b>.<br />
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<iframe src="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzEbCwH8buS1RXBRRS1PbE1CNzA/preview" width="530" height="398"></iframe><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL WALTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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It's nice to see you have <b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2009/10/cincinnati-reds-index.html#1970s">70's Reds games</a></b> on your channel. I grew up cheering for Rose, Bench, Morgan and the others. I remember when I was 7 years old, we walked over from Newport to the newly opened Riverfront. We had good blue seats and before the game, Bench was down by the rail signing autographs. I went down late and tried to reach my hand through the others to see if he'd take it. He actually pushed hands away to make a "parting of the seas" and reached up and grabbed mine to sign. A great moment for me as he was one of my favorites along with Rose.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Michael,<br />
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I had a similar experience at Riverfront as a 10-year-old in 1972, which I talk about in <b><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130723071200/https://www.amazon.com/review/R2PS4G6C1B0NMX">this Amazon review</a></b> (I still have this book too).<br />
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<a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2009/12/johnny-bench.html"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/Sxo0LOQ_9aI/AAAAAAAABto/1UW6DYRqgrI/s1600/Johnny+Bench+Book+Cover.JPG"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALLAN G. JOHNSON SAID:</span></b><br />
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I don't know if it's my new laptop or the new windows 10 OS, but the videos and audio on your site are awesome. They are quick to access and run flawlessly. Your site is still the best one-stop resource for both original and latest material on this subject, as well as everything else you post on it.<br />
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Well done.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JEAN DAVISON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Great work, David, as usual. Thanks for putting that online.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thank you (all)!<br />
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P.S./FYI -- I have added dozens of additional links to the Index in the last few days (re: movies, more baseball games, another JFK speech [from <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2oJmFGgfM3zRVJWV1lSd1piN0U/view">10/26/63</a></b>], a rare interview with <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2oJmFGgfM3zSEh3RmJHdFVDeUU/view">Johnny Bench</a></b> [when he was just 20 years old], and many other miscellaneous items).<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT SAID:</span></b><br />
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WOW. One more thing to thank you for, David. That is an awesome collection of baseball audio and videos you have there, including one that is near and dear to my heart, <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3NJQaDV0bBxQWtOQ09XQnl1UWc/view">game 7 of the 1968 World Series</a></b>, in which Mickey Lolich outdueled Bob Gibson to complete a Tiger comeback from being down 3 games to 1. As a lifelong fan of the Tigers, that game is in my top 3 favorite sporting events of all time. I was a high school senior at the time and the game began while I was in class. .... I made it home in time to see the last inning. Now I'll be able to watch that game from the start.<br />
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I'm going out on a limb and guessing you are a fan of the Cincinnati Reds. I'm very interested in that interview with Johnny Bench. My family moved to Columbus, OH in 1966 and I believe it was about a year later he made his first appearance with the Reds. I never became a Reds fan, but you couldn't help but be impressed by how good Bench was. You just couldn't steal second base on him when he first came up. <br />
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[...]<br />
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I have a challenge for you. If you remember a few years ago, you asked [in <br />
<b><a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/1DeEVtrR5LM/Q1AksTVPZroJ">this 2011 Internet post</a></b>] why there weren't more video clips of other visits JFK made to other cities. I pointed out that typically such videos weren't saved because storage space cost money. I pointed out that even videos of great sporting events were not saved except for highlights and I pointed out as an example game 7 of the 1960 World Series in which the Pirates beat the Yankees on Mazeroski's lead-off 9th inning home run. <br />
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Even though it was one of the iconic games in the history of baseball, nobody thought to save a tape of it other than the highlights. At least that was what was believed for years. Then somebody discovered a film in Bing Crosby's vault of that game. Crosby was part owner of the Pirates at the time, but he couldn't attend the World Series because he was booked to perform in Paris at the same time. He was able to listen to the game on Armed Forces radio. Back home, he had someone film the TV broadcast of the game. It turned out to be the only footage of one of the greatest baseball games played. <br />
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When it was discovered, ESPN acquired the rights to it and played the entire game in a special broadcast. If you could somehow score a copy of that game, it would be a great addition to your library. Maybe you already have and I just overlooked it. If so, let me apologize now. In any case, I will be looking at some of those old broadcasts, particularly the 1968 World Series game.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Hi John!<br />
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Yes, I'm a Reds fan. (Although I don't follow too much baseball these days, except for the Cubs amazing win in the 2016 World Series.) But back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, I kept track of every Reds game and every Reds player. I would keep track of all the stats by hand (via my pocket calculator and a manual Olympia typewriter with sticky keys). How's <i>that</i> for dedication? :-)<br />
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And it was during those years when I was unbelievably obsessed with Cincinnati Reds baseball (the 1970s and '80s) that enabled me to also record many Reds radio highlights on audio cassette tapes, which in recent years I've transferred to digital copies for my computer, and I've now added those recordings to my audio/video index too [linked below]:<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-rcjDGNFEH_OE05Nk9RVVkxVUU?resourcekey=0-9cT08hotW7zuYh0TiV7XrQ"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v12TVaC33g8/XanFNasQfEI/AAAAAAABSwE/gpM6slm-YMwBKyPF38CpJmMZ9sogkZf3gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Cincinnati-Reds-Games-And-Highlights-Logo.png"></a><br />
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And I want to say "Thanks" to you, John, for bringing up the rare TV broadcast of Game 7 of the 1960 World Series. It's been available on YouTube for two years now, and I've watched it twice. But until you coaxed me today to add it to my own Index of programs, I had not yet done so (and I'm not quite sure why I hadn't). I had been satisfied, instead, to stick with the last two innings of the <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B12YXQEsPbKDZTUxUjZWbTNhS2c/view">radio broadcast</a></b> of that classic game.<br />
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But after reading your "challenge", John, I've now added the complete television broadcast of that 1960 game to my archives too, <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jmTSujp3yE1OpsTady84Uwmsv1aBbxF_/view">right here</a></b>.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ROBIN UNGER SAID:</span></b><br />
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Large extensive Archive, David.<br />
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I can see that you must have spent thousands of hours collecting that material and uploading it Online.<br />
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I for one appreciate the hard work that has gone into creating this resource.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL WALTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Agree with Robin. Unbelievable amount of work and effort David has put into his archive, and I think the historical record is better for it. Kudos to David.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thank you, Robin (and Michael).<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
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More stuff from the <i>Master Index</i>:<br />
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On June 8, 1962, at the White House....<br />
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/rfk-and-jfk-present-medals-june-8-1962.html"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XEca_3DZ-zI/XcQkIaWX9HI/AAAAAAABS9E/dWH1DKfPSsM9HraMQKFt4sbnSLtxi6bXwCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/RFK-JFK-1962-Video-Logo.png"></a><br />
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On the same day, Juan Marichal pitched against Bob Gibson in this baseball game....<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0CWGpD0zVmCdTljcTVCQVpSd00/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vCWBtQjGYjo/V2-T1UPO4LI/AAAAAAABKKg/okSHP9etjWogOK8LLI8sQ7a_hVKc9sZ1ACLcB/s1600/Giants-Cardinals-Baseball-Game-June-8-1962-Logo.png"></a><br />
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Among the great players who participated in the above game <b><a href="http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=196206080SLN">at St. Louis</a></b>....<br />
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Willie Mays, Stan Musial, Curt Flood, Orlando Cepeda, Willie McCovey, Ken Boyer, and the aforementioned Marichal and Gibson.<br />
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And Harry Caray and Jack Buck in the radio booth.<br />
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As Harry would say: <i>Holy Cow, what a lineup!</i><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">AND A LITTLE LATER, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Reds vs. Mets....<br />
May 21, 1975....<br />
Billingham vs. Seaver....<br />
1st ever HR for Doug Flynn....<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0CWGpD0zVmCSUJRZy1VOE1faDQ/view"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HJC1uyEFDjw/WGL9mX9PTPI/AAAAAAABLQY/5YimQ-W5mCsR3dWfohqFdWm27jMsbb-cgCLcB/s1600/Reds-Mets-Baseball-Game-May-21-1975-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">AND STILL LATER, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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How about this one for an old-time baseball goodie? ---<br />
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The 1934 All-Star Game....<br />
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Featuring such greats as Ruth, Gehrig, Hubbell, Frisch, Medwick, Foxx, and Dickey....<br />
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This is the game which had Carl Hubbell striking out 5 straight future Hall-of-Famers.... <br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzWAr91aL-BEM09CNGQ3R2REc1U/view"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-usF7FVN1ra4/Watcc4Zpo1I/AAAAAAABMu0/a1S5u888ST0AoNs8yuBfXD54MFX0jgu_QCLcBGAs/s530/1934-All-Star-Game-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JASON BURKE SAID:</span></b><br />
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Now <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzWAr91aL-BEM09CNGQ3R2REc1U/view">*that*</a></b> was worthwhile. <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT SAID:</span></b><br />
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Now that [1934 All-Star Game] is one hell of a find. I didn't even know there were complete recordings of old radio broadcasts of baseball games. I knew certain highlights have been saved (The Giants win the pennant, the Giants win the pennant). <br />
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Where the hell am I going to find the time to watch/listen to all these great old broadcasts of classic baseball games that DVP has given us. Maybe if we get a crippling snowstorm in the Midwest that forces us all to cocoon for about a week I might be able to get to them.<br />
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Just kidding, David. This is much appreciated.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I also recently discovered this collection of old baseball games:<br />
<b><a href="https://archive.org/details/classicmlbbaseballradio">Classic Baseball Radio Broadcasts</a></b>.<br />
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And here's the complete 1951 "The Giants Win The Pennant" game.... <br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0CWGpD0zVmCay1CcVVDcm0wSkU/view"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UzIvvEMVPu0/UzPCaHJG6BI/AAAAAAAAyhg/bP-i2f6Gq48/s1600/Dodgers-Vs-Giants-October-3-1951-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT SAID:</span></b><br />
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<b><a href="https://archive.org/details/classicmlbbaseballradio">This</a></b> is a gold mine. There goes my free time for the next few months.<br />
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Thanks again.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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An addendum (just for John Corbett)....<br />
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<b><a href="https://www.otrr.org/OTRRLibrary/index.html?idp=1167">http://otrrlibrary.org/Baseball Broadcasts</a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT SAID:</span></b><br />
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WOW, that is one great collection. The one that has me baffled though is the Cubs/Mets from 1966. That was the first year the Mets didn't finish dead last in the National League. They finished 9th. The Cubs finished 10th. I'm trying to figure out why someone would save that broadcast. Maybe it was a rabid Mets fan and that was the game they move out of the cellar. Maybe it was considered historic back then.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Well, I saved a bunch of Reds radio highlights from 1982, '83, and '84 -- three of the worst years ever for the Big Red Machine. I saved them because that just happened to be the point in time in my life when I was closely following the team every day (and keeping all the stats , etc.).<br />
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Fortunately, though, 1985 was much much better for Cincinnati when I was still in my "baseball obsessed" mode---an exciting 2nd-place finish in '85 plus Pete Rose chasing down and passing Ty Cobb (and we should have had the NL MVP that year too, IMO--Dave Parker--but he lost out to Willie McGee).<br />
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I started keeping track of Reds games in 1972, but my stat sheets were much thinner and didn't include very much. I wish I had been able to tape a lot of games off the radio in '72 and '73 (with <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2018/10/al-michaels.html">Al Michaels</a></b>), but I was just a small tot back then (and I couldn't afford to buy the tapes or the tape recorder either).<br />
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I was recently able to download and save one regular-season Reds TV game from 1972 (below). It's a game that was played just <b><a href="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Q5e753K0Abk/WlAY7s30ySI/AAAAAAABN9A/HI_1ETahKWUcxVX1S_nHW4yHXx9iN0RMQCLcBGAs/s1000/Cincinnati-Reds-Ticket-Stub-July-4-1972.JPG">four days</a></b> after I personally obtained <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4FwRYRLRNqo/Wa84pDLcgCI/AAAAAAABM5c/His_sDfkYQoM6pNMynMNFOGLB8rsyHaBACLcBGAs/s1500/Autographs-Of-13-Cincinnati-Reds-Players-Obtained-By-David-Von-Pein-At-Riverfront-Stadium-On-July-4-1972.jpg">13 Reds autographs</a></b> (including Johnny Bench's) in the Riverfront Stadium parking garage. I'm hoping I can find more Reds games from this era in the future:<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5QtdnyENHvsWkVIY1Q2YUhseE0/view"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nNVr3LD2mA4/WgJSkSnok7I/AAAAAAABNnw/1quWf1Z0bbcvQwUl0GybX6usDQGo379MACLcBGAs/s1600/Reds-Cubs-Baseball-Game-July-8-1972-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<a href="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tiGzkNp8TPk/Wa8yF921nNI/AAAAAAABM5A/QFokiiZ0xKEABsbgeiXNwYPnLlGM7F3twCLcBGAs/s1500/Autographs-Of-13-Cincinnati-Reds-Players-Obtained-By-David-Von-Pein-At-Riverfront-Stadium-On-July-4-1972.jpg"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4FwRYRLRNqo/Wa84pDLcgCI/AAAAAAABM5c/His_sDfkYQoM6pNMynMNFOGLB8rsyHaBACLcBGAs/s737/Autographs-Of-13-Cincinnati-Reds-Players-Obtained-By-David-Von-Pein-At-Riverfront-Stadium-On-July-4-1972.jpg"></a><br />
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<center><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2014/11/1972-nlcs-game-5-reds-vs-pirates.html"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bDW9hSpOyH4/Wel4k3US47I/AAAAAAABNZY/c5AQgGNBsvYnEmRnJXu3LBqukEPN2IQ2ACLcBGAs/s1600/1972-NLCS-Game-5-Reds-Vs-Pirates-Logo-3.png"></a></center><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALLAN JOHNSON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Why on earth did the Reds decide to fire Sparky in 1979? <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I've been asking myself that question since they fired him. <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALLAN JOHNSON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Do you think the Reds would have been better off keeping him?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Well, overall, yes, I think so. Sparky Anderson was an excellent "players" manager. But as far as the 1979 season specifically is concerned, it would be hard for Sparky to have done any better than his replacement (John McNamara) did during the <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-rcjDGNFEH_MFJ5eVpHZ1gxM1U/view">'79 regular season</a></b>. McNamara led the Reds to the N.L. West championship that year.<br />
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Hindsight is always perfect, though. If the Reds had been able to see into the future, I kind of doubt they would have let <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9E6ed_4-hx6N3N3eWZ3cWlhWnc/view">Frank Robinson</a></b> get away after the 1965 season either. (No trade could possibly have been worse than that one.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
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Hey John C.! At Amazon.com today, I came across <b><a href="https://www.amazon.com/review/R1D06DCRUY33NJ">this excellent 2012 review</a></b> for the Season One DVD of <i>"This Week In Baseball"</i> (the classic baseball highlights TV show hosted by Mel Allen), and I was wondering if you were the "John Corbett" who wrote it?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT SAID:</span></b><br />
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No, but I wish I was. I'll check it out.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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The reason I bumped into that review is because I was doing some research on "This Week In Baseball", in order to try and verify the exact dates when the episodes were first aired (although I know it was a syndicated program, which means the shows might have aired on different days in different cities).<br />
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Anyhow, I've now added some of the "TWIB" episodes to my Video Index (which is why I wanted to confirm the air dates, since I hate inaccurate data on my webpages).<br />
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<b><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B56lqh-7-SzQRGlGcHFTcEtnVFE?resourcekey=0-q8tec5nJSHj_CwsDKNcMhQ">These "TWIB" shows</a></b> are fun to see 40 years later. Remember Mark "The Bird" Fidrych of the Tigers? (Sadly, I just learned today that Fidrych was killed in 2009 in a freak accident involving a dump truck he owned. He was only 54.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/nEyf5jf9hYM/c0ldr7BbDwAJ">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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I not only remember Mark "The Bird" Fidrych, I was the home plate umpire for the first pitch he ever threw in professional baseball (1974). It was for the Bristol Tigers of the Appalachian League (rookie league). I think he was drafted in about the 19th round by the Tigers and generally players drafted that low aren't considered major league prospects. He was a surprise. He started out as a short reliever for Bristol (they weren't called closers back then).<br />
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It was the first series of the season and I remember the Bristol first base coach (last name Hogan but don't ask me his first name) walking past me between innings and asking me if I ever watched Sesame Street. I told him I didn't but he asked me if I knew who Big Bird was and said I did. He told me to take a look at the relief pitcher they were bringing in and see if I thought he looked like Big Bird. Sure enough, he was tall and gangly with a Harpo Marx hairstyle and he looked every bit like Big Bird. I looked over at the dugout and Hogan and I both started laughing. <br />
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Hogan was the one who nicknamed him Big Bird and it eventually got changed to The Bird. That's how his manager would call for him. "Bring me The Bird". He was every bit as flaky in Bristol as he was in Detroit, so it wasn't an act. He was genuine. <br />
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What I remember about him was he threw hard and always kept the ball down, but you thought more about how flaky he was rather than how good he was. I never expected him to go to the big leagues. <br />
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Next spring I was working at the Tigers training camp in Lakeland and I was walking past the stadium to the practice fields where the minor league games were played and I saw The Bird warming up in the bullpen and his catcher was Lance Parrish, who had been Bristol's third baseman the previous year. I thought, <i>what are those two Z-ballers doing in the big league uniforms?</i> <br />
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I would never guess that just a year later The Bird would be the starting pitcher in the All Star game and President Ford would be in the locker room before the game wanting to meet him. Parrish of course became the Tigers regular catcher for about a decade in the Sparky Anderson era.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Wow! What an amazing "Mark Fidrych" story, John. Thanks. (I'm glad I brought "The Bird's" name up in the conversation. It was worth it to hear that great true baseball story.) :-)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BRAD MILCH SAID:</span></b><br />
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How about a video index by subject, David? Here's a couple of examples how such could really aid your visitors (especially me):<br />
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1. I'm looking for a video clip of Jesse Curry asking the public to bring their home movies and photos of the assassination to the police to help them in their investigation. I remember seeing that clip on TV the assassination weekend, but don't remember if it was aired on national or Dallas TV. I refer to David's video index, look up Jesse Curry, read a brief synopsis of news conferences featuring Mr. Curry & THERE IT IS!!! David has just saved me hours of digging, searching, downloading & screening through video clips. He has become my hero in the process. <br />
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2. Jim DiEugenio wants to know when the Malcolm Couch film was first shown on national or Dallas TV. Jim is curious about whether the Franzen family (seen in the Zapruder film) are also seen in the Mal Couch film. Jim refers to David's online video index, quickly finds the clip he wants & downloads it. David now is hero to 2 people who start camping out near his house in hopes of gaining David's autograph.<br />
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Multiply it out & estimate how popular you could become in a very short time, David. It might get so big that you'd be able to be Taylor Swift's next door neighbor....who knows? David might even start receiving Christmas gifts from Jim. It could really snowball.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thank you, Brad.<br />
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With respect to a "subject index"....<br />
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I like the idea, but to a certain extent that's exactly what my "Master Video Index" is --- it's a (mostly) alphabetical listing of every downloadable/streamable video file that I've got in my collection.<br />
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And one of the greatest features of Internet web browsers is the <b>"Word Find"</b> tool, which I use every day of my life. And I hope people are using it as an aid when searching my Video Index, because it's invaluable. For instance, take the "Jesse Curry" example you mentioned above (although I <i>think</i> you might have made a small error there; see <b><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23259-dvps-new-master-videoaudio-index/&page=3#comment-342799">this post</a></b> for an explanation)....<br />
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If somebody wants to find a video with "Jesse Curry" in the title, they can just load up my Video Index page (which only takes about 3 seconds to fully load, because the page consists of virtually <i>all text</i>, with very few pictures) and then simply start typing "Jesse..." on their keyboard. You only need to type "Jess", in fact, and the "Search As You Type" feature on most browsers will take you instantly down to the Jesse Curry files on my page.<br />
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The "text searchable" nature of the Index is something I pointed out two months ago, in fact....<br />
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<i>"When I started to put that catalog of links together, I wanted something comprehensive, fast-loading, and text searchable. And the new index meets all of those criteria."</i> <b>-- DVP; 12/8/2016</b><br />
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A more intricate and "subject"-specific series of indexed entries would probably be useful too. But, Brad, at what point do you think such a detailed index would become kind of cumbersome and awkwardly large? And what things should be included in such a sub-index of subject matter? And what things should be excluded? The list of sub-topics is practically endless (as your two examples above tend to illustrate). My Master Index is pretty huge right now as it is (and getting bigger every week), sans any kind of detailed "subject" information.<br />
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I tried to incorporate as much pertinent information into the title of each video file that the space would permit for just a one-line title (and I did want to keep the titles down to only one line, because I think it looks better that way).<br />
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Thank you, Brad, for your suggestion.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BRAD MILCH SAID:</span></b><br />
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David Von Pein has made it possible to relive the assassination experience as it was broadcast in real time on CBS, NBC & ABC TV networks as well as Dallas & other Texas viewing areas. Coverage comparisons can be made & visuals for school projects or personal use are available as a result of David's tremendous global education & humanitarian effort he's put into his JFK & related materials online for free. <br />
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None of that was even remotely possible 53 years ago when the horrors of the ambushes of President Kennedy, DPD Officer Tippit & prisoner Lee Oswald suddenly burst into a multitude of lives globally. Back then, one had to drag through mountains of public library microfilm to get JFK information.<br />
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David has laid the assassination, as it happened, right at everyone's keyboard for free.<br />
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As a result of all the educational & humanitarian gifts David has given to the world, I constantly personally try to not lose sight of the fact that regardless of what David believes happened in the assassination of President Kennedy & who was responsible for it, he can either be 100% correct or 100% wrong in his online assessments. People will learn from him one way or the other.<br />
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With deepest respect,<br />
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Brad Milch<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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No matter what anyone might say to the contrary, nobody had a loaded gun pointed at Brad Milch's head while he was typing his comments above. (Did they, Brad?) :)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">IN ANOTHER DISCUSSION....</span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">BRAD MILCH SAID:</span></b><br />
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<b><a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/&page=14#comment-344181">This [Education Forum thread]</a></b> is getting good, Cliff [Varnell]. .... It kinda reminds me of the old Yankees in the last inning of the World Series: Yanks are down by 3. Bases are loaded. 2 outs. Next at bat: Mickey Mantle [Roger Maris next, following Mickey].<br />
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Mickey's at the plate batting left handed instead of his usual right, signaling sportscasters & fans alike that Mickey's 'going for the fence'. Sandy Koufax has been replaced by Mr. 'LHO did it', David Von Pein, who has unexpectedly been brought to the mound from the bullpen. David's looking to strike Mickey out & put the Series to bed.<br />
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The suspense is thick. Those in the stands are munching on hot dogs, peanuts & cracker jacks. Others not present have their ears glued to small transistor radios....<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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But don't forget ..... DVP (that's me) led the league in saves with 44. (To go with a not-too-shabby 2.89 earned-run average.)<br />
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And I've always had good success in my 16-year career against Mantle. Mickey's only 17-for-71 (.239) lifetime against the southpaw hurling of DVP, with just 2 long balls (one in 1964 and the other [a grand-slam, unfortunately] in '66).<br />
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So the odds are with DVP in this battle against The Mick. :)<br />
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<b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9E6ed_4-hx6dFRSaHRVRi1vZTg/view">http://drive.google.com/Mickey Mantle Video #1</a></b><br />
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<b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1HfZEtZCsf5YkgzWkJaN29VSjQ/view">http://drive.google.com/Mickey Mantle Video #2</a></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BRAD MILCH SAID:</span></b><br />
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I had a feeling you'd excel in the situation, David. You stand up to power sluggers day in & day out. I hope EF [Education Forum] readers & researchers alike can read thru the lines & realize that the underlying message was: excluding DVP (David Von Pein) from the game only causes the game to suffer.<br />
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You're tougher than I'll ever be, David. That's one of the reasons I admire reading your posts & your unwavering viewpoints about the JFK case.<br />
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Respectfully & sincerely,<br />
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Brad Milch <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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But if you were to ask most conspiracy believers around the Internet, they would say that I have had grand-slams hit off me every time I take the mound. :)<br />
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Actually, though, for the "official" record books [~chuckle~], I only pitched in one game during my glorious 4-year (Optimist Little League) baseball "career" (1973-1976). I hurled two-thirds of an inning in one game when our team was apparently getting our brains beaten out so badly that there was nobody else left to put in except first baseman Von Pein. :) (I did okay, though, giving up no runs with one strikeout.)<br />
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Sorry about this additional "baseball" diversion, but I was watching <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0CWGpD0zVmCdTFjX3p2NmdNZDg/view">this old reel of home movies</a></b> that my brother recently transferred into a digital computer file, and it includes <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B56lqh-7-SzQaUZ4YV9PRnJPN2c/view">this one minute of footage</a></b> that my father took of me playing baseball as a 12-year-old in 1974 (the "1973" film caption is incorrect), which prompted me to create the homemade "Topps baseball card" seen below. (Has anybody else here ever wanted to see their name and picture on a Topps bubble gum card?)<br />
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Yeah, I know, this "card" should be more rectangular than this, but I did the best I could with the two fuzzy pictures I captured from my father's home movie.<br />
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And, Brad, I hope you will take notice of the bond I share with the Hall-of-Famer you mentioned earlier--Mickey Mantle. We both wore the same uniform number (7). The similarity ends there, however. Mickey batted .298 lifetime. I hit about .198. I guess maybe that's why the Reds weren't beating down my door to draft me. :) <br />
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<b>[2020 EDIT:</b> It seems as though perhaps my memory of my hitting prowess <br />
as a youth isn't as good as I thought it was, because I recently came across some old newspapers from my hometown of Richmond, Indiana, and discovered <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YuqBUo_IQ_A/Xycjt6IljQI/AAAAAAABVuk/YE_yr3S9cIAG1SFgouXEAwmSgUHJOTcSgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/The-Palladium-Item-Newspaper-Clipping-From-July-8-1974--Von-Pein-7-For-18.jpg">this clipping</a></b>, which indicates that in the middle of the 1974 baseball campaign I was swinging the lumber at a robust .389 clip. I never remember hitting for that high of an average in my Little League days. But I guess I was wrong. :-)<b>]</b> .... <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL WALTON SAID:</span></b><br />
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Another lefthander, huh, Dave? :)<br />
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I would have LOVED to have gone up to Indy, or you come down to KY, for a match-up:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BRAD MILCH SAID:</span></b><br />
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@David Von Pein & Michael Walton:<br />
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I hope you both didn't suffer the horror I discovered when I learned my good 'ol dad had taken advantage of me leaving home for the Army, cleaned out my room & tossed out all my trading cards & comics (one featuring Mantle & Maris - I think it was a Batman or Superman issue). A small fortune in collectables slipped right thru my little fingers...including my Beatles trading cards (crying hysterically)....<br />
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I've never gotten over it, nor forgiven. My mother kept it from me for a long, long time. She KNEW how much the old Yanks meant to me....mom never let on that she suspected me of blowing my lunch money on Topps baseball & Beatles trading cards & gum.<br />
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PS: David's baseball time trip was marvelous, to say the least. Possibly one of the best pieces he's ever written. It belongs in David's Hall Of Fame too (along with the video clip of <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzEbCwH8buS1RXBRRS1PbE1CNzA/view">JFK tossing out the ball</a></b> from a Washington stadium that David has posted at his video blog), IMHO.<br />
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That fine-looking young man with #7 on the back of his uniform shirt clearly demonstrates that David Von Pein is not the monster some try to make him out to be.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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@Brad:<br />
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All of my old Topps baseball cards are now gone too. My dad didn't toss them out, though. I myself threw them all away years ago. Geez, how stupid I was for doing that! I'd love to have those cards back today. And I'm a persnickety fusspot too, keep in mind, so I kept each card in perfect (mint) condition all the time. Who knows what my "Johnny Bench In Action" card from '72 would be worth today in the mint condition I kept it in. :)<br />
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@Michael:<br />
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Great Kentucky Post newspaper clipping. A no-hitter, eh? That's incredible (even for a Knothole player). The best I could ever do was two doubles in one game in 1976 (plus a few good plays on defense while digging out low throws at <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PSkm5pI_VSc/Xycjut-1saI/AAAAAAABVu0/F-tgwyTX5V4dI4iRf7E6UzwiZizrHM03ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/The-Palladium-Item-Newspaper-Clipping-From-July-9-1974--Von-Pein-1b.jpg">first base</a></b>). <br />
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Your newspaper clipping reminds me of something else from my "baseball past" that I wish I still had today -- the box scores from my Little League games. Yes, as incredible as it might sound today, the local paper in my small hometown (<i>The Palladium-Item</i> in Richmond, Indiana) actually would publish in the Sports section the complete box scores for every Optimist League game played. <b>[Edit:</b> Three years later, I located some of those old box scores. See the photos below.<b>]</b><br />
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Another thrilling <i><b>Baseball Bonus</i></b> 😁 ....<br />
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DVP's Little League-related newspaper clippings from 1973 and 1974:<br />
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Thank you both (Brad and Michael) for sharing your baseball memories. I know it has nothing to do with the JFK case....but, heck, there <i>are</i> a few things in the world besides the events of November 22nd, 1963, right?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/nEyf5jf9hYM/QTPQ9EliAgAJ">SAID</a>:</span></b><br />
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<b>MARCH 2, 2017, ADDITION TO MY MASTER VIDEO INDEX....</b><br />
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Category Breakdown....<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER ADDED:</span></b><br />
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Some additional Master Index "Category" links....<br />
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<span style="font-size:155%;"><b><i><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2016/12/dvp-audio-video-master-index.html#JFK-Assassination-Debates">JFK Assassination Debates</a><br />
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<a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2016/12/dvp-audio-video-master-index.html#JFK-Assassination-Films">JFK Assassination Films</a><br />
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<a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2016/12/dvp-audio-video-master-index.html#JFK-Related-Interviews">Interviews (JFK-Related)</a></span></i></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
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July 2017 additions:<br />
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<b>"The Mike Wallace Interview" (1957) (w/Bennett Cerf):</b><br />
<b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bytf0sAEvLamR29rTEdfTHBhZGs/view">http://drive.google.com/file/d/29rTEdfTHBhZGs/view</a></b><br />
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<br />
<b>Witness testimony from the O.J. Simpson murder trial (1995):</b><br />
<a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2017/07/dennis-fung-testimony.html"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P8JZOlvw-E4/WWq6Yi5q_II/AAAAAAABMV8/IyWgJ-CPHUUpcBkppIKgeX9S-FkURwtuQCLcBGAs/s255/OJ-Simpson-Trial-Testimony-Logo---Dennis-Fung.png"></a> <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwt01dRKXYPdUHhHWElJYUhJblE/view"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_ujshD2JPg4/WXteHWkfaKI/AAAAAAABMeI/3bVxprgn3UEfXD5xyMwsk_aDinUxylBpwCLcBGAs/s255/OJ-Simpson-Trial-Testimony-Logo---Robert-Huizenga.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
The month of September 2017 saw these items added to the Master Index:<br />
<br />
1967 Sylvia Meagher interview --- <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwt01dRKXYPda2dKR2RPdnNVaVk/view">HERE</a></b>.<br />
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JFK calls former President Eisenhower during the last days of the Cuban Missile Crisis in late October 1962 --- <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGObmI5WDc0Z3NkQjg/view">HERE</a></b>.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
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High-definition video upgrade....<br />
<br />
<b>"The Last Two Days" (1963 Official White House Color Film)....</b><br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1df0a9_9pnm4nUCDxjHLZjph2Wj6SQ14x/view"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R18-cGP12HE/UsSz9WkeZZI/AAAAAAAAxfc/l8BovhSUl9w/s530/The+Last+Two+Days+Playlist+Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID MEDZORIAN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Color corrected as well. Best version I’ve seen of the complete film. Thanks for posting.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Indeed, David. And I could kick myself for not discovering this HD version of "The Last Two Days" sooner. It's <b><a href="https://www.jfklibrary.org/about-us/news-and-press/press-kits">been there</a></b> for the downloading at the JFK Library site (unlike most of their other videos) probably for years. I just never knew it was there until yesterday (December 11, 2017). I was talking by e-mail to a representative of the Library yesterday and she provided me with the download link. <br />
<br />
And I've added one more "new" HQ "Official White House" video to the ol' <br />
Master Index too that I never knew was available for downloading either. It's <br />
<b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1379EGGtvFEYSTCeBeXQSzOFztZdDlnhx/view">43 minutes of color funeral footage</a></b>--on film.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID MEDZORIAN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
I was the very first person to ever visit the JFK Library back in 1979 (I live only a few miles away). I’ve visited their AV department a hundred times and there is a ton of material that has yet to be digitized. <br />
<br />
Unfortunately, when the networks originally gave copies of their JFK material to the library back in the 60’s, the library took that videotape and converted it to lower quality 16mm kinescopes. In the last twenty years, they stopped doing that and now there is some actual videotaped material that still looks pristine such as the <b><a href="https://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/TNC-319-EX.aspx">American University speech</a></b>.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
New (December 2017 Additions)....<br />
<br />
Dallas Police Department Radio Transmissions From November 22, 1963 (Extended Version) (46 Minutes):<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KuCx4w_uG78jMwpJXpFe6zxACFv4Iy6n/view"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/TG863S95RPI/AAAAAAAAFHc/zFeFL9nra2c/s390/DALLAS+POLICE+DEPT.+RADIO+TAPES.bmp"></a><br />
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<br />
Also....<br />
<br />
A one-hour interview in 1967 with JFK's personal physician, Dr. George Burkley (click the picture below):<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uwuMnGXLFe6-TvJcyWVRtwoMG-vpqPVe/view"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0klY8WY7ouE/WkgoQ1H8YzI/AAAAAAABN6Q/qVDOqh7UlVU3gPB9eaAAafRt_oPRrIoMQCLcBGAs/s390/George-Burkley-Photo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
A little more baseball....<br />
<br />
DVP Recap and Radio Highlights:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-rcjDGNFEH_Q3p5Q25VdUt6b3c/view"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_MbeJNY7lZ0/T40Xx_YLC7I/AAAAAAAAH1w/9gBqipddzJ8/s1600/Reds-Padres-Baseball-Game-September-11-1985-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<a name="Scorebook"></a><br />
Linked <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2018/02/pete-rose-4192nd-hit-sept-11-1985.html#DVP-Scorebook">here</a></b> are some pages from my personal scorebook for Pete Rose's record-breaking game on 9/11/85. The total time I spent in 1985 compiling all of the Reds stats and typing up all this material on my Olympia manual typewriter: <b>168 hours</b>. (Just kidding....it was only 99 hours.) :-) ....<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1v1aI3G_hTnRjUShKj-9axynQOdLjGzhw"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xG8K4L5d3cY/WosrZlPJqlI/AAAAAAABOQU/dru1BvMvrXYFTAxH1NwWgNZ9WGg5uZirwCLcBGAs/s765/DVP-Scorebook-September-11-1985-Reds-Vs-Padres--06.JPG"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO ADDED:</span></b><br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzEbCwH8buS1NnpXSUJBa0pDVjQ?resourcekey=0-UbNWxnhDZRm6U8sj7evY_Q"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7G1AS68OYQI/WKq9xImFXVI/AAAAAAABLa4/jXctlYZwFHA9OZQ7Y5pIPGWrfCxiBz56QCLcB/s530/Assassinations-And-Assassination-Attempts-Logo.png"></a><br />
<br />
And....<br />
<br />
An ABC-TV newscast from November 1961:<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ezrm2SB9I4r88Z-iGAWEem6GtTfZS74P/view"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Q589L_D5i2g/Wpbw-9rHh6I/AAAAAAABOTs/LaxpSJzDSF0DjdvuXechyVoeAQ9k1sXyQCLcBGAs/s530/ZZ.%2BKennedy-Era%2BNews%2BCapsule%2BLogo%2B%252811-29-61%2529.png"></a><br />
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And....<br />
<br />
A CBS-TV end-of-year special program, recapping the year of 1963:<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZzgtnSziEp1Ygh-kvHT3MFRG2kX3_XWX/view"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D7QJLSkKa6Q/Wpth8DAu7RI/AAAAAAABOVA/JRKl-MEWD0sQkCWtu02IQwmm3jzBbWiDgCLcBGAs/s1600/1963-A-Television-Album-CBS-TV-Special-Thumbnail.png"></a><br />
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And also....<br />
<br />
<a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2018/03/hsca-witness-testimony.html"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LlmcqpEe0cI/WqG9eSSlbVI/AAAAAAABOWo/XsnMWpl4B6seAS-WJxWoa6bDEVWwy1wGgCLcBGAs/s530/HSCA-Witness-Testimony-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
On March 17, 2018, I put together this compilation video of "Kennedy-Related" clips from the television game show <i>"What's My Line?"</i>....<br />
<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y_8Rhj8r8vC9g6ExuJi6CzcdtwW-cXNE/view"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ofIz_IcijhU/Wq3KFys52GI/AAAAAAABOe8/0ksm2u4NM6MF8uRMTfT-cZ8pydDB-gpuACLcBGAs/s1600/Whats-My-Line-Kennedy-Related-Segments-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">A FEW MONTHS LATER, DVP ADDED:</span></b><br />
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More than 200 really good songs:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B294SBAT_oH6d0dubVg2Nk9nSlU?resourcekey=0-8IoTKXfkNK7U-j5Td2WwKg"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dED84NU9FAE/TfRMO4ZN3sI/AAAAAAAAa3E/bGZsB27xYQM/s530/DVP-Jukebox-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON AUGUST 3, 2018, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
A fellow by the name of Scott Johndrow recently was kind enough to provide me with two higher-quality versions of my all-time favorite Kennedy-related film---<b><i><a href="http://four-days-in-november.blogspot.com">"Four Days In November"</a></i></b>. And (of course) I was compelled to immediately add them to my <i>Google Drive</i> archives (linked below).<br />
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<table><td><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sgeZt9bm0sW7hAr0jEYqgQZhT2mag4Fr/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E7xLuuzWqzI/W2N-A82mntI/AAAAAAABPUE/fmkMDvKLCgMFaW0T6TdqGRW-wgHJeZO9gCLcBGAs/s248/Google-Drive-Logo-cc.png"></a><td><td><td><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w3C5ljZXxGJRHEWqS0ITuRQi05-uLlDV/view"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0FrnOYkD3yk/W2N-AxN3SLI/AAAAAAABPUM/6Q9wwUlq__shOfeify2n_RgP36TY-QckACLcBGAs/s248/Google-Drive-Logo-bb.png"></a></table><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON SEPTEMBER 9, 2018, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Here's another baseball-related item added to my audio/video archives today --- it's an LP record album featuring highlights from the Cincinnati Reds 1976 world championship season. I didn't even know this album existed until yesterday. Glad I found it. It rounds out my collection of <b><i><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2017/06/cincinnati-reds-highlights-albums.html">Reds Highlights Albums</a></i></b> from the 1970s:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UuKPs1C5C_DXlk4SggR9MpvZECdwbNiK/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UgzNM_crhsw/XcQvUiuWf0I/AAAAAAABS9Q/YWbZ18JQbtQjio4wmgrsqkuNuUljWGAsgCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/Cincinnati-Reds-1976-Highlights-Album-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JANUARY 19, 2019, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
I recently added to my collection this video version of President Kennedy's January 20, 1961, inaugural address:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cwb_5JMx7iGjYO2RkyH-mkOc5WXLJw5F/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0k8ofoG165I/XcQwtPC_YoI/AAAAAAABS9Y/d_7lsiAv33YMucFnftNQkP03GRC-1j4vQCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/JFK-Inaugural-Address-Video-Version-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON FEBRUARY 19, 2019, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Two more additions to the "Master Index":<br />
<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/14AV_h3jEgSEMWE5pY2fscRDQ9LflPmLF/view"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m5uNRMXMOpU/XGyhqZH5CLI/AAAAAAABQ0I/hIDOKdjIwLItklCwUHLmGf3iGV2m9LeEwCLcBGAs/s255/Vincent-Bugliosi-WRKO-Radio-May-22-2007-Interview-Logo.png"></a> <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Zpv9XPh86PpI8FRbJfMYdFoTglz8tV_/view"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hEBEcRyKOas/XGyhqbWaPNI/AAAAAAABQ0M/IQL82bmojJ8Cg6hHz3qIbwmqWRqj_BngwCLcBGAs/s255/Vincent-Bugliosi-KGO-Radio-May-30-2007-Interview-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON MARCH 1, 2019, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Another unforgettable date in U.S. history---December 7, 1941. Here's a radio program from that day:<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qO6OaoBbfXA94V5KzWASKy-wjPJ62ROe/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ikrV7CBzWow/XHm0_BrAdQI/AAAAAAABQ4g/rO_gWTCJygkGxYiLoTj0ROl_NQYn29FqQCLcBGAs/s530/Jack-Benny-Program-12-7-41.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON MARCH 27, 2019, JOHN McADAMS SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Question for David Von Pein:<br />
<br />
YouTube used to have an interview with Domingo Benavides. <br />
<br />
It was in color, and done by Eddie Barker, if I remember correctly.<br />
<br />
I found the 1964 CBS recording on your site, but I can't find later CBS documentaries.<br />
<br />
Am I missing something?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
Hi John....<br />
<br />
Here's my archived version of the 1967 interview with Domingo Benavides:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGOX2xpV3F3MmFuaGc/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xuz0L6ZG77k/Wg0oMXbc5cI/AAAAAAABNq8/kmiVtOOEMfcw4ZeJw1D9jcHwRQr1PUZ4ACLcBGAs/s230/Click-Here-Logo.png"></a><br />
<br />
FYI Note --- Almost everything I have in my A/V collection can be located by searching for the pertinent keyword(s) at my Master Index webpage.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN McADAMS SAID:</span></b><br />
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Yea, I expected you to have that, in the best quality available at this late date, and you did. :-)<br />
<br />
If there is any problem with the splendid collection of resources you have on the web, it's finding things.<br />
<br />
I notice you have the <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2oJmFGgfM3zWWg2QWF2SllZMzA/view">1988 PBS NOVA documentary</a></b>. I have a copy in 3/4-inch tape. Fat lot of good that is. :-(<br />
<br />
You also have Frontline <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/who-was-lee-harvey-oswald.html">"Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?"</a></b> with the material that has been *cut out* of the DVD currently sold, and also on the current PBS online version.<br />
<br />
Really impressive resources.<br />
<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">INSTANT REPLAY....</span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN McADAMS SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
If there is any problem with the splendid collection of resources you have on the web, it's finding things.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Which is the precise reason I created this page in 2016....<br />
<br />
<a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2016/12/dvp-audio-video-master-index.html"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iALDfJWsneM/WmpiE-XE1mI/AAAAAAABOHQ/Xu1uyFy9NzI54xtIymDhNoefLM59Qo5MwCLcBGAs/s530/DVP-Audio-Video-Master-Index-Logo-005.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN McADAMS SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
My advice would be to put the link at the top of each of your pages.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
I did --- more than 2 years ago.<br />
<br />
I guess you just never noticed. <br />
<br />
:-)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON APRIL 12, 2019, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
<br />
As an extension of <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/dvp-master-video-index.html#Scorebook">this earlier comment</a></b>, I've added a few more Cincinnati Reds games to my <b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2019/04/dvp-cincinnati-reds-scorebooks.html">Baseball Scorebook Archive</a></b>, including the game linked directly below (Opening Day 1985):<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qP_rxSfxnEeLEFW6P5fH7h7e7SfneQiL"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-60puxOEiUpw/XLFDcmpMQ_I/AAAAAAABRKE/SdfdQYBx7Oc6NIOp0W4I7K_daXXH4kgxgCLcBGAs/s530/1985-Scorebook.png"></a><br />
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Oh, how my poor index finger must have ached after typing up those 66 pages on my old Olympia manual typewriter. (I must have been nuts!) (I'm a one-finger typist. Still am, even on the computer. I couldn't type with 2 hands if I tried.) <br />
<br />
But, thanks to the Internet (and places like Google Drive), now I can share this over-the-top "baseball overload" stuff. Prior to just recently, the evidence of the extent of my "baseball possessed" years was locked up in a dresser drawer, unseen by human eyes (except my own) for 30+ years. <br />
<br />
I only wish my scorebook pages could come with a built-in "Download" feature. Doing it manually with a camera and Paint Shop takes forever. (I doubt I'll take photos of all 400+ games in my Scorebook Archive. But I'd love to--some day.)<br />
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<a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2019/04/dvp-cincinnati-reds-scorebooks.html"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ImDq3PIofpk/XK-rDMw745I/AAAAAAABRJs/TnjTMDaL9dk5dsTaD5Lysnsp80t1jWfNQCLcBGAs/s530/DVPs-Cincinnati-Reds-Scorebooks-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON APRIL 21, 2019, JOHN McADAMS SAID:</span></b><br />
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Message for David Von Pein:<br />
<br />
Your videos have been my salvation in my JFK class this semester.<br />
<br />
Marquette has removed the ability to play VHS tapes in classrooms. So a lot of good footage I had on those tapes was no longer usable.<br />
<br />
But I found the footage I need -- mostly the two 60s CBS documentaries, and the 1993 Frontline documentary -- on your site.<br />
<br />
The current DVD of the Frontline documentary has key footage cut out, especially the Odio material, but other stuff too.<br />
<br />
So kudos for your efforts.<br />
<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thanks for the "kudos" message, John. It pleases me to know that at least a few people are getting some good out of the stuff I've put online.<br />
<br />
And I want to remind you, John, that the videos I have stored and shared through <i>Google Drive</i> can all easily be downloaded at the touch of a button too. The "Download" button is located in the top-right part of each <i>Google Drive</i> webpage:<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2oJmFGgfM3zdHdDWllvNU1VZmc/view"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7pg5OXo4H4o/XL2Oewp2A_I/AAAAAAABRM0/N5Kts6aYGZ4z8VokkBhx9ncUYOA77Oa5gCLcBGAs/s530/Highlighting-The-Download-Button-On-Google-Drive-Video-Pages.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN McADAMS SAID:</span></b><br />
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Yep, and they all import fine into MovieMaker.<br />
<br />
The only videos I show pretty much unedited are the first 75 minutes of "Four Days in Dallas" [sic] (Wolper), and the movie "JFK" (an evening session).<br />
<br />
Otherwise, class time is valuable, so I use edited clips, such as Ruth Paine explaining the coffee klatch that resulted in Lee getting his job or Domingo Benavides describing the Tippit shooting.<br />
<br />
As I mentioned earlier, key footage was cut out of the Frontline documentary as released on DVD, and your having it online was a godsend.<br />
<br />
Joe Newbrough on how 544 Camp Street was entirely separate from Banister's office and the Sylvia Odio testimony are two segments I used in class last Wednesday.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">"CLAVIGER" SAID:</span></b><br />
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Yes indeed, Kudos! <br />
<br />
David Von Pein has a truly remarkable website. A veritable treasury of photos, debate, and discussion. It has been most helpful to me in researching this case. The <b><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com">Photo Gallery</a></b> is a truly valuable well-organized resource. <br />
<br />
Any college student taking a Debate Class can learn much from study of David's logical, calm response to heated and provocative debate. Hopefully this useful academic resource will be around for a long time to come.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thank you, clav.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER ADDED:</span></b><br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FbYD9LdwGClai8EsiFJescheeiiRQB05/view"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3p2cul65jZs/XMdF2uYig9I/AAAAAAABROY/-OBJillA48Ek9J8vSOQnO-8PzgUHxHAmwCLcBGAs/s530/Chappaquiddick-Documentary-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON MAY 2, 2019, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I found a great interview with Robert MacNeil today at the <b><a href="https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/robert-macneil">Television Academy website</a></b>, with lots of interesting tidbits revealed by MacNeil (some of which I had heard before, some I hadn't). Here it is:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
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I recently found the following two 1983 interviews at Jim Feliciano's <b><a href="http://www.mcrfb.com/?page_id=45"><i>"Motor City Radio Flashbacks"</a></i></b> website:<br />
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<table><td><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SrFy0KTUMY-9tG9OlqN3PUljO3RtCUPk/view"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-x0EpjsGs7zI/XNonkPxW3UI/AAAAAAABRVY/Kt2Q9rQFxggMGZDMPNWgIniiTDPlrdI0ACLcBGAs/s255/Interview%2BWith%2BM.N.%2BMcDonald%2B%252811-22-83%2529%2BThumbnail.png"></a><td><td><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UcR8MS_9frg24DGE3Kj0B9cYWiKBuMaY/view"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5urMnGO74WY/XNonj6nJtwI/AAAAAAABRVU/3iaIQsqWVBUvktglS0UjYv633RWG9wqoQCLcBGAs/s254/Interview%2BWith%2BJames%2BLeavelle%2B%252811-22-83%2529%2BThumbnail.png"></a></table><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO LINKED TO THIS:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER ADDED:</span></b><br />
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Pre-assassination film taken at Dallas' Love Field on 11/22/63....<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ciDr9EUuGiLewXT9LPzpmUt6JMbDjIZ0/view"><img src="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-h7IxBpXAU5E/VGRakr5JN0I/AAAAAAABBME/zjF3qNFibq0/s1600/George-Reid-Film-Logo.png"></a><br />
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More Films....<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">IN SEPTEMBER 2019, DVP ADDED THESE ITEMS:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">IN OCTOBER 2019, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Two more new (or expanded) video items....<br />
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4+ hours of NBC-TV coverage from Day 2 of the four-day assassination weekend (Saturday, November 23, 1963):<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WcJ6RPrTUC2w2QISX8fVDafA124nEuEd/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-49RvZNxyD6c/XaPx-tJUeXI/AAAAAAABSuo/8GbqaGvUziol9tKJFHX0sN7FB_we_3idACLcBGAsYHQ/s530/11-23-63-NBC-TV-Logo.png"></a><br />
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And....<br />
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An expanded version of my "Man In The Street Interviews" video:<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TTtH0NLFzZePb6R3sHTt7paK-MuTbxKN/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uJ-jiTBzmCw/XaQ8_eICJiI/AAAAAAABSuw/cbauBGx-CZQbi4Ubo-ZJJ23tnBzOJnfzwCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/Man-In-The-Street-Interviews-Logo-2.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP ALSO SAID (IN MID-OCTOBER 2019):</span></b><br />
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Back to baseball again....<br />
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I recently added many <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B56lqh-7-SzQalRNeDd0TGVLU1k?resourcekey=0-s36lwWBVT8PYrmZfX-N5jA">"World Series Finales"</a></b> to my collection of Major League Baseball games. I currently have 50+ games in the folder below, dating back to 1952.<br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B56lqh-7-SzQalRNeDd0TGVLU1k?resourcekey=0-s36lwWBVT8PYrmZfX-N5jA"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qcEQwcmEYLY/XZ5ooiVCFoI/AAAAAAABSuE/pODzoUnh4xM9rHqq4XQBZdoQiymm8VuhgCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/World-Series-Clinching-Games-Logo.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON OCTOBER 29, 2019, DAVID VON PEIN ADDED:</span></b><br />
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Three "Improved Picture Quality" videos....<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON NOVEMBER 2, 2019, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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I just discovered the existence of several "new" 11/22/63 color films at the <br />
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<b>RUDY & VERA CLAUSS FILM:<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j-tQ1-FKfpjnczEYZkApEXvD-W1LRGmL/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j-tQ1-FKfpjnczEYZkApE/view</a><br />
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KEITH GRIFFITH FILM:<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GVmx1mzzrVuUAaqUBDNVeaDTgAXhTImS/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GVmx1mzzrVuUAaqUB/view</a><br />
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PAT SANDERS FILM:<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-bnPfj7tpO-U2at3ymgCcr4cStJe5QkF/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-bnPfj7tpO-U2at3ymgr/view</a><br />
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A.C. HICKMAN FILM:<br />
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fnFrWfVBKizuwkPDEKlMavWkuQes1Gqs/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fnFrWfVBKizuwkPEKl/view</a><br />
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FRANK MAROTTA FILM:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN McADAMS SAID:</span></b><br />
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Way back in my <b><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1597974897">2011 book</a></b>, I mentioned Von Pein in the Foreword as having done excellent work preserving and making available important footage.<br />
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He doesn't seem to have slacked off.<br />
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Given my "legacy" VHS tapes will not play on the equipment in any Marquette classroom, the footage he has uploaded has been my salvation this semester and the last.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thanks again, John. :-)<br />
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Much gratitude also needs to be extended to the <b><a href="http://jfk.org">Sixth Floor Museum</a></b> and the <b><a href="http://jfklibrary.org">JFK Library</a></b> for making available on their websites (for free) large amounts of Kennedy-related video and audio material. Kudos to both organizations.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON NOVEMBER 4, 2019, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Today I created a new version of one of my favorite Major League Baseball radio broadcasts that I'm proud to own on cassette tape. It's a game between the Cincinnati Reds and New York Mets that was recorded by my brother on July 21, 1976, in the middle of the Reds world championship season. My brother taped the game on two very (very!) cheap <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QMSYGbNcHoc/Xb_nAz0_hvI/AAAAAAABS48/lY9QEkJzkjMrSGaufx4rmsPDeNzuVMvowCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Reds-Mets-Baseball-Game-July-21-1976-Original-Audio-Cassette-Tapes.JPG">"Tracs" audio cassettes</a></b>. (Remember those el-cheapo things? In the '70s, you could get a 3-pack of them for about a buck at K-Mart. They were cheap, but hey, they did the job.)<br />
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The reason this particular 1976 baseball game is special to me is twofold. One, it was personally recorded by my own brother on the day the game was played. And two, it is (AFAIK) the <b>only</b> recording of a Cincinnati Reds baseball game that includes the entire uncut audio of the two pre-game shows ("The Main Spark" with Reds manager Sparky Anderson and broadcaster Marty Brennaman and "Turf Side", hosted by Joe Nuxhall) and the uncut audio of both of the post-game programs ("Star Of The Game" and "Scores And Comments") that were aired on the Reds Radio Network, plus many of the original commercials and all of the wraparound intro and outro jingles which were heard on Cincinnati's flagship station, WLW Radio. The inclusion of these items makes this 7/21/76 Reds broadcast a most unique and rare baseball recording indeed. <br />
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My newest "version" of this radio broadcast includes a new background image, an impressive nighttime view of Riverfront Stadium and the Cincinnati skyline:<br />
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<b>11/25/2019 EDIT:</b> And here's yet another of my versions of the 7/21/76 baseball game, featuring a different (and even more spectacular) nightscape HD photo of the Cincy skyline:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP LATER SAID:</span></b><br />
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Two more "upgrades" from my baseball archive [related comments <b><a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/nEyf5jf9hYM/HPYmHYDBAQAJ">here</a></b>]:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON NOVEMBER 10, 2019, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Latest JFK video....<br />
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I've merged my 3-part "NBC Radio 11/23/63" series into this one-parter:<br />
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There's some very interesting discussion among the NBC reporters in the above radio broadcasts from November 23, 1963, touching on such topics as: <br />
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<b>....</b>Can Oswald get a fair trial in Dallas (or anywhere) after Captain Fritz made his bold "This case is cinched" statement?<br />
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<b>....</b>Will the Cold War heat up significantly (if at all) following the murder of President Kennedy?<br />
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<b>....</b>Why is Communist China treating JFK's death as practically a non-story?<br />
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<b>....</b>Who was the main target of the assassin's bullets---President John F. Kennedy or Texas Governor John Connally?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON NOVEMBER 29, 2019, DAVID VON PEIN ADDED:</span></b><br />
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Here's another video that I have now merged into a 1-parter, containing six hours of KLIF Radio's coverage from the assassination weekend:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON DECEMBER 4, 2019, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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<i>Just Added!</i> --- Video versions of the last three Kennedy/Nixon Presidential Debates of 1960 (I already had the video version of the first debate), courtesy of The Miller Center (<b><a href="https://millercenter.org/president/kennedy">MillerCenter.org</a></b>):<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP THEN SAID THIS ON DECEMBER 18, 2019:</span></b><br />
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I found something today (on YouTube) that I had never seen before---pre-1963 motion picture film footage taken in Dealey Plaza (Dallas). This footage (at <b>4:04</b> in the video linked below) is from May of 1960, more than three years before Dealey Plaza became widely known:<br />
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More Dealey Plaza footage from the WFAA-TV news archives (circa 1960 to 1975) can be found <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC525GtyXp_qqNW4ptnVTn2Q/search?query=Dealey+Plaza">HERE</a></b>.<br />
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And the above videos gave me a good reason to expand my "Dealey Plaza Through The Years" page (including a car crash near the Book Depository in 1968):<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JANUARY 4, 2020, DAVID V.P. SAID:</span></b><br />
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Just for fun, I put together this <b>JFK Press Conference Marathon</b> video, which consists of 10 full-length John F. Kennedy news conferences (three from 1961, four from 1962, and three from 1963):<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JANUARY 6 & 7, 2020, DVP ADDED:</span></b><br />
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Consolidated into one-part videos:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID (ON JANUARY 8, 2020):</span></b><br />
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Here's an upgrade of one of my favorite interviews from the weekend of JFK's assassination. It's a (slightly) expanded version of Senator Hubert Humphrey's 11/23/63 chat with an NBC Radio correspondent. My <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGORGxVa2tLLWs1REE/view">previous version</a></b> of this interview is a couple of minutes shorter and has a glitch midway through it, which I've fixed in this new video. And I've used several new photos for this "upgraded" version as well:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JANUARY 10, 2020, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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Still more baseball....<br />
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I recently added the 2nd and 3rd games of the 1963 World Series to my baseball archive, which means I can now offer up the following link which includes the NBC Radio Network broadcasts of all four contests in that '63 Series, which had the Dodgers sweeping the Yankees, four games to none. This 1963 Fall Classic, of course, was played just one month before President Kennedy was killed:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JANUARY 11, 2020, DVP ADDED THIS ITEM:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP ADDED THIS ON JANUARY 17, 2020:</span></b><br />
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Expanded version....<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON FEBRUARY 3, 2020, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Here's a 1955 color film produced by the Dallas Citizens Traffic Commission, which includes two brief segments taken in Dealey Plaza (at <b>0:59</b> and <b>2:15</b>), depicting the two-way traffic that still existed at that time on Elm Street, the exact same street on which JFK was riding when he was shot and killed eight years later. This film comes from the Dallas Municipal Archives:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON FEBRUARY 9, 2020, DVP UTTERED:</span></b><br />
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Here's a high-quality KRLD-TV video clip showing Jack Ruby murdering Lee Harvey Oswald:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP SAID (FEBRUARY 20, 2020):</span></b><br />
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40 years ago this month:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ANOTHER DVP UTTERANCE ON FEBRUARY 21, 2020:</span></b><br />
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Here are both of comedian Vaughn Meader's <i>"The First Family"</i> LP record albums. The first album, which sold more than 4-million copies in the first two months after its release, was recorded on the same day that JFK addressed the nation with his famous <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B294SBAT_oH6UXpXaU04ZjBGRzg/view">Cuban Missile Crisis</a></b> speech (October 22, 1962). Volume 2 was recorded on March 18, 1963. I put both albums on this one video, plus a December 1962 segment from the TV game show <i>"What's My Line?"</i>, with Vaughn Meader appearing as the Mystery Guest:<br />
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<center><b><span style="font-size: large;">RELATED LINK:</span></b></center><a href="https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Billboard/60s/1963/Billboard%201963-01-26.pdf#page=6"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-47HWdDYREDU/XPZOGdEBNqI/AAAAAAABR9w/XZjNAlCJ5Nsd_IrXFI48uEdaULLRB2CXgCLcBGAs/s530/Billboard-Article-1-26-63.png"></a><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON MARCH 7, 2020, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Two 1963 color films featuring President John F. Kennedy visiting military installations in the western part of the United States:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON MARCH 23, 2020, DVP ADDED:</span></b><br />
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My third JFK-related "Marathon" video:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON APRIL 8, 2020, DAVID V.P. ADDED:</span></b><br />
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A 1975 interview with Vincent Bugliosi:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SOME TRUMP STUFF:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON APRIL 16, 2020, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Amidst the 10-hour video below, I've added 7 more hours of 11/23/63 (Saturday) coverage to my CBS-TV collection:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ANOTHER REDS BASEBALL GAME:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">HOW ABOUT A GOOD RADIO DRAMA?:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON MAY 18, 2020, DAVID VON PEIN ADDED:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JUNE 16, 2020, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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Here's an interesting 1981 documentary (which includes segments on the murders of both JFK and RFK, plus lots of other things):<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JUNE 27, 2020, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I've become fascinated recently by the 1962 Seattle World's Fair, which was attended by nearly 10-million people from April 21st to October 21st back in '62. My fascination with that event likely stems from the fact that it occurred during a time when JFK was in the White House (I love just about everything from the early '60s). So this week I decided to create a webpage devoted to the '62 Seattle Fair. Included is audio of President Kennedy officially opening the Fair:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP ADDED THESE ITEMS IN EARLY JULY OF 2020:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JULY 14, 2020, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I've now found a higher-quality version of <b><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2013/11/kennedy-gallery-357.html">Andre Leche's</a></b> film of the 11/22/63 Dallas motorcade:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON AUGUST 30, 2020, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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Here are a few <i>"CBS Evening News"</i> broadcasts I recently added to my archives. Some of the stories featured in these newscasts include the Charles Manson murder trial, the launch of the final Apollo moon mission, the tornado outbreak of April 1974, the worst loss-of-life plane crash in history, and the death of legendary crooner Bing Crosby. Plus, near the end of the first video below, 9-year-old John F. Kennedy Jr. gets a little airtime too:<br />
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<center><b><span style="font-size:118%;">LOTS MORE <i>CBS EVENING NEWS</i> HERE:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID V.P. SAID (ON SEPTEMBER 15, 2020):</span></b><br />
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Here's another interesting <i>CBS Evening News</i> broadcast. The headlines this night: Janis Joplin is dead <b>....</b> Charles Manson tries to attack the judge at his murder trial <b>....</b> The Reds & Orioles win baseball pennants <b>....</b> President Nixon dodges eggs <b>....</b> and prisoners riot in New York City. That's the way it was on Monday, October 5th, 1970:<br />
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And here are two more good radio mystery programs:<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT ASKED:</span></b><br />
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By any chance, do you have the original <i>War of the Worlds</i> [radio broadcast] in your library?<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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By chance, I sure do. ....<br />
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And make sure you read the <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Jpoczf5V47w/X0gkF1NuEFI/AAAAAAABWOc/t-9gTiRBjdAdCx9uMwB3MOJR11_nSjdNQCLcBGAsYHQ/s3000-h/The-Cincinnati-Enquirer-October-31-1938.jpg">1938 Cincinnati Enquirer story</a></b> that appears on my <i>"War Of The Worlds"</i> page above. Some interesting stories there of the terror that Mr. Welles unleashed that night. But it's really rather amazing (and hilarious too) that <i>anyone</i> with half a brain (and two working ears) could have actually believed we were being attacked by Martians as they listened to that radio drama. And the main reason I say such a thing is because Orson Welles <i>himself</i> plays the part of "Professor Pierson" in the fictional story. And Welles, of course, <i>also</i> narrates the first part of the show. And he made no attempt whatsoever to disguise his voice while playing Prof. Pierson! Therefore, why didn't any of the frightened New Jersey residents simply say to themselves: This obviously isn't really happening, unless this Prof. Pierson guy sounds <i>exactly like the host of the Mercury Theatre program</i>. (LOL time.) <br />
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Footnote: Many people believe that the panic allegedly caused by Orson Welles' radio drama has been overblown and sensationalized by the media in the years since the original 1938 broadcast. But if the level of the alleged frightened reaction by the public <i>is</i>, in fact, merely a "myth", then the lengthy and detailed Associated Press newspaper article that appears in the previously linked 10/31/38 edition of <i>The Cincinnati Enquirer</i> (and which no doubt also appeared in many other U.S. newspapers that same day), which boldly declares that <b><i>"Thousands Make Calls To Newspapers, Police Stations"</i></b> and that the Welles' radio play caused <i><b>"fright"</i></b> that <i><b>"was beyond measurement"</i></b>, must be nothing but pure fiction itself, dreamed up by newspaper executives anxious to discredit the then-fairly-new broadcast medium known as radio. And how likely is that scenario? (Not very likely, IMO.) [<b><a href="https://slate.com/culture/2013/10/orson-welles-war-of-the-worlds-panic-myth-the-infamous-radio-broadcast-did-not-cause-a-nationwide-hysteria.html">RELATED ARTICLE</a></b>]<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON OCTOBER 8, 2020, DVP ADDED:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON OCTOBER 16, 2020, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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I just finished making the 4-hour video linked below. It contains audio of <b>78</b> brief speeches made by JFK from April 1961 to November of '63.<br>
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The reason I created this long video is because I wanted to include in my collection several of President Kennedy's shorter speeches and public remarks that I hadn't yet downloaded and archived at my sites. But I didn't want to make 70+ separate videos lasting just 2 or 3 minutes each, so I decided to put four hours' worth of short speeches on one big video.<br>
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For the best quality, be sure to manually select <b>720p</b> from the video player's <i>Settings</i> menu. Google Drive videos never default to 720p for some reason. They always make you bump it up manually; and as of April 20, 2020, the spiteful crew at Google Drive decided to eliminate the 480p setting entirely for all uploaded videos, which really ticks me off. I sometimes get the distinct impression that the people who are running Google Drive have been making certain aggravating changes in recent months just in order to drive me crazy. 😠<br>
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/13s3xFhmkGUxegaBN5EJbZUydGzz42EF3/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ywyjlWrLkLU/X4f2e3YAd6I/AAAAAAABWdM/BPyeR2kX5KomKZHHZXducVD9vyUW6Zq-QCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/JFK-Brief-Speeches--78-Total-Speeches-Logo.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">THIS JFK SPEECH WAS ADDED TO DVP's ARCHIVES ON OCTOBER 24, 2020:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">AND THIS BRIEF JFK SPEECH WAS MADE PART OF DVP's COLLECTION ON NOVEMBER 19, 2020:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ANOTHER CINCINNATI REDS BASEBALL GAME:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON DECEMBER 5, 2020, MARTIN CAIDIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Some might find this interesting. It's a public official being interviewed in Dealey Plaza about a week before the assassination. And is Oswald on that bus that passes by? ....<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Interesting stuff for sure.<br>
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And I noticed something very intriguing that occurs in that 11/13/63 Dealey Plaza video. Near the very end of the video, the man standing on the left is a person that I am quite certain is a friend of Jack Ruby's. He's a lawyer named C.A. Droby, and he made the news on 11/24/63 after Ruby shot Oswald. Droby was interviewed on WFAA-TV and he was very emotional and upset because he had received death threats earlier that same day. Go to <b>1:02:20</b> in this video to see the Droby footage:<br>
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Now, if Droby isn't the same man that we see at the tail end of Martin Caidin's video, then I'll eat my hat--and yours too. Check out Droby's haircut in my WFAA video, and then compare it to the haircut of the man in Martin's video, paying particular attention to the "indented" hairline on the right side of his head. It's identical in both videos.<br>
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Interesting coincidence, eh? A friend of Ruby's who popped up on TV on 11/24/63 just happened to be filmed at the assassination site some 9 days before JFK came to town.<br>
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If I were a conspiracy promoter, I might just want to make a large mountain out of this innocuous anthill. 😉 <br>
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BTW / FYI....<br>
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For more "Pre-11/22" Dealey Plaza video footage, check out my collection below:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON MARCH 13, 2021, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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Here's an interesting 1962 newspaper article concerning the 40th Anniversary of WLW Radio in Cincinnati. (So there is somewhat of a tie-in to this "Audio/Video" discussion, since the linked newspaper article is talking about WLW's <i>radio</i> and <i>television</i> operations. 😉)<br>
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A lot of well-known personalities got their start at "The Nation's Station" (WLW), as we learn in this article from <i>The Cincinnati Enquirer</i>:<br>
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<center><b><span style="font-size: large;">MY COMPLETE NEWSPAPER COLLECTION:</span></b></center>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SIX MORE REALLY GOOD “OLD-TIME RADIO” EPISODES:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON APRIL 4, 2021, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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For those interested in a <i>real</i> conspiracy surrounding a Presidential assassination, I'll offer up this 1980 installment of the <i>CBS Radio Mystery Theater</i>:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID V.P. LATER ADDED:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP SAID THIS ON APRIL 11, 2021:</span></b><br />
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Here's the top news of the day from January 17, 1969 (via the <i>CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite</i>), including an on-camera appearance by Dr. Russell Fisher of the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-1968-clark-panel-report.html">Clark Panel</a></b>:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MORE CBS-TV NEWSCASTS:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">IN JUNE 2021, DAVID VON PEIN ADDED THESE<br>
TWO WORLD SERIES RADIO BROADCASTS:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">IN AUGUST 2021, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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I've created a “Radio Only” version of JFK's two speeches that he made in Fort Worth, Texas, on the fateful day of 11/22/63:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON AUGUST 22, 2021, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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This new audio version of JFK's 20th press conference (linked below) represents an upgrade and a "completion" of that particular news conference. The previous version of that conference which I had in my collection is inexplicably missing the final three minutes of the conference. But with those missing 3 minutes now restored, it means that every minute of audio from all 64 of John F. Kennedy's Presidential press conferences is now included in my <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2016/12/dvp-audio-video-master-index.html#JFK-Press-Conferences">audio/video archive</a></b>. Five of the conferences are also available in video format as well.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">3 NEW “MARATHON” VIDEOS ADDED TO DVP'S ARCHIVES IN AUGUST OF 2021:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN (ON AUGUST 25, 2021) SAID:</span></b><br />
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I just completed a new 5-part version of my <b>WLW Radio Extended Coverage</b> JFK assassination series (linked below). My older 10-part version of the same material was created in 2010. I wanted to reduce the number of parts in the series and I've been wanting to upgrade the video quality to 856x480, so the five-part version was born. Total running time for all 5 parts amounts to 33 hours and 31 minutes.<br>
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2ERm-cucsE0aUNwYzNmQk9TbHc?resourcekey=0-h6wI0LvNUofferCCSaTVJA"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QUhYmUb3K4U/YSY5v197k8I/AAAAAAABZMY/8ubv605XoAgQ_Es7Ah1wwwdG0OpfPgAkACLcBGAsYHQ/s530/WLW-Radio-JFK-Assassination-Extended-Coverage---5-Part-Version-Logo.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON SEPTEMBER 18, 2021, DVP ADDED:</span></b><br />
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uW34E9SHGxfKxhgfsjMChUKj2XagRtbZ/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-M2TztdTLNYc/YUWIrDX62kI/AAAAAAABZSs/WggR1iAJUYooFBJNvwC5f3Hg1PzIli1jwCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/JFK-Speech-9-12-62-Video-Version-Logo.jpg"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID V.P. SAID (ON SEPTEMBER 19, 2021):</span></b><br />
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Here's another item for Cincinnati Reds baseball fans like me....<br>
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Former Reds' great Pete Rose, 80 years young, is interviewed for more than an hour-and-a-half by tennis legend Jimmy Connors on June 9th, 2021:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">TWO MORE RADIO PROGRAMS (OCTOBER 2021 ADDITIONS):</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON OCTOBER 21, 2021, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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I've created my eighth "Marathon" video (linked below). This one—<b>"Kennedy-Era News Capsules"</b>—has 28 separate segments, with a total running time of <br>7 hours and 10 minutes.<br>
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Here's a list of the individual news segments:<br>
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01. January 4, 1961 (KLIF-Radio; Dallas, Tex.)<br>
02. March 13, 1961 (NBC Radio Network)<br>
03. April 11, 1961 (WMEX-Radio; Boston, Mass.)<br>
04. April 13, 1961 (WBZ-Radio; Boston, Mass.)<br>
05. April 14, 1961 (KYA-Radio; San Francisco, Calif.)<br>
06. July 17, 1961 (KILT-Radio; Houston, Tex.)<br>
07. July 24, 1961 (WKBW-Radio; Buffalo, N.Y.)<br>
08. September 6, 1961 (WKLO-Radio; Louisville, Ky.)<br>
09. February 20, 1962 (NBC Radio Network)<br>
10. August 7, 1962 (WABC-Radio; New York City, N.Y.)<br>
11. October 22, 1962 (CBS Radio Network)<br>
12. October 26, 1962 (KDWB-Radio; Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minn.)<br>
13. November 22, 1962 (NBC Radio Network)<br>
14. December 7, 1962 (WCCO-Radio; Minneapolis, Minn.)<br>
15. January 4, 1963 (WIL-Radio; St. Louis, Mo.)<br>
16. July 11, 1963 (WJBK-Radio; Detroit, Mich.)<br>
17. July 24, 1963 (KSFO-Radio; San Francisco, Calif.)<br>
18. August 20, 1963 (KFXM-Radio; San Bernardino, Calif.)<br>
19. September 2, 1963 (CKLW-Radio; Windsor/Detroit)<br>
20. November 18, 1963 (Paul Harvey News; ABC Radio Network)<br>
21. November 18, 1963 (KTKT-Radio; Tucson, Ariz.)<br>
22. November 21, 1963 (ABC Radio Network & Westinghouse Broadcasting Co.)<br>
23. November 22, 1963 (Paul Harvey News; ABC Radio Network)<br>
24. November 22, 1963 (CBS-TV; CBS Evening News With Walter Cronkite)<br>
25. November 24, 1963 (NBC Radio Network)<br>
26. November 25, 1963 (CBS-TV; CBS Evening News With Walter Cronkite)<br>
27. November 26, 1963 (WBAP-Radio; Fort Worth, Tex.)<br>
28. November 28, 1963 (NBC Radio Network)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADDED ON OCTOBER 22, 2021:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON 10/24/21, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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In recent days, I have been able to upgrade the two JFK-related programs linked below. These upgrades provide much-improved video quality for both of these early-1960s documentaries. I was especially pleased to be able to bump up the picture quality of the David L. Wolper film, <i>"The Making Of The President 1960"</i>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BASEBALL GAME ADDED ON OCTOBER 31, 2021:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BASEBALL GAME ADDED ON NOVEMBER 3, 2021:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP WELCOMED THESE 2 RADIO CHILLERS TO <br>HIS COLLECTION IN NOVEMBER 2021:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON NOVEMBER 17, 2021, DAVID V.P. SAID:</span></b><br />
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Today I created the 7-hour "Marathon" video linked below, which features <br>14 Old-Time Radio mystery programs with the <i>"First Lady of Suspense"</i>, the always great Agnes Moorehead.<br>
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These are the fourteen shows I included:<br>
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01. SUSPENSE ("Sorry, Wrong Number") (11-18-48)<br>
02. MYSTERY IN THE AIR ("The Lodger") (8-14-47)<br>
03. SUSPENSE ("Weekend Special: Death") (5-24-54)<br>
04. SUSPENSE ("The Thirteenth Sound") (2-13-47)<br>
05. CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER ("The Old Ones Are Hard To Kill") (1-6-74)<br>
06. SUSPENSE ("The Trap") (6-16-49)<br>
07. SUSPENSE ("The Death Parade") (2-15-51)<br>
08. SUSPENSE ("Don't Call Me Mother") (1-4-59)<br>
09. INNER SANCTUM ("Terror By Night") (6-29-52)<br>
10. SUSPENSE ("Uncle Henry's Rosebush") (6-29-43)<br>
11. SUSPENSE ("The Signalman") (3-23-53)<br>
12. CBS RADIO MYSTERY THEATER ("The Ring Of Truth") (1-26-74)<br>
13. SUSPENSE ("The Evil Of Adelaide Winters") (9-10-51)<br>
14. SUSPENSE ("The Chain") (4-27-50)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VIDEOS ADDED IN EARLY DECEMBER OF 2021:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID (ON THE 10th DAY OF DECEMBER, 2021):</span></b><br />
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I was watching some of my CBS-TV material from the day after JFK's death (11/23/63), and realized I could create another <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2013/10/kennedy-era-news-capsules.html">Kennedy-Era News Capsule</a></b> from a portion of that coverage. So that's what I did, right here:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALSO ON 12/10/21, DVP REMARKED:</span></b><br />
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While rewatching another segment of CBS-TV's post-assassination coverage from 11/23/63, I rediscovered the brief video snippet presented below, which I have now added as an addendum to my <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2018/03/news-media-errors-november-22-24-1963.html">"News Media Errors"</a></b> webpages. Take note of the slightly exasperated member of the behind-the-scenes CBS news team, who suddenly finds himself on the air right in the middle of President Lyndon Johnson's address to the nation:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">A 12/14/2021 ADDITION:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADDED ON DECEMBER 29, 2021:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">AN OLD-TIME RADIO SHOW HOSTED BY PETER LORRE (ADDED ON JANUARY 3, 2022):</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">IN LATE JANUARY 2022, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I recently found an uncut version of David L. Wolper's 1964 made-for-television documentary <i>"A Thousand Days"</i> (linked below). The <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2-OhzkwjAf0aG00UHlCVzg3ZlU/view">version of the film</a></b> that I previously had in my collection is missing about three minutes. So it's nice to be able to finally see the complete film with those missing minutes intact.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADDED ON JANUARY 30, 2022:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADDED ON MARCH 5, 2022:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">APRIL 17, 2022:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ANOTHER "NEWS CAPSULE" ADDED ON <br>APRIL 25, 2022:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">THIS 1972 BASEBALL FILM WAS ADDED <br>ON MAY 19, 2022:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JUNE 23, 2022, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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Thanks to my friend and fellow collector of JFK-related audio and video, Eric Paddon, I was able to acquire the following 3+ hours of rare radio material. This Fort Wayne coverage includes mostly network news reports from ABC Radio and a little from CBS Radio. Thank you, Mr. Paddon! ....<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADDED ON JULY 24, 2022:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">A GRIPPING OLD-TIME RADIO EPISODE <br>(ADDED ON SEPTEMBER 4, 2022):</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON OCTOBER 6, 2022, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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I've just added another Cincinnati Reds baseball game to my archives. This one is from 1977 and features Tony Perez' first appearance at his old Riverfront Stadium stomping grounds since he was traded away by the Reds to the Montreal Expos following the 1976 season (oh, what a terrible trade). Another highlight from this game is Pete Rose's 500th career double:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADDED IN OCTOBER & NOVEMBER OF 2022:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JANUARY 5, 2023, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I added this Reds/Cubs baseball game to my digital collection today, and it's a real barn burner to be sure. 31 runs, 43 base hits, and 11 home runs. It's just too bad that my Reds lost this one:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JANUARY 7, 2023, DVP SAID:</span></b><br />
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I just happened to notice today that <i>The Sixth Floor Museum's</i> website has recently added many full-length interviews from their extensive <b><a href="https://emuseum.jfk.org/collections/37372/oral-history-collection/objects">Oral History Collection</a></b>. In past years, only limited excerpts from those interviews had been made available on the <i>Sixth Floor</i> site.<br>
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One of those full-length programs is linked below. It's the complete four-hour video version of the June 2002 Oral History interview featuring assassination eyewitness Buell Wesley Frazier. My <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B66zFAvTgxxISUhXaldpNmN2QmM/view">previous version</a></b> of this interview is in audio form only and contains just half of the complete program. So this represents a nice upgrade.<br>
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My thanks go out to <i>The Sixth Floor Museum At Dealey Plaza</i> for making available this entire interview (plus many others) on their public website.<br>
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Whether or not the <b><a href="https://emuseum.jfk.org/collections/37372/oral-history-collection/objects">current collection</a></b> of complete and uncut Oral History programs will remain on <i>The Sixth Floor</i> website in the future, I cannot say. But as of this date (January 7, 2023), the uncut programs are indeed available to view, free of charge.<br>
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Here's the uncut Buell Frazier interview from 2002:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP ADDED THIS EXCITING REDS' GAME <br>ON JANUARY 30, 2023:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADDED ON APRIL 19, 2023:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADDED ON APRIL 26, 2023:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">A COUPLE OF JUNE 2023 ADDITIONS:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ON JUNE 30, 2023, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br />
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I found this gem at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library's YouTube channel today:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VIDEOS ADDED IN EARLY JULY 2023:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADDED IN LATE DECEMBER 2023:</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">A JANUARY 2024 ADDITION:</span></b><br />
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Special thanks to:<br>
<b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaPMn2PMzxdHd0--3sTr_La3wNsnb7NyQ">KFMB-TV (Channel 8) in San Diego, California</a></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23259-dvps-new-master-videoaudio-index/">December 5, 2016—July 31, 2019</a><br />
<a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/nEyf5jf9hYM/wbqdcPncDgAJ">December 6, 2016—April 11, 2021</a><br />
<a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23250-david-lifton-teases-final-charade-on-the-night-fright-show/&page=15#comment-344219">February 17-19, 2017</a><br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/243480929145732/permalink/853020214858464">December 12, 2017</a><br />
<a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/HsNRqiCZx1o/ahquRfLgAwAJ">March 27-29, 2019</a><br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/243480929145732/permalink/1216039101889905">April 12, 2019</a><br />
<a href="https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.assassination.jfk/-8ki-kgRpEc/t5mGbt2vDQAJ">April 22-24, 2019</a><br />
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/xgNb9g3dFXQ/m/WB_nqn1bAwAJ">March 13, 2021</a><br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/12/dvp-master-video-index.html#Posts-Beginning-In-June-2021">June 17, 2021—January 14, 2024</a><br>
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-63072541846927213402024-03-01T03:03:00.000-08:002024-03-17T16:40:32.127-07:00 NEWSPAPER FRONT PAGES FOR EACH OF JOHN F. KENNEDY'S 1,037 DAYS AS PRESIDENT (1961—1963) <br><base target="_blank">
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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For ten months, between June 8, 2021, and April 15, 2022, I worked on a project to archive the images of 1,037 newspaper front pages, corresponding to each and every day that John F. Kennedy served as President of the United States—from January 20, 1961, through November 22, 1963. All 1,037 of those newspaper front pages can be viewed at the link below:<br>
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A dozen highlights are shown below (click to enlarge each page):<br>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #1:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #88:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #332:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #397:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #641:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #642:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #873:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #888:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #932:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #951:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #1036:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:200%;">DAY #1037:</span></b><br></center>
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<center><span style="font-size: large;"><b>For several more newspaper highlights from JFK's <br>34 months as President, click the logo below:</b><br></center>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:258%;"><span style="color: blue;">MORE DVP NEWSPAPER COLLECTIONS:</span></span></b><br></center>
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<center><b><span style="font-size:large;">JFK AND NON-JFK NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS:</span></b><br /></center>
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-23333804616513243252024-03-01T03:02:00.000-08:002024-03-01T11:58:07.962-08:00 INTERVIEW WITH DVP (TOPICS: TELEVISION AND THE JFK ASSASSINATION) <br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">MITCHELL HADLEY SAID:</span></span><br />
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<i>It is often said that television truly came of age with its coverage of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. I think that can be a bit overstated, but there's no question that, almost 50 years later, the <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com">"As It Happened"</a></b> coverage, coming as it did like a lightning bolt out of the blue of an ordinary Friday afternoon in November, remains absolutely riveting.<br />
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Until the advent of YouTube, access to this video coverage, which tells you the story in a way totally unlike the history book or the newspaper, was relatively hard to come by, limited mostly to video traders and online dealers. Today, however, anyone can call up hours of footage, not only from the three networks but also from local television and radio.<br />
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Of the various sites devoted to the JFK assassination, few come with the video treasure that can be found on the sites run by <b><a href="https://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520">David Von Pein</a></b>. An outspoken believer (as am I) that Lee Harvey Oswald was the one and only assassin of Kennedy, Von Pein has amassed an incredible amount of video history on JFK -- not just the assassination, but various tributes, documentaries and movies, not to mention rarely seen clips from Kennedy's 1960 presidential campaign. As someone who has spent more than a few hours with my own JFK collection, I thought David would be an outstanding choice for the inaugural "It's About TV" interview.</i><br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">QUESTION:</span><br />
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David, thanks first of all for your time. We're going to be talking about collecting old television shows on DVD, because you have <b><a href="http://www.intervocative.com/DVDCollection.aspx/David%20VP">an amazing collection</a></b>, not just of the JFK assassination, but all kinds of TV series and movies. Do your friends and family think you’re kind of, uh, nuts for doing this? Because I know some of the looks I get, I have to go into this long academic discussion about how this is all historical research, in order to justify what is probably really a guilty pleasure.</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID: </span></span><br />
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No, I don't think my family thinks I'm TOTALLY crazy. Just a LITTLE bit. ~wink~ <br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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So tell me - how did you first get interested in the Kennedy assassination? Was this a contemporary event for you, something you'd always been interested in, or is this a case of a young man looking back at a particular point in time?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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I was born on <b><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Sw2-908gs5I/T_tR0P0-qyI/AAAAAAAAD-M/m6s43T9y4aM/s1600/JFK-White-House-Diary-Page-12-27-61.png">December 27, 1961</a></b> (when JFK was President, coincidentally), so I don't remember the assassination (or JFK as a President) at all. I just know that (for me) there's something about Mr. Kennedy, his Presidency, his family, and his assassination that are endlessly fascinating.<br />
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I first got deeply interested in President Kennedy's assassination in 1981, when I read David Lifton's book, <i>Best Evidence</i> [book review <b><a href="http://best-evidence.blogspot.com">here</a></b>].<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Yeah, I remember reading that book as well. Seemed plausible to me at the time. Maybe I just wanted to believe it was something exotic.</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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Back at that time, I really wasn't a conspiracy theorist, nor can I remember really being a "lone assassin" believer either. I guess I must have been somewhere in-between, but, frankly, I just cannot remember having a strong opinion about the matter one way or the other back then--even after reading Lifton's book.<br />
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I'm just glad I didn't place too much faith in <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/07/david-von-pein-vs-david-lifton.html">Mr. Lifton's nutty theories</a></b> about casket-switching and body alteration. But even though I didn't really buy into any of Lifton's outlandish theories, I do recall that his book got me much more interested in the JFK murder case.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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So here's the $64,000 question: who did it?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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I think Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby acted on their own in November 1963, which is a position that places me in the distinct minority when it comes to that subject. As of late 2003, a <b><a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/news3.htm#Kennedy">Gallup Poll</a></b> indicated that 75% of Americans believe that some kind of a conspiracy existed to murder the President in Dallas.<br />
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The hard physical evidence, however, just simply does not support conspiracy in the JFK case, and the majority of circumstantial evidence doesn't support the beliefs of that 75% of Americans either. And I think I provide a good deal of support to back up my "Lone Nut" opinions on <b><a href="http://dvp-jfk-blogs.blogspot.com">my various JFK websites</a></b>.<br />
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I've talked with many conspiracy theorists in the last several years, and it's quite remarkable to me that so many of these theorists--on the Internet anyway--are not just believers in a conspiracy (per se), but many of the online "CTers" (as conspiracists are often called on Internet forums and websites) also believe that Lee Oswald was completely innocent of BOTH President Kennedy's murder and the murder of Police Officer J.D. Tippit as well.<br />
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But given the evidence that conclusively proves for all time that Oswald was most certainly guilty of <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#JD-Tippit">Tippit's slaying</a></b>, such an "Oswald Is Innocent" stance is just flat-out nutty. Simple as that.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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As your interest increased, did you ever think there would be such a treasure trove of video material to review?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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No, I never did think I'd be able to collect such a vast amount of video and audio material associated with JFK's assassination. But over a period of time, I've been able to amass quite a library of videos, as well as many audio programs, connected to John F. Kennedy, his Presidency, and his untimely death, along with a large number of photographs as well.<br />
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I am grateful to many people for supplying me with a lot of these materials, some of which I have obtained from other private collectors like myself, while other material, such as the photos that I have put in my large <b><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com">Kennedy Photo Album</a></b>, has been collected through the means of this great tool known as the Internet and the World Wide Web.<br />
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The number of pictures that were taken of JFK and his family is simply staggering. I will occasionally add photos to my above-linked Kennedy Album, and each time I search for more photos, I seem to find a dozen new ones that I had never seen before. It's amazing.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Your <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/08/video-playlists.html">YouTube channel</a></b> on the JFK assassination is just incredible. You have hours of continuous footage from all three of the broadcast networks, not just from November 22 itself, but from all of the four days. It’s much more comprehensive than the highlights you see on commemorative shows, and it really puts things in a proper context. How did you first start collecting the JFK videos? Was there something in particular that interested you, or that you were looking for? Or did one thing lead to another?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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My interest in JFK and the assassination prompted my interest in the video-collecting thing. As you know, President Kennedy's murder was the first huge news story of the television age that was covered as it was happening. <b><a href="http://oswald-has-been-shot.blogspot.com">Oswald's murder</a></b> on live TV is still a one-of-a-kind event (as far as I know). The footage from the Dallas police basement is still amazing--even 40+ years later.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Why are people still fascinated by this, after almost fifty years? I mean, besides your site there are hundreds of JFK assassination videos posted to YouTube - what's the attraction? Is it our fascination with the Kennedys, is it the "history as it happened" aspect of the coverage, is it the sense of horror and shock that still resonates when you watch the coverage unfold, a sense of nostalgia for an era since gone, or is there something else?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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Well, I can't really know for sure what other people's thoughts are about this issue, but as far as I am concerned, there's just something about JFK and his era (the early 1960s) that is endlessly appealing and interesting. It's just "there". At least for me it is, and perhaps other people feel the same way.<br />
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And that feeling extends to President Kennedy's tragic murder too. It's just "there", something deep down that makes the case fascinating and intriguing (even though I, myself, firmly believe that nobody else was involved in the President's murder other than Oswald).<br />
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But the way things unfolded that weekend (even with Oswald guilty alone) is perpetually interesting .... including, of course, the unbelievable drama that was played out in the police basement two days later, with Jack Ruby killing Oswald on live TV and in front of 70 policemen.<br />
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Anyway, I can't know the answer to your last very good question, Mitchell, but for <i>me</i> the JFK murder case will never go away, even though I do think it was "solved" virtually the day it occurred in November 1963.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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So looking back on it after almost fifty years, what's your opinion of the television coverage, and which networks do you think did the best and the worst jobs?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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That's a tough question. I think that it might be a tie for best network coverage of the assassination--between <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-nbc-tv.html">NBC</a></b> and <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-cbs-tv.html">CBS</a></b>, with <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-abc-tv.html">ABC</a></b> definitely ranking third, in my opinion, although I think the ABC News team did a good job too, but their facilities seemed to be a few notches below the other two major TV networks. (Have you seen the footage from the ABC studios in New York from 11/22/63? It literally looks like they were broadcasting from an <b><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tg6iQDPwUxE/UMW0BUPomOI/AAAAAAAAA2A/d77H7_vtFOI/s600/3-Shots-That-Changed-America-ABC-TV-Text-Caption.png">unfinished basement</a></b>. It's hilarious. But I think Mr. Cochran and company did the very best they could.)<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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The local coverage from Dallas was quite good, especially the ABC affiliate, on whose coverage the network relied heavily.</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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That would be <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2012/03/wfaa-tv.html">WFAA-TV</a></b>, with Jay Watson anchoring much of the coverage from November 22nd. And I completely agree with you about WFAA's excellent coverage. They did a very good job, even though they were a bit disorganized and rattled in the first hour or two, with Watson not being able to decide whether to broadcast from the studio or the newsroom. But that kind of disorganization is fun to watch. It gives a true sense of being there "live" during a crisis as it is happening.<br />
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And WFAA was able to provide some very interesting interviews with some of the eyewitnesses within literally minutes of the shooting (Bill and Gayle Newman). And Watson interviewed Abraham Zapruder just two hours after Abe took his famous 26-second home movie of the assassination.<br />
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All of that stuff is archived on my websites as well. I've even provided separate videos that show only the interviews of various witnesses, such as <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/11/bill-and-gayle-newman.html">the Newmans</a></b> and <b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2009/12/zapruder.html">Mr. Zapruder</a></b>.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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One thing that’s changed since 1963, of course, is the advent of the all-news network. I mean, here you had the president of the United States shot, perhaps fatally, and because the networks don’t have cameras warmed up yet they can’t switch to the studio, so they just do voiceovers where they’re reading the wire service copy, and then they return to regular programming and commercials!</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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Yes, it is indeed surreal to look at the first bulletins now and try to imagine anyone being the slightest bit interested in a Nescafe coffee ad or an episode of <i>Father Knows Best</i> after hearing those initial tragic bulletins.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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The ABC affiliate in New York, I think it is, is showing a rerun of <i>Father Knows Best</i> when the first bulletins come in, where Bud is apparently trying to make himself look older for a date he has with an older woman. We have the interruption for an update on the shooting, and then when we go back to regular programming he's saying goodbye to the girl on the steps of her house, and in that moment between those two scenes it's almost as if the world has completely changed. What was a pressing problem for Bud pre-bulletin now seems to be almost a nostalgic look back at the past, a world that we might never see again. Perhaps it's just our contemporary perspective, looking back on it after all these years and knowing the tumult that's to come, but I find that moment in retrospect to be so naive, actually extremely moving.</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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BTW, I now have that complete episode of <i>Father Knows Best</i> on DVD--from the <b><a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/R3JYNQT0GOR3K">third season</a></b> of that series. It's an episode called <b><a href="https://app.box.com/s/pcbee708ov7tvdidww2p">"Man About Town"</a></b>, and I always think of the ABC bulletins whenever I watch that show, halfway expecting an "ABC Bulletin" slide to appear on the screen after the girl says <i>"Go on, Bud, it sounds exciting."</i><br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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That's ironic, the timing of the bulletin, isn't it? A little too exciting, sadly. So, if all-news networks had existed back then, would the coverage have been better or worse? I know that's kind of a loaded question, but when I think back to Congresswoman Giffords' shooting, and all the misinformation that followed, I wonder if today's coverage would have been any better than it was in '63. But, having said that, do you think there's any chance the conspiracy theories would have been as prevalent if today's technology had existed? Or are the conspiracies after 9/11 proof that it wouldn't have mattered?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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I think your comment about <b><a href="http://sept-11-2001.blogspot.com">9/11</a></b> is on-target. If people can actually be goofy enough to think that <i>NO AIRPLANES AT ALL</i> struck the Pentagon and the World Trade Center (even with VIDEO FOOTAGE of the planes striking both WTC towers!), then I have no doubt that if the JFK murder had occurred in the 21st century, there would probably be just as many ridiculous conspiracy theories as there are today about the JFK case. Possibly even more.<br />
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And there are now conspiracy theories about Osama Bin Laden's recent death. People just love conspiracies and plots and secrets--even when they make no sense at all (such as with 9/11).<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Out of the mountain of footage, what are the moments that stand out for you as being the most memorable from the four days?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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That's another toughie. I'm not sure I can narrow it down to just one single memorable moment. So, I'll list my top 4 (off the top of my head):<br />
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1.) <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8UwZ588YcqIM2QxZ09BRHpSWnM/view">Walter Cronkite's emotional announcement</a></b> of the President's death on CBS-TV. Oddly enough, I think Walter's emotions have become just as famous as the bulletin itself. For the record, Mr. Cronkite displayed his inner feelings on the air at least one other time that weekend. Walter broke up a little bit on Saturday, November 23 when he was reading <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B294SBAT_oH6djlxSVltQ0JPMVE/view">this story</a></b> about President Kennedy's son, John Jr.<br />
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2.) Lee Harvey Oswald being <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HmTmsc5Yp560bWXK_-7YKeAJB8NxXw4W/view">shot and killed</a></b> by Jack Ruby on live TV.<br />
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3.) This one is a pre-assassination moment --- before JFK gave his last speech in Fort Worth, there's a point in the TV coverage when the announcer starts talking (in some detail) about the 1901 assassination of President McKinley. In light of what happened in Dallas just three hours later, <b><a href="http://jfk-in-fort-worth.blogspot.com">those remarks</a></b> about McKinley's murder are quite chilling and poignant.<br />
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4.) Another eerie pre-assassination moment is when KRLD-Radio reporter Bob Huffaker is providing live reports from Main Street in Dallas as JFK's motorcade passes by his position.<br />
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After the President's car goes by, Huffaker continues to broadcast live on KRLD-Radio for several more minutes. Bob was telling the radio audience how smoothly everything went with the motorcade, and how there were no anti-Kennedy demonstrations, etc. Huffaker was literally on the air live as JFK was being shot just a short distance down the street in Dealey Plaza.<br />
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If Huffaker had been located closer to Elm and Houston Streets, his open microphone would have likely picked up the sound of Lee Oswald's three rifle shots from the Texas School Book Depository Building in Dealey Plaza.<br />
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The FBI, in fact, did a detailed analysis of Huffaker's recording to see if any gunshots were audible on the audio tape. Unfortunately, none could be heard, as Huffaker was located too far east of the shooting scene. <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EV-t1EEYzZ3uSuz08GIWYUDmop13ym16/view">Here</a></b> is Huffaker's recording.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Speaking of Cronkite, it’s interesting how he’s become shorthand for the assassination coverage – whenever a period movie or show wants to depict it, they always use the CBS clips, even though we know from contemporary accounts that more people watched NBC and Huntley-Brinkley than CBS and ABC together. Is that because CBS already had the tape rolling whereas the other networks didn’t, or is it because Cronkite’s stature has grown even more in the years since?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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I think Walter Cronkite's bulletin would still be the most famous -- even if NBC had rolled tape sooner. I don't think that delay had much to do with anything in the long run.<br />
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I just hate hearing people now bad-mouthing Mr. Cronkite (following his death a year or two ago). Some conspiracy people were calling Walter a traitor and a liar and a CIA stooge, etc. Just ridiculous. It makes me sick.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Is there a "Holy Grail" for Kennedy assassination video collectors and researchers? Anything you'd like to see but haven't seen yet?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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Oh, there are lots of things I'd like to have in my collection that I currently do not possess -- such as more of the live "as it's happening" type of TV and radio coverage from any number of U.S. stations and markets, such as the Chicago coverage (WLS and WGN), and Los Angeles, and San Francisco, and Miami, and many other cities.<br />
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In 2008, I was lucky enough to obtain almost 40 hours of November 1963 audio material from radio station <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-wlw-radio.html">WLW in Cincinnati</a></b>, and it got me to thinking about <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FwGKz5t9mRo/YW4OOQ22lMI/AAAAAAABZcs/QQwptWH5MwUidKLU9EyIA3dNyUG0CgFxACLcBGAsYHQ/s4000/YouTube-JFK-Channel-Comment-October-18-2021.png">all of those other major cities</a></b> which were covering the JFK assassination for hundreds of other radio and television stations across the country, very little of which has ever been heard or seen since 1963.<br />
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But it seems to me that if WLW had nearly 40 hours of footage archived somewhere in its vaults for over 40 years, it stands to reason that many other TV and radio outlets might have saved their audio and video from those four dark days too.<br />
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I'd also like to see (or hear) the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/10/parkland-press-conference-11-22-63.html">Parkland Hospital press conference</a></b> that was given by Dr. Malcolm Perry and Dr. Kemp Clark on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. As far as I know, however, that conference has never surfaced in either an audio or video form.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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My wife would say this discussion is getting exceedingly morbid, so let me close with some questions about classic television. What's your favorite show of all time?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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Another tough inquiry from you, Mitch. I'm going to have to do a "list" of favorites (again), because I cannot narrow it down to just one single show. That's impossible. So, I'll give you my Top 6:<br />
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<b><i><a href="http://leave-it-to-beaver-on-dvd.blogspot.com">Leave It To Beaver</a></b><br />
<b><a href="http://dick-van-dyke-show.blogspot.com">The Dick Van Dyke Show</a></b><br />
<b><a href="http://the--fugitive.blogspot.com">The Fugitive</a></b><br />
<b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2009/12/andy-griffith-show.html">The Andy Griffith Show</a></b><br />
<b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2009/11/mary-tyler-moore-show.html">The Mary Tyler Moore Show</a></b><br />
<b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2013/09/father-knows-best.html">Father Knows Best</a></b> (especially Season 3)</i><br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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What do you think is the most underrated show, from that era?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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I can tell you one particular TV series that I, myself, severely underrated before buying the first four seasons on DVD in the last few years -- and that's <i>Father Knows Best</i>.<br />
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After watching the episodes of <i>FKB</i> on DVD, I began to realize what a truly outstanding show it was (and still is). I don't know if other people "underrated" <i>FKB</i>, but I know I sure did.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Do you think TV was better back then than it is now?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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Oh, yes, I think TV was much better "back then" (i.e., in the "Golden Age" of the 1950s and 1960s, and even through the 1970s too).<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Why is that, do you think? I’m always concerned it’s because I’ve just become an old fuddy-duddy, even though I’m not that old.</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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I really can't pinpoint the exact reasons for my opinion, but I certainly watch a lot more of the "oldies" on TV (and via DVD) than I do current offerings on the boob tube.<br />
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I think part of the reason is that the performers, writers, and producers of the older TV shows put a lot more of their heart and soul (and talent, of course) into making the older shows the best they could possibly be.<br />
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It's not that the TV people of today don't put a lot of effort and sweat into their current shows too. I didn't mean to suggest that. But the quality of the older shows (like my "Top 6" list above) cannot be denied.<br />
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And as far as I am concerned, there hasn't been another drama series like <i>The Fugitive</i> come along since David Janssen's iconic series ended in 1967. And as for comedy--it's hard to beat <i>Mary Tyler Moore</i> and <i>Dick Van Dyke</i>...and even <i>"The Beaver"</i>...for genuine, realistic laughs and situations.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Lastly (for now), what are the best retro TV sites on the web?</b><br />
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<span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">DAVID VON PEIN: </span></span><br />
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Here are a few sites about individual television series (or performers) that I really like:<br />
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<b><i><a href="http://davidjanssen.net">The David Janssen Archive</a></b><br />
<b><a href="http://the--fugitive.blogspot.com">The Fugitive</a></i></b> [This one's my own.] 😁<br />
<b><i><a href="http://www.retroweb.com/universal_leave_it_to_beaver.html">Leave It To Beaver</a></b></i><br />
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And before my current advertising campaign ceases (grin), allow me to steer you to my "Classic Movies" website --- <b><a href="http://Classic--Movies.blogspot.com">http://Classic--Movies.blogspot.com</a></b>.<br />
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Of course that oft-used word "classic" is a very subjective term, as we all know. But I think you'll agree that I've included a lot of truly great all-time classic films in there. I think my photo galleries for those movies are very worthwhile too, as well as my Kennedy photo album, which I recently revamped and expanded.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size:130%;">MITCHELL HADLEY:</span><br />
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Thanks so much for your time and insight, David. We'll be sharing some unique footage of the <b><a href="http://www.itsabouttv.com/2011/10/jfk-funeral-cultural-spotlight.html">JFK assassination coverage</a></b> over the next few days.</b><br />
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June 2011<br />
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-69505826918376547302024-03-01T03:01:00.000-08:002024-03-01T11:59:11.153-08:00 INTERVIEW #2 WITH DVP <br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PATRICK McDONALD SAID:</span></b><br>
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<i>At 12:30pm Central Time on November 22nd, 1963, President John F. Kennedy was killed by an assassin’s bullet. The three shots that echoed through Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas, have resonated for years, but beyond the actual event there was a treasure trove of TV and radio coverage that was recorded.<br>
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David Von Pein has collected this coverage and it can be found on his comprehensive YouTube channel. Click <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/DavidVonPeinJFK">HERE</a></b> to start browsing.<br>
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Not only has David found high-quality, as-it-happened video from the three major networks at the time -- CBS-TV, NBC-TV and ABC-TV -- but the channel also contains the local Dallas coverage (TV and radio) and a collection of radio coverage from different markets, special programming and post-assassination coverage, including the killing of JFK's alleged assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, and JFK’s funeral.<br>
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The depth, breadth and dive into this media is a revealing time machine, both in being within the midst of the events and the state of the journalism of the time, including an important step in television news coverage that preceded and predicted the future 24/7 news cycle.<br>
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I’ve been a fan of the channel for many years, and I continue to visit for the updates or to re-listen or re-watch the hours and hours of broadcasting, learning more about the times of the assassination and the atmosphere that the media created. The television news teams 58 years ago were best described as “radio on the air,” as the ability to go live to an event was hampered by the overwhelming bulk of cameras and remote broadcasting capabilities in the pre-digital age. Yet, NBC-TV was able to show the Lee Harvey Oswald killing live (still chilling) and the technology of “instant replay,” which was to make its debut at a college football game in December of 1963, was then utilized to re-show a murder on television.<br>
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In my interview with curator David Von Pein, we talk about his journey within all things assassination-related and John Fitzgerald Kennedy.</i><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">QUESTION:</span></b><br>
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<b>DVP, thank you for getting back to me regarding this inquiry. In all the stuff on the web and on YouTube, yours is actually one of the most passionate collections, and it contributes and enhances our culture, education and knowledge. It's an honor to have you answer the questions below....<br>
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The depth, breadth and comprehensiveness of your YouTube channel on the assassination of John F. Kennedy continues to astound me. In collecting all this audio/video ephemera, what strikes you about the state of the U.S. and the world on November 22nd, 1963, and what do you think it reveals to us today?</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Well, Patrick, this is probably going to sound silly and naive, but whenever I watch or listen to anything from my <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com">JFK Assassination audio/video collection</a></b>, I often can't help but think to myself how much <i>better</i> everything seemed to be back in the early 1960s.<br>
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I think perhaps I belong permanently in the Kennedy era of the '60s. And my fixation on <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com">JFK material and other videos</a></b> focusing on that decade would tend to support my last statement.<br>
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Things in the 1960s seemed to be simpler. People dressed nicer. People talked better, using less slang and much better grammar than today (for the most part). There were no smartphones in everybody's hands. No personal computers. No $50,000 SUVs with GPS. No 55-inch HD televisions. No Amazon.com. And no <i>Office of Homeland Security</i>.<br>
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Mind you, I'm not knocking all those electronic gadgets that we have in today's world that didn't exist in 1963. Oh no! Not at all! I love my new 50-inch Toshiba LED 4K UHD Smart FireTV television set. It's great. And I don't know how I could survive for even a single day without my PC. I'd be totally lost without that contraption (and I'd probably be forced to commit hari-kari if I had to go more than <i>two</i> days without hearing the dulcet tones of the Microsoft Windows start-up theme music). 😁<br>
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So from strictly a <i>technological</i> standpoint, the world we live in today certainly beats out JFK's era by a mile (or more). I was just attempting to comment on how different and simpler—and less mechanical—everything was back in 1963.<br>
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I don't really have an opinion about the "politics" of 1963 vs. the political situation as it exists today in 2021. I'm not a political person at all. I stay away from discussions regarding politics as much as I can. But I will say this: I think we lost one of the best Presidents this country ever had when <b><a href="http://oswald-is-guilty.blogspot.com">Lee Harvey Oswald</a></b> fired those three shots at John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PATRICK McDONALD:</span></b><br>
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<b>In a <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/07/dvp-interview-about-television-and-jfk.html">previous interview</a></b> that you've done, you ruminated on the strangeness of the <i>Father Knows Best</i> episode that gets interrupted by the ABC bulletin on the assassination and then is returned to complete before they go to their 24/7 coverage. In the other audio or video within the collection, can you point toward any other instance where the initial bulletin is proclaimed, and then the "normal" programming is resumed to strike a before and after ironic note?</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN:</span></b><br>
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Well, I don't know about the "ironic note" part of this, but there are other examples of television and radio stations and networks resuming their regular programming on 11/22/63 after delivering their initial bulletins on the Presidential shooting. A good example of this happening comes from the <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-cbs-tv.html">CBS-TV coverage</a></b> on November 22nd, when the normal CBS soap opera that was airing between 1:30 and 2:00 PM (EST)—<i>"As The World Turns"</i>—was interrupted at 1:40 PM (EST) by Walter Cronkite's first voice-over bulletin about the assassination attempt against President Kennedy that had just occurred minutes earlier in Dallas, Texas. That first CBS-TV bulletin lasted for precisely 59 seconds, with CBS then going back to regular programming with a Nescafe coffee commercial.<br>
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Other instances (on radio) of regular Friday programming being resumed on 11/22/63 after the first assassination bulletin was aired include the coverage of the <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2012/08/abc-radio.html">ABC Radio Network</a></b>. [Note——The resumption of the regular program that was interrupted by Don Gardiner, however, is not heard on my archived version of the ABC Radio broadcast. But it is clear from Gardiner's words that the day's regular programming <i>was</i> being resumed for at least a brief period following ABC Radio's very first bulletin concerning the shooting—which, by the way, is a bulletin that beat all other national radio and television networks to the punch on November 22nd. ABC Radio was the first national U.S. network to report on the Dallas shooting, at 1:36 PM EST (12:36 PM CST in Dallas).]<br>
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Here are five additional examples of local radio stations from across the country which went back to their regularly scheduled programs following their first assassination bulletin:<br>
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KLIF Radio in Dallas, Texas:<br>
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<a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/jfk-assassination-klif-radio.html"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WgjHOmzFU7E/YOYAY7uEZ0I/AAAAAAABYt8/bTA3t-LyIvooDbHLCAimRf1LCzNsj2nMwCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/KLIF-Radio-Logo.png"></a><br>
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WLW Radio in Cincinnati, Ohio:<br>
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<a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2012/03/wlw-radio.html"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5kJ10W4U90E/YSge3j_T3pI/AAAAAAABZNA/NbUdNQ5se80zBT8OhjUZwnf0TPOa135igCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/WLW-Radio-JFK-Assassination-Extended-Coverage-Logo.png"></a><br>
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KNX Radio in Los Angeles, California:<br>
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<a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2013/10/knx-radio.html"><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FRExNN86vC0/UlSruRx26HI/AAAAAAAAv9M/X_tEjnnvrKA/s530/KNX-Radio+Playlist+Logo.png"></a><br>
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KXA Radio in Seattle, Washington:<br>
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<a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2015/11/kxa-radio.html"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-s_1_4SrL090/V_JyKjz2hCI/AAAAAAABKqE/T6U1gyNAzrs88k1LwbpLAF6NL8IBpkWtQCLcB/s530/KXA-Radio-Logo.png"></a><br>
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WTIC Radio in Hartford, Connecticut:<br>
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<a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2013/11/wtic-radio.html"><img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mDrwGMC0zrM/WqyQT5EkqZI/AAAAAAABOec/vHq_miD_144V7_HmZoIe31mQ61BegqobACLcBGAs/s530/WTIC-Radio-Logo.png"></a><br>
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The WTIC audio above has become one of my very favorite assassination-related videos. (See the description I wrote within my WTIC logo above.) It was first made available in 2013 (on YouTube) by Doug Bertel, the son of one of the WTIC announcers, Dick Bertel, who can be heard during the November 22 Hartford coverage.<br>
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Here's something else concerning that WTIC Radio broadcast that might be of some interest --- it's an e-mail conversation I had with Doug Bertel on November 22, 2013 (which was, of course, the 50th anniversary of JFK's death):<br>
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<b>E-Mail Subject: WTIC<br>
Date: 11/22/2013 (3:06 PM EST)<br>
From: Doug Bertel<br>
To: David Von Pein<br>
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Hi, Dave!<br>
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I've got to say, it's kind of a thrill to make your acquaintance. I really do admire your collection of JFK materials and can't help but be flattered that you found the WTIC audio worthy to be included in it. I guess it's fair to say that I'm a fan.<br>
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Also, I wanted to tell you that I love that you appended the audio from WLW to the end of the WTIC recording. The audio from my dad's collection just ends where it does in my video. I actually thought about doing what you did, but decided against it for two reasons. One, the WLW audio was yours and I didn't want to "steal" it. And also, I didn't want to suggest that the WTIC audio is more complete than it actually is. But given your collection and the stature it lends you, you were in a much better position to address both of those matters. And, in fact, your version is just better story telling --- which is what makes radio great anyway.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Doug<br>
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<b>E-Mail Subject: WTIC<br>
Date: 11/22/2013 (4:24 PM EST)<br>
From: David Von Pein<br>
To: Doug Bertel<br>
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Hi Doug,<br>
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Good to meet you and thanks so much for your e-mail.<br>
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You better believe that your WTIC audio is worthy of inclusion in my collection. In fact, the WTIC coverage is quickly becoming a favorite of mine already. So I'm very grateful to you for uploading it in the first place. And I'm glad I found it.<br>
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Yes, I added the last few minutes from my WLW archive in order to "complete" the story [confirming JFK's death]. It's too bad your copy simply ends abruptly just minutes--maybe seconds--before Edwin Newman's famous <i>"The Priests Say He's Dead Of Bullet Wounds"</i> announcement. But, thankfully, at least there is another audio source for that very same material.<br>
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Feel free to write back anytime---hopefully with tons of additional "new" JFK audio from various radio stations around the country. ~grin~<br>
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Actually, though, Doug, speaking of that -- Just yesterday (11/21/13), incredibly, I came across TWO more pieces of audio from other radio stations that I had never heard before....and I'm going to be adding those audio clips to my collection on my websites and at YouTube very shortly (probably today, on Nov. 22nd).<br>
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The two stations are: <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2ERm-cucsE0RnJhekNOTC1FYk0/view">WGN in Chicago</a></b> and <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2ERm-cucsE0UWtwaTZScFFXTzQ/view">KXOL in Fort Worth</a></b>.<br>
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The Fort Worth footage doesn't start until about 6 PM on 11/22/63, but it's got some really interesting news reports from the local KXOL reporter--and remarkably accurate for the most part too. I was impressed by the amount of accurate detail in those KXOL reports. So I hope you'll enjoy that when I get it done and uploaded.<br>
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The WGN stuff is (quite literally) "hot off the press", so to speak. At least for me personally---because a Facebook friend sent me the link just a few hours ago and I haven't even listened to it yet.<br>
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I love finding "new" stuff for my sites. And there's probably lots more from various TV/radio markets too--it's just not been "found" as yet.<br>
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Thanks again for writing.<br>
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Regards,<br>
David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PATRICK McDONALD:</span></b><br>
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<b>You also include a nice collection of John F. Kennedy coverage before and during his administration. What is your favorite piece of coverage or moment in that collection that you think captures the spirit of the man?</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN:</span></b><br>
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I think my all-time favorite "JFK moment" is <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/08/jfk-speech-new-york-city-may-1962.html">THIS SPEECH</a></b> that President Kennedy made at Madison Square Garden in New York City on May 20, 1962. It's his <i>"Medical Care For The Aged"</i> speech, and it's simply fantastic. It almost looks like he's ad-libbing the whole 25-minute talk. A very inspiring and heartfelt speech indeed.<br>
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But I can't just stop with that one speech. I must give you a couple more "favorite" things from <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14eKM4koDBFQNusT_DbpGdddzJqeUMAWx">JFK's 1,037 days</a></b> in the White House....<br>
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There's this December 1962 interview with Mr. Kennedy (linked below). It was recorded by CBS-TV in the Oval Office, and it features several outstanding moments highlighting JFK's humor and his vast reservoir of knowledge pertaining to many topics:<br>
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<a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/after-two-years-conversation-with-jfk.html"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uiC0SolD6X8/U0R6niNc5uI/AAAAAAAAy8g/zq_LsNirJvI/s530/After+Two+Years--A+Conversation+With+The+President+Logo.png"></a><br>
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And there's also these 64 JFK press conferences. I can't really pick a favorite among the sixty-four. They're all very good. I was able to download and collect all of them (in audio form) when the JFK Library made them all available at their website in January 2011. A few of the conferences are also available in video format here too:<br>
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<a href="http://jfk-press-conferences.blogspot.com"><img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kZ5p5VAotfM/VRy3b_MxdjI/AAAAAAABFUc/Rjsp0O65bHg/s530/JFK-Press-Conferences-Logo-02.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PATRICK McDONALD:</span></b><br>
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<b>What was the circumstance of you obtaining the rare audio of the first JFK bulletins on NBC-TV, only recorded because an engineer was testing his equipment that morning?</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN:</span></b><br>
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The name of the man who recorded that rare NBC Television Network audio is Phil Gries, an avid collector of archival television audio. He had his audio tape recorder set up next to his television set at his home on Friday, November 22, 1963. He had just finished recording the audio of a program called <i>"Tell Us More"</i>, which aired that day from 1:00 to 1:30 PM (EST) on WNBC-TV in New York City.<br>
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At 1:45 PM, he noticed an "NBC Bulletin" slide come on the screen, interrupting the program (<i>"Bachelor Father"</i>) that was airing at the time on WNBC. Phil then quickly hit the "record" button on his tape recorder and was able to tape announcer Don Pardo's first two bulletins concerning the shooting of President Kennedy, plus the next four minutes of NBC-TV's coverage of the unfolding tragedy taking place in Dallas.<br>
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nSLTC37v6V0o27FnRO51QRnfp7PoORRK/view"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JJyjh8XlKYI/XiPkjRVxGrI/AAAAAAABTew/7et0QuLWRrsM9JIAZ11OJB45dmfdOVzIwCLcBGAsYHQ/s530/NBC-TV-Lost-Bulletins-Logo.jpg"></a></br>
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As of this date, that single recording made by Phil Gries is the only one in the world known to exist of those first few minutes of NBC-TV's 11/22/63 assassination coverage. (Due to the fact that NBC failed to record those first minutes on videotape.)<br>
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More information about Mr. Gries' one-of-a-kind audio recording, in Phil's own words, can be found at his <b><a href="https://www.atvaudio.com/jfk.php">website here</a></b>.<br>
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My acquisition of a digital copy of Phil's original "lost" NBC-TV bulletins came about on November 21, 2013, just one day prior to the 50th anniversary of the assassination. Here's an e-mail exchange I had with Phil Gries in November 2013, concerning his rare audio clips:<br>
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<b>E-Mail Subject: Question About Your Lost NBC Footage<br>
Date: 11/20/2013 (6:09 AM EST)<br>
From: David Von Pein<br>
To: Phil Gries<br>
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Hi Phil,<br>
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It's been a long time since I talked with you, but as the 50th anniversary of that terrible day back in '63 draws ever so nearer, I wanted to touch base with you regarding something you wrote on the <i>RadioDiscussions.com</i> website on November 18th [2013]. You said this:<br>
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<i><b>"All of the related "lost" footage that I recorded (a few moments have been omitted to prove I am the original taper) was donated a number of years ago to David Von Pein's incredible website channel and is currently accessible on its youtube link."</i></b><br>
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The above comment made my mouth water a little bit, because I am always wanting to add more and more material to my JFK Channel (if possible). And rare stuff is even better.<br>
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I said my mouth was watering because I'm a bit lost when you say you've "donated" ALL (or most) of your lost footage to me for use on my YouTube channel. I certainly don't remember you doing that.<br>
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In fact, the only clip from your "lost" material that is currently on my sites or on my YouTube channels is the first Don Pardo bulletin from 1:45:03 PM. I haven't used the 3 minutes & 53 seconds of lost footage or the second Pardo clip at all on my sites. But I did get your permission to use the first Pardo clip (as long as a credit was provided whenever I utilized it--which I have always done).<br>
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So, since this offer of a "donation" of other NBC material has apparently been made by you, I'm wondering if you could possibly e-mail the other clips (not counting the first Pardo clip, which I do not need), so that I could add them to my channel in time for the 50th anniversary?<br>
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Those extra "lost" clips would, indeed, make a great addition to my JFK archive--and right in time for November 22.<br>
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If you agree, you could probably easily fit the files in an e-mail attachment (since the length is not substantial).<br>
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Thanks for considering this proposal, and if you send the clips, I will (of course) provide a source credit in the video description--plus a link to your site too.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
David Von Pein<br>
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<b>E-Mail Subject: Re: Question About Your Lost NBC Footage<br>
Date: 11/20/2013 (9:30 AM EST)<br>
From: Phil Gries<br>
To: David Von Pein<br>
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Good Morning, David,<br>
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I agree to your proposal, but prior to emailing these files I would like to converse with you by phone. I could call you today at 10:45am EST. Please forward your phone number, and I will call you in approximately an hour.<br>
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Cordially,<br>
Phil Gries<br>
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<b>E-Mail Subject: MP3s Of Lost JFK Audio<br>
Date: 11/21/2013 (1:50 PM EST)<br>
From: Phil Gries<br>
To: David Von Pein<br>
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Dave,<br>
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It was a great pleasure discussing JFK related information with you this morning for almost two hours!<br>
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As discussed, enclosed, with my permission to use any/all of the files delivered to you, are additional JFK material to be evaluated and used at your discretion on your most ambitious and prodigious JFK internet multiple sites.<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
Phil<br>
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<b>E-Mail Subject: All Audio Files Received<br>
Date: 11/21/2013 (2:33 PM EST)<br>
From: David Von Pein<br>
To: Phil Gries<br>
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Hi Phil,<br>
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Just wanted to let you know via this e-mail that I received all of the audio files you sent in your 2 e-mails today.<br>
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Thank you so much for allowing me to use these historic and rare clips on my websites. I know a lot of people who visit my sites will enjoy them.<br>
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Feel free to write at any time. And let me know if you ever find more rare JFK audio or video. And I'll let you know if I ever find the "Bachelor Father" episode. I've already done a Google search for it today--and came up empty. But, who knows, maybe one day it'll turn up.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
David V.P.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PATRICK McDONALD:</span></b><br>
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<b>You do occasionally update the page with new material. What has been one of your latest and greatest finds in association with the assassination broadcasts and what was the circumstance of unearthing it?</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN:</span></b><br>
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Well, let me think for a minute. ....<br>
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I guess I'd have to say it's the "new and improved" version of the 11/22/63 <br>NBC-TV coverage in the last link I just provided in my last answer above. That "improved" coverage has much higher quality video resolution than my previous online versions of the same material. I acquired that enhanced version of the NBC material from an anonymous individual on Facebook in November of 2015. He was kind enough to send me the video through a file-sharing service at no cost at all.<br>
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The picture quality he was able to extract for his finished Nov. 22 video is quite good, especially since he told me he had merely used two different <i>VHS tape</i> sources to work with to do his enhancements. I have no idea how he achieved the excellent PQ he ultimately produced, with only old VHS tapes to work with. But I thank him for it (whoever he is).<br>
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To see several screen captures from the enhanced version of the NBC-TV coverage, click the logo below:<br>
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<a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/12/kennedy-gallery-274.html"><img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/TKh7YrUI10I/AAAAAAAAFbQ/KCURBFMQadA/s530/XX.+Kennedy+Photos+Blog+Logo.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PATRICK McDONALD:</span></b><br>
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<b>What in the hours of broadcasting, both on TV and radio, do you think are the weirdest moments, either in an on-air gaffe or unnecessary over-editorializing in the midst of the assassination and related events?</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN:</span></b><br>
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There are several odd gaffes by the media that occurred during the weekend of the assassination. I discuss many of them at my webpage below:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PATRICK McDONALD:</span></b><br>
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<b>I was born in 1960, you were born in 1961. Given we were toddlers when the assassination took place, how do you think it affected our generation as an event in the background of our subsequent lives?</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN:</span></b><br>
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I wish I had my crystal ball with me, so I could find out how the majority of people would answer your last question. But as for me personally, I'd have to say that it has affected my life perhaps quite a bit more than most other people, simply due to the fact that I have immersed myself deeply in the subjects of John F. Kennedy and his assassination for much of the last 20+ years.<br>
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But for most people of our generation (those born in the early 1960s), I doubt that JFK's assassination has really had a huge impact upon their lives.<br>
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But for the <i>previous</i> generation (people born in the 1940s and 1950s), I have heard that President Kennedy's death affected them much more profoundly, due to the fact that they can actually remember a time when JFK was alive and was President of the United States.<br>
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And, of course, most of those people can also vividly remember exactly where they were and what they were doing when they heard the awful news on November 22, 1963. It affected many of them very deeply, as they felt they had actually lost someone very close to them personally. You and I, Patrick, don't have such memories. And maybe it's for the best that we don't. It spares us the burden of dealing with the tragic memories of that terrible Friday in Dallas.<br>
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Thank you very much, Patrick, for your thought-provoking questions. I've enjoyed answering them.<br>
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Best regards,<br>
David Von Pein<br>
November 20, 2021<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Part 1374 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>March 1—31, 2024</b>. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29771-those-front-steps/?do=findComment&comment=529755">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The GIF clip below shows that Officer Baker was certainly moving toward the curb, with his shadow "climbing the curb" (so to speak). And this "curb-climbing shadow" fact is occurring directly in front of the steps to the Depository, which is perfectly consistent with Baker's never-wavering claim that he went straight from his motorcycle to the front entrance of the TSBD.<br>
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I can't recall who created this clip, so I don't know who inserted all the colored lines on it. But it wasn't me. Click to enlarge:<br>
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<b>Related Discussion From April 2016 ----></b> <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1123.html">Click Here</a></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29771-those-front-steps/?do=findComment&comment=529758">March 1, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30207-did-ruth-paine-lie-to-authorities/?do=findComment&comment=529760">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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<i>"Any reasonable person can obviously see how utterly impossible it is to "connect" all of these unconnected threads of SHEER HAPPENSTANCE regarding [Ruth] Paine, [Roy] Truly, [Wesley] Frazier, and [Linnie Mae] Randle in order to weave the magical type of "Oswald Was Planted In The TSBD" plot that conspiracists imagine took place. But just because nobody has yet been able to come close to weaving that magic carpet of conspiracy involving all of those innocent people (like Frazier, Paine, and Truly), it won't stop conspiracy theorists from pretending that a massive pre-assassination "plot" involving those very people really did occur in 1963."</i> <b>-- David Von Pein; July 1, 2008</b><br>
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More <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/was-oswald-planted-in-tsbd.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30207-did-ruth-paine-lie-to-authorities/?do=findComment&comment=529761">March 1, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30243-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy-the-final-analysis-forensic-analysis-of-the-jfk-autopsy-x-rays-proves-two-headshots-from-the-right-front-and-one-from-the-rear/?do=findComment&comment=530643">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Good Lord, what a bunch of malarkey! (And <b>TWO</b> make-believe frontal head shots yet! Geesh. What a fantasy tale.)<br>
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Now, back to reality.....<br>
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<span style="font-size:129%;"><i>"Clearly, from the autopsy X-rays and photographs and the observations of the autopsy surgeons, the exit wound and defect was not in the occipital area. There was no defect or wound to the rear of Kennedy's head other than the entrance wound in the upper right part of the head."</i></span> <span style="font-size:129%;"><b>-- Dr. Michael Baden; January 8, 2000</b></span><br>
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<span style="font-size:129%;"><i>"It is the firm conclusion of the [HSCA FPP] panel members...that beyond all reasonable medical certainty, there is no bullet perforation of entrance any place on the skull [of President Kennedy] other than the single one in the cowlick...and we find no evidence to support anything but a single gunshot wound of entrance in the back of the President's head."</i></span> <span style="font-size:129%;"><b><span style="font-size: large;">-- Dr. Michael Baden; 1978</b></span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30243-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy-the-final-analysis-forensic-analysis-of-the-jfk-autopsy-x-rays-proves-two-headshots-from-the-right-front-and-one-from-the-rear/?do=findComment&comment=530663">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But it's not <b>just</b> Baden. It's the entire 9-person Forensic Pathology Panel which came to this conclusion unanimously:<br>
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<i>"It is the firm conclusion of the panel members...that beyond all reasonable medical certainty, there is no bullet perforation of entrance any place on the skull other than the single one in the cowlick...and we find no evidence to support anything but a single gunshot wound of entrance in the back of the President's head."</i> <b>-- Dr. Michael Baden; 1978</b><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Part 1373 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>February 1—29, 2024</b>. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Excerpt from Vincent Bugliosi's book <i>"Reclaiming History"</i>:<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=527461">February 1, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">AARON SHARPE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30120-so-is-david-liftons-final-charade-just-going-to-be-lost-to-history/?do=findComment&comment=527514">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Oh my goodness! <i>Education Forum</i> member Aaron Sharpe thinks a theory which has JFK's body being stolen off of Air Force One and his wounds secretly altered prior to the 8:00 PM Bethesda autopsy has been <i><b>"more than fully validated"</i></b>.<br>
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Reprise: <i>Oh my goodness!!</i><br>
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How could anyone possibly believe such a thing?<br>
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I think rather than asking <i>"Did it Happen?"</i> or <i>"How did it happen?"</i>, a much better question to ask when it comes to David S. Lifton's body-alteration theory would be this one:<br>
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<i><b><span style="font-size:123%;">Given all of the obvious roadblocks and complications involved in such a covert chore, is it even remotely possible that it COULD have happened?</span></i></b><br>
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And I think the answer to that last question is a most resounding and definitive <b>"No"</b> (as discussed in detail at the link below).<br>
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In other words, <i>what once seemed crazy....is still very very crazy</i> (not to mention impossible).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GARY MURR SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30120-so-is-david-liftons-final-charade-just-going-to-be-lost-to-history/?do=findComment&comment=527599">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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According to David Lifton's hilariously absurd theory centering on the activity of the Secret Service agents in the immediate aftermath of the assassination (which is discussed by Lifton in the 2013 video embedded below), SS agent John Ready <i>"threw himself"</i> into the Presidential limousine after the shooting, and (according to Lifton) it is Ready's foot we see sticking out of the back seat of the car in the <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgVJoLFE-Z1xV0zELMcEU6Kz3m6rEHyOP2D8BjuurMowAj4sl612RWw_qLVEyh_zUYvNIHparOAJuCMMvq_7rBZZipXCgZ0Z-xPPsIMn9WXX5yLUpHY-dovaUH-D8BmkdNv5zdvQnlhyQggLGHOh-xHohiHZumFYOObh54d6_yfe7uf3oscwewlQtsa/s2000/Miller-Photo.jpg">David Miller photograph</a></b>.<br>
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Quoting Lifton in 2013: <i><b>"He [John Connally] got shot as a result of this fight in the car [with Secret Service agent John Ready]."</i></b><br>
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So now we know how David Lifton managed to keep John Connally from sustaining any wounds from the <i>rear</i> during the period when the assassination of JFK was taking place on Elm Street. He (Lifton) merely invented this fantasy story about Secret Service agent John Ready leaping into the limousine and shooting Connally. And then John Connally, in all of his many post-1963 interviews, decided to never once mention this "fight" that he had with Ready.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GARY MURR SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30120-so-is-david-liftons-final-charade-just-going-to-be-lost-to-history/?do=findComment&comment=527625">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I can, indeed, understand why you [Gary Murr] wouldn't want to be dragged into David Lifton's increasingly bizarre "charade" (as you put it).<br>
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It would be nice, though, if Mr. Lifton's <i>"Final Charade"</i> book could somehow manage to get published (if the full manuscript still survives, that is). I would enjoy reading about all of the many additional fantasy theories that David L. had talked himself into believing during the last 40 years of his life.<br>
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Many of those outer-fringe fantasies are revealed by David Lifton himself in <br><b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0O5WNzrZqINyzkmcG_mxtCdItyQLe93E">this 14-part, 3-hour-long video series</a></b> which he made in late 2013. But I'm guessing that during the 9 years between 2013 and the time of his death in December of 2022, Mr. Lifton very likely was able to concoct at least a <i>few</i> more outlandish episodes concerning the events of 11/22/63. Perhaps, say, a new baseless theory about how Officer Tippit died on Tenth Street. Lifton, after all, did not believe that Lee Oswald committed that murder either (see the very end of <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz0OPNwlybg">Part 10</a></b> of Lifton's video series).<br>
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So maybe Lifton can pretend that Domingo Benavides pulled a gun out of his truck on 10th Street and shot Tippit; or—just possibly—Lifton can get Helen Markham to play the part of Tippit's killer. Because, after all, with David S. Lifton in control of the fiction that he puts down on the pages of his fantasy books, just about anything is likely to happen, and just about <i>anybody</i> can be a suspect in the murders that took place in Dallas on November 22, 1963.<br>
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Hey, if Secret Service agent John Ready can be the person who shot Connally, why couldn't waitress Helen Markham be a cop killer?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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BTW / FWIW....<br>
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Concerning the question of whether or not David Lifton's long-awaited book <i>"Final Charade"</i> will ever be published:<br>
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I noticed the following comment attached to one of the videos on the "David Lifton On JFK" YouTube channel. The person who replied (@davidliftononjfk2724) apparently was doing so on behalf of Lifton and his YouTube channel. That person was certainly logged-in to Lifton's YouTube channel at any rate. So, maybe <i>Final Charade</i> will end up seeing the light of day after all.<br>
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I captured this image on February 3rd, 2024:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30120-so-is-david-liftons-final-charade-just-going-to-be-lost-to-history/?do=findComment&comment=527639">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yes, Jim, that's about the size of it (according to Mr. Lifton).<br>
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I'm not really sure, though, what difference it makes whether Connally was shot from the "front" or the "rear" in Lifton's fantasy version of that shooting. The "front vs. rear" trajectory thing seems kind of moot and totally unimportant via a scenario which is supposedly taking place only <i>after</i> the car has already left Dealey Plaza.<br>
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But the <i>"Ready Shot Connally"</i> fairy tale was obviously invented by Lifton sometime after he had decided he had to find a way to keep both limo victims from being hit by shots fired from the TSBD. And he had to do that because he had already decided that Oswald was merely firing "blanks" at JFK's car from the Depository. (See Part 10 of Lifton's video series to enjoy the full thrust of Mr. Lifton's "Oswald Fired Blanks" make-believe fantasy.)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">FRANCOIS CARLIER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30120-so-is-david-liftons-final-charade-just-going-to-be-lost-to-history/?do=findComment&comment=527652">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Re: Lifton's book....<br>
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I too have heard that Lifton's book manuscript was "lost" in a computer hard drive crash. But I find it very hard to believe that Mr. Lifton would have had his manuscript stored in only <i>one</i> location. His <i>"Final Charade"</i> project was obviously extraordinarily valuable to him personally, which would mean (I would think) that he would certainly have wanted to have at least one back-up copy stored somewhere in his digital files. (And probably more than one back-up. I currently have everything on my computer backed up on two different external hard drives---just in case.)<br>
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It's hard for me to believe that someone as meticulous with his written posts as David Lifton would have been so careless as to rely on merely one digital source for his very precious <i>"Final Charade"</i> material.<br>
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I'm guessing there are some "back ups" to be found---somewhere.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">AARON SHARPE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30120-so-is-david-liftons-final-charade-just-going-to-be-lost-to-history/?do=findComment&comment=527660">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yes, but it's not an altogether unheard of thing to have a major book release being delayed for a number of years. The same thing happened to Vince Bugliosi, whose very large JFK book, then titled <i>"Final Verdict"</i>, was originally scheduled to appear in book stores on November 22, 1998 (and at that time it was a "mere" 992 pages long; <b><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/tDw1ESGChGQ/m/OU9wvBRa5jkJ">CLICK HERE</a></b>). But it took another 9 years for the book, which more than doubled in size, to finally appear as <i>"Reclaiming History"</i>.<br>
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So a 10- or 15-year delay in publishing a huge JFK tome like David Lifton's last book doesn't surprise me at all.<br>
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<b><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/fLuJOeQTLMg/m/Af_zg8sNr_UJ">Here's a 2010 Usenet Forum post</a></b> by Francois Carlier which says that Lifton's <i>"Final Charade"</i> was supposed to be published in June of 2007, which would have been just one month after Bugliosi's JFK book came out.<br>
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So David was working on that book for quite a long time. And by 2022, the number of pages it encompassed surely must have reached well into four digits, probably rivaling Bugliosi's final page count of <b><a href="http://reclaiminghistory.blogspot.com">2,824</a></b> (which includes all of the endnotes and the 32 pages of photographs).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CLIFF VARNELL SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30120-so-is-david-liftons-final-charade-just-going-to-be-lost-to-history/?do=findComment&comment=528118">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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There was no "throat shot" at all, of course. Because if there had been such a shot, at least one bullet (and probably two) would have been plucked from JFK's body at the autopsy. But no whole bullets were found in his body.<br>
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The "throat shot" is (and always has been) a fantasy invented by conspiracy theorists.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30120-so-is-david-liftons-final-charade-just-going-to-be-lost-to-history/?do=findComment&comment=527520">February 2-9, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ROBERT MORROW SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=527753">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=527759">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Why on Earth can't it be a "real description" of the sixth-floor assassin??? <i>Of course</i> it was a "real description" of the assassin.<br>
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Here's a discussion I had with a couple of conspiracy believers in 2015 concerning this same (general) topic....<br>
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One of the many things that conspiracy theorists will <b>always</b> refuse to evaluate properly is the fact that Howard Brennan provided a description of the 6th-floor assassin on <b>Day 1</b> (November 22) in <b><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jTmnYgFvqzM/Tvw3vTpzhsI/AAAAAAAABuI/QJ__Z34iHho/s1200-h/Howard-Brennan-Affidavit.gif">his affidavit</a></b> that generally fits Lee Oswald. <br />
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Even the age of the assassin Brennan saw fits perfectly with Marrion Baker's <b>incorrect estimate</b> of Lee Oswald's age -- about 30 -- which we know <b>is</b> wrong, but we also know that the man Baker described as being <i>"approximately 30 years old"</i> <b>WAS</b> Lee Harvey Oswald and not somebody who could have merely been <b>confused</b> with Oswald.<br />
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And then there are the "weight" estimates provided by Brennan and Baker in their individual affidavits, which also (just like the "age" estimate) blend together perfectly:<br />
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Baker said -- <b>"165 pounds"</b>.<br />
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Brennan said -- <b>"165 to 175 pounds"</b>.<br />
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And, just like Baker's estimate for Oswald's age, the weight estimate he provided in <b><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4oxRP0t5ZBM/Tvw52B7FIGI/AAAAAAAABwU/QbBHYHhIM4Q/s1200-h/Marrion-Baker-Affidavit.gif">his affidavit</a></b> is wrong, but we still <b>know</b> that Baker was estimating the weight of the real Lee Harvey Oswald when he wrote down "165 pounds" in his 11/22/63 affidavit. <br />
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Ergo, we know that it is, indeed, possible for a person to look right at Lee Harvey Oswald on November 22, 1963, and think he weighed as much as 165 pounds. Shouldn't this fact mean just a <i>little</i> something to CTers when they attempt to assess whether or not Howard Brennan could have possibly seen Oswald in the Sniper's Nest on that same day?<br />
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Do CTers think that Baker and Brennan got together and swapped information so that their affidavits would merge perfectly with respect to <b>both</b> the "age" and "weight" estimates?<br />
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<b>A CONSPIRACY THEORIST KNOWN AS "NICKNAME" SAID:</b><br />
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Brennan's testimony does your case no good, unfortunately. He recalls seeing "a white man, early 30's, slender, weight about 165 to 175 pounds." As if that description doesn't fit 40 million people. Add that he was 120 feet away, staring at a figure six stories up. Could you positively ID someone from that distance? And even if it was Oswald he saw, that only proves that Oswald was ONE OF the shooters, not the only shooter.<br />
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Read my last post again, and place Brennan's 11/22 affidavit alongside Baker's 11/22 affidavit. Can't you see the similarities?<br />
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And, as I said, we know for an absolute irrefutable fact that Marrion Baker was describing <b>Lee Harvey Oswald</b> in that affidavit and nobody else on Earth. And yet he made the same <b>TWO</b> incorrect estimates that Howard Brennan also made -- age and weight.<br />
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And you surely aren't going to pull a DiEugenio on me and claim something silly like this (are you?)....<br />
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<i>"Baker never saw Oswald. .... I believe the [Oswald/Baker/Truly] incident was created after the fact."</i> -- James DiEugenio; <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-101.html#Whole-Cloth">July 13-14, 2015</a><br />
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<b>GARRY PUFFER SAID:</b><br />
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A guy who weighs 141 pounds would never be said to weigh 165.<br />
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Tell that to Marrion L. Baker of the Dallas Police Department, Garry....<br />
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<i><b>"The man I saw was a white man approximately 30 years old, 5'9", 165 pounds."</i></b> -- M.L. Baker; November 22, 1963<br />
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Let me guess, Garry --- Marrion Baker wasn't really describing the real Lee Harvey Oswald when he said the man he stopped at gunpoint in the Depository's second-floor lunchroom weighed <b>"165 pounds"</b>, right? You think Baker was either lying or he was describing somebody besides Oswald (despite the fact Roy Truly, who was right there in the lunchroom with Baker during the encounter, confirmed it was Lee Oswald). Right?<br />
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Let's hear the CTers' lame, rip-roaring, half-baked excuse for totally dismissing these words written by Roy Truly on 11/23/63:<br />
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<i><b>"The officer and I went through the shipping department to the freight elevator. We then started up the stairway. We hit the second floor landing, the officer stuck his head into the lunch room area where there are Coke and candy machines. Lee Oswald was in there. The officer had his gun on Oswald and asked me if he was an employee. I answered yes."</i></b> -- Roy S. Truly; <a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-djogMaF_-g0/Tvw-eAI5W5I/AAAAAAAABxg/hFmp8gCMmRo/s1500-h/Roy-Truly-Affidavit.gif">November 23, 1963</a><br />
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<b>HANK SIENZANT SAID:</b><br />
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Great post, David.<br />
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Thanks, Hank.<br />
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I like to keep this <b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1000.html">"Assassination Arguments Part 1000"</a></i></b> page handy whenever somebody tells me that it would have been <b><i>utterly impossible</i></b> for any witness to think Lee Oswald weighed as much as 165 pounds.<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=527774">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yes....it was coincidence. Without doubt (IMO).<br>
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It's a coincidence brought about by Howard Brennan's description of the assassin that he gave to the police (probably to J. Herbert Sawyer).<br>
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But maybe Bob Morrow thinks that Brennan was in cahoots with Marguerite on the <b>"5-feet-10, 165 pounds"</b> thing. After all, anything's possible in the bizarre conspiracy-flavored world inhabited by many CTers. 😛 <br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ROBERT MORROW SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=527775">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Typical CTer mindset.<br>
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IOW -- <i>The More Liars, The Better</i>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=527779">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Some of my thoughts on the "Brennan/Sawyer" matter can be found <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/howard-brennan.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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And here are some excerpts from Vincent Bugliosi's book pertaining to Brennan and Sawyer (click to enlarge)....<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=527768">February 5, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30173-our-lady-of-the-warren-commission-ruth-paine-by-johnny-cairns/?do=findComment&comment=528802">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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In order to keep the idea of a nonexistent conspiracy alive in the Walker and JFK shootings, James DiEugenio, as usual, will ignore the obvious and clear answers to the questions he posed above.<br>
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IOW --- Different day....same old worn-out CTer crap. Yawn.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30173-our-lady-of-the-warren-commission-ruth-paine-by-johnny-cairns/?do=findComment&comment=528973">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Oh, how right you are with the above remarks, Greg. It's nice to know that are at least a few conspiracy believers who haven't fallen for the absurd and preposterous <i>"Ruth Paine Was A Conspirator"</i> claptrap. I applaud your comments in this thread, Gregory Doudna.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30173-our-lady-of-the-warren-commission-ruth-paine-by-johnny-cairns/?do=findComment&comment=528803">February 19-21, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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It's more than sixty years later, and yet this headline from page 2 of the December 1, 1963, edition of my hometown newspaper is still as valid and correct as it was back in 1963 (despite the opinions of the many conspiracy theorists who believe otherwise) —— <i><b>"Evidence Does Not Support Theory <br>Of Oswald Conspiracy"</i></b> (click to enlarge)....<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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A section of the above 12/1/63 Associated Press newspaper article that I found particularly interesting is the excerpt pictured below, which reveals the results of some rapid-fire rifle tests performed in Los Angeles that closely match the Carcano rifle firing tests that were done by the HSCA more than a decade later in 1978:<br>
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<i><b><span style="font-size: large;">"The [House Select] Committee test fired a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle using the open iron sights. It found that it was possible for two shots to be fired within 1.66 seconds."</i></b></span> <span style="font-size: large;"><b>-- <a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/report/html/HSCA_Report_0057a.htm">HSCA Final Report; Page 83</a></b></span><br>
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Which means, via the HSCA tests, that three shots could be fired in a total time span of just 3.3 seconds.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30174-evidence-does-not-support-theory-of-oswald-conspiracy/?do=findComment&comment=528822">February 19, 2024</a><br>
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-50802343926893138252024-01-01T01:24:00.000-08:002024-01-26T11:47:21.248-08:00 JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS (PART 1372) <br><base target="_blank">
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Part 1372 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>January 1—31, 2024</b>. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1371.html#Victoria-Adams">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30023-vickie-adams-interview/?do=findComment&comment=524673">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The big question I have now regarding Victoria E. Adams is:<br>
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Why on Earth would she have told author Barry Ernest (in the early 2000s, was it?) that she had definitely <i>not</i> seen Shelley & Lovelady just after she got to the first floor of the TSBD on 11/22/63?<br>
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Prior to her interviews with Ernest, had her memory of events been so diminished that she had actually thought the Warren Commission had <i><b>added things</i></b> to her sworn testimony? I suppose the "fading memory" explanation is always a possibility to consider. (Victoria passed away in November 2007. She was 66.)<br>
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Also, I'm wondering what Barry Ernest's opinion was/is of Victoria's "mental state" when he interviewed her? Did her memory of the events seem clear and vivid? Or was it somewhat shaky and murky? (I'm just wondering.)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARCUS FULLER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30023-vickie-adams-interview/?do=findComment&comment=524751">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Why wasn't the "real assassin" seen by anybody coming down those same back stairs?<br>
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I guess you think the real killer(s) must have just stayed up on the <i>Floor Of Death</i> for several extra minutes, running the great risk of being caught right there on the sixth floor. Is that it?<br>
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[<b>DVP NOTE --</b> I received nothing but dead silence in response to my above inquiry.]<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Sandra Styles was, of course, with Victoria Adams when they went down the back stairs of the Book Depository shortly after the assassination on 11/22/63. Styles was not called to testify in front of the Warren Commission, but she did talk at some length with assassination researcher Sean Murphy in 2008. Here's what she told Murphy at that time:<br>
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[Quoting Sandra Styles:]<br>
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<span style="font-size:115%;"><b>“</b><i>I watched the motorcade from a south-facing window on the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. With me was one of my Scott Foresman colleagues, Victoria Adams (who sadly passed away last year). When the shooting took place, we were not even aware at first that it was a shooting. It sounded like fireworks. President Kennedy was obscured from our view at the critical moments by tree foliage. All I could make out in those moments was the pink of Mrs. Kennedy's suit.<br>
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Contrary to what Vickie [Adams] told the Warren Commission, she and I did <b>NOT</b> go to the rear stairs within a minute or so of the shooting. First, we lingered by the window for quite some time, trying to determine what was going on outside. Things were very confused. Next, we made an attempt to take the front-of-building elevator downstairs. For some reason, however, this elevator—which, unlike the rear elevator, went only as high as the fourth floor—did not come when we called it. It was only after trying to call the elevator that we thought of going towards the rear stairs. And even then we did not proceed very quickly — we were wearing high-heel shoes!<br>
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While we were still in the office area, our view of the rear stairs was blocked by partitions. Anyone could have come down those stairs without us knowing about it. All this time we had absolutely no idea that shots might have come from the Depository building. As a result, I was paying very little attention to what was going on inside the building in those first few minutes after the assassination.<br>
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If the Warren Report estimated that Vickie and I reached the first floor via the rear stairs some 4 or 5 minutes after the shooting, then I'd have to say that sounds a little conservative. If anything, it was probably longer. I have no clear recollection of seeing Bill Shelley or Billy Lovelady (both of whom I had a passing acquaintance with) near the rear of the building when we reached the first floor. I have a vague recollection of seeing them at some point around the front entrance. But it's perfectly possible we did see them where Vickie said we did—near the freight elevator. I really wasn't paying much attention to people IN the building. I thought all the action was outside.<br>
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It always puzzled me how Vickie seemed to exaggerate the speed with which we went to the rear stairway. Although I was fond of her, I
guess she was what you might call a 'person of drama'. I found the version of events she told people somewhat sensationalistic and at
odds with my own memory of those minutes. I simply stated what I recalled, but I didn't contradict her because I felt I couldn't say
what she saw or didn't see; just because I didn't recall it the same way did not mean she was in error necessarily. I am not that noble a person that I would not have contradicted her to the interviewers had it been necessary.<br>
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Why was Vickie the only one called to testify before the Warren Commission? I don't know. My recollection has always been that I WAS interrogated by a representative from the Warren Commission very briefly in our office, but there was no follow-up, whereas she was
questioned more than once. I have wondered whether it might have been that her testimony required more investigation and mine was more
plausible or I was less positive in my recollections than she.<br>
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Vickie was a very friendly and gregarious person, while I am more reserved and less outgoing. She may have exaggerated some points,
while I was cautious about what I said, not wanting to mislead. In some instances, her version might be more accurate.<b>”</b></i></span><br>
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<b>-- Sandra Styles; July 2008</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30023-vickie-adams-interview/?do=findComment&comment=525040">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yes, Greg, I agree. Plus, there's the fact that that front elevator is much closer to the place where Adams and Styles were watching the motorcade from (as we can see when looking at the floor plan for the fourth floor). So it makes perfect sense that they would have <i>first</i> tried to go down in the more-convenient front elevator rather than clomp down the rickety stairs while wearing high heels.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30023-vickie-adams-interview/?do=findComment&comment=525073">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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I'm just wondering, though, if Lovelady had actually <b>SEEN</b> (with his own eyes) Truly & Baker going to the stairs....or if (just perhaps) he was telling the HSCA in 1978 something he knew had happened but hadn't actually seen himself???<br>
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Because it would certainly seem as though the things Lovelady & Shelley said they did after the shooting would consume a minimum of at least a couple of minutes before they re-entered the building, which would mean Lovelady couldn't possibly have actually <i>seen</i> Baker & Truly on the 1st floor, because we know B&T were in the lunchroom with Oswald within about 90 seconds of the last shot.<br>
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But, boy!, trying to fit everybody's "timing" issues into a workable theory sure does cause headaches, doesn't it? Because there's <i>always</i> going to be some piece of the "timing" puzzle that doesn't quite fit.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30023-vickie-adams-interview/?do=findComment&comment=525560">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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So you think <b>BAKER</b> lied. And you think <b>TRULY</b> lied. And you think <b>FRITZ</b> lied when he said that Oswald <i>himself</i> said he encountered the policeman on the second floor. And you think <b>BOOKHOUT</b> lied when he said (on Page 619 of the Warren Report) that Oswald admitted that the 2nd-floor encounter did occur.<br>
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When you need to accuse so many people of telling blatant lies, it should send up a red flag to all reasonable researchers.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JIM HARGROVE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30038-dpd-dispatcher-alterations-and-tippit-murder/?do=findComment&comment=524820">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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We can argue forever about the exact time that Officer Tippit was shot. There will always be disagreement amongst LNers and CTers concerning that point. But it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference precisely <i>when</i> Tippit was shot, because regardless of what the exact time was, we <b>KNOW</b> (or at least I do) that Tippit's murderer was positively (and beyond <i>all</i> possible doubt) Lee Harvey Oswald.<br>
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And we can know this for a fact not only due to the many witnesses who positively identified Oswald as either Tippit's <i>one and only</i> killer or as the <i>one and only gunman</i> who fled the scene of the crime....but also due to the even-more-definitive ballistics evidence that Oswald was kind enough to leave behind at the scene of the murder---which consisted of those four bullet shell casings that positively came from the same gun that was used to kill Officer Tippit, which was also the same gun that Oswald still had in his very own hands just 35 minutes after Tippit was slain.<br>
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Yes, virtually all CTers will argue that those bullet shells were faked or planted or switched to incriminate the resident "patsy", but when asked what <b>proof</b> the conspiracy theorists possess to support such an extraordinary and vile allegation, the silence becomes overwhelming. In short, no such evidence exists and every reasonable person knows it.<br>
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And therefore....<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ROBERT BURROWS SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30038-dpd-dispatcher-alterations-and-tippit-murder/?do=findComment&comment=525243">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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My, what a convenient and handy cop-out for conspiracy theorists to use, year after year --- <i><b>"We don't know any facts"</i></b>.<br>
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In other words, Robert Burrows must believe that virtually everybody in Officialdom was on a mission to frame Lee H. Oswald in November of 1963 (and for many months afterward too).<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">KEVEN HOFELING SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=524943">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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In addition to his appearance in 1988's <i>"The Men Who Killed Kennedy"</i>, Dr. Robert McClelland also performed a "hand-on-his-head" demonstration for the PBS-TV camera in another 1988 television program, <b><i><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/03/who-shot-president-kennedy-1988-nova.html">"Who Shot President Kennedy?"</a></i></b>, hosted by Walter Cronkite.<br>
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In that PBS program, Dr. McClelland twice put his right hand over the upper-right portion of the back of his head to indicate where he said the large wound was located in President Kennedy's head (see the screen captures below).<br>
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The late Doctor Robert McClelland, in my opinion, had some very strange beliefs concerning JFK's head wounds and what he was seeing when he viewed the autopsy photographs at the National Archives for that PBS/NOVA program in 1988, which I discuss <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/parkland-doctors-on-pbs-tv-in-1988.html">HERE</a></b> and <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/head-wounds.html#McClelland">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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Here's an excerpt from Vince Bugliosi's book concerning Dr. McClelland:<br>
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<span style="font-size:115%;"><b>“</b>When I spoke over the telephone to Dr. McClelland in late September and early October of 2002, McClelland, a respected Dallas surgeon whom no one accuses of trying to deliberately mislead anyone, only of being completely wrong in what he thought he saw (the most honest people in the world can think they saw the darndest things), said he was positive the president had a <b><i>"massive hole to the back of his head."</i></b> <br />
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He said at the time of his observation he was holding a metal retractor that was pulling the skin away from the president's trachea so Drs. Perry and Carrico could perform their tracheotomy. <i><b>"I had nothing else to do or to distract me so I fixated on this large, gaping hole to the back of the president's head for ten to twelve minutes."</i></b><br />
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When I wondered how he could see the large hole when the president was always lying on his back, he said the wound was so large that he nevertheless could see <i><b>"most of it."</i></b> If what he said was true, I asked, how is it possible that on the Zapruder film itself, the explosion is clearly to the right frontal portion of the president's head with a large amount of brain matter spraying out, and the back of his head appears to be completely intact? <br />
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Dr. McClelland gave an answer that deserves some type of an award for inventiveness: <i><b>"What the explanation for this is, I just don't know, but what I believe happened is that the spray of brain matter and blood was kind of like a bloodscreen, similar to a smokescreen, that precluded a clear view of the occipital area."</i></b><br />
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If, I pursued the matter, the exit wound was to the back of the president's head, where was the entrance wound for this bullet? McClelland, who believes the shot to the head came from the grassy knoll, said he believed the president was struck <i><b>"around the hairline near the middle of his forehead."</i></b><br />
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If that was so, I asked, how was it that seventeen pathologists, including <a href="http://Bugliosi-Vs-Wecht.blogspot.com">Dr. Wecht</a>, all agreed that the president was only struck twice, both times from the rear, and none of them—from photographs, X-rays, and personal observation (by the three autopsy surgeons)—saw any entrance wound to the president's forehead? <br />
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Again, McClelland, who acknowledged, <i><b>"I'm not a pathologist and I've never conducted an autopsy,"</i></b> said, <i><b>"I don't know the answer to your question."</i></b> But he remained sincerely inventive in his imagination. <i><b>"What I believe happened is that none of the pathologists saw the entrance wound because it became a part of the destruction to the whole right side and top of the president's head. In other words, it was no longer a separate hole that could be identified."</i></b><br />
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(Of course, none of the autopsy photographs show any such massive injury to the president's forehead extending to the right side of his head, and none is referred to in the autopsy report, nor in the reports of the Clark Panel and Rockefeller Commission. As the HSCA said, <i>"There is no evidence that the president was struck by a bullet entering the front of his head."</i>)<br />
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<i>"So you do acknowledge,"</i> I said, <i>"the explosion to the right front part of the president's head?"</i> <i><b>"Oh, yes,"</i></b> the doctor said, <i><b>"but that's not where the bullet exited. It exited in the occipital region of his head, leaving a hole so big I could put my fist in it."</i></b><br />
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When I pointed out to the doctor again that not only didn't the Zapruder film show any large hole to the back of the president's head but autopsy photographs never showed any large hole there either, he said that although it was pure <i><b>"supposition"</i></b> on his part, at the time the photographs were taken, someone <i><b>"could have pulled a flap of the president's skin, attached to the base of his neck, forward,"</i></b> thereby covering the large defect. When I asked him if he saw any such loose flap of skin at Parkland, he acknowledged, <i><b>"I did not."</i></b><br />
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It was getting late in the evening, Dallas time, but before I ended the interview I reminded Dr. McClelland of the fact that in his Parkland Hospital admission note at 4:45 p.m. on the day of the assassination, he had written that the president died <i>"from a gunshot wound of the left temple."</i> <i><b>"Yes,"</i></b> he said, <i><b>"that was a mistake. I never saw any wound to the president's left temple. Dr. Jenkins had told me there was a wound there, though he later denied telling me this."</i></b> <br />
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Since there was no bullet wound to the left side of the president's body, and since the conspiracy theorists allege that Kennedy was shot from the grassy knoll to his right front, conspiracy author Robert Groden solves the problem and avoids having his star witness, Dr. McClelland, look very confused and non-credible simply by changing McClelland's words "left temple" to "right temple" in his book, <a href="http://The-Killing-Of-A-President.blogspot.com"><i>The Killing of a President</i></a>.<br />
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When I called Dr. McClelland the following evening to discuss further one of the points he had made, he quickly told me he was glad I had called because <i><b>"since we hung up last night, I've had some second thoughts about the exact location of the exit wound."</i></b> <br />
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Unlike the many conspiracy theorists who have exploited Dr. McClelland's obvious errors to their benefit, he told me, <i><b>"I don't question the integrity of all the pathologists who disagree with me"</i></b> (he wasn't so kind to his colleague, Dr. Charles Crenshaw: <i><b>"Chuck had a lot of problems and fabricated a lot of things"</i></b>), saying, for instance, that he and the three autopsy surgeons were <i><b>"obviously looking at the same head and the same wound,"</i></b> but that the area on the head where they placed the wound differed because of <i><b>"the different positions from which we viewed it and also because of the different interpretations of what we saw, which is normal."</i></b><br />
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But he made a major concession in an effort to reconcile his position with theirs. <i><b>"I have to say that the sketch I first drew for Josiah Thompson's book a few years after the assassination was misleading. Since last night, I've been thinking that I placed the large hole in the president's head farther back than it really was, maybe. It may have been a bit more forward."</i></b><br />
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When I asked him where he now put it, he said, <i><b>"Partially in the occipital region and partly in the right back part of the parietal bone"</i></b> (which I told him was actually consistent with the original position he took in his Warren Commission testimony), but he still insisted that this large exit wound was not to the right frontal area of the president's skull as concluded by all the pathologists. <br />
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Dr. McClelland told me he believes there were two gunmen, Oswald and someone else, and further believes that <i><b>"the CIA and FBI, mostly the CIA, were behind the conspiracy to kill Kennedy, and they brought in the Mafia, who carried out the killing."</i></b> <br />
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He said he didn't know but suspects that <i><b>"the Warren Commission covered up the conspiracy."</i></b> On that note, I thanked the good doctor for his time and bid him a good night.<b>”</b></span><br>
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<b>-- Vincent Bugliosi; Pages 405-407 of <i>"Reclaiming History"</i></b><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=525282">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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There is a <b>ZERO</b> per cent chance of the autopsy photos being fraudulent/fake/altered, as confirmed in <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0026a.htm">7 HSCA 41</a></b>, which is a page of the House Select Committee's volumes that nearly 100% of CTers will either totally ignore or they'll pretend that the entire Photographic Panel of the HSCA was filled with either all liars or an assortment of nothing but boneheads who didn't know what the hell they were talking about when they said none of the photos had been altered.<br>
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I wonder why so many conspiracy theorists on this planet think they know more about photo analysis and interpretation than the multiple <i>photo experts</i> who comprised the HSCA's Photographic Panel? That's a question I've never been able to answer.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=525290">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Sandy Larsen, in his post above, said that the HSCA was <i>"largely corrupt"</i>. And yet they concluded there <b>WAS</b> a conspiracy to murder President Kennedy.<br>
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So, according to Sandy, the HSCA was <i>both</i> <b>CORRUPT</b> and <b>TRUTHFUL</b> at the same time.<br>
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Doesn't that seem the slightest bit <i>odd</i>?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=525678">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I strongly disagree, Sandy. I agree totally with the things Pat Speer said in his post <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=525676">here</a></b>. And, just like Pat, I too am often accused of saying the Parkland doctors were "hallucinating". But I have never said anybody at Parkland suffered from hallucinations.<br>
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Most of the Parkland doctors were, however, unquestionably WRONG (i.e., mistaken) about the location of President Kennedy's large head wound, and the autopsy photos and X-rays provide the undeniable proof that those Parkland physicians were wrong, and as such they all (for some inexplicable reason) experienced a <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/boh.html">"Mass Mistaken Observation"</a></b> (for lack of a better phrase).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL GRIFFITH SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=525737">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Due to Jackie's handiwork of <i>"trying to hold his head on"</i> during the ride to Parkland, most of the witnesses probably didn't get to see the full WIDE-OPEN extent of the large head wound at the right-front of JFK's head.<br>
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They, instead, saw all the gore/blood/brains that was pooling at the RIGHT-REAR of JFK's head on the gurney. This led those witnesses to believe there was a large "wound" at the right-rear, when, in fact, no such "wound" was there at all (as proven by the autopsy pictures AND X-rays).<br>
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That's not exactly a perfectly satisfying explanation---even for me. And I'm sure all conspiracy believers think such an explanation is totally laughable, preposterous, and idiotic. But it's the best I can do. (And it's Dr. Michael Baden's best explanation as well -- <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/boh.html#Dr-Baden-And-The-Head-Wound">Click Here</a></b>.)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=525813">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But, IMO, the <i><b>"Blood Pooling At The Right-Rear Of The Head"</i></b> explanation, coupled with the known fact that Jackie Kennedy was busy in the limo <i><b>"Trying to hold his head on"</i></b> (which probably means she closed up the large flap on the right side of the head, which essentially masked all or most of the huge hole that Oswald's bullet created in the right-front of JFK's skull), are still much better explanations than the rather far-fetched and incredibly hard-to-believe <i><b>"All Of The Doctors (In Unison) Couldn't Tell The SIDE Of JFK's Head From The BACK Of His Head Simply Because The President Was Lying Flat On His Back"</i></b> explanation that author Jim Moore endorses in his 1990 book.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">KEVEN HOFELING SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=526734">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I have no idea why Keven Hofeling is blasting <i>me</i> on the McClelland "hands-on demonstrations" topic. McClelland's "demonstrations" have <b>ALWAYS</b> placed the large "blow out" wound at the <b>RIGHT-REAR</b> of JFK's head (with very little variation). So where's the disagreement there, Keven?<br>
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The disagreement comes, of course, when I point out the fact that Dr. McClelland was 100% wrong, as proven for all time by the HSCA-authenticated autopsy photos and X-rays, plus the Z-Film, which also proves that ALL of the witnesses who said there was a huge blow-out wound at the rear of Kennedy's head were dead wrong.<br>
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But CTers like Keven Hofeling will, evidently, continue to pretend that the autopsy photos <b>AND</b> the X-rays <b>AND</b> the Zapruder Film <b>AND</b> the autopsy report <b>AND</b> the testimony of all 3 autopsy surgeons are <b>ALL</b> (in <i>perfect tandem</i>) fake/phony/altered/manufactured.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">KEVEN HOFELING SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=526834">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Gee, talk about someone <i><b>not getting the point</i></b>. Keven Hofeling has earned that distinction with ease in this discussion.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30045-why-pat-speer-owes-the-family-of-dr-robert-mcclelland-an-apology/?do=findComment&comment=525024">January 4-25, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN DEIGNAN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29821-rob-reiner-and-soledad-obrien-aim-to-reveal-jfks-real-killers/?do=findComment&comment=525622">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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So, according to Rob Reiner in the 10th and final installment of his <i>"Who Killed JFK?"</i> podcast series (which can be heard <b><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2DgnYRv9fnbeQgCggbecgR">HERE</a></b>), the "real assassins" shoot up Dealey Plaza using <b>FIVE</b> gunmen located to the <i>front</i> and <i>rear</i> of JFK; and they are doing this while <i>also</i> attempting to frame just <b>ONE</b> lone "patsy" in the Book Depository.<br>
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Does that sound like a plan that's likely to succeed....or doomed to fail?<br>
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Also....<br>
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Is it even <i>remotely</i> likely that such a <b>FIVE-SHOOTER / ONE-PATSY</b> plot would have even been <i>considered</i> by any group(s) who was planning to kill the President <b>and</b> wanted to get away with it <b>and</b> wanted to pin the blame on just one lone killer in the Depository Building on 11/22/63?<br>
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Were the architects of such a loony, over-the-top plot <b>all</b> insane....or did they merely enjoy the challenge of doing things the (very!) hard way?<br>
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In short, such a pre-planned <b>"multi-gunmen with just one patsy"</b> assassination scheme, very similar in nature to <b><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160324184536/http://www.amazon.com/review/R1ZW3QU49S1AM1">Oliver Stone's absurd 3-Gun, 1-Patsy plot</a></b>, is just plain idiotic.<b>*</b><br>
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<b>*</b> Not to mention the fact that there's not one shred of physical evidence to indicate that more than just one assassin (located on the sixth floor of the TSBD) fired <i>any</i> shots at President Kennedy, let alone <b>five</b> gunmen. But I guess the <i>actual</i> evidence in the JFK murder case doesn't mean very much to Mr. Reiner.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">NICK BARTETZKO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29821-rob-reiner-and-soledad-obrien-aim-to-reveal-jfks-real-killers/?do=findComment&comment=525696">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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All of those things you [Nick B.] have listed are things that have, indeed, been explained in non-conspiratorial ways over the last 60 years. Most of those items (if not all) were covered in a pretty decent amount of depth, of course, in Vincent Bugliosi's 2007 tome. And many other Lone Assassin advocates, including myself, have tackled most of those things as well.<br>
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A very reasonable possibility for James Tague's injury, as a matter of fact, is provided right there in the Warren Report itself (on my all-time favorite WCR page, which nearly every conspiracy theorist continues to ignore on a daily basis---<b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0071a.htm">Page 117</a></b>). So the Warren Commission itself had, in effect, started debunking some of the pro-conspiracy nonsense before their final report ever went to press.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29821-rob-reiner-and-soledad-obrien-aim-to-reveal-jfks-real-killers/?do=findComment&comment=525667">January 10, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You [John Mytton] don't want or can't produce the actual evidence that Oswald was on the 6th floor of the TSBD when the shots were fired and went down the stairs within 75 seconds after the last shot.<br>
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Wow, how would that play out in court?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Martin, like all Internet conspiracy theorists, is not very good at simple math.....especially when it comes to <i>adding things up</i> concerning Lee Harvey Oswald and his movements and actions on November 22, 1963.<br>
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Martin, of course, <i>could</i> perform the 2nd-grade math if he really wanted to. But he doesn't want to. So, he'll just continue to pretend that Oswald's movements are impossible to figure out from the known evidence.<br>
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Such is the way with Internet conspiracy theorists/fantasists.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID:</span></b><br>
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All guys like you do, on a daily basis, is tell the same lies and misrepresentations hoping that some day they will actually become true.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I've never told any "lies" about the JFK case. (And an "opinion" that doesn't agree with your conspiracy-slanted version of events is not a "lie". I hope you'll keep that fact in mind if you ever decide to call me a liar again in the future.)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Btw, I just had a quick look at <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-timeline-part-1.html">part one of Oswald's time line</a></b> on your site, and found it filled with assumptions and speculation. Time after time you say things like "I believe", "It's possible", "I assume" and you make claims for which there is not a shred of evidence.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Well, since there was absolutely nobody else up there on the 6th floor when Oswald was doing the things that I think he did just before 12:30 on 11/22/63, then <b>OF COURSE</b> I've used terms like <i>"I believe"</i> and <i>"It's possible"</i> on my <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-timeline-part-1.html">Timeline Page</a></b>. Isn't that better than saying Oswald <i>"definitely did this"</i> or <i>"positively did that at exactly this time"</i>?<br>
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Since there are no 6th-floor witnesses to anything the assassin did, all I can possibly do is "assume" the things that "I believe" are most certainly "possible" regarding Oswald's exact actions and movements on the sixth floor on 11/22. It's either engaging in some guesswork or just forget about making up a "Timeline" at all. I chose the former option.<br>
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Obligatory ----> <i>Duh!!</i><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The whole saga of Oswald hiding in the sniper's nest when Bonnie Ray Williams was on the 6th floor is pure fiction.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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No, it's a reasonable inference (i.e., a good guess) as to where Oswald was located during the few minutes when Bonnie Ray was up there eating his chicken-on-the-bone sandwich lunch.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The truth is that you can't place Oswald on the 6th floor anywhere after a couple of minutes past 12 noon.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Wrong. I can place him in the Sniper's Nest shooting at JFK at exactly 12:30 --- via the witness all CTers love to hate, Howard L. Brennan.<br>
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But, like it or not, Brennan (in front of the Warren Commission) did positively I.D. Oswald as the assassin.<br>
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Plus: Via another "reasonable inference", I can place Oswald on the west side of the sixth floor, holding his Carcano rifle (another wholly "reasonable inference" there), at approximately 12:15 PM. Those reasonable inferences (guesses) come, of course, via the testimony of Arnold Rowland.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The story about Oswald going down the stairs is also a mere assumption for which there is no evidence.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Once again, it's a "reasonable inference" based on the evidence <b>AS A WHOLE</b>, which is telling any reasonable and sensible person looking at that <i>totality of evidence</i> that Lee Oswald (and his rifle) were, indeed, on the sixth floor shooting at the President at exactly 12:30 PM.<br>
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And since we have irrefutable proof (via Marrion Baker and Roy Truly) that Mr. Oswald was positively in the second-floor lunchroom (near the back stairway) within just two minutes or so after the President was shot by Oswald and his Carcano, then the <b>reasonable inference</b> to reach here is:<br>
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Lee Oswald <i>must</i> have utilized that back staircase between 12:30 PM and 12:32 PM CST on November 22nd. (And this inference/conclusion can easily still be reached regardless of the observations of Dorothy Garner, Victoria Adams, or anyone else. With the simple answer to the Garner/Adams/Styles controversy being: Adams and Styles beat everybody else to the stairs that day.)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID:</span></b><br>
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When you say that Adams and Styles beat everybody else to the stairs, meaning they were ahead of the killer, you must agree that Adams and Styles immediately left the 4th floor window after the last shot. Right? That means that the conclusion of the WC that Adams saw Shelley and Lovelady at the bottom of the stairs was wrong, as those men couldn't possibly have been there at that time. Do you agree?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The <i>"Adams & Styles Beat Everybody Else To The Stairs"</i> conclusion is probably <i>not</i> what happened, IMO. I offered it up in my previous post as merely a POSSIBLE solution to the controversy involving Adams, Styles, and Garner. But, like you said, that "possible" solution brings about other snags and problems---like the Lovelady/Shelley timing.<br>
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But we must always keep in mind when evaluating "timeline" type evidence and testimony that nobody on Nov. 22 had a stopwatch to provide any to-the-second exactitude relating to their movements. And that goes for everybody involved---from Adams to Garner to Shelley to Lovelady to Baker.<br>
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And although Baker's movements <i>were</i> timed in two re-creations done for the WC, we also must remember that Baker himself said that he probably took LONGER to do the things he did on Nov. 22 itself than he did in his reconstructions in March of '64. So that fact (alone) could affect the "timelines" of multiple people, and it could mean that (just perhaps) Adams & Styles didn't get to the stairs quite as fast as Adams says they did (even if they <b>DID</b> beat Truly & Baker to those same stairs).<br>
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Anyway, after evaluating all of the various "timeline" issues associated with the race down the back stairs, it's my own opinion that Adams & Styles were very likely on the stairs only <i>after</i> Truly and Baker had started up those same stairs.<br>
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And a possible scenario to account for Dorothy Garner's observations (which first came to light in the <b><a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DgHkPP8nF0I/VD3lVG1XpfI/AAAAAAABAQ4/crtxBPhrzeM/s1600/Stroud-Document.png">Stroud document</a></b>) would be that Adams & Styles were on the second-floor landing at the precise time when Truly, Baker, and Oswald were all in the lunchroom/vestibule, which would have placed all of those men in a location where they could not have been seen by Adams/Styles. Perhaps that scenario isn't very <i>likely</i>, but it's certainly not <i>impossible</i>. And, in fact, it's a scenario that is even mentioned as a possibility on <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0089b.htm">Page 154</a></b> of the Warren Report.<br>
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All of my thoughts on the <i>Adams/Styles/Garner Staircase Controversy</i> are archived at my site <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-743.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I really wish that David, or any other LN, could conclusively place Oswald on the 6th floor at 12:30 on 11/22/63 because that would close the book on the assassination of Kennedy. Unfortunately, all we get is assumptions disguised as "reasonable inference".<br>
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The problem with assumptions is that with enough of them you can find anybody guilty of anything. Is this really what the most important murder case of the century is coming down to?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Well, Martin, it sure would be ideal if I could offer up a photo or a film of Oswald shooting Kennedy. And it would be equally as handy if I could offer up a sixth-floor witness who happened to see Lee Oswald as he was pulling the trigger. But, unfortunately, Oswald got extremely lucky to have the entire sixth floor to himself for that brief period of time it took him to kill the President. So what else is there except a certain amount of "inference" and "guesswork" to be done when it comes to what you want me to "prove"? There are <i>no sixth-floor witnesses</i>---period.<br>
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But what we <b>DO</b> have are the things <b>OSWALD</b> left behind --- <b>HIS</b> rifle, <b>HIS</b> prints at the exact spot where JFK's assassin was located (i.e., deep within the Sniper's Nest), and the <i>empty</i> 38-inch paper bag with <b>HIS</b> prints on it.<br>
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And there's also the fact that Oswald had <i>no provable alibi</i> for the exact time of the assassination. (Is there any other Depository employee who can be placed in that "No Alibi" category? I doubt that there is.)<br>
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Therefore, why on Earth <i>shouldn't</i> I be pointing a finger of guilt at Lee Harvey Oswald, the man to whom all of the physical evidence leads?<br>
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Should I just <b>IGNORE</b> all of that evidence or pretend it's all been "planted" there to frame an innocent Oswald? Sorry, but that idea is beyond silly and foolish (IMHO).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID <a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3901.msg154584.html#msg154584">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Hello again Martin,<br>
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As you no doubt already know, it's my opinion that absolutely <i>none</i> of the evidence in the JFK and Tippit murder cases has been faked or manufactured or planted, and as such it is fairly obvious that Lee Harvey Oswald was guilty of the two murders he was charged with committing on 11/22/63.<br>
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I also fully realize, of course, that most (if not all) people who lean toward believing in a conspiracy in the Kennedy and Tippit cases think that it is highly likely that at least some (and probably most) of the physical evidence that points toward Oswald was in some way tainted by the police and/or FBI following the two murders. So that's a disagreement that is always going to exist and will likely never be reconciled to please both sides of the debate.<br>
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But in addition to the physical evidence itself, a good deal of attention also needs to be focused on <b>Oswald's own actions and movements</b> on both November 21st and 22nd---which are things that I don't think even the most imaginative conspiracy theorist on the planet could possibly believe were "manufactured" by the authorities.<br>
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And when those actions and movements are examined, it becomes quite clear that Mr. Oswald did several unusual things on each of those days, such as:<br>
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<b>....</b> Going out to Ruth Paine's house in Irving, Texas, with Buell Frazier on a Thursday (instead of his normal Friday).<br>
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<b>.... </b>Telling a lie about why he wanted a ride to Irving on Thursday, Nov. 21st. (And it's fairly clear that Oswald's "curtain rods" story was, indeed, nothing but a lie.)<br>
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<b>.... </b>Bringing a large-ish paper package with him to work on 11/22 (and telling a lie to Frazier about the contents of that package).<br>
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<b>.... </b>Walking ahead of Frazier into the TSBD Building on the morning of 11/22.<br>
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<b>....</b> Asking for an elevator to be sent back up to him on an upper floor of the TSBD at about 11:45 AM on 11/22. (Now, why do you suppose Oswald wanted that to be done?)<br>
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<b>....</b> Leaving the TSBD Building within about three minutes of the Presidential shooting and then proceeding to walk several blocks east on Elm Street in order to get on a bus that he only stayed on for a matter of a few minutes before getting off and catching a cab at the Greyhound bus terminal (which was likely the <i>only</i> time in his life that Lee Oswald paid for a taxicab ride while in the United States of America).<br>
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<b>....</b> And after getting into William Whaley's cab on 11/22, where does Oswald tell the driver to drop him off? Not at the front doorstep of 1026 N. Beckley (which Whaley could have easily done), but instead Oswald tells Whaley to drop him off three whole blocks <i>beyond</i> his Beckley roominghouse.<br>
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<b>....</b> Oswald then backtracks to his rented room, grabs his revolver and a jacket, and quickly leaves the roominghouse.<br>
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<b>....</b> Oswald then shoots and kills police officer J.D. Tippit on Tenth Street. <b>[Continual reminder for conspiracy theorists ----> <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xpEpHmcfwCU/YPnmE4x3zEI/AAAAAAABZCI/_-fE_QfbBhkGj9qEwO7wFfYvQsVKgSQ8gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1000/DVP-Quote-Regarding-Tippit-Murder.png">Click Here</a></b>.]</b><br>
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<b>....</b> Oswald is next seen acting "funny" and "scared" while he has his back turned to the wailing police cars on Jefferson Boulevard in front of Johnny Brewer's shoe store.<br>
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<b>....</b> Then it's on to the Texas Theater for LHO, as he sneaks in without bothering to pay for the cheap ticket.<br>
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<b>....</b> Oswald then pulls his gun on police officer McDonald inside the theater.<br>
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<b>....</b> And the comments made by Oswald at the time of his arrest in the theater certainly don't conjure up visions of an "innocent patsy" either.<br>
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So, as we can see, <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/everything-oswald-did-says-guilt.html">Oswald's Movements</a></b> certainly can't be ignored or swept under the rug---because, in my opinion, Lee Oswald's own movements and actions on Nov. 21 and Nov. 22 add up to the actions of a guilty person.<br>
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And when we add the physical evidence (plus the Tippit eyewitnesses) to Oswald's own <i>guilty-like actions</i>, then the only conceivable way to exonerate Mr. Oswald for the murders of John F. Kennedy and J.D. Tippit would be to do what most conspiracy theorists do, and that is to make the following bold claim (sans any <i>proof</i> at all):<br>
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<i><b>All of that evidence against Lee Harvey Oswald was fake!</i></b><br>
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Also....<br>
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The chain of possession/custody for Bullet CE399 is, in my opinion, a lot stronger than most conspiracists believe it is. And it got even stronger in June 2022 when researcher Steve Roe discovered <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/06/the-initials-of-elmer-todd-are-on-ce399.html">Elmer Todd's initials</a></b> on the bullet.<br>
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More discussion on CE399's chain of custody <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-secret-service-and-ce399.html">HERE</a></b> and <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-711.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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Lots more proof of Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt at the link below:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">FERGUS O'BRIEN <a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3901.msg154742.html#msg154742">SAID</a>:</span></b><br>
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Your stance is the official stance, which is that Oswald left the building within 3 minutes of the shooting via the front door. .... I would like to ask you for proof that Oswald did leave the depository via the FRONT door 3 minutes after the shooting.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But what difference does it really make which door Oswald utilized to leave the building? Whether it be the back door or the front door, there is no doubt whatsoever that Lee Oswald <b>WAS</b> inside the building at circa 12:32 PM and he then got onto a bus (and then a cab) a few minutes later. You surely don't deny the fact that Oswald made it to his roominghouse by about 1:00 PM, do you? Therefore, Oswald definitely <b><i>DID</i></b> leave the TSBD building within a very few minutes of the shooting. That fact is beyond all doubt (even amongst CTers).<br>
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When I discussed Oswald's "unusual" actions on 11/21 and 11/22, you need to <b>ADD UP</b> <i><b>ALL</i></b> of those actions and movements, instead of isolating just one of them (which is what you did above).<br>
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And when ALL of those actions/movements are added together, the result is, IMO, a person named Oswald who certainly was NOT an innocent "patsy" on 11/22/63.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">FERGUS O'BRIEN SAID:</span></b><br>
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There is no doubt that Oswald left his workplace. Which door he left by is not a proven thing by any stretch, and that was my point. Even you, in essence, state something to be fact that actually is not proven fact.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I do, indeed, think that Oswald did exit the building via the front door. Is this a "proven" fact? No. But it is certainly the most reasonable inference to be made from the available evidence (mainly based on the testimony of Mrs. Reid, who saw Oswald walking toward the <b>FRONT</b> stairs on the 2nd floor at about 12:32).<br>
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And since we <b>KNOW</b> that Oswald (who was no doubt attempting to get out of that building as quickly as he could following the shooting which was carried out with <b><i>HIS RIFLE</i></b> from the sixth floor) <i>did</i> exit the building very soon after the shooting, it doesn't make very much sense for him to go down the <i>front</i> stairs (which is the direction he was headed when Reid saw him), but then <i>reverse</i> his direction and go all the way to the <i>back</i> of the building again so he could exit via the Loading Dock door (which, IMO, would look <i>more</i> suspicious to anyone who might happen to see him leave by that back door right after a Presidential assassination attempt).<br>
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So the "reasonable inference" reached by the Warren Commission (and by David R. Von Pein of the Hoosier State) is that Lee H. Oswald very likely departed the Book Depository via the front entrance at about 12:33 PM CST on November 22nd. Your opinion may vary. But if it does vary, it's certainly not going to be nearly as "reasonable" as the "front door" inference.<br>
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And, btw, in <b><a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3901.msg154668.html#msg154668"><i>this</i> thread</a></b> itself, I never said a word about Oswald leaving by the "front door". All I said was this:<br>
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<i>".... Leaving the TSBD Building within about three minutes of the Presidential shooting and then proceeding to walk several blocks east on Elm Street in order to get on a bus that he only stayed on for a matter of a few minutes before getting off and catching a cab at the Greyhound bus terminal (which was likely the only time in his life that Lee Oswald paid for a taxicab ride while in the United States of America)."</i><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">FERGUS O'BRIEN SAID:</span></b><br>
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He [Lee Oswald] could have sat alone eating in the lunchroom as per the interrogation notes and also have no alibi.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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LHO sure was one <i>unlucky</i> S.O.B. on 11/22, wasn't he? He was probably the only employee in the entire building to not have a provable alibi for the exact time of the shooting. And it just so happens that all of the evidence points directly at him. And it also just so happens that he was seen by a policeman at the back of the building (near the stairs) within 2 minutes of the shooting. And it also just so happens that Oswald wasn't sitting down at a table eating lunch either. He was seen by Baker & Truly while he (LHO) was STANDING UP and walking toward the middle of the lunchroom.<br>
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As I said .... 11/22/63 was certainly <b>NOT</b> the luckiest of Fridays for Mr. Oswald.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">FERGUS O'BRIEN SAID:</span></b><br>
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What about Mrs. Reid, the witness you cited, seeing Oswald only in a white tee shirt as he was leaving with COKE in hand? I am interested in your thoughts on this.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The "Coke" answer is quite simple:<br>
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Oswald bought the Coke <b>AFTER</b> his encounter with Truly/Baker. Not before.<br>
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More "Coke" talk <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/oswald-baker-truly-and-coca-cola.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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Re: Oswald's Shirts....<br>
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It's been my opinion for many years that Oswald probably wasn't wearing his brown outer shirt when he shot Kennedy. He was only wearing his white T-shirt at that moment. I think he used the brown shirt as a fingerprint-wiping rag as he ran from the Sniper's Nest to the northwest stairway (to wipe off at least some of the prints on the rifle). He then quickly put on the brown shirt (but left it unbuttoned) at some point after he started to descend the staircase.<br>
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It makes the most sense to me that he likely put on the brown shirt while he was descending the stairs. But, with Mrs. Reid's testimony in mind, it could be that LHO was still holding the shirt in his hand when he passed Reid on the 2nd floor, and he only put the shirt on after leaving Reid's sight. Or, it could be that Oswald <i>was</i> wearing his unbuttoned brown shirt the whole time, but Reid just didn't notice it during her five-second encounter with the fleeing assassin.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3901.msg154553.html#msg154553">January 10-21, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Embedded below is my copy of Helen Markham's 1964 interview with CBS News. It's a little longer than <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VQ-0-G_UG8">this other version</a></b> that has been posted in this thread.<br>
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What I find interesting in this video is the part where Markham actually claims that she herself used the radio in Tippit's patrol car. There's a snippet in the interview (right after the DPD radio call excerpt is played) when Markham says <i><b>"And they heard me"</i></b>. Which implies, of course, that she herself had called in the shooting on Tippit's car radio.<br>
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There is, of course, nothing in the Dallas Police transcripts or the DPD audio recordings that would indicate that Mrs. Markham ever talked to the DPD over the police radio. (Unless we're to believe that Markham had the same trouble Domingo Benavides had when attempting to operate Tippit's car radio, and that she just simply could not get through to the dispatcher, but she thought she had.)<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29963-finish-the-sentence-re-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=525789">January 11, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30062-on-the-reliability-of-witness-recollections/?do=findComment&comment=526169">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Far and away the <b>#1 best</b> "Dealey Plaza witness" was the Bell & Howell movie camera being held by Abraham Zapruder.<br>
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That camera isn't lying to us or misrepresenting President Kennedy's head wound. That Bell & Howell camera is clearly telling us that the President's large "blow-out" head wound was most definitely <b>NOT</b> anywhere in the <i><b>BACK</i></b> of the head:<br>
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Also See:<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30062-on-the-reliability-of-witness-recollections/?do=findComment&comment=526178">January 16, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Below is a very interesting video that I found recently at the <b><i><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaPMn2PMzxdHd0--3sTr_La3wNsnb7NyQ">KFMB-TV <br>San Diego</a></i></b> YouTube channel. It features many "man in the street" interviews with the people of San Diego, California, over the course of three days (November 22, 23, and 24, 1963).<br>
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Also included in this video is a fairly extensive 11/23/63 interview with a Mr. Larry Hollis, who was a witness just 24 hours earlier to Lee Harvey Oswald's arrest at the Texas Theater (that interview begins at <b>15:22</b>)....<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">Related Videos:</b></span><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22174-kennedy-videos/?do=findComment&comment=526263">January 17, 2024</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL GRIFFITH SAID:</span></b><br>
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JFK's Dramatic Z226-232 Reaction: <br>More Proof that the SBT Is a Silly Myth ----> <b><a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3921.msg154879.html#msg154879">Click Here</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Not only isn't the Single-Bullet Theory a "silly myth", it's almost certainly a rock-solid <b>FACT</b>. And the following Zapruder Film clip, which shows JFK and Connally raising their right arms at the exact same instant, goes a long way toward proving it's a fact:<br>
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I wonder what the odds are of the Warren Commission being able to re-create such a nearly perfect SBT demonstration (via CE903, pictured below) and yet <b>NOT</b> have such a demonstration represent the truth of what actually happened? I wouldn't want to take those odds to Vegas if I was an anti-SBT conspiracy believer. And yet I'm supposed to believe the CTers who tell me that two (or probably THREE) different bullets lined themselves up beautifully so that Arlen Specter could later present this impressive "one bullet" exhibit to the world. Talk about incredibly good luck for Mr. Specter & Company! ....<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL GRIFFITH SAID <a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3921.msg154884.html#msg154884">ALL THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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JFK isn't "reacting" at all prior to Z226. The HSCA's "Z190" SBT timeline is total nonsense and totally wrong. President Kennedy's right hand is still being <b>LOWERED</b> between Z224 and 225:<br>
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Connally's and Kennedy's right arms are then simultaneously moving upward between 225 and 226. And Connally <i>was</i> struck in his RIGHT wrist during the shooting. Just a coincidence? If so, what's causing this rapid up-then-down movement of the exact same arm/wrist that was wounded by a bullet?<br>
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CTers have come up with all kinds of lame-ass excuses to try and explain away all of the many things we see going on with Governor Connally in Zapruder frames 224 to 230 <b>(<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html">GO HERE</a></b> to see about a dozen such excuses)</b>, but sensible people can easily see through the B.S. and constant denial being exhibited by the conspiracy theorists.<br>
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Re: the HSCA's absurd "11-degree upward angle" of the bullet path through JFK's upper back and neck....<br>
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<b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/jfk-back-wound-location.html">http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/The Location Of JFK's Back Wound</a></i></b><br>
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-67422349808667244562023-12-01T01:20:00.000-08:002024-01-19T17:56:29.073-08:00 JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS (PART 1371) <br><base target="_blank">
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Part 1371 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>December 1—31, 2023</b>. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29935-proof-that-pat-speer-is-wrong-about-dr-mcclelland-initially-saying-the-gaping-wound-was-near-the-temple/?do=findComment&comment=521543">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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It's clear as day (to me) that when Dr. Robert McClelland wrote the following words in <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0019b.htm">this 4:45 PM Admission Note</a></b> on 11/22/63....<br>
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<b><i><span style="font-size:125%;">"The cause of death was due to massive head and brain injury from a gunshot wound of the left temple."</span></i></b><br>
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....McClelland was <i>only</i> talking about where he thought at the time the bullet had <b>ENTERED</b> JFK's head (via the erroneous information he had garnered in Trauma Room #1 from Dr. Jenkins).<br>
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McClelland's "left temple" reference is obviously not meant to convey information concerning where the large wound was located on the President's head. McClelland never even attempts to mention the location of the large exit wound in his 4:45 Admission Note. He never says a word about the large wound at all.<br>
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So it's a mystery to me as to why on Earth Pat Speer seems to think that Dr. McClelland's initial 4:45 PM report suggests that he (McClelland) actually was implying he saw a huge hole in the "left temple" of President Kennedy. I don't interpret it that way at all. And I don't think very many other people would either.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUNyWKr8LzbRQW5GQnVM9agRYItk8EHLyY8ONLYSTH2IXdKE2OlSrG9XiOxs49oLrZBJLdjtKzfQTxVL9dHp7soED9VJpgsS9esP9qC6deEgsXKkzXFmbfF-OBLUX-p1MqWBhkq4oAX2AheH2GrdV9Uw0YWmqkQtJmXg1PF6STH9mASf6jWUE93Zk48_k/s1484/EF-Post.png">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Why not? What rule book did you get that out of?<br>
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Anyway, you're obviously wrong in your above comment, because that is exactly what Dr. McClelland <i>did</i> do in his November 22 Admission Note -- i.e., he wrote a report in which he only described the location for where he thought (incorrectly, of course) the bullet had entered the head of President Kennedy, and he did not describe (at all) the location of the large wound of exit.<br>
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Like it or not, that's precisely what Dr. McClelland did.<br>
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[Also see the related discussion <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29842-jfk-what-the-doctors-saw-validates-there-was-no-exit-hole-in-the-back-of-jfks-head/?do=findComment&comment=521011">HERE</a></b>.]<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29935-proof-that-pat-speer-is-wrong-about-dr-mcclelland-initially-saying-the-gaping-wound-was-near-the-temple/?do=findComment&comment=521630">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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LOL back at ya! I certainly hope you're not placing me in the category of someone who actually finds the story of the late Dr. Robert McClelland "credible". Because nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, I've been ripping McClelland's story to shreds for many years now (particularly his <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/parkland-doctors-on-pbs-tv-in-1988.html">insane "pulled-up scalp" fantasy</a></b>).<br>
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And I certainly don't require the assistance of Mr. Bugliosi (or anyone else) when it comes to evaluating the multiple things that Dr. McClelland gets wrong in his initial November 22nd statement. It's all right there on pages 11 and 12 of <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0019a.htm">CE392</a></b>, including the bizarre conclusion reached by Dr. McClelland about there being <i><b>"a fragment wound of the trachea"</i></b>. What the heck is that supposed to mean anyway? It would seem as if McClelland was speculating that a "fragment" of some sort [bullet? bone?] had caused the wound in JFK's throat. Where that notion came from is a mystery to me.<br>
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In the final analysis, Dr. McClelland's conclusion concerning the location of JFK's large head wound (which was very similar to many of the other <i>"Back Of The Head"</i> witnesses) is <i>provably wrong</i>—as discussed in greater detail <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/boh.html">HERE</a></b>).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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A NOVA/PBS Addendum....<br>
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In my last post above, I linked to one of my webpages which includes <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r8tqwWb3xC9kZ2hwgsjWuOuLySKRPhKn/view">this 5-minute excerpt</a></b> from the 1988 NOVA/PBS program (<i>"Who Shot President Kennedy?"</i>), which was hosted by Walter Cronkite. And I recently noticed something odd in that program that I had never noticed before—it's when Mr. Cronkite utters this blatant falsehood to the viewing audience:<br>
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<span style="font-size:125%;"><i><b>"The drawing [pictured below] suggests what many of the photos examined by the doctors and NOVA show—a large wound about this size and location."</i></b></span><br>
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The above statement made by Mr. Cronkite is, of course, just flat-out wrong, because there are <b>ZERO</b> autopsy photographs which support the notion of a large blow-out wound in the rear (occipital) portion of JFK's head. So I haven't the slightest idea how NOVA and Cronkite arrived at the conclusion that some of the autopsy photos depict a large back-of-the-head blow-out.<br>
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And I find it very strange that a statement like the one quoted above concerning the official autopsy photographs at the National Archives would have been aired on national television, especially when weighed against the observations of the HSCA's Michael Baden (who had full and complete access in the 1970s to all of the first-generation autopsy photographs):<br>
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<i><b><span style="font-size:125%;">"Clearly, from the autopsy X-rays and photographs and the observations of the autopsy surgeons, the exit wound and defect was not in the occipital area. There was no defect or wound to the rear of Kennedy's head other than the entrance wound in the upper right part of his head."</i></span>
<br><span style="font-size:125%;">-- Dr. Michael Baden; January 8, 2000</b></span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29935-proof-that-pat-speer-is-wrong-about-dr-mcclelland-initially-saying-the-gaping-wound-was-near-the-temple/?do=findComment&comment=521729">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Dead wrong. (As per usual.)<br>
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And CE903 forever provides the proof that Pat Speer is dead wrong when he says that <i>"the autopsy photos show a back wound too low to support the single-bullet theory"</i>.<br>
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And Pat's above comment also means (I guess) that the Clark Panel was filled with nothing but scheming rotten liars too....<br>
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<i><span style="font-size:125%;">"There is an elliptical penetrating wound of the skin of the back located approximately 15 cm. medial to the right acromial process, 5 cm. lateral to the mid-dorsal line and 14 cm. below the right mastoid process. This wound lies approximately 5.5 cm. below a transverse fold in the skin of the neck. This fold can also be seen in a lateral view of the neck which shows an anterior tracheotomy wound. This view makes it possible to compare the levels of these two wounds in relation to that of the horizontal plane of the body. .... The center of the circular wound [in the front of the neck] is situated approximately 9 cm. below the transverse fold in the skin of the neck described in a preceding paragraph. This indicates that the bullet which produced the two wounds followed a course downward and to the left in its passage through the body."</i> <b>-- From Clark Panel Report</b></span><br>
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So, as we can see, the Clark Panel concluded that the bullet hole in Kennedy's throat was located 3.5 centimeters <b>LOWER</b> (anatomically) than the bullet wound in his upper back.<br>
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But, instead of relying on the Clark guys, I'm supposed to trust Dr. Speer's analysis regarding the SBT and CE903 and lots of other medical issues.<b>*</b><br>
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Thanks. But no thanks.<br>
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<b>*</b> Yes, it's true that I'm tossing in the trash the HSCA's ridiculous "11-degree upward angle" nonsense concerning the back and throat wounds. But any sensible person <i>must</i> do that after looking just once at the appropriate autopsy photos.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARCUS FULLER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29944-oswalds-postal-order-handwriting/?do=findComment&comment=521799">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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That's a pretty decent job at imitating Oswald's writing. Especially your two "Hidell" attempts. I salute you.<br>
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So, Marcus, do you think all of the various "Questioned Documents Experts" (i.e., the handwriting experts) who testified in front of the Warren Commission and HSCA were all wrong (or perhaps lying) when several of them testified that the writing on the <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0352a.htm">money order</a></b> was put there by Lee Harvey Oswald himself?<br>
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<b>Mr. EISENBERG --</b> Did you compare Exhibit No. 788 with the standards to determine whether Exhibit No. 788 had been written by Lee Harvey Oswald?<br>
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<b>Mr. CADIGAN --</b> Yes.<br>
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<b>Mr. EISENBERG --</b> What was your conclusion?<br>
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<b>Mr. CADIGAN --</b> That the postal money order, Cadigan Exhibit No. 11, had been prepared by Lee Harvey Oswald.<br>
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<b>Mr. EISENBERG --</b> The postal money order is Commission Exhibit No. 788 and your picture is Cadigan Exhibit No. 11, is that correct?<br>
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<b>Mr. CADIGAN --</b> That is correct.<br>
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<b>Mr. KLEIN --</b> The document, which is marked F-509, the money order, is an original document; is it not?<br>
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<b>Mr. McNALLY --</b> It was; yes.<br>
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<b>Mr. KLEIN --</b> And your conclusion is they were written by the same person who wrote the other documents?<br>
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The second picture below is <b><a href="https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0152a.htm">Cadigan Exhibit No. 11</a></b>, which is a higher-quality version of the Postal Money Order, which shows the money order prior to it being treated for fingerprints (hence, the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1058.html#The-Bleed-Thru-Problem-Explained">"Bleed-Thru" mystery</a></b> of CE788 is explained):<br>
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<b>Mr. EISENBERG --</b> Are the photographs which you produced photographs of the items before they were treated for fingerprints or after?<br>
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<b>Mr. CADIGAN --</b> Yes; before they were treated for fingerprints. In other words, it is regular customary practice to photograph an exhibit before it is treated for latents for exactly this reason, that in the course of the treatment there may be some loss of detail, either total or partial.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22439-yes-postal-money-orders-do-require-bank-endorsements/?do=findComment&comment=521934">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Indeed, Greg.<br>
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Here's what I said about that topic of "bulk batch" deposits during <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1058.html">these marathon EF forum sessions</a></b> concerning the Hidell money order back in 2015:<br>
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<b>DAVID V.P. SAID:</b><br>
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I would guess that the Hidell money order was probably "endorsed" as part of a <b>bulk batch</b> of U.S. Postal Money Orders sent by First National Bank to the Federal Reserve Bank in Chicago.<br />
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All of the money orders in such a "bulk" transfer were going to be sent to the very same place--the FRB in Chicago, Illinois--so I can't see why a <b>single</b> stamped endorsement placed on a separate document (which would be attached to the bundle of bulk money orders being sent from First National to the FRB) wouldn't suffice in a bulk transaction like that, instead of having to stamp a separate endorsement on each and every money order. <br />
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I do not know for certain if such a <b>"single endorsement on bulk transfers"</b> procedure was actually in place at major U.S. banks in 1963, but such a process makes perfect sense to me. And it would certainly save the bank a lot of "stamping" time too.<br />
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To reiterate, a <b><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-M_LqcrrJcF4/VmH_T_tcApI/AAAAAAABIYo/j6oLZ1pwXVA/s1600/1960-FRB-Regulations--Number-12.png">"cash letter"</b></a> for a bulk deposit would, in my view, still satisfy the regulation cited below, without the First National Bank personnel needing to place <i>multiple</i> separate stamped endorsements on each and every U.S. Postal Money Order that was part of such a "bulk" deposit/transfer.<br />
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If the bulk transfer from First National Bank to the Federal Reserve Bank was accompanied by a slip of paper that had all the stamped endorsements and information mentioned in <b><a href="https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/docs/historical/ny%20circulars/1960_04928.pdf">Rule 13</a></b> (from the 1960 regulations) or <b><a href="https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/docs/historical/ny%20circulars/1969_6370.pdf">Rule 15</a></b> (from the 1969 regulations), please tell me why that would not satisfy the endorsement policy?<br />
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Maybe we can now get into a big debate over the words "<b>All</b> cash items" vs. the words "<b>Each</b> cash item".<br />
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It seems to me that a bulk transfer, which would include just one piece of paper (i.e., deposit slip) for the entire "batch" of money orders being sent to the FRB (i.e., for <b>"ALL cash items"</b> within the bundled bulk package), would be a way of transferring a large amount of money orders from FNB to the FRB without violating anything written in this regulation here....<br />
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<b><i>"All cash items sent to us, or to another Federal Reserve Bank direct for our account, should be endorsed without restriction to, or to the order of, the Federal Reserve Bank to which sent, or endorsed to, or to the order of, any bank, banker, or trust company, or endorsed with equivalent words or abbreviations thereof. The endorsement of the sender should be dated and should show the A.B.A. transit number of the sender, if any, in prominent type on both sides of the endorsement."</i></b><br />
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And I'd like to again remind everyone of <b><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-M_LqcrrJcF4/VmH_T_tcApI/AAAAAAABIYo/j6oLZ1pwXVA/s1600/1960-FRB-Regulations--Number-12.png">Regulation #12</a></b> (from 1960):<br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22439-yes-postal-money-orders-do-require-bank-endorsements/?do=findComment&comment=522114">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But banks obviously didn't treat both checks and Postal Money Orders "exactly the same way" in 1963.<br>
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How can we know this is so?<br>
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<b>1.</b> There's no bank stamps on the Hidell Postal Money Order (other than the Klein's endorsement).<br>
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BUT, even though #1 is true with respect to Oswald's $21.45 money order....<br>
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<b>2.</b> There <b>IS</b> a File Locator Number (FLN) stamped on the Hidell PMO (just where it should be, in the upper left corner). And we know that FLNs are the very last thing stamped on a PMO <i><b>after it has been deposited and processed</i></b>.<br>
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<b>3.</b> And the PMO in question ended up in Alexandria, Virginia, at the Postal Records Center --- which is just exactly where it should have ended its journey <b><i>after being properly processed</b></i>.<br>
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Now, tell me again why anyone would believe the Hidell Postal Money Order was a fraudulent document.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22439-yes-postal-money-orders-do-require-bank-endorsements/?do=findComment&comment=522115">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The old, worn-out conspiracy myths never die. You should know that that is a basic and fundamental rule of JFK forums by now, shouldn't you Jim?<br>
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Another worn-out obsolete argument that's currently making the rounds at <i>The Education Forum</i> is <b>"The SBT Is Impossible"</b> claptrap.<br>
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Next week, the <b>"Badge Man"</b> and <b>"Tippit Was Buried In JFK's Grave"</b> myths will likely be revisited.<br>
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It never ends. And never will.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29944-oswalds-postal-order-handwriting/?do=findComment&comment=521826">December 3, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">TODD VAUGHAN SAID:</span></b><br>
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There's no photo of the bag [CE142] inside the TSBD.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Actually, there is such a photo....discussed <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/frazier-randle-and-paper-bag.html#Paper-Bag-Addendum">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Uhh, wait a second, <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhl8iPL7ojnxj8ptjV04o3d-VFb3XLscQZAiTUcnY2Q_JxWlfJiXDztY0WFEwos7WzLr7ZVYP7BB51f0u8bZ-ltYBmXmUQxEdRBERSIyYnFQVEn7fwP3_UBDAopDkfeLGdGJXT-XP18dwyouz8i9YWRgqQVAXLKiZH3lO6ectWjMc_FE6W-HxJMbuN_/s1500/TSBD-Sixth-Floor-Southeast-Corner-Highlighting-Paper-Bag.jpg">that photo</a></b> is a bigger problem for WC supporters than it is for those who doubt the veracity of the bag.<br>
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Where, exactly, did anyone say they found the bag and then left it sitting around on some boxes? I mean, we know it wasn't there all along.<br>
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Numerous witnesses were in that area prior to that photo being taken, and none of the witnesses saw the bag sitting on those boxes, and the Alyea film proves it wasn't there when the sniper's nest was discovered. So we know the bag was placed there shortly before the photo was taken. Well, hell, why?<br>
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You have Montgomery and Johnson claiming they found the bag, and that Studebaker then came over and dusted it, etc. And yet they just left it there for ??? how long? Okay, let's say an hour. This PROVES then that the bag was created and/or "found" LONG after the discovery of the sniper's nest.<br>
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And this leads back to the question of the day/year. WHY did none of the first men viewing the sniper's nest, including Capt. Fritz, see a bag purported to cover nearly half the open space in the corner of the sniper's nest? ANSWER: Because there wasn't one there at the time.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The <b><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/TJp0s4p6NeI/AAAAAAAAFY4/lCSo4qr2LBA/s1600/CE142.jpg">CE142</a></b> bag, of course, was indeed first seen/found in the southeast corner of the 6th floor (folded up, twice). And I think that bag was very likely initially considered to be merely trash (i.e., something not directly connected to the "crime scene").<br>
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But after it was picked up, it was unfolded and placed on the boxes. And then someone realized that this homemade bag could have held the rifle and it was put into evidence.<br>
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But to those who want to believe the bag was a complete concoction of the Dallas Police --- why bring it back up to the 6th floor? It certainly wasn't to photograph it, because the DPD never did photograph it (except by accident, just barely visible in <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0123b.htm">CE508</a></b>).<br>
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And if the paper and tape dispensers are located on the FIRST floor (which they were), why the need to bring a "fake" bag up to the 6th? Just to lay it on the boxes and then NOT take a good picture of it? I don't get that logic.<br>
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Anyway, there were 4 or 5 officers who testified that they definitely <i>did</i> see the bag on the floor in the southeast corner, folded up, before the police moved it. So the conspiracy theorists have more people to call liars now (I guess).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PATRICK COLLINS SAID:</span></b><br>
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David,<br>
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I agree and would add that the notion that the DPD would "concoct" the paper bag to somehow implicate Oswald is ridiculous. It also is, as you say, illogical. How would they know, for example, that Lee had carried a paper package to work that day? It was also, in my opinion, not needed. Was the rifle not enough?!<br>
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It is an example of playing games with the benefit of hindsight. In reality, in real time, you would need unparalleled foresight and luck.<br>
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It is a preposterous suggestion.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Indeed, Patrick. The notion of the "fake bag" (being created by the DPD at that very early hour on the afternoon of 11/22/63) is, indeed, "preposterous".<br>
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As to the reason(s) for why several of the police officers said they did not see the paper bag while it was still resting on the floor in the southeast corner, I offer up some possible explanations <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/frazier-randle-and-paper-bag.html#More-Paper-Bag-Discussion">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Please present any evidence you have suggesting that those first on the scene saw the bag and dismissed it as trash. It seems clear you just made that up.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I have no direct evidence relating to my "trash" comment. It's merely guesswork on my part. (And please don't tell me I shouldn't ever rely on "guesswork", because virtually every single thing that conspiracy theorists do regarding their analysis of the JFK case revolves largely around that very word—"guesswork". Without guesswork, in fact, CTers might as well pack up and go home, because they'd have nothing to pin their hopes on without relying on "guesswork" and "gut feelings", and everybody here knows it.)<br>
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Actually, I think my "trash" theory makes quite a bit of (common) sense. The notion that some of the officers could have merely thought the <i>twice-folded-up</i> paper bag that was resting in the farthest reaches of the dusty and dirty sixth floor's southeast corner was simply a piece of discarded trash lying in that corner makes a great deal of sense to me.<br>
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Plus, some officers who might have caught a glimpse of the bag might not have even realized it was a "paper bag" at all, seeing as how it had been folded up <i>twice</i> (per the testimony of Police Officer Marvin Johnson), thus reducing its size considerably as it lay in the corner. Johnson testified that the package he saw in the southeast corner was <i>"a fairly small package"</i>.<br>
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Also....<br>
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Another possible answer to the "mystery" as to why some officers never saw the bag at all could be because those officers were simply never in a proper position within (or near) the Sniper's Nest itself to have seen the paper bag in the first place.<br>
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In offering up these various "Paper Bag" scenarios, I'm just trying to present some possible <i>non-sinister</i> and <i>non-conspiratorial</i> reasons to explain why we have one group of police officers who said they did see something on the sixth floor, while another group of officers said they didn't see it.<br>
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And if some of the members of that second group had actually <i>seen</i> the bag but failed at the time to associate the "fairly small package" with the <i>crime scene</i>, and instead had merely thought it was a piece of paper debris that had been swept into the far southeast corner, then that could (IMO) certainly account for some of the confusion revolving around the testimony of the various witnesses concerning the paper bag.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Those arriving on the scene before its discovery said they saw no such thing ["trash"] and those claiming to have discovered it said it was out in the open covering much of the open floor by the boxes, where anyone inspecting the boxes or looking out the window would have seen it. It’s a mystery.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The things you just said about the bag being <i><b>"out in the open"</i></b> and <i><b>"covering much of the open floor by the boxes"</i></b> are things that are totally contradicted by two of the officers who said they definitely did see the paper bag on the 6th floor:<br>
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MR. STUDEBAKER -- <i>"Over in the corner—in the southeast corner of the building, in the far southeast corner, as far as you can get is where it was."</i><br>
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MR. JOHNSON -- <i>"It was folded and then refolded. It was a fairly small package. .... That sack was right in the corner. .... I would say that the sack was folded up here and it was east of the pipes in the corner."</i><br>
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That doesn't sound to me like Studebaker or Johnson saw the bag <b>"out in the open"</b>.<br>
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Also....<br>
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Can anyone explain to me how the following four Dallas Police Department officers could have seen a brown paper object in the southeast corner of the sixth floor that was never <i>ever</i> there? ....<br>
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Robert Studebaker [<b><a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/html/WC_Vol7_0076a.htm">7 H 143</a></b>].<br>
L.D. Montgomery [<b><a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/html/WC_Vol7_0053a.htm">7 H 97</a></b>].<br>
J.C. Day [<b><a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh4/html/WC_Vol4_0138a.htm">4 H 267</a></b>].<br>
Marvin Johnson [<b><a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/html/WC_Vol7_0056a.htm">7 H 103</a></b>].<br>
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In some of my comments above, I've been attempting to reconcile the controversy surrounding the "Paper Bag Witnesses" without having to resort to calling any of the witnesses "liars". I think I accomplished that goal. I'm wondering if any conspiracy theorist could do the same. I doubt they can.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID:</span></b><br>
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It seems apparent you don't know the record, David.<br>
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None of the witnesses who saw the sniper's nest before the arrival of Day and Studebaker recalled seeing the bag in the corner, even though the official story has the bag covering most of the open space by the so-called seat box, and at least three of these witnesses--Mooney, McCurley, and Fritz, actually stood in the SN within a foot or so of where the bag was supposedly discovered.<br>
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As far as witnesses claiming they saw it, they were all brought forth by Belin after he realized none of the first witnesses remembered anything about the bag. Most notoriously, he dredged up two motorcycle officers whose recollections were so meaningless to the investigation that they were never even asked to write a report on what they saw that day.<br>
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And yet, somehow, after going 0 for 7 or 8 or whatever, Belin suddenly coughs up two previously uninterviewed witnesses with foggy recollections of maybe seeing a bag.<br>
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It's clear from this--crystal clear--that he put out an APB... <i>"Hello!! Will anyone testify to seeing that freaking bag?"</i> and that he found but two takers.<br>
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The other supposed bag witnesses were either involved in its supposed discovery, or blurry headed and clearly incorrect in much of their testimony, like Sims.<br>
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And it's worse than that. On my website, I run through the evolution of the statements of Montgomery, Johnson, Studebaker, and Day, and show how they are contradictory and not remotely credible.<br>
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I also show how at least one print on the bag was disappeared from the record and how the Warren Commission itself lied about the locations of the prints on the bag.<br>
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It's a minefield.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You, Pat, <i><b>ACTUALLY</i></b> think <b>ALL FOUR</b> of those Dallas police officers were liars (Montgomery, Johnson, Day, and Studebaker)?? Such a belief is simply ridiculous and over-the-top.<br>
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And you've also got to believe that Studebaker's lies concerning the bag were multi-layered....because he said he actually <i>picked up</i> the bag and <i>dusted it for prints</i>. (More lies?)<br>
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Plus --- Any idea how the patsy-framing plotters managed to plant Oswald's fingerprints on the paper bag? Lieutenant J.C. Day, as of 2002, didn't even think such a transfer of prints was possible (and he's talking about the rifle in the book excerpt below, but I think it's safe to assume that Lt. Day would have had the same opinion about the "impossible" nature of being able to transfer an inked print to a paper bag as well).<br>
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Via Page 802 of Vincent Bugliosi's book, <i>"Reclaiming History"</i>....<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
December 7-9, 2023<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MILES MASSICOTTE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29953-a-strange-harold-weisberg-clip">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/10/harold-weisberg.html">HERE'S</a></b> another very "strange" Harold Weisberg clip (which, given the known evidence in the JFK case, is <i>much</i> more ridiculous than even Harold's ultra-preposterous notion that the DPD would have even <i>cared</i> about whether Buell Frazier was shacking up with Marina Oswald).<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29953-a-strange-harold-weisberg-clip/?do=findComment&comment=522400">December 8, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT SAID:</span></b><br>
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Question for DVP....<br>
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<b><a href="http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com">Your webpage on the SBT</a></b> is one of the best examinations of the subject that I have come across. The toggling features are one of the most illuminating pieces of evidence regarding the SBT. It shows with clarity, the bulging of the jacket at Z224, that JFK's right hand was still moving downward at Z225 when he first becomes fully visible, and it shows both JFK and JBC starting their upward arm movements simultaneously at Z226.<br>
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I have never seen this feature from any other source. I truly believe that these frames would be enough to convince most skeptics of the validity of the SBT if they would look at them objectively.<br>
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My question is whether you put together the toggling feature between enhanced frames yourself or did you discover them from another source?<br>
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If these are your creation and only available on your website, I would hope there would be a way to show these to a wider audience. If you got these from another source, is it one that is widely available to the public at large?<br>
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If there was a way to show these clips to a much wider audience than the people who frequent these discussion groups, I think it could be a game changer regarding public perception of the assassination.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Hi John,<br>
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The toggling (or looped) Zapruder Film clips that I have on many of my webpages are clips that I downloaded many years ago (thank goodness). However, they were not "created" by me specifically.<br>
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I think I got them from Bill Miller when he and I were both posting at Debra Conway's JFK-Lancer forum. Which means that I probably initially downloaded them prior to the Summer of 2005, because that's when I was tossed out the Lancer door by Conway.<br>
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Bill Miller, btw, is/was a conspiracy theorist, which is kind of ironic. (And I think Mr. Miller has since passed away.)<br>
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I'm actually a little fuzzy concerning the exact <i>individual</i> source for <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/sbt-clips.html">these excellent toggling Z-Film clips</a></b> that I love to prop up (as do you, John) to illustrate the viability of the Single-Bullet Theory. But I'm almost positive the clips did originate at the now-defunct JFK-Lancer forum.<br>
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I have stated in the past that if I had ever had a chance to show those looped Z-Film clips to John and Nellie Connally, I think I could have probably made SBT believers out of both of them.<br>
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No hardline conspiracy theorist will ever be convinced by those clips, however. And for proof of that, all you need to do is click on <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html">this link here</a></b>, which features a few of the <i>Education Forum's</i> CTers inventing brand-new ways with which to bury themselves in further "denial" when it comes to what they are seeing in those Zapruder Film clips.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GIL JESUS SAID:</span></b><br>
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[John Corbett] is convinced there was a "bulge" in Connally's coat caused by a bullet, although he can't prove it.<br>
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He's convinced Connally's arm moving upward was caused by a bullet, although he can't prove it.<br>
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Corbett believes in things that can't be proven. Speculations made by David Von Pein.<br>
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Could Connally's movements have been caused by something other than a bullet?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Is it possible for the anti-SBTers to exhibit <b>MORE</b> denial than the examples displayed <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html">here</a></b>? It will, indeed, be difficult for Gil Jesus and Ben Holmes to top the hilarious and absurd excuses for ignoring the SBT that can be found at that link above, but we must never underestimate the "denial" power that exists within every JFK conspiracy fantasist.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/n7P7Dwp2iWo/m/2qkGhI2aAAAJ">December 14, 2023</a><br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/opO2j7gHsE0/m/sdiUnBigAAAJ">December 14, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29963-finish-the-sentence-re-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=523502">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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According to Dale Myers' book <i>"With Malice"</i> (1998 Edition) [Page 650; Endnote #800], Myers had "contact" with George M. Doughty on March 14, 1996, which was four years after Doughty had suffered a stroke. This "contact", as Myers refers to it in his book (as opposed to an "interview"), was three pages in length (when put in transcript form) and was evidently mostly in reference to the mysterious "Wallet" issue. I'm not sure if Myers ever talked to Doughty about <b><a href="https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11653#relPageId=8">placing his initials</a></b> on one of the bullet shells found near the Tippit murder scene.<br>
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More importantly....<br>
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If you turn to Page 267 of <i>"With Malice"</i> (1998 version), you'll find photos (taken by Dale Myers <i>himself</i>) of the bullet shell that has the initials of Captain George M. Doughty scratched into it. Quoting from Page 267 of Myers' book (1998 Edition):<br>
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<b><i><span style="font-size:129%;">"FBI Exhibit Q76 .... This Winchester-Western hull was identified by Dallas crime lab Captain George M. Doughty as the hull found by Barbara J. Davis. Three sets of markings are visible on the inside rim of the hull, including Doughty's initials, "GD" in script. Three sets of FBI related initials -- JH, CK, and RF -- are on the outside of the hull."</span></i></b><br>
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So, as we can see from the above book excerpt, Dale Myers <b>himself</b> actually <b>saw</b> Captain Doughty's initials etched into the bullet shell in question.<br>
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The photos of the "Q76" shell that appear in Myers' book are, unfortunately, not distinct enough to clearly make out the "GD" initials that Dale says appear (in script) on the inside rim of that shell.<br>
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And since there are many conspiracy theorists who seem to enjoy calling Mr. Myers an outright liar when it comes to lots of stuff he has written about J.D. Tippit's murder, I'm guessing that those CTers must also think Myers was telling a tall tale about seeing Doughty's initials with his own eyes on bullet shell Q76.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29963-finish-the-sentence-re-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=523628">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But, Greg, in <i>this particular case</i> (the Tippit murder case), wouldn't you agree that it's much <b>(MUCH!)</b> more likely that the ballistics evidence is just simply telling us the TRUTH, and that it was OSWALD who killed Officer J.D. Tippit....and it was OSWALD'S revolver that fired the fatal bullets into Tippit's body....and it was OSWALD who was really the one who was seen dumping shells out of his gun as he fled the scene of the crime on Tenth Street --- versus believing that all of the witnesses were either mistaken or lying or coerced or whatever else AND that the bullet shells were switched by the police to frame an <i>innocent</i> Oswald?<br>
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And in THIS case especially---the case where a local police officer has just been shot dead---don't you have a particularly difficult time believing that <b>anyone</b> in the Dallas Police Department would have had <i><b>any desire at all</i></b> to participate in some kind of a frame-up against an innocent Oswald, which would automatically mean those officers participating in such a frame-up would be deliberately allowing the real killer of their brother officer to get away scot-free?<br>
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Isn't all of that "frame-up" stuff rather hard to swallow in THIS (Tippit) case particularly? I sure think it is.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Greg Doudna's <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29963-finish-the-sentence-re-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=523628">wild and fantastic (and, IMO, crazy) theory</a></b> revolving around Mr. Curtis LaVerne "Larry" Crafard (not "Craford", as explained in the last paragraph of <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0189b.htm">Crafard Exhibit No. 5226</a></b>) made me want to read Crafard's complete Warren Commission testimony for the first time. It's quite a roller coaster ride of a read (starting at <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh13/html/WC_Vol13_0206b.htm">13 H 402</a></b>).<br>
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The long and rambling life story of this drifter named Larry Crafard, which the Warren Commission's Leon Hubert and Burt Griffin probed for hours on end for three days (<b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/crafard.htm">April 8-10, 1964</a></b>) and which takes up nearly 200 pages in WC volumes 13 and 14, could have been featured on <i>The Edge Of Night</i>, <i>Guiding Light</i>, and <i>As The World Turns</i> all at the same time, because this guy's constant travels and dozens of different jobs (not to mention a wife who left him twice, and gave birth to Larry's baby boy---<b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh13/html/WC_Vol13_0211b.htm">or did she?</a></b>) could probably fill up all three of those soap operas all at once.<br>
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Why on Earth all of the details surrounding Crafard's entire life <i>prior</i> to November 1963 were things that Mr. Hubert and Mr. Griffin deemed necessary to place into the Warren Commission's official record, I really have no idea.<br>
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Incredibly, Crafard's testimony consumes nearly <i>seven times</i> the number of pages than that of JFK's chief autopsy physician, Dr. James Humes. Humes' testimony takes up only 29 pages in total. Crafard = 197 pages. Unbelievable.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29963-finish-the-sentence-re-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=523680">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yes, you're right, Greg. I was mistaken about something I read about Crafard on Page 247 of Vincent Bugliosi's book. That page is in the middle of Vince's chronology of events for "Sunday, November 24", but Bugliosi suddenly goes back to talking about the events of Saturday on that page. And that's when the subject of Crafard leaving Dallas comes up.<br>
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But it was my error this time, and not Bugliosi's. Vince has it right in his book. Crafard left town on Saturday, Nov. 23rd.<br>
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Sorry about the mistake, Greg.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29963-finish-the-sentence-re-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=523771">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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$13.87 <b>+</b> $0.23 (bus) <b>+</b> $1.00 (cab) <b>=</b> $15.10<br>
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Mr. BALL -- "You let him on the bus, and he paid his fare, how much is that fare?"<br>
Mr. McWATTERS -- "It is 23 cents."<br>
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The price of a vending machine Coke was 5 cents thru 1959. Then it went up to 10 cents. So Oswald probably left Ruth Paine's house on Nov. 22 with $15.20 in his pocket.<b>*</b><br>
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<b>*</b> Which assumes he bought just one Coke that day, and it also assumes he didn't merely swipe a bottle of Coke off of one of the tables in the second-floor lunchroom right after his encounter with Officer Baker, instead of buying one himself, which is quite possible, I suppose. I've seen photos of the lunchroom in which we can see bottles of Coke left on the tables ----> such as <b><a href="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xFJYXCnA0Ns/UqPRMW-4PyI/AAAAAAAAxWk/TTmPNc84J8A/s1600/Lunchroom-On-Second-Floor-Of-TSBD--002.jpg">HERE</a></b> and <b><a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vssIEB88dx0/UqPRMbpKhaI/AAAAAAAAxWo/RM4R5zDQnZ4/s1600/Lunchroom-On-Second-Floor-Of-TSBD.jpg">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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Here's an interesting hunk of trivia concerning Coca-Cola [copied from <b><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_price_of_Coca-Cola_from_1886_to_1959">this Wiki page</a></b>]:<br>
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<b><i><span style="font-size:114%;">The Coca-Cola Company sought ways to increase the five cent price, even approaching the U.S. Treasury Department in 1953 to ask that they mint a 7.5 cent coin. The Treasury was unsympathetic. In another attempt, The Coca-Cola Company briefly implemented a strategy where one in every nine vending machine bottles was empty. The empty bottle was called an "official blank". This meant that, while most nickels inserted in a vending machine would yield cold drinks, one in nine patrons would have to insert two nickels in order to get a bottle. This effectively raised the price to 5.625 cents. Coca-Cola never implemented this strategy on a national scale.</span></i></b><br>
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I can certainly see why the Coke Company never followed through with that spiteful strategy of literally stealing an extra nickel from 11% of its vending machine customers by dropping an empty bottle into their hands. I have a hard time believing the company would have even considered such a deceptive act of thievery. Customers wouldn't have stood still for only getting what they paid for 9 times out of 10. And can you imagine a 7.5-cent coin?! Just think of the mess that would have caused for all of the nation's cashiers. They'd have to find a way to give back 2.5 cents change for a 5-cent purchase. What a nightmare! 😁 <br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29963-finish-the-sentence-re-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=523806">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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It's fun to play around with stuff like this from time to time, isn't it?<br>
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Here's another question for you to ponder, Gregory....<br>
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If, as you have suggested, Oswald purchased a movie ticket at the Texas Theater, then why wasn't the ticket stub found on his person after his arrest? And I can only assume that all Texas Theater patrons are, indeed, given a stub after their tickets are torn by somebody at the door who does that sort of thing, like we find at most U.S. theaters. Which, I guess, brings up another question: If Oswald didn't buy a ticket, how did he manage to slip past the "ticket taker" who should have been posted just inside the front door? ~shrug~<b>*</b><br>
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<b>*</b> And the "ticket taker" on 11/22/63 would have been Butch Burroughs (who also sold the candy and popcorn at the theater)....<br>
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<b>Mr. BALL -- "During the afternoon of the week, do you take tickets too?"<br>
Mr. BURROUGHS -- "Yes, I take tickets every day."</b><br>
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<b>Mr. BALL -- "If anybody comes in there without a ticket, what do you do, run them off?"<br>
Mr. BURROUGHS -- "I make it a point to stop them and ask them to go out and get a ticket. I just failed to see him when he slipped in."</b><br>
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Oswald, of course, if he had purchased a ticket, could have just thrown his stub in a trash can inside the theater. But I'm wondering why he'd want to do that?<br>
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Because by keeping the ticket stub, he could then prove that he didn't "sneak" into the theater without paying. Which would certainly make him look at least a little bit less guilty of any crime --- because by simply being willing to take the extra time and pay for the cheap ticket at the outside box office, it makes him look a bit less desperate to get off the sunny streets in order to get inside that dark theater as fast as he possibly can get in there.<br>
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But if he didn't pay for that movie ticket (which I certainly don't think he did), it does indeed make him look mighty anxious (desperate perhaps?) to get off that police-filled Jefferson Boulevard and inside the darkened theater as quickly as possible.<br>
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And why would Lee Harvey Oswald be so anxious (even desperate perhaps?) to get inside that movie theater at about 1:40 PM CST on November 22, 1963?<br>
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The answer to that last question is, in my opinion, fairly obvious.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29963-finish-the-sentence-re-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=523506">December 18-21, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I've become interested lately in the contradiction that exists in the various media reports and Internet articles relating to the second of the two assassination attempts against President Gerald Ford which occurred within 17 days of each other in September of 1975.<br>
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We all know that in the 2nd attempt on Ford's life (on September 22, 1975), a 45-year-old woman named Sara Jane Moore did manage to fire her pistol at the President in San Francisco, and all of the initial reports that I have seen (such as the newspaper seen below) indicate that only one single shot was fired from Moore's gun.<br>
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And there's also an audio recording of the shooting (via the CBS Radio Network), which can be heard <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzEbCwH8buS1NEoyWFN2aVg0UE0/view?resourcekey=0-cLc_2enMnQygwG-izyOWrw">HERE</a></b>. In that audio recording, one gunshot can clearly be heard, but no more than one is heard.<br>
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But there are some people out there writing articles who evidently are of the opinion that Sara Jane Moore fired <b>two</b> shots at President Ford.<br>
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I think a lot of the articles that I've seen on the Internet that are claiming "two shots" have derived their information, in large part, from <b><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Gerald_Ford_in_San_Francisco">this Wikipedia page</a></b>, which claims that the cab driver who was injured in the groin during the shooting was positively struck by a "second shot" fired by would-be assassin Moore. But the injury to the bystander could have been caused by the ONLY shot fired by Moore. A second shot is probably not required.<br>
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Based on the audio recording I linked to above, I favor just one single shot being fired by Moore. Because if a second gunshot had actually been fired from that very same weapon, I cannot fathom how the sound of that shot would not have been captured by the CBS Radio microphone that managed to easily capture the very loud noise caused by the first blast.<br>
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So, similar to the long-debated question of <i><b>How many shots did Lee Harvey Oswald really fire?</i></b>....<br>
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I'd like to now ask:<br>
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How many shots did Sara Jane Moore fire? One or two?<br>
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Also See:<br>
<b><i><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2018/03/gerald-ford-assassination-attempts.html">http://dvp-video-audio-archive/Gerald Ford Assassination Attempts</a></i></b><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GARY AGUILAR SAID <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhl17sQtAqQ0j74aT7UU9BWMYDX_9Z0WEfuUSqfgqSxu8Nzoqtmg7O07YyhIPiaFivVAdcXwhqx2f3_YaEKTNu1E7ae5yDWfQKCW21qaUh-es5HjHmus_ok4jGRv_0qh10sjXtSvNyZlIOlbubhQ2LT8GxIho6IhRh6fD9hygB7Mut-3omK-jyYX3sV2j8/s3000-h/Aguilar-Email-Dec-2023.png">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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My, my. How magnificently humorous Mr. Aguilar can be.<br>
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But when Gary's overpowering wit is set aside and the brass tacks of the case are examined (yet again, for the millionth time), nobody can fight the truth that exists in the following authenticated photos, which are photos that depict absolutely no portion of the <b>REAR</b> of JFK's skull <i><b>OR</i></b> scalp that is <b>MISSING</b> or <b>BLOWN OUT</b>.<br>
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Sorry, Gary.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Paula Bosse, the expert blogger when it comes to <i>"All Things Relating To Dallas, Texas"</i>, recently posted the pictures seen below at her <i><b>"Flashback: Dallas"</i></b> website/blog. These 1962 photos depict ads for Jack Ruby's <i>Carousel Club</i> (which was being referred to as <i>"The New Carousel"</i> at the time)....<br>
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A few more <i>Carousel Club</i> advertisements, plus one from Abe Weinstein's <i>Colony Club</i> (Jack Ruby's rival club, also located on Commerce Street), can be seen in Paula Bosse's complete blog post <b><a href="https://flashbackdallas.com/2023/12/18/this-month-in-dallas-aug-sept-1962-the-clubs">here</a></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=523625">December 19, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj57RGCwQ9NNz_-LJkM5VoiLfqErkDA25BYsUhOL8z1ywKAs_DnvwMvcX-vtP2xAM5KqcdHokGZBox1GciAX_qKozVJsJhjtqUY0KsLIE-iNfa7L7QRIwDOBsAXW5CCITggVV8rLGLNtwhql9mlBVp0uBTw0SBswMM7pNHnLrb0NyWqFMxGIld_Z17a-Lo/s775/EF-Larsen-12-26-23.png">THIS</a> AND <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30016-hugh-aynesworth-passing/?do=findComment&comment=524233">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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And since you have "no respect" for Hugh Aynesworth, that means, according to you, that Hugh should <b><i><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj57RGCwQ9NNz_-LJkM5VoiLfqErkDA25BYsUhOL8z1ywKAs_DnvwMvcX-vtP2xAM5KqcdHokGZBox1GciAX_qKozVJsJhjtqUY0KsLIE-iNfa7L7QRIwDOBsAXW5CCITggVV8rLGLNtwhql9mlBVp0uBTw0SBswMM7pNHnLrb0NyWqFMxGIld_Z17a-Lo/s611/EF-Larsen-12-26-23.png">"Burn In Hell"</a></i></b>, is that it Sandy?<br>
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What a ridiculous over-the-top emotion. You should be ashamed of posting such garbage on this forum. (And you, an "admin"/moderator yet. It's disgusting.)<br>
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BTW / FWIW,<br>
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Mr. Aynesworth was always very nice and pleasant and helpful in the few conversations I had with him via <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1_H35yXk1RyTWNInuwfs1_TOOnoP6fUQGSNFiL9bmTD7giVBl6ThOYmNVXr1Ih41Ws1hL9KN_AUmX7fnpxTaT4mD0o_Iulupe5-9TpfI5VGtUXHZ-3gF44k28POewRYDiLitL6tslHSYAvp9S82Nvig1mMIjE1zADeeeO7ob_qKrrRo9h_LbeGCu8Wg4/s900/Hugh-Aynesworth-Email.png">e-mail</a></b>.<br>
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RIP.<br>
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<b><i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Aynesworth">http://Wikipedia.org/Hugh Aynesworth</a></i></b><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30017-a-189-dollar-check-for-lee-harvey-oswald-and-a-189-dollar-check-for-one-of-jfks-secret-service-agents-november-1963-dallasfort-worth/?do=findComment&comment=524243">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30017-a-189-dollar-check-for-lee-harvey-oswald-and-a-189-dollar-check-for-one-of-jfks-secret-service-agents-november-1963-dallasfort-worth/?do=findComment&comment=524256">December 26, 2023</a><br>
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If you'd like to hear Rob Reiner misrepresent the evidence concerning the events surrounding Lee Harvey Oswald's movements on 11/22/63 and the "Coke" and the "Lunchroom Encounter", then <b><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Oak9PCZLY8YJ5oTQTk5uX">CLICK HERE</a></b> to listen to Part 8 of Reiner's <br>10-part <i>"Who Killed JFK?"</i> podcast.<br>
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Anyone who is not familiar with the things that Oswald told the Dallas Police after his arrest, and anybody also unfamiliar with the details concerning the <i>Coca-Cola</i> and <i>Lunchroom Encounter</i> topics, will probably tend to believe the untrue things that Mr. Reiner has uttered in Part 8 of his conspiracy-oriented podcast series, such as when Reiner tells us that Oswald told the police that he was on the <i>second</i> floor of the Book Depository when the President was shot.<br>
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But Oswald most certainly did not tell the police he was on the <i><b>second</i></b> floor at the precise time of the shooting. He specifically told Dallas Police Homicide Captain J.W. Fritz that he had been eating his lunch on the <i><b>first floor</i></b> of the building when JFK's motorcade passed the Depository....<br>
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From Captain Fritz' typewritten report:<br>
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<i><b>"I asked him [Lee Oswald] what part of the building he was in at the time the President was shot, and he said that he was having his lunch about that time on the first floor."</i></b> -- Warren Report; <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0312b.htm">Page 600</a></b><br>
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In his podcast, Reiner has utilized some sleight-of-hand to try and make his podcast listeners think that Oswald <i>must</i> have been located on the <i>second floor</i> all throughout the key minutes <i>before, during, and after</i> the assassination of President Kennedy. Because when Reiner selectively reads this direct quote from the Hosty/Bookhout FBI report that appears on page 613 of the Warren Commission's Final Report....<br>
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<b><i>"[Oswald] went to the second floor where the Coca-Cola machine was located and obtained a bottle of Coca-Cola for his lunch"</i>....</b><br>
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....Mr. Reiner conveniently omitted the very next sentence that is written in that same Hosty/Bookhout report, which is this sentence:<br>
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<i><b>"Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed this building."</i></b> -- Warren Report; <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0319a.htm">Page 613</a></b><br>
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So, as we can see, Oswald's "alibi" wasn't that he was on the <i>second</i> floor when JFK was shot. Oswald claimed he was on the <i>first</i> floor at that time.<br>
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In addition, Mr. Reiner's utilization of the wholly unreliable and inconsistent story of Carolyn Arnold is another sign that Reiner's arguments are mighty weak ones, as I discuss <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1344.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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And Rob Reiner engages in an even bigger and more blatant misrepresentation of the facts when he inaccurately claims that Roy Truly and Marrion Baker saw Lee Oswald <i><b>"sitting in the lunchroom with a Coke in his hand"</b></i>.<br>
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But anyone who knows the true facts relating to the testimony of both Depository Superintendent Roy S. Truly and Dallas Police Officer Marrion L. Baker, knows that Oswald was most definitely not <b>"sitting"</b> when he was seen by Truly and Baker on 11/22/63. He was standing. Plus, neither Truly nor Baker testified that Oswald had a <b>"Coke in his hand"</b>.<br>
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Mr. Reiner, like many other conspiracy theorists worldwide, has merely accepted as fact the long-ago-debunked myth about Oswald holding a Coke during the lunchroom encounter with Baker and Truly.<br>
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Lots of additional facts concerning the <i><b>Lunchroom Encounter</i></b> and <i><b>The Coca-Cola</i></b> and <i><b>Oswald's Whereabouts At 12:30 PM On November 22, 1963</i></b>, sans any speculative conspiratorial spin, can be found at the link below:<br>
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<span style="font-size:134%;"><b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Lee-Harvey-Oswald">DVP's JFK Archives / Index / Lee Harvey Oswald</a></i></b></span><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29911-daily-mail-and-rob-reiner/?do=findComment&comment=524313">December 27, 2023</a><br>
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The 1966 audio file linked below includes a very rare interview with assassination witness Victoria Adams, who is, of course, a witness that a lot of conspiracy theorists love to prop up as "proof" that Lee Harvey Oswald could not possibly have gone down the back stairs of the Book Depository just after the assassination due to the fact that Miss Adams did not see or hear anyone on those stairs when she and Sandra Styles used them to descend from the 4th floor to the 1st floor very shortly after JFK was shot on 11/22/63.<br>
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But the notion that the entire case against Lee Oswald should be flushed down the toilet merely due to the estimated timeline of events as described by Vickie Adams is a very silly notion indeed....as I talk about in great detail on my webpage <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-743.html">LINKED HERE</a></b>.<br>
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I think the most interesting thing that is heard in the 1966 interview with Adams is when she talks about the three mistakes that were made by the Warren Commission during the time she was providing her testimony to the Commission in April of 1964. And the three errors that Adams mentions are things that are completely innocuous and relatively unimportant in nature, with none of the three items dealing with any substantive matters at all.<br>
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And yet, to hear many conspiracy theorists tell it, Victoria Adams was one of the many witnesses who has said she had key portions of her published testimony "altered" or "changed" by the Warren Commission.<br>
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But if that had truly been the case, then why on Earth wouldn't she have said something to Mark Lane and Mort Sahl about that very important fact during her fairly lengthy 1966 interview when she starts talking about the various things that the Commission got wrong in her published testimony?<br>
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But instead of raking the Commission over hot coals for "altering" or "eliminating" some of the things she had actually said during her testimony, she didn't say a single word in her 1966 interview about the Warren Commission altering anything that anyone could possibly consider to be of great value or substance whatsoever. She talked only about three very unimportant things that the Commission stenographer got wrong, which are things that I would classify as merely "typos" and nothing more than that.<br>
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After hearing Vickie Adams' total silence in 1966 when it comes to certain parts of her WC testimony allegedly being "altered" before it was publicly published (relating specifically to Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady), it makes me wonder if this rarely-heard 1966 interview with Victoria Adams has inadvertently debunked (at least in part) yet another conspiracy-flavored myth that has endured for decades. That being: the <i>"Altered Testimony"</i> myth (at least with respect to Vickie Adams' testimony specifically, at any rate).<br>
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And we must keep in mind when listening to Adams speak in this interview that she most certainly doesn't come across as a fan or a supporter of the Warren Commission in any way whatsoever.<br>
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Therefore, I think it's also quite obvious that her complete silence about any alleged "Shelley/Lovelady alterations" during this interview was not brought about as a result of Miss Adams being frightened of what might happen to her if she dared speak out in a negative manner about Earl Warren's Commission.<br>
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This interview with the then-25-year-old Vickie Adams was conducted by Mark Lane and Mort Sahl on November 25, 1966:<br>
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Audio Source: <b><a href="https://rumble.com/v43w4sx-black-op-radio-1197.html">Click Here</a></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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Part 1370 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>November 1—30, 2023</b>. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA POSTED THIS LINK:</span></b><br>
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<b><i><a href="https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jfk-secret-service-agent-paul-landis-makes-a-big-splash-in-2023-ahead-of-the-60th-anniversary-of-the-kennedy-assassination-but-how-credible-is-he">http://KennedysAndKing.com/Vince Palamara's Review Of Paul Landis' Book "The Final Witness"</a></i></b><br>
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Thanks for the link to your Landis book review.<br>
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But I have a big problem with the fact that you have (perhaps unintentionally?) taken a large chunk of my writing and then placed it in your book review as if you had written it yourself. And you've also placed no footnote of any kind after the words that I definitely wrote to indicate the true source of that paragraph.<br>
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The paragraph in question (which was originally written by me at <i>The Education Forum</i> on September 12, 2023 -- <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513558">HERE'S THE E.F. LINK</a></b>) begins with the words <i><b>"The reason for why his total silence is not believable"</i></b>. ---- [<b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgxZLbke-Qo_UAI0TysjRi4uG6bwmEFqX3D4EI7i66v3ywNz5_iMtDv5yJbXXqQMHGRKRqel0kwh1DnsHij32eLOoxHtKUCcPjBYxachobh_l7RZuq5BVlSG-HOGxRwwuKDsDGDEJBdkX4jMz6ve1x_HrCFeGlHnAZQ3F7xjgieyf0dEgyJn6XGu7AWAE/s1920/Palamara-DVP.png">Click</a></b>.] <b>*</b><br>
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<b>*</b> Please note that Joe Bauer, in his <i>Education Forum</i> reply <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29792-new-article-at-kennedys-king-jfk-secret-service-agent-paul-landis-makes-a-big-splash-in-2023but-how-credible-is-he/?do=findComment&comment=518089">here</a></b>, obviously thinks that that particular paragraph (which Bauer himself quoted in his post) was, indeed, written by Vincent Palamara, with Mr. Bauer's reply to much of that paragraph being, <i><b>"Right on Vince!"</i></b><br>
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I understand that mistakes and "source" oversights can happen. They happen to me in my writings too. And you, Vince, say in your book review (via a source note) that you had the help of K.K. Lane in putting together your list of questions for Paul Landis (with the part that I wrote appearing as your last "bullet point" item on that list in your review). So maybe K.K. Lane provided you with my quote for you to use in your review, and you (perhaps?) thought that the quote was something that Lane himself had written??<br>
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Could that be the explanation for why I'm finding a pretty good-sized amount of my written words within an article with only Vince Palamara's name on it??<br>
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Anyway, if you, Vince, would simply add a footnote to my quote that goes directly to <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513558">this EF Forum post</a></b> (or to <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/06/paul-landis.html">this webpage</a></b> from my blog, which contains the same quote plus lots of other informative stuff about the Landis topic), that would satisfy me. And, btw, I'm pleased and flattered that you would want to use some of my written words in your own review. I just don't think it's right to pass those words off as your own. (As I'm sure you'll agree.)<br>
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Thanks, Vince.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29792-new-article-at-kennedys-king-jfk-secret-service-agent-paul-landis-makes-a-big-splash-in-2023but-how-credible-is-he/?do=findComment&comment=518185">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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Thank you, Vince.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518355">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I see we have another indistinct and amorphous blob that is being turned into something that's now being labeled as absolutely definitive and ironclad by conspiracy theorists.<br>
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Pathetic.<br>
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Plus....<br>
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~Grin~<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518356">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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<i>"Reclaiming History"</i> book excerpt (click to enlarge):<br>
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<a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-clRnURH4S0I/WIa7Wh64z5I/AAAAAAABLUo/lDcJL-FbZBkmYe2ikyPs_vmu20BcU63hgCLcB/s2000-h/RH-Excerpts-Regarding-Curtain-Rods.png"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-clRnURH4S0I/WIa7Wh64z5I/AAAAAAABLUo/lDcJL-FbZBkmYe2ikyPs_vmu20BcU63hgCLcB/s885/RH-Excerpts-Regarding-Curtain-Rods.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518372">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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FWIW / FYI / IAI [If Anybody's Interested]....<br>
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<b><a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3326.msg122175.html#msg122175">Here's that full discussion</a></b> from January 2022.<br>
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And it then continues on Page 35 of that thread, <b><a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3326.272.html">here</a></b>.<br>
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Excerpt from that 2022 discussion:<br>
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<b>[DVP Quote On:]</b><br>
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Alan,<br>
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Please tell us what connection there is between the Ruth Paine curtain rods that you seem to be fixated on and the "curtain rods" that Lee Oswald lied about?<br>
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Even with a date discrepancy on the document you've posted many times now, tell us what the connection is.<br>
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Do you think Oswald DID take some rods into the TSBD and then the cops took them back to Ruth's garage?<br>
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Enlighten us all as you answer the proverbial question that can be asked of nearly all conspiracy theorists whenever they start talking about their murky theories----with that question being:<br>
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<i><b>Where are you going with this?</i></b><br>
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<b>[End 2022 Quote.]</b><br>
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And <b><a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3326.msg123560.html#msg123560">here</a></b> is Alan's fabulously speculative reply.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=517971">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Alan,<br>
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Your silliness about the "Exhibit 275" really meaning "27.5 inches" is quite a howler as well.<br>
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(Is the "276" supposed to really indicate "27.6 inches"?)<br>
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The amazing made-up crap from the desks of CTers never ceases to astound us all.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518395">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The odd numbering system occurred for many witness exhibits. Such as:<br>
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The "L.C. Graves Exhibits" begin with number 5003-A.<br>
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And then there's the "Hardin" exhibits, which begin with No. 5125.<br>
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And the "Harrison" exhibits start with #5027.<br>
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Plus a bunch of other oddball starting numbers for other Warren Commission witnesses too. (See <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/contents/wc/contents_wh20.htm">this link</a></b>.)<br>
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So Ruth Paine's exhibits being numbered 275 and 276 is not unusual <b>IN THIS CASE</b> at all.<br>
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Bottom Line: The March 15 date that appears on <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/html/WH_Vol23_0394b.htm">Warren Commission Exhibit No. 1952</a></b> is simply an error. It <b>HAS</b> to be an error, since those curtain rods weren't even retrieved from Ruth Paine's garage until March 23, 1964.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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And <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/contents/wc/contents_wh21.htm">here are many more witness exhibits</a></b> which appear to be just randomly numbered with very high numbers, including the B.G. Patterson exhibits, which begin with #5311. And the Riggs exhibits, which begin with 5128. And then there's the Talbert exhibit series, which begins with numbers 1 and 2, but then jumps to number 5065 for some reason.<br>
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And, btw, the Ruth Paine exhibit numbers jump around too, going from #278-A to #461 and finally to #469 for the last one in the Ruth Paine series.<br>
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So there doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason for the strange numbering system utilized by the Warren Commission for the numbers assigned to the exhibits that have the witness' name attached to them---which is something else I've also never understood. Why didn't the Commission just simply label every exhibit the same way (e.g., CE1, CE2, etc.)? Why did some witnesses warrant having their own names being attached to their exhibits? I've always wondered why that was done. ~shrug~<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518537">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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OK. That explains part of the numbering system (I guess). But then the Ruth Paine exhibits jump from 461 to 469 without apparent reason. What's the reason for that particular jump, Alan?<br>
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And I also can't help but scratch my head and wonder why CE449 and CE459-1 and CE460 weren't labeled as "Ruth Paine Exhibit 449", etc.?<br>
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Quite a confusing numbering system indeed, with some exhibits dealing directly with Ruth Paine materials being straight "CE" numbers and some being labeled with "Ruth Paine Exhibit" numbers.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518548">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Alan Ford thinks that <i><b>"Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 270 is a freak outlier"</i></b> in the Warren Commission's rather odd system of numbering the WC exhibits. And Alan has asked me if I could prove him wrong <b><i>"by finding me one exhibit number anywhere that genuinely compares"</i></b> with Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 270.<br>
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Well, after just a brief search, I was indeed able to find a total of <b>FOUR</b> such WC exhibits, all of which appear in <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/contents/wc/contents_wh21.htm">WC Volume No. 21</a></b>, with none of these four examples having numbers in the 5000s.<br>
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Here are those four examples:<br>
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<b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0005b.htm">Pizzo Exhibits 453A—453C</a></b>.<br>
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<b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0006a.htm">Raigorodsky Exhibits 9—14A</a></b>.<br>
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<b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0007b.htm">Semingsen Exhibit 3001</a></b>.<br>
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<b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0012a.htm">Wilcox Exhibits 3002—3017</a></b>.<br>
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Sorry, Alan. Looks like another crackpot conspiracy theory has just gone sliding down the drain. Better luck next time.<br>
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<b>Note ---</b> The "Pizzo" exhibit numbers shown above aren't just "out of the blue" numbers picked by the Warren Commission (which no doubt will make Alan Ford very happy). The WC, in the Pizzo instance, must have chosen the number "453" in order to match "CE453", which is an exhibit that also surfaces in Mr. Pizzo's WC testimony. So there is a "tie in" there. I tried to find such a tie-in with the other three witnesses mentioned in this post, but I couldn't do it. Mr. Wilcox, for example, certainly has no connection with "CE3002", because CE3002 is Lee Oswald's autopsy report and Mr. Wilcox worked at Western Union Telegraph Company in 1963. So there's no "connection" there at all.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518576">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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No, you've just decided on your own that there's a "3000 club". But there are only TWO witnesses in this "club" (Semingsen and Wilcox). Whereas the "5000 club" has dozens of examples. But there are a mere TWO members of your invented "3000 club" (and both witnesses worked for Western Union).<br>
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Plus: as I said, I see no connection between Semingsen and Wilcox and the corresponding "CE" numbers (3001 thru 3017).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518656">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yes, it is.<br>
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Why didn't the Commission utilize more 5000+ numbers instead of STARTING at 3001 for the Semingsen Exhibit?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518657">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Regarding your [Alan Ford's] non-stop inquiry regarding the 3/15/1964 date on the <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/html/WH_Vol23_0394b.htm">CSSS document(s)</a></b>....<br>
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Yes, Mr. Ford, you now have my official permission to designate my "repeated evasions" regarding that topic as a "tacit admission" on my part that I have no answer for it --- other than to keep repeating my own opinion that it is an (obvious) mistake, since the curtain rods weren't even retrieved by the Warren Commission from Ruth Paine's garage until the night of March 23rd, 1964.<br>
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But, by the same token, <i><b>you cannot explain the March 15th date either</i></b> (with any explanation that approaches anything of a PROVABLE nature, that is).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518682">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Talk about leaping to an unfounded and wholly unsupportable claim! Mr. Ford has sure done that in this discussion (starting <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=517969">here</a></b>).<br>
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Via a series of cloak-and-dagger conspiratorial contortions and outright speculation, Mr. Ford has decided that there <b>WERE</b>, in fact, some curtain rods found in the TSBD after the assassination of JFK, even though the only <i>actual evidence</i> (and testimony) indicates the exact opposite -- i.e., <i>no curtain rods</i> were found in the TSBD (via <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/html/WC_Vol25_0465a.htm">CE2640</a></b>, plus the fact that the police never found a single curtain rod anywhere in the Book Depository Building during their extensive searches of that building for evidence on the weekend of the assassination).<br>
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So what we end up with is more of the usual coming from a conspiracy theorist -- with that "usual" being nothing more that a bunch of <i><b>wishful thinking</i></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518733">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The <b>BIG/HUGE/TREMENDOUS/IMPORTANT</b> difference between JFK conspiracy fantasists and myself is:<br>
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I require a total of <b>0 (Zero)</b> liars (not counting Lee Oswald) in order for my Lone Assassin position to be supported and maintained.<br>
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CTers like Alan Ford, however, require a very large number of people to be telling <i>many</i> lies about various aspects of the evidence connected to the 11/22/63 events in Dealey Plaza and on Tenth Street.<br>
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In just this <i>"Exhibit 275/Curtain Rod"</i> instance alone, the CTers who think it was nothing more than a staged "charade" require several different people to be telling blatant falsehoods about the curtain rod evidence, including Ruth Paine, John Joe Howlett, Albert Jenner, J.C. Day, and (probably) Michael Paine. And it's very likely that CTers would place many other people at the Depository on this particular Liars List too.<br>
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But, as I've said many times in the past, there are a lot of conspiracy theorists who couldn't care less how many people they have to call rotten evil liars in order to try and support their silly theories. It would seem the CTer policy has been (and still remains today): <i><b>The More Liars, The Better</i></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518818">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But in the <i><b>"EXHIBIT NO. 275 / CURTAIN ROD"</i></b> instance, which some CTers are now insisting was all just a "charade", if those CTers are correct, we'd actually have to believe that not only did people in "officialdom" fib/lie out their respective ass cracks, but we'd <b>ALSO</b> have to believe that Ruth Paine (and probably Michael Paine too) were lying about the curtain rods that Ruth said were stored in her garage both <b>BEFORE</b> and <b>AFTER</b> the assassination. And neither Ruth nor Michael are part of the police, the FBI, or "officialdom" in general.<br>
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And regarding the <i><b>"SECOND-FLOOR LUNCHROOM ENCOUNTER"</i></b>, which many many CTers on the Internet now firmly believe <i>NEVER HAPPENED AT ALL</i> .... the liars in that instance would have, just like the "Exhibit 275 Charade", also consisted of a <b>COMBINATION</b> of "officialdom" people telling one lie after another (Marrion Baker) and regular ol' citizens (TSBD Superintendent Roy Truly).<br>
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And then there's the Tippit murder (which many conspiracy theorists believe was committed by someone they are sure was NOT Lee Harvey Oswald) .... with witnesses like Johnny Brewer and Ted Callaway and the Davis girls and William Scoggins all being thrown under the bus and treated like liars and crooks by various CTers over the years. And none of those people I just mentioned can be labelled as being part of "officialdom" at all. They were all just ordinary Dallas citizens in 1963.<br>
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So, again, in the Tippit case, if the CTers are right, it would have been a <i><b>combination</i></b> of ordinary people PLUS various police officials who must have lied through their individual and collective teeth and then they all gathered together in Chief Curry's office at City Hall and decided to join forces to frame an innocent Oswald. It's just flat-out absurd.<br>
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And there are, of course, <i>many</i> additional examples that I could easily cite in order to support my previous (admittedly) tongue-in-cheek comment about <i><b>"The More Liars, The Better"</i></b> motto/mantra that seems to have been embraced in recent years by many Internet conspiracists. But if I were to cite all of those examples in just this one post, I wouldn't get any sleep for the next five days.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN IACOLETTI SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518894">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Better read my quote again, Mr. Conspiracy. I never said there were <i>Zero Liars</i> in the whole case. What I said was this....<br>
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<i><b>"I require a total of 0 (Zero) liars (not counting Lee Oswald) in order for my Lone Assassin position to be supported and maintained."</i></b><br>
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The above statement is certainly still 100% true even with liars like Russo, Hill, and Craig in the mix. I can easily <i>maintain and support</i> my Lone Assassin position even without those three people ever surfacing in any discussion.<br>
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Can CTers maintain and support THEIR position with only THREE measly liars in the mix? Not a chance. You need at least ten times that many (if not more).<br>
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P.S. -- People that I think were just simply "wrong" about something don't go into my "Liars" list. Maybe that's something that CTers like you, John, should learn.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN IACOLETTI SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518906">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I don't accept any of the claims by any of those people, Mr. Conspiracy.<br>
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They were all "wrong", but not necessarily "liars".<br>
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Just like the many Parkland witnesses who said they saw a huge hole in the back of JFK's head. I have never called any of those witnesses liars. But they <i>were</i> all "wrong". And they were <i><b>provably</i></b> wrong too, with the autopsy photographs and X-rays providing the proof (for all time) that they were wrong.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN IACOLETTI SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518910">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The JFK Conspiracy Fantasists have people scheming and plotting and planting and lying and conniving and altering and framing patsies all over the place in this case.<br>
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You think all of those never-ending accusations can be wiped out by replacing all of those terms I just used with the simple word "WRONG"?<br>
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Get real.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518911">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Now you're just making stuff up. There is NO EVIDENCE which points "precisely" to any curtain rods being recovered from the TSBD. None. And your fantasy and cloak-and-dagger crap regarding Paine Exhibits No. 275 & 276 doesn't come <i>close</i> to showing that any rods were found <i><b>IN THE DEPOSITORY</i></b>.<br>
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Why you think otherwise is yet another mystery.<br>
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I have said multiple times that I think the March 15th date on the DPD form is simply an error. Which it so obviously is, when taking into account the totality of the facts surrounding the two curtain rods that were recovered from Ruth Paine's garage on 3/23/64.<br>
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<i>"Reclaiming History"</i> book excerpt (click to enlarge):<br>
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<a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhsDXM2DfUlqktCuZ09nDXqGouIPlF6ypEdsDs4pzkla6KSe9h8akDIZ2KpJlKfpVz1NKVQgTJSHyXqlquRJn31siYb77OvbDIC8vfifrNfyGjk-5FZvBhfp5efgOaSt4LpyH4FQ4NDhclHKXdrOy0nLQ249uSDen4axy2f57FjVMkG4cqqlaiCF45-JAc/s1517/RH-Excerpt-Rods.png"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhsDXM2DfUlqktCuZ09nDXqGouIPlF6ypEdsDs4pzkla6KSe9h8akDIZ2KpJlKfpVz1NKVQgTJSHyXqlquRJn31siYb77OvbDIC8vfifrNfyGjk-5FZvBhfp5efgOaSt4LpyH4FQ4NDhclHKXdrOy0nLQ249uSDen4axy2f57FjVMkG4cqqlaiCF45-JAc/s530/RH-Excerpt-Rods.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=519022">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALAN FORD SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518979">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I think "this little exchange of ours" merely showcases the utter desperation, wishful thinking, and outright speculation that we (of course) have all been accustomed to seeing in virtually every argument put forth by JFK conspiracy theorists since the crime was committed in November of 1963.<br>
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So, thank you, Alan Ford, for being willing to showcase your massive amounts of speculation and your willingness (and eagerness) to call multiple people outright liars, all based on the words "March 15" on one document (plus a copy of said document).<br>
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Another fine (and extraordinarily fun and funny) example of CTer desperation and wishful thinking and speculation in action (re: the SBT) can be found <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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<b><a href="https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49815/?q=curtain rods">Here's another rare DPD image</a></b> concerning the curtain rods, this one featuring a date --- <b>March 25, 1964</b> --- which is a date that is perfectly consistent with the rods having been removed from Ruth Paine's garage on the night of March 23rd:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=519031">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The March 25th date shown in the photo that appears in my last post is consistent with what appears in <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/html/WH_Vol23_0394b.htm">CE1952</a></b>, with that version of the DPD form saying the rods were released to Howlett on March 26.<br>
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Yes, there's a <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgPMntmeTizqVuwobEZNCevKQ8f4VeKY5xkTst6Nytuks41M8nY9y8RbUBIjT16h80aYoDhgHK12zRLrqW00_u66aO6Yfsj372i3bR5JlpvRo7kHZ-6pywFUTzRqiinFtOs-RvjqvnbV_jSDFpGWX5Q3k_qKrIUNBvvbYvtmPOndRo_Fm2dhfbUaPeO/s3000/CE1952-Alternate-Version.png">SECOND copy of the form</a></b> which says March 24 for the release date, which I can't fully explain. Nor can you. It's one of those "unanswerable" anomalies (unless I can locate more documents in the future that can explain why there are separate copies of the same form featuring different dates).<br>
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But it's still quite clear that <b>BOTH</b> forms (the one that says March 24 and the one that says March 26) are referring to the exhibits numbered 275 and 276, which were, of course, the two rods taken from Ruth's house on 3/23.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=518362">November 4-9, 2023</a><br>
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David,<br>
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From your Blog [<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-timeline-part-1.html">"Oswald Timeline; Part 1"</a></b>]:<br>
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<b>[Quoting DVP:]</b><br>
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<i>"It's my belief that Lee Oswald, during this (approx.) 10-minute time period around noon or shortly after, probably went to the west end of the sixth floor (where he had his rifle hidden in the brown bag). Oswald unwraps the rifle at the west end of the sixth floor and assembles the rifle at the west end (hence, Arnold Rowland sees a white man with a rifle at the west end of the building at approx. this time, maybe a little later, 12:15 or so, but keep in mind the approximation of all times)."</i><br>
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I am curious to know why you think LHO assembled the rifle on the 6th floor and around noon?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Mainly because of <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh2/html/WC_Vol2_0089a.htm">Arnold Rowland's observations</a></b>. Despite Vince Bugliosi's belief that Arnold Rowland was a liar (which is a position that I disagree with, although Mr. Rowland probably did embellish and "enhance" his story for his Warren Commission testimony -- <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-914.html#Arnold-Rowland">Click Here</a></b>), we can be pretty certain that Rowland <b>DID</b> see Oswald on the <i><b>WEST</i></b> end of the 6th floor holding a rifle shortly before the assassination.<br>
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<i><b>Barbara</i></b> Rowland, in my view, is the person who actually confirmed that particular fact when <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/html/WC_Vol6_0096a.htm">she testified</a></b> that her husband, Arnold, told her <b>AT THE TIME</b> [on November 22nd in Dealey Plaza] about the man with a gun up in the window.<br>
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So unless <b>BOTH</b> Arnold <i>and</i> Barbara are big fat liars, then Arnold did see a gunman on the west side of the Depository at about 12:15 PM or so. And that gunman was no doubt Lee Harvey Oswald, IMO.<br>
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So that means that LHO <i><b>was</i></b> definitely on the <b>WEST</b> side of the 6th floor, with his Carcano in his hands, at about 12:15. And while trying to construct a scenario for <i><b>why</i></b> Oswald would have been over near that west-end window (which is the opposite end of the 6th floor from where he ultimately chose to shoot JFK from), I put forth the hypothesis that maybe---just maybe---he had assembled the gun somewhere near that west-end window, where he was observed by Rowland.<br>
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And if Oswald did, indeed, choose to stash the disassembled rifle somewhere on the west side of the sixth floor when he got to work that morning (prior to any of the "floor repair crew" arriving at work; with perhaps Oswald not realizing, or forgetting about, the fact that there were going to be TSBD employees working all morning in that west-end area of the sixth floor), then that would mean that LHO would not have had any opportunity to get to his rifle prior to lunchtime and assemble it. Which would mean he would have no choice but to wait until lunchtime and until after all the floor-fixers had vacated the sixth floor entirely.<br>
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My scenario is just a guess, of course. Just like yours, Patrick, is just a guess as well regarding your theory that LHO assembled the gun on the 7th floor (which might very well be true). But my scenario could be true as well. We'll never know for certain, because Mr. Oswald wasn't kind enough to fill in those pre-12:30 details for us before he was himself murdered.<br>
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<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-timeline-part-2.html">Here's my "Oswald Timeline; Part 2"</a></b>, which has a give-and-take between myself and Dale Myers on the subject.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
November 8, 2023<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29769-wesley-buell-frazier-needs-to-be-asked-some-serious-questions/?do=findComment&comment=519223">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I've got an explanation that is 10,000 times "more likely" to be the accurate one when compared to any alternative theory concerning any alleged conspiratorial involvement of Linnie Mae Randle, Ruth Paine, or Buell Wesley Frazier.<br>
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But at this stage in your rapidly developing and accelerating conspiracy-oriented mind, I kind of doubt that my ho-hum explanation would interest you much. But I'll repeat a portion of my thoughts anyway (taken from <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/28210-ruth-paine-on-the-assassination-mrs-paine-film-well-done-but-powerfully-awful/?do=findComment&comment=483545">this 2022 discussion</a></b>):<br>
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<i><b><span style="font-size:120%;">"There's no way everything connected with the way Lee Oswald got his TSBD job could have been planned in advance by a band of CIA-sponsored housewives on Fifth Street in Irving, Texas."</i></b></span> <span style="font-size:120%;"><b>-- DVP; <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/12/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1359.html">December 18, 2022</a></b></span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29769-wesley-buell-frazier-needs-to-be-asked-some-serious-questions/?do=findComment&comment=519262">THIS</a> AND <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29769-wesley-buell-frazier-needs-to-be-asked-some-serious-questions/?do=findComment&comment=519280">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29769-wesley-buell-frazier-needs-to-be-asked-some-serious-questions/?do=findComment&comment=519245">November 11-12, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29837-clint-hill-s-views-in-the-new-edition-of-his-book-five-days-in-november/?do=findComment&comment=519482">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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And we know for a <b>FACT</b>—based on <b><a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lLWqbNL8Zgo/UYraEfUOHfI/AAAAAAAAuis/RtjG5B8TugM/s1600/JFK_Autopsy_Photo_BOH.jpg">this</a></b> and <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0026a.htm">this</a></b> (in tandem)—that both Clint Hill and Paul Landis were 100% dead wrong when they stated that the back of President Kennedy's head was "missing".<br>
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They aren't liars, they're just <i>wrong</i>, like all of the other Back-Of-The-Head ("BOH") witnesses.<br>
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And, very likely, one of the reasons for why most of the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#JFK-Head-Wounds">BOH witnesses</a></b> had a mistaken impression of where the large exit wound on President Kennedy's head was located—<i><b>possibly the #1 primary reason</i></b>—clearly rests in the lap (literally) of First Lady Jackie Kennedy. Because Mrs. Kennedy, without doubt, manipulated and <i>changed</i> the configuration of JFK's head wound while the limousine was speeding to Parkland Hospital. We <i>know</i> that for a fact because Jackie told us so in her <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/jackie-kennedy-testimony.html">Warren Commission testimony</a></b>. She said that during the drive to the hospital, she tried to <i><b>"hold his hair on, and his skull on"</i></b>.<br>
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So, Jacqueline Kennedy, in effect, <i><b>closed up</i></b> the huge gaping hole in the right-front of JFK's head. And she must have done a pretty good job of "closing" it up too, so that the witnesses in Trauma Room No. 1 weren't even aware there was a huge gaping wound in the upper-right part of the President's head. Which left those witnesses staring at a head that was essentially intact (from their point of view).<br>
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So what they mostly saw was the massive amount of blood that was pooling, via gravity, toward the <b>RIGHT-REAR</b> portion of JFK's head, with much of that blood no doubt clinging to the right-rear (occipital) area of the head, giving the false impression that the one and only wound in the President's head was located in the right-rear (occipital) area of the head.<br>
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Incredible, you say?<br>
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Impossible for so many witnesses to be fooled by the closing up of one single flap on the President's head?<br>
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Many people think such a thing was impossible. But what better explanation is there? (And the <i>"Fake Autopsy Photos & X-rays"</i> explanation doesn't come even close to qualifying as a "better" explanation.)<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29837-clint-hill-s-views-in-the-new-edition-of-his-book-five-days-in-november/?do=findComment&comment=519518">November 15, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GARY AGUILAR SAID:</span></b><br>
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I have it on good authority that the Parkland docs piece [<b><i><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tvVucJkUnnUPBiQ3YC1FQMp77lL5FY2o/view">"JFK: What The Doctors Saw"</a></i></b>] will be available for streaming this coming Tuesday [11/14/23] at Paramount+.<br>
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Warren loyalists hate the Parkland doctors, who they regard as so stupid they couldn't tell the anterolateral portion of a human skull from the occipitoparietal portion. <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tvVucJkUnnUPBiQ3YC1FQMp77lL5FY2o/view">This special</a> will no doubt give them even more reason to hate the Dallas doctors.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Basic Fact....<br>
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President Kennedy did <b>NOT</b> have a great-big hole in the <b>BACK (occipital)</b> portion of his head <i><b>UNLESS</i></b> all (or certainly most) of the autopsy photos <b>AND</b> autopsy X-rays <b>AND</b> the Zapruder Film have been faked / forged / altered / fabricated / manufactured.<br>
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The above is just a simple and provable <b>FACT</b> that has existed in this case since the day Kennedy was shot.<br>
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And how could anyone who is in their right mind <i>possibly</i> believe that such massive fakery and alteration actually did take place when it comes to <b>all</b> of those various photographic items of evidence I just mentioned (autopsy photographs <b>+</b> autopsy X-rays <b>+</b> Z-Film)?<br>
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A person who says they believe in such mass fakery is, in my opinion, practically admitting they are insane and ready for a rubber room.<br>
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My $0.02.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">LARRY SCHNAPF SAID:</span></b><br>
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At the very end [of the <i>"What The Doctors Saw"</i> documentary], the doctors agree that the autopsy photos and xrays do not match the injuries they saw in the ER.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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That's good that (some of) the Parkland doctors finally made such an obvious admission.<br>
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We can only shake our heads and wonder why some of the same doctors said exactly the <i>opposite</i> in 1988, when four doctors told a <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/parkland-doctors-on-pbs-tv-in-1988.html">NOVA/PBS audience</a></b> that the autopsy pics that they were looking at for the first time somehow <b>matched and corroborated</b> the big "BOH" blow-out they each said they saw on 11/22 [see the video below]. ~shrug~<br>
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The most ridiculous statement made during the 1988 NOVA special was this preposterous quote that came out of the mouth of Dr. McClelland:<br>
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<i>"I find no discrepancy between the wounds as they're shown very vividly in these photographs and what I remember very vividly."</i> <b>-- Robert McClelland; 1988</b><br>
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~~huge shrug~~<br>
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Here's McClelland's 1988 "hands on" demonstration (and just minutes later he said that the autopsy photos matched this hands-on demonstration [<i><b>"no discrepancy"</i></b>]):<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GARY AGUILAR SAID:</span></b><br>
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Oh, David!<br>
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This shows such desperation.<br>
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McClelland then, and again in the Paramount special, said he thought the photo showing the back of JFK's head to be intact only looked that way because someone, apparently Boswell, was pulling the scalp forward over the large rearward skull defect that he said was there, out of which he saw cerebellum fall out.<br>
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Why do you not tell the whole story, David?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Why won't <i>you</i> tell the "whole story", Gary? And part of that "whole story" is the FACT that McClelland's "pulled-up scalp" fairy tale is utter nonsense and just plain idiotic (even from a CTer POV). (Not to mention the fact that it's physically impossible.)<br>
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Why do I say that?<br>
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Because in order for McClelland's crazy "scalp" theory to be accurate, we'd actually have to believe that Kennedy's <b>RIGHT-REAR SCALP</b> was magically left <i>untouched and undamaged</i> by the same bullet that ripped a huge hole in the <b>RIGHT-REAR SKULL</b> of Kennedy....and then on top of that impossibility, we'd also have to believe that JFK's scalp had been "reflected" back on his head while he was at Parkland, in order for McClelland to be able to see any big hole that was <i>underneath</i> the intact scalp.<br>
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And neither of those things is the slightest bit believable. Kennedy's scalp could not have been totally damage-free <i><b>IF</i></b> there had been a huge "BOH" hole in the occipital area of his head. And, of course, the scalp was certainly not "reflected" (or peeled back) off the skull while Kennedy lay on his stretcher at Parkland Hospital.<br>
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Why various conspiracy theorists can't see the illogic that exists within Dr. Robert McClelland's "pulled-up scalp" theory is beyond me. Because the built-in "impossibility" of such a nutty theory is readily apparent to me.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GARY AGUILAR SAID:</span></b><br>
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David,<br>
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This [below] is the correct orientation of the back head photo, and it's obvious that someone, apparently Boswell, is standing and holding JFK's scalp over the back of his head. This is what McClelland is talking about, as if it weren't already glaringly obvious:<br>
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While I understand that you place great weight on official claims, let's not neglect that all three of JFK's pathologists, both Stringer and Reibe, as well as Saundra Spencer, agree autopsy photos are missing. In other words, the Dallas docs aren't the only ones saying there are problems with JFK's autopsy photos.<br>
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There's much more to the story, so please don't expect me, or anyone who's rational, to accept that, uniquely in the Kennedy case, the US Govt is telling us the truth, something you apparently desperately need to believe.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You must be kidding me, Gary!<br>
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When evaluating Dr. McClelland's absurd "pulled-up scalp" theory, you actually think it makes <i>any</i> difference whatsoever which way the BOH autopsy photo is oriented? That's crazy.<br>
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Because no matter which way you turn that photo---sideways or any other direction---the scalp in the back of President Kennedy's head is <i>still</i> going to be 100% intact (except, of course, for the small entry wound in the cowlick area, which is where Lee Harvey Oswald's 6.5-millimeter Carcano bullet entered JFK's head).<br>
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Which means, of course, regardless of how the BOH photo is positioned, Dr. McClelland's theory about the right-rear <b>SCALP</b> of JFK remaining (somehow and in some mysterious way) completely intact and undamaged, even though (at the same time) the <b><i>"right posterior portion of the skull had been extremely blasted"</i></b> [Warren Commission Testimony of Dr. Robert N. McClelland at <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/html/WC_Vol6_0022a.htm">6 H 33</a></b>], will remain a completely untenable (and impossible) theory to swallow.<br>
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So, Gary, I don't see how turning the autopsy picture (or the Dox drawing) sideways helps to rehabilitate the late Dr. McClelland's credibility concerning this matter one bit.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GARY AGUILAR SAID:</span></b><br>
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And while you're working on your rejoinder, please explain how the following credible witnesses from Parkland, who wrote their accounts on 11-22-63, happened to be soooo uniformly wrong (to say nothing of the many other Parkland and autopsy witnesses who said much the same thing):<br>
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<b>Page 518:</b> Kemp Clark, MD: <i>"There was a large wound in the right occipito-parietal region ... There was considerable loss of scalp and bone tissue. Both cerebral and cerebrellar tissue was extruding from the wound."</i> -- [Undated, typed noted]<br>
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<b>Page 520:</b> <i>"The other wound had avulsed the calvarium and brain tissue present with diffuse oozing ... attempt to control slow oozing from cerebral and cerebellar tissue via packs instituted."</i> -- [11-22-63, 16:20, Charles J. Carrico, MD]<br>
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<b>Page 521:</b> <i>"A large wound of the right posterior cranium was noted."</i> -- [Malcolm O. Perry, MD, 16:30, 11-22-63]<br>
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<b>Page 523:</b> <i>"The temporal and occipital bones were missing and the brain was lying on the table."</i> -- [Charles Baxter, MD, Assistant Prof of Surgery, 11-22-63]<br>
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<b>Page 524-525:</b> In a hand-written hospital note: <i>"A large 3x3 cm remnant of cerebral tissue present....there was a smaller amount of cerebellar tissue present also....There was a large wound beginning in the right occiput extending into the parietal region .... Much of the skull appeared gone at the brief examination."</i> -- [Kemp Clark, MD, 11-22-63, 16:15 hrs.]<br>
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<b>Page 529-530:</b> <i>"There was a great laceration on the right side of the head (temporal and occipital), causing a great defect in the skull plate so that there was herniation and laceration of great areas of the brain, even to the extent that the cerebellum had protruded from the wound."</i> -- [M.T. Jenkins, MD, 11-22-63, 16:30]<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Gary<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Although this explanation isn't exactly totally satisfying to me either, the best answer that I have been able to come up with to the 60-year-old head-scratcher of how the Parkland Hospital witnesses could have all been so <i>"uniformly wrong"</i> is — (drum roll) — <b>Jackie Kennedy</b>.<b>*</b><br>
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<b>*</b> As I explained (coincidentally) just four days ago in a discussion at <i>The Education Forum</i> — <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29837-clint-hill-s-views-in-the-new-edition-of-his-book-five-days-in-november/?do=findComment&comment=519518">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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Also....<br>
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With respect to Dr. Baxter's specific comment in which he said <b><i>"occipital bones were missing"</i></b>:<br>
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That specific observation by Baxter is provably wrong, because the X-ray pictured below (which was authenticated by the HSCA) proves for all time that there was absolutely <b>NO</b> occipital bone "missing" from the skull of John F. Kennedy when the autopsy was done on his body at Bethesda on November 22, 1963:<br>
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<img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H_fBxmWdSk4/UcpVuTy7TVI/AAAAAAAAu6o/4ziEd8x0xng/s1600/JFK-Head-Xray.jpg"><br>
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Related "X-ray" discussion <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/jfk-x-ray.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">LARRY SCHNAPF SAID:</span></b><br>
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Gary and DVP,<br>
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Is this a question about scalp vs skull bone?<br>
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My understanding is that the scalp was lacerated but not a significant amount was missing as opposed to skull fragments. The images of the skull fragments that I have seen don’t seem to have any hair on them. If they had hair on them that would suggest presence of scalp. So if the scalp was largely intact—albeit lacerated by skull fragments—could the scalp be stretched over an underlying wound caused by missing skull?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Main point (still) being (re: McClelland's crazy theory)....<br>
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The <b>SCALP</b> in the back of JFK's head was <i><b>NOT</i></b> "blown out" (nor was it "lacerated"). Therefore, how would it even have been <i>possible</i> for McClelland (or anybody else at Parkland) to see any large "blow-out" at the <b>REAR</b> of the <b>SKULL</b>? Such an observation at Parkland was simply not possible, as the <i>THREE</i> different photographic items shown below adequately prove for all time, with those 3 items showing that there was no "missing" <b>SKULL</b> or <b>SCALP</b> at the right-rear (occipital) area of Kennedy's cranium.<br>
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Conspiracy theorists cannot get around these facts without resorting to the proverbial <i>"Fake Pictures AND Z-Film"</i> argument.<br>
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<img src="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-N8qLfNk-5hY/VhRD_qSOzRI/AAAAAAABHio/nwmGzdYQ8Gc/s530/JFK-Head-Wound-Photographic-Comparison.png"><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
November 11-20, 2023<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">TONY KROME SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29843-new-material-uncovered-ryder-lived-opposite-the-randles/?do=findComment&comment=519785">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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And that <b><i>same</b></i> 6th-floor assassination weapon was <b>ALSO</b> described (at various times on Nov. 22 and 23) as a German Mauser, a 30-30 rifle, and a Japanese weapon (and possibly even more inaccurate descriptions). They can't <b>ALL</b> be the right description, can they?<br>
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So if you have a desire to cling to bad information based on the early media errors, then, yes, you can easily "create" your own conspiracy theory. It's easy to do that kind of CT "creating". All you need to do is pick one of <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2018/03/news-media-errors-november-22-24-1963.html">these many media mistakes</a></b> and run with it as if it were the unvarnished 100% truth. But why anybody would want to do something so foolish is beyond me.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">TONY KROME SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29843-new-material-uncovered-ryder-lived-opposite-the-randles/?do=findComment&comment=519787">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Indeed, it is "a big mix up".<br>
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Because....<br>
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We know that "Oswald" did not own an "Argentine Mauser".<br>
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And....<br>
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We know that CE139 is not an "Argentine Mauser" either.<br>
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I'm sure that many CTers, though, think it was merely a case of the <i>Oswald Patsy Framers</i> just being idiots and morons when they decided to plant an <b>ARGENTINE MAUSER</b> at the crime scene, even though those plotters had to know that the Oswald they were framing owned a <b>MANNLICHER-CARCANO</b>.<br>
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A brilliant strategy indeed.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29843-new-material-uncovered-ryder-lived-opposite-the-randles/?do=findComment&comment=519786">November 16, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Wanna see a <i>truly</i> "doctored" photograph?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRTcgUEDWayrtCVKgs9pMP-ubgpUs_ZlbrsIxTBbHrfLEm_ewhVgw8mVBcmjjFBxPuA84fmFNs-fX6UqRAAGmIlsVKpLHQ0Y9PlMOzjWmQwRouZ74VfWcHfuokhrVx94opayyScoK0zL0ZrgHm0nmj9UaTk2oi1CzFD7eIop4O4XB4-hnj2fZS-ZCA8fw/s3000/Altered-Altgens-Photo.jpg">Click Here.</a></b> (Also pictured below.)</span><br>
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It's an obviously altered and doctored version of one of James Altgens' Dealey Plaza pictures which appeared on the front page of <i>The Sun-Herald</i> in Sydney, Australia, on November 24, 1963.<br>
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What the Sydney newspaper editors did, incredibly, is that they turned a portion of the bottom of a street light pole into the head of JFK. And the newspaper people also totally eliminated the entire light pole from the photo.
The original and unaltered photograph can be seen <b><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2012/06/kennedy-gallery-041.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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I know that some newspaper and magazine publishers have attempted to "enhance" various assassination-related pictures, but I don't think I've ever seen such a blatant and outright distortion of a photograph than that which we see in <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRTcgUEDWayrtCVKgs9pMP-ubgpUs_ZlbrsIxTBbHrfLEm_ewhVgw8mVBcmjjFBxPuA84fmFNs-fX6UqRAAGmIlsVKpLHQ0Y9PlMOzjWmQwRouZ74VfWcHfuokhrVx94opayyScoK0zL0ZrgHm0nmj9UaTk2oi1CzFD7eIop4O4XB4-hnj2fZS-ZCA8fw/s1719/Altered-Altgens-Photo.jpg">this</a></b> Sydney newspaper example. It's shameless and inexcusable (IMO).<br>
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It's possible, I suppose, that perhaps other newspaper publishers have also used that "altered" version of the picture which erases the light pole entirely and then "adds in" what they want their readers to believe is the head of the mortally wounded President, but I don't recall seeing any other papers using it.<br>
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Here's the doctored image (with the "doctoring" extending to other parts of the picture too -- such as the accentuated markings around Jackie's pillbox hat). Click to enlarge:<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=519925">November 17, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID FREE SAID:</span></b><br>
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Hello David,<br>
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I’ve been admiring your JFK work from a distance for a while now. (Actually from a very long distance: I live in Australia). I’m a big fan and user of your <b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/DavidVonPeinJFK">JFK YouTube channel</a></b>—it really is an invaluable resource for any serious student of the case. I especially love those old radio and campus debates from the mid-to-late 60s—the ones featuring Wesley Liebeler, Mark Lane etc. They’ve been very handy in helping to shape and inform the stuff that I have been writing about the assassination myself. And I’m also a big fan of <b><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1939521238">the book</a></b> you co-wrote with Mel Ayton. If only there were more books like it!<br>
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You might enjoy <b><a href="https://www.smh.com.au/culture/movies/sixty-years-on-has-jfk-conspiracy-theory-finally-run-out-of-steam-20231113-p5ejja.html">this article</a></b> that I’ve just published in <i>The Sydney Morning Herald</i> to coincide with the 60th anniversary. My thesis is that after 60 years, it might finally be time to declare that JFK conspiracy theory is officially dead—and that it never delivered any genuine or lasting breakthroughs, and achieved nothing except to pave the way for more damaging forms of conspiratorial thinking. Of course, there is no info in the article that you won’t already be very familiar with, given your expertise about the case. But you may be amused by one or two of the jabs I take at the conspiracy theorists.<br>
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I’m currently releasing a podcast about the assassination called <b><i><a href="https://ghostsofdallas.podbean.com">“Ghosts of Dallas”</a></i></b>. There’s a fair amount of archival audio in the podcast, most of which I have got from your channel—and I’ve given you and the channel a suitably appreciative shout-out on the podcast’s webpage and in the show notes etc.<br>
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Mainly I’m trying to tell the “epic story of JFK conspiracism” in a thorough and perhaps definitive way for the general listener who doesn’t know about stuff like the Walker assassination attempt, the curtain rods story, Jack Ruby and Sheba, etc, etc.<br>
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It’s funny, when we were pitching the podcast to the youngish American hotshots who commission projects for the podcast studios, several of them candidly admitted that they knew precisely nothing about the details of Kennedy’s assassination, but still tended to suspect that there had been some kind of conspiracy! Anyway, it’s people like that who I’m trying to reach and inform with this podcast.<br>
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Anyway, thanks again for your superb JFK video and audio archive. It’s invaluable for all of us who are engaged in the ongoing task of “reclaiming history” on this subject.<br>
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All the best,<br>
David Free<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Hi David!<br>
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Thanks so much for your nice e-mail today. I appreciate the kind words. And I will most certainly read your article that you linked to, and I definitely look forward to also listening to each installment of your podcast regarding the JFK assassination. It should be a refreshing change from all of the non-stop "conspiracy" talk that I am constantly encountering on the JFK forums that I frequent. Thanks (in advance) for producing such an audio podcast.<br>
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Very best regards,<br>
David Von Pein<br>
November 17, 2023<br>
[Via E-Mail]<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Video Recommendation....<br>
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The "Oral History" interview with Vivian Castleberry linked below is an absolute treat. I watched it for the first time today [November 21st, 2023] after learning that it is one of Stephen Fagin's favorite programs he has ever done for <i>The Sixth Floor Museum's</i> ongoing Oral History project. (Fagin is now the curator of the Museum.)<br>
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And after just one viewing, this 2004 interview with this remarkable lady (who was 82 years old at the time) now ranks as one of my favorite assassination-related interviews as well:<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
November 21, 2023<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I just listened to <b><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1lvGB3IJsd7vuIV0twDZHr">Episode 3</a></b> of Rob Reiner's new 10-part podcast (<i>"Who Killed JFK?"</i>) --- and it's just about what I would expect from conspiracy theorists, with all the usual Conspiracy Myths being recycled and rehashed for a new audience here in November of 2023, including the myth about the Warren Commission being forced to accept the Single-Bullet Theory when the WC found out about James Tague. Mr. Reiner and company, as usual, totally ignore (or failed to read and comprehend) <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0071a.htm">Page 117 of the Warren Report</a></b>, which clearly states that the Commission had considered multiple possibilities to explain Mr. Tague's slight cheek injury.<br>
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And then there's the usual CT denial with respect to what can clearly be seen going on with Governor Connally at frames 224 to 230 of the Zapruder Film, with Mr. Reiner assuring his listeners that Connally wasn't reacting to his bullet wounds until well after JFK was reacting to his (which is just a flat-out falsehood).<br>
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Etc., etc....<br>
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So, if you want to listen to this tripe linked below, just be prepared for the usual conspiracy-flavored conjecture and speculation.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29911-daily-mail-and-rob-reiner/?do=findComment&comment=520699">November 24, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29842-jfk-what-the-doctors-saw-validates-there-was-no-exit-hole-in-the-back-of-jfks-head/?do=findComment&comment=521009">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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To use one of Pat's favorite expressions here ---- <i>Yikes!</i><br>
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You must be joking with that last post of yours, Pat. Because the doctors in the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/parkland-doctors-on-pbs-tv-in-1988.html">1988 NOVA/PBS program</a></b> most certainly did <i>not</i> say they had been "mistaken" when it comes to the location of the large wound they observed in JFK's head.<br>
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None of them said to the camera something like this:<br>
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<i>I was mistaken. The large wound was, indeed, to the RIGHT-FRONT of the President's head, just as the autopsy photos show. Therefore, I must have been mistaken.</i><br>
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But instead of saying something like the above, the Parkland doctors said things like this:<br>
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<i><b>"I don't see evidence of any alteration of his wound in these pictures from what I saw in the emergency room."</i></b><br>
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and....<br>
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<i><b>"Nothing that I've seen would make me think it had been changed from what happened that day."</i></b><br>
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and....<br>
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<i><b>"Looking at these photos, they're pretty much as I remember President Kennedy at the time."</i></b><br>
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and....<br>
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<i><b>"I find no discrepancy between the wounds as they're shown very vividly in these photographs and what I remember very vividly."</i></b><br>
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Crazy!<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29842-jfk-what-the-doctors-saw-validates-there-was-no-exit-hole-in-the-back-of-jfks-head/?do=findComment&comment=521013">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yikes (again)!!<br>
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You, Pat, actually said what you just said above even though you <i>know</i> that two of the doctors in '88 did admit they were "mistaken" (or in "error") with respect to seeing the cerebellum.<br>
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So if they were ready to admit they were "mistaken" on that issue, then why not admit (on camera) that they were mistaken about the location of the wound?<br>
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Plus....<br>
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Dr. McClelland's laughable "pulled-up scalp" explanation is the proof right there that he certainly was <b>NOT</b> admitting (in any fashion) that he was mistaken about the big BOH wound he has always said he saw. Because both <b>BEFORE</b> and <b>AFTER</b> he went into the NARA room to view the autopsy photos, McClelland still maintained there was a big hole at the <b>REAR</b> of Kennedy's head/SKULL. And that is a <b><i>SKULL</i></b> wound we know he could not possibly have seen....and the X-ray below is the proof he couldn't have seen any such "BOH" hole, because all of the skull bone in the right-rear of JFK's head is still present and accounted for in this X-ray. (I wonder if the doctors were shown this X-ray at NARA in 1988 for the NOVA show. Anybody know?)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29842-jfk-what-the-doctors-saw-validates-there-was-no-exit-hole-in-the-back-of-jfks-head/?do=findComment&comment=521310">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But Dr. McClelland never saw any <i>"left temple"</i> wound. He got that erroneous info from Dr. Jenkins. See the quotes from McClelland below (via an interview that Vince Bugliosi had with McClelland in 2002).<br>
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Quoting from Bugliosi's book, <i>"Reclaiming History"</i> (page 406):<br>
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<i><span style="font-size:119%;">"It was getting late in the evening, Dallas time, but before I ended the interview I reminded Dr. McClelland of the fact that in his Parkland Hospital admission note at 4:45 p.m. on the day of the assassination, he had written that the president died "from a gunshot wound of the left temple." <b>"Yes,"</b> he said, <b>"that was a mistake. I never saw any wound to the president's left temple. Dr. Jenkins had told me there was a wound there, though he later denied telling me this."</b> "</i></span><br>
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Many more excerpts from Vincent Bugliosi's 2002 interview with Dr. McClelland can be found <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/head-wounds.html#McClelland-And-Bugliosi">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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Also go to the <b>14:21</b> mark in <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGOODhkYTRkOFdNUlU/view">THIS 2009 INTERVIEW</a></b> with Dr. McClelland, which is where McClelland talks about the erroneous "left temple" observation (which he, again, attributes to Dr. Jenkins and not to his own observations).<br>
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As the 60th anniversary of President Kennedy's death quickly approaches here in November of 2023, I wanted to renew a little bit of interest in what is, in my opinion, the very best motion picture film or documentary ever produced about JFK's 1963 assassination....with that film being David L. Wolper's 1964 masterpiece, <i>"Four Days In November"</i>.<br>
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Here's a review for the film that I wrote at Amazon.com in July 2001:<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b>“</b><i>Four Days In November</i> is my all-time favorite program dealing with the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. You really get a sense of re-living the events of November 22-25, 1963, when America's all-too-young, 46-year-old leader was gunned down on the sunny streets of Dallas, Texas.<br>
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This 1964 black-and-white documentary, skillfully narrated by actor Richard Basehart, was filmed only months after the events, making the re-creations that were filmed for this movie all the more effective, since the people involved, the locations, the landmarks, and even the automobiles had not changed to a great degree (if at all) since the tragedy occurred. I truly had the sense of being there BEFORE it happened because of the very good re-created scenes.<br>
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This wonderfully-edited chronological documentary guides the viewer through all four of those dark November days that shocked the nation in late 1963. An integral part of this program lies in its outstanding musical score, by Elmer Bernstein. Mr. Bernstein's stirring score fits just perfectly here, adding emotional impact to each portion of the film.<br>
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In addition to many re-created scenes, there is a hefty amount of stock news footage presented throughout this 122-minute film, some of which you probably have seen before, and some you probably haven't. The Joan Crawford/Richard Nixon clip was one I'd never seen in the past, as well as the footage of Lee Harvey Oswald's funeral, which nearly no one attended.<br>
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One particular re-created scene in the film that has an especially eerie feeling to it is the scene where we see Wesley Frazier driving his 1954 Chevrolet sedan toward the "drab bulk" of the Texas School Book Depository Building, which looms ahead in the foreground. Frazier was the 19-year-old Depository co-worker of Lee Harvey Oswald's who gave Oswald a ride to work on the morning of the President's assassination.<br>
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The Zapruder Film is not represented in this documentary. It was to be yet another 11 years before the public at large was to see Mr. Zapruder's infamous film. <i>Four Days</i> does include a sequence from the Nix Film, however.<br>
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Wolper Productions sidestepped all the conspiracy theories [thank goodness] and stuck by the Warren Commission Report for this documentary.<br>
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Many of the facts surrounding JFK's assassination have been disputed and debated by researchers for decades. And this tragic crime will likely remain a topic that shall cause heated discussion for many more years to come.<br>
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But what the film <i>Four Days In November</i> does accomplish is to allow the viewer to re-live those sorrowful November days, in the order in which the events transpired, based on the evidence available. This is definitely one program that deserves to be in anyone's JFK collection.<b>”</b><br>
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Part 1369 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>October 1—31, 2023</b>. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">AN ANONYMOUS AND EXCEEDINGLY OBNOXIOUS CONSPIRACY THEORIST SAID <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/3_ft5iQdd1c/m/xpMVHeEVAQAJ">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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We know that <b>BOTH</b> Domingo Benavides <b>AND</b> T.F. Bowley were inside J.D. Tippit's police car trying to report the shooting of the officer on Tenth Street on 11/22/63. But only <i><b>one</i></b> of those two men is heard on the DPD radio tapes---and that's Bowley.<br>
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The Warren Commission, however, was confused about who it was who actually had used the police radio, and they incorrectly said on <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0095b.htm">Page 166 of the Warren Report</a></b> that it was Benavides (and not Bowley) who got through to the Dallas Police Department dispatcher on Tippit's radio.<br>
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But if BOTH men had actually gotten through to the DPD dispatcher that day, then we'd have a total of <b>THREE</b> "citizens" (civilians) being heard on the DPD radio tapes. But we don't have three such transmissions. We only have two---Bowley's and then Ted Callaway's.<br>
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During a <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/warren-commission-got-it-right-part-2.html">2019 discussion</a></b>, DVP said....<br>
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<i>"There is at least one mistake to be found in the Warren Commission's Final Report. (And there are probably several other errors in the Report too, which wouldn't surprise or shock me at all. Finding a few relatively minor errors in a report that's nearly 900 pages in length is, I would think, perfectly normal and to be expected.)<br>
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The WC mistake I had in mind today can be found on Page 166 of the Warren Report, where there's an error concerning Domingo Benavides and the J.D. Tippit murder. The Warren Commission incorrectly thought that it was Benavides who had made the citizen's call on Tippit's police radio ("We've had a shooting out here"). But it was later learned that it was really another witness, T.F. Bowley, who made that radio call, which was done only after Benavides had been pumping (or mashing) the microphone for about ninety seconds. [See the quote below from Dale Myers' book, "With Malice".]<br>
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<b>"Beginning at 1:16 p.m., a microphone is keyed a number of times on channel one of the Dallas police tapes, as if someone were 'pumping' the microphone button of a police radio. This continues for a little over 90 seconds, right up until the time passing motorist T.F. Bowley successfully contacts the dispatcher. .... Considering the timing of the sounds heard in the Dallas police radio recordings, and the corroborating accounts of three witnesses, the murder of Tippit probably occurred about 90 seconds prior to Benavides' bungled attempt to notify the dispatcher. Therefore, there is good reason to believe that J.D. Tippit was shot at approximately 1:14:30 p.m." -- Dale K. Myers; Pages 86-87 of "With Malice: Lee Harvey Oswald And The Murder Of Officer J.D. Tippit" (1998 Edition)</b><br>
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The Warren Commission was apparently relying on a truncated transcript of the Dallas Police radio tapes that appears on <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/html/WH_Vol23_0445a.htm">Page 52 of Commission Exhibit No. 1974</a></b>, which is a transcript that has several radio transmissions omitted, as well as having a "long pause" of 15 seconds omitted (as we can see when comparing CE1974 with <b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm">this more complete version</a></b> of the DPD radio tapes).<br>
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The Commission, therefore, in trying to pinpoint the precise time of Officer Tippit's shooting, failed to take into account the extra 90 seconds of microphone clicking and pumping that was done by Benavides, which I don't think was even discovered until the 1990s when Dale Myers talked about it in his 1998 book.<br>
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So the actual time when Officer J.D. Tippit was shot and killed had to be sometime <b>prior</b> to 1:16 PM, because Benavides' "pumping" begins at exactly 1:16."</i> <b>-- DVP; August 2019</b><br>
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Just listen to the recording, kiddies. There is not 90 seconds of microphone keying, whoever the f**k was talking on the radio.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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What difference does it really make if there's any "keying of the microphone" or not? It makes no difference in the long run. Since we know that <i>somebody</i> is <b>FIRST</b> reporting the shooting over the radio at about 1:17 or 1:18 PM (per the DPD radio transcripts), then it's logical to assume that the shooting itself probably occurred a <i>very few minutes</i> before that time, at about 1:15 PM or so.<br>
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And this timeline is a big problem for the conspiracy crackpots who love to cling to their beloved "1:06" and/or "1:10" times for the Tippit shooting, because we would then have to believe the ridiculous scenario of Benavides and/or Bowley waiting for up to <b>TEN</b> full minutes (or more) before they got on the police radio to report the shooting. And such a long delay is utter nonsense. There's no chance in hell they waited that long to use Tippit's radio.<br>
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<b>Also See:</b><br>
<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/tippit-timelines.html">http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/tippit-timelines.html</a></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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And also see the December 2, 1963, <b><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oBQVSJXfZXg/Tvw_d8vBdLI/AAAAAAAAByY/1FVQ0iegIgM/s1500-h/T-F-Bowley-Affidavit.gif">affidavit</a></b> of T.F. Bowley (excerpted below):<br>
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<i>"On Friday, November 22, 1963...I was headed north on Marsalis and turned west on 10th Street. I traveled about a block and noticed a Dallas police squad car stopped in the traffic lane headed east on 10th Street. I saw a police officer lying next to the left front wheel. I stopped my car and got out to go to the scene. I looked at my watch and it said 1:10 pm. Several people were at the scene. When I got there the first thing I did was try to help the officer. He appeared beyond help to me. A man was trying to use the radio in the squad car but stated he didn't know how to operate it. I know how and took the radio from him. I said, "Hello, operator. A police officer has been shot here." The dispatcher asked for the location. I found out the location and told the dispatcher what it was."</i> <b>--T.F. Bowley; <a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/bowley.htm">12/2/63</a></b><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=515438">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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You're severely overstating (i.e., <i>misstating</i>) Lee Harvey Oswald's alleged "alibi". Oswald never once said he was <b><i>outside on the front steps of the Book Depository Building at the time when President Kennedy was being shot</i></b>.<br>
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When Oswald told Captain Fritz that he was <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1052.html">"out with Bill Shelley in front"</a></b>, Oswald was clearly indicating to Fritz that he had only gone "out" of the building <b>AFTER</b> he had already had his encounter with Police Officer Marrion Baker in the second-floor lunchroom, which was an encounter that occurred, of course, <b><i>after</i></b> the assassination had already taken place.<br>
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(See James W. Bookhout's 11/22/63 FBI report—<b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0322a.htm">HERE</a></b>—for verification of the chronology of Captain Fritz' sketchy "out with Bill Shelley in front" note.)<br>
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The key words in Bookhout's report, <i>chronology-wise</i>, are these words:<br>
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<b><i><span style="font-size: large;">"He thereafter went outside..."</i></b></span><br>
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And the more-recent discovery of James Hosty's <i><b>"went outside to watch P. Parade"</i></b> notes—discussed in detail <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1308.html">HERE</a></b>—have also been mischaracterized by conspiracists (IMO), because the basic chronology of those Hosty notes is identical to Bookhout's report, with Oswald (per the Hosty notes) only going outside <i><b>after</i></b> he had gone to the second floor to get a Coke....and we know the "Coke" excursion coincided with Oswald's encounter with Marrion Baker, which was <b>AFTER</b> the assassination, not <b>DURING</b> the assassination.<br>
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With regard to the identity of "Prayer Man", I'll re-post the following comments made two years ago by someone whose presence on the Depository front steps on November 22nd is not disputed by even the most hardened of conspiracy theorists:<br>
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<b><i><span style="font-size:122%;">"To answer the question about Prayer Man: I have been looking at this all day, and I can tell you this: I 100% have no idea who that person is. I can also tell you 100% that is not Lee Harvey Oswald. First, Lee was not out there. I know that to be true. Second, for anyone who thinks Prayer Man is Lee, the individual has a much larger frame than Lee."</i></span> <br><span style="font-size: large;">-- Buell Wesley Frazier; <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Wheelman1963/posts/509873840391020?comment_id=517993326245738">March 28, 2021</a></b></span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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And even though I don't believe for one second that "Prayer Man" is Lee Harvey Oswald, I still would very much like to see the original versions of the Darnell and Wiegman films, and I'd very much like to have those films enhanced and restored to the best possible quality.<br>
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I certainly think that any such project, if a definitive <i><b>"Is it Oswald or isn't it?"</i></b> identification of the Prayer Man figure can be obtained, will prove very disappointing to the people who keep insisting that the blurry Prayer Man figure has <i>got</i> to be Lee Oswald. But I certainly am not against such a project taking place. Not in the least. As I've said before, I'm all for it.<br>
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<b><i><span style="font-size:120%;"><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1031.html">http://DVP's JFK Archives/"Prayer Man" Discussion</a></i></b></span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=515858">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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Yes, I do think that Oswald claimed during his police interrogation that he ate his lunch <i>after</i> the assassination. And that's because this chronology....<br>
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<b>1.</b> Coke/Lunchroom Encounter with Officer Baker.<br>
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<b>2.</b> <i>Then</i> down to 1st floor to have lunch.<br>
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<b>3.</b> <i>Then</i> outside with Bill Shelley.<br>
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....is confirmed (or at least it is <i>present</i> and <i>exists</i>) in <b>THREE</b> different places within the reports or notes written by the various officials:<br>
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<b>1.</b> Captain Fritz' notes --- <b><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cccbyzkaGcY/VLcIyeV6aiI/AAAAAAABCy4/Bgxowpb6KZE/s1600/Fritz-Notes.jpg">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b>2.</b> James Bookhout's solo 11/22/63 FBI report --- <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/pages/WCReport_0322a.gif">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b>3.</b> James Hosty's recently-discovered notes --- <b><a href="https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yPBdX6NfnDc/XG3eGesdeJI/AAAAAAABQ04/xnrHp4GvgWYOhKc9VGSuqYlHkuHdVf1igCLcBGAs/s650/Malcolm-Archive-Hosty.jpg">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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In Hosty's notes, however, he doesn't say anything about "Shelley". He, instead, says Oswald went outside to watch the "P. Parade". But, IMO, Hosty is, in effect, conflating "Shelley" and "P. Parade". But in any event, Hosty, just like Fritz and Bookhout, has Oswald going outside only <i>after</i> the "Coke" and the "Lunch on 1st floor".<br>
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And Hosty, in his notes, doesn't mention the encounter Oswald had with Baker either. But there's no indication in the existing records and reports that Oswald ever said anything about going to the second floor <b>TWO</b> times to get a Coke on Nov. 22. So, IMO, Hosty's <i>"went to 2nd floor to get Coca-Cola"</i> is essentially the same thing as also referring to the encounter between LHO and Baker.<br>
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And as "absurd" as it might be to think that anyone would want to go and eat his lunch <i><b>after</b></i> having such an encounter with a police officer (at gunpoint) and <i><b>after</i></b> discovering that the President had just been shot right outside the front door of your workplace, we also have to realize that such a chronology was being provided <i><b>by the person to whom all of the evidence in the assassination leads</i></b> --- Lee H. Oswald.<br>
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In other words, Oswald's absurd and crazy chronology was all just <i><b>one big fat lie</i></b> being told by the actual assassin of President Kennedy (except for the Lunchroom Encounter with Officer Baker, of course, which actually did occur and wasn't just one of Oswald's made-up tall tales).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=515883">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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The key point isn't really the specific "lunch" aspect of any of Oswald's lies. (And maybe Oswald himself was having a hard time keeping his "lunch" lies straight after he was arrested.)<br>
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But the most important point, IMO, is the chronology of the <i>"Coke/Lunchroom Encounter"</i> and <i>"Out front with Shelley"</i> aspects of Oswald's attempted alibi. And whether you choose to believe Bookhout, Fritz, and Hosty or not, the fact remains that those three men (Bookhout, Fritz, & Hosty) <b>did</b> write things down in their notes and/or reports that definitely give the impression that OSWALD HIMSELF said he followed this chronology at around 12:30 on Nov. 22:<br>
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2. <i>Then</i> down to 1st floor to have lunch.<br>
3. <i>Then</i> outside with Bill Shelley.</b></span><br>
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Plus: Can anyone who believes that Oswald is the "Prayer Man" figure really and truly <b>also</b> believe that Oswald then decided he wanted to immediately go back into the TSBD Building and dash up to the second-floor lunchroom to buy a Coke within seconds of JFK being shot out on Elm Street in front of the building?<br>
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That scenario of Oswald being Prayer Man and then immediately having a burning desire to go get a Coca-Cola on the second floor is a very loony scenario, if you ask me. But for the conspiracy theorists who wholly endorse the <i>"Oswald Is Prayer Man"</i> theory, then they really have no choice but to believe such an absurd scenario. Because we know for a fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was in that 2nd-floor lunchroom with Officer Baker just a few minutes after the assassination took place.<b>*</b><br>
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<b>*</b> Notwithstanding the many CTers who now belong to the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-973.html#The-INHAA-Club">INHAA club</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=515945">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Greg,<br>
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I think your made-up scenario of Oswald going back into the TSBD after the shooting is totally ludicrous. You've got him going up and down stairs and then out the back door for no really good reason (IMO).<br>
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Via your scenario, Oswald was ALREADY OUTSIDE THE BUILDING (on the steps, I assume? Or do you have him INSIDE the building, on the 1st floor, at 12:30? You seem to imply that it could have been either). But in either case, why would he possibly want to take a circuitous <b>UP-AND-DOWN</b> route via the two staircases just in order to get outside?! It's incredibly silly.<br>
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It's especially ridiculous from the standpoint of Oswald being INVOLVED (in at least SOME peripheral fashion) in a plot to kill JFK, because via such an involvement, Oswald would have no doubt wanted to get away from the scene of the crime as fast as he could....and since he was ALREADY OUTSIDE (if you think he is Prayer Man) <b>or</b> (alternatively) very near the FRONT DOOR on the 1st floor (if you think he took the <b>SOUTHEAST</b> stairs, which are practically right next to the FRONT entrance)....then why the heck wouldn't he just walk out the FRONT DOOR?<br>
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Plus, via your scenario, going back INTO the building itself (via the Prayer Man theory) would be mighty risky from LHO's POV too, because he would certainly have to think that the whole building was going to be sealed off very quickly after the shooting by the police (and it was, at about 12:37). So why would he have the slightest desire to go back into the building at all?<br>
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And I can't see why he would feel that leaving via the front entrance and being seen by somebody would look any worse (or be any more suspicious) than leaving by the back door. In fact, I can easily argue the opposite---that leaving by the BACK DOOR would look way more "suspicious" to anyone who might catch a glimpse of him than simply walking out the front door and exiting Dealey Plaza.<br>
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Sneaking out the back way is always a little more "fishy"-looking to most people, isn't it? In fact, aren't there many CTers who DO believe that one or more of the "real killers" of Kennedy did, indeed, sneak out the back door of the loading dock in order to make their getaway on 11/22?<br>
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I'd advise you to try again, Greg. Because your scenario of having Oswald going up and down the various stairs just in order to get out of the building is just laughable.<br>
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But, Greg, I do appreciate all the time and effort you have been putting into your very well-written posts in this thread over the last few days. I've enjoyed reading them. But this latest bit about Oswald's totally superfluous post-assassination escapade within the Book Depository is just not the slightest bit believable (IMO) and, frankly, reeks of CTer desperation.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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Below is a review of Bart Kamp's new 2023 book <b><i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CH2PPB36">"Prayer Man: More Than A Fuzzy Picture"</a></i></b>. This well-written review, which contains opinions that I agree with 100%, was posted at Amazon by an individual using only the initials "LBP" [who, I later learned, is former <i>Education Forum</i> member Lance Payette]....<br>
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<b>Review Title:</b><br>
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<i><b><span style="font-size:147%;">"Well-meaning and worthwhile <br>presentation of patent nonsense"</i></b></span><br>
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<b>Full Text Of Review:</b><br>
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<i>"Bart Kamp is a serious and well-meaning JFK assassination researcher who is a fixture at the Reopen the Kennedy Case forum, where the overarching theme is that LEE HARVEY OSWALD WAS COMPLETELY INNOCENT!!! This book thus reflects that perspective. More to the point, one of the obsessions there is Prayer Man, an exceedingly fuzzy photo of someone on the Texas School Book Depository steps who might well be a woman but WAS IN FACT LEE HARVEY OSWALD!!!<br>
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There is an initial mental hurdle you must overcome to find this book fascinating and worthwhile. It must make sense to you that Oswald, the designated patsy whose rifle would be found on the sixth floor of the TSBD, was nevertheless allowed by the bumbling conspirators to be standing on the steps of the TSBD at the time of the assassination.<br>
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A secondary mental hurdle is accepting that it "just so happens" that Oswald was captured in a single fuzzy photo that could well be your Aunt Tillie but not in pristinely clear photos that were or well could have been taken in Dealey Plaza on that fateful day.<br>
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A third mental hurdle, I suppose, is that Oswald never said he was standing on the steps--as I probably would've done if I'd been in his shoes and had such an ironclad alibi--and precisely no one, including the TSBD employees who actually were standing on the steps, ever said they saw him.<br>
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I confess, I am of such puny and limited imagination that I am incapable of clearing these hurdles and entering into the wild and wacky world of Prayer Man enthusiasts. I can conceive of no possible conspiracy scenario this side of "Reptilian aliens did it!!!" that would have allowed Oswald to be standing on the steps of the TSBD at the time of the assassination. Nope, sorry, I regard Prayer Man as utter and self-evident nonsense.<br>
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That being said, I emphasize again that Mr. Kamp is a serious assassination enthusiast whose <b><a href="http://www.prayer-man.com">Prayer Man website</a></b> is a veritable goldmine of documents and information even if you regard Prayer Man as nonsense. Ditto for this book. It is chock-full of worthwhile information and links regardless of your perspective on Prayer Man. I give it 4 stars for sheer effort. I am constantly agog at some of the wild and wacky notions that seemingly sane and intelligent conspiracy enthusiasts manage to compartmentalize in their otherwise sane and intelligent minds, and this book also serves as a good illustration of why I am constantly agog."</i> <b>-- Lance B. Payette; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R15I6SO9IJATF5">August 4, 2023</a></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP THEN ADDED:</span></b><br>
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For the sake of fairness and "Equal Time" with respect to reviews for Bart Kamp's "Prayer Man" book, here's a link to Greg Doudna's Amazon review of that same book:<br>
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<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/ROQ2NV1GP33F7"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RS3gXfPv2GU/XKmIz-2CIeI/AAAAAAABRG8/60SevG4bfnUiq1Y7Gk8ygs8HpoKCFsCoQCLcBGAs/s300/Click-Here-Logo-2.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=516021">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Thanks, Greg, for your detailed explanation of why you think Lee Harvey Oswald just might have had a desire to go back inside the Book Depository Building after the assassination (even though, via the "Prayer Man Is Oswald" theory, he was already outside when the shooting occurred).<br>
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You, of course, surely already know all the problems with your scenario which has Oswald possibly going back inside the building in order to get his "gray" jacket. The main problem there, of course, being that Earlene Roberts said that when Oswald came rushing into the Beckley roominghouse shortly after the assassination, he was not wearing any jacket. In her Warren Commission testimony, Mrs. Roberts said:<br>
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<i>"He [LHO] went to his room and he was in his shirt sleeves but I couldn't tell you whether it was a long-sleeved shirt or what color it was or nothing, and he got a jacket and put it on---it was kind of a zipper jacket."</i><br>
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And there's also the testimony of Mary Bledsoe, who saw Oswald during the brief time when both she and Lee were on Cecil McWatters' bus on Elm Street on Nov. 22. Bledsoe is clearly a witness who aligns with Earlene Roberts' observations of Oswald not wearing any jacket between the hours of 12:30 PM and 1:00 PM CST on 11/22/63.<br>
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You can always resort to using cab driver William Whaley to support a proposed claim that Oswald was, indeed, wearing a jacket of some kind just after he left the TSBD. You can even utilize Whaley to try and support the very weird idea that Oswald was wearing a total of <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh2/html/WC_Vol2_0134b.htm">"two jackets"</a></b> when he was riding next to Whaley in his taxicab on Nov. 22.<br>
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But if you choose to use Whaley's testimony, you'll then have to wonder why neither of those other witnesses (Bledsoe and Roberts) saw the jacket(s) that Mr. Whaley said he saw Oswald wearing. <b>~</b>shrug<b>~</b><br>
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Another one of your "possibilities" (to potentially explain why LHO would want to go back into the TSBD after the shooting) is based on something that is unquestionably a lie that was told by Lee Oswald --- the "curtain rods" story. So Oswald, quite obviously, could not possibly have wanted to go back into the Depository to retrieve any curtain rods, since those "rods" only existed in Oswald's made-up story that he fabricated for Buell Wesley Frazier's benefit.<br>
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I, of course, have an advantage over conspiracy theorists like Gregory Doudna, in that I don't need to concoct all kinds of cloak-and-dagger scenarios to explain Lee Oswald's behavior on November 22nd. And that's because I'm confident of the following fact (beyond all reasonable doubt):<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=515740">October 4-6, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The Lunchroom Encounter (Revisited):<br>
<b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-973.html">http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/Lunchroom Encounter</a></b></i><br>
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Excerpt....<br>
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<i>"Why can't conspiracists accept Marrion Baker's "third or fourth floor" statement for what it so clearly is — a simple and honest mistake made by a police officer who was in a chaotic and frantic situation within minutes of the President having just been shot, and who was not paying close attention at all to what floor he was standing on when he pointed his gun at Lee Harvey Oswald's stomach in the lunchroom on November 22, 1963?"</i> <b>-- DVP; December 2017</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG PARKER SAID <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/jPbBxPlMqb4/m/7wKDcqHEBQAJ">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Excerpt from FBI agent James Bookhout's <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0322a.htm">11/22/63 report</a></b>:<br>
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<b><i>"OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there."</i></b><br>
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Key phrases in the above Bookhout report:<br>
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<i>"OSWALD STATED..."</i><br>
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and<br>
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<i>"HE WAS ON THE SECOND FLOOR..."</i><br>
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So, apparently Greg Parker thinks that James W. Bookhout just <b>IMAGINED</b> Oswald saying those things (even though Bookhout was right there in Fritz' office with Oswald when Oswald "stated" those various things.<br>
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Or did Bookhout just <b>MAKE UP</b> those things that he said Oswald had "stated"?<br>
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You've got room for one more liar (Bookhout) on your front porch, don't you Gregory?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG PARKER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Why do you believe Bookhout?<br>
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Fritz report: <i>"I asked him what part of the building he was in at the time the President was shot, and he said that he was having his lunch about that time on the first floor. Mr. Truly had told me that one of the police officers had stopped this man immediately after the shooting somewhere near the back stairway, so I asked Oswald where he was when the police officer stopped him. He said he was on the second floor drinking a coca cola when the officer came in."</i><br>
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So Truly initially lied saying the encounter was near the back stairway AND OSWALD told the truth that it was in the 2nd floor lunchroom -- according to you? Correct?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The encounter <b>WAS</b> near the "back stairway". The stairs are practically right next to where Baker stopped Oswald.<br>
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And the Holmes/Batchelor stuff certainly does <b>NOT</b>, in any fashion, negate the 2nd-Floor Lunchroom Encounter. No way. No how.<br>
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Harry Holmes' Warren Commission testimony [at <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/html/WC_Vol7_0155b.htm">7 H 302</a></b>], which you [Greg Parker] referred to in a previous post, is quite clearly referring to the 2nd-floor encounter, not anything that happened between Oswald and a police officer on the <b>FIRST</b> floor.<br>
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How can we know that for certain?<br>
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Easy. Because there were no cops in the Book Depository clearing the employees to leave <i><b>at 12:33 PM</i></b> (which is the approximate time Oswald left the building). Hence, Harry Holmes can't possibly be referring to the <i>"Police Clearing The Employees At The Front Door"</i> situation when referring to anything relating to <b>OSWALD</b> on 11/22/63.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/jPbBxPlMqb4/m/svfMYNS9BQAJ">October 15, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=516644">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Seems like a mighty weak theory to me, Greg. And many (most) of the things on your 10-item list that you've labelled as "facts" are, of course, not really "facts" at all. They are merely your own <i>opinions</i> and <i>suspicions</i>.<br>
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Like nearly all JFK conspiracy theories, Greg Doudna's latest effort is full of guesswork and speculation, and is merely another attempt by a conspiracist to avoid the obvious. With that "obvious" being (IMO):<br>
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Lee Oswald brought his own rifle to work with him on Nov. 22 (after an unusual Thursday-night trip to Irving), with Oswald himself then using that rifle to shoot JFK from the sixth floor of the Depository.<b>*</b><br>
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<b>*</b> With Oswald unquestionably lying to Wesley Frazier about his real reason for going out to Irving on Thursday night. (The curtain rod story being the provable lie that he told to Frazier.)<br>
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But at least you (Greg Doudna) have found a way to get that rifle out of Ruth Paine's garage without anyone needing to break into the garage in order to steal it (as some CTers have theorized). You certainly deserve a point for that.<br>
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But via your theory, if Oswald himself didn't bring the rifle into the TSBD, who do you think did? Do you think it might have been one of Oswald's fellow TSBD employees? Or was it a stranger? Any idea at all?<br>
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Related thoughts:<br>
<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/two-things-that-prove-oswalds-guilt.html">http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/two-things-that-prove-oswald's-guilt</a></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=516724">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Greg,<br>
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If Oswald had actually given his rifle to somebody else between Nov. 11 and 22, then Oswald would have certainly <i><b>told the police that very important fact</i></b> after he was arrested and charged with committing a murder that he (under those conditions) very likely never committed.<br>
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Would Oswald have had every reason under the sun to admit to the cops that he had given his rifle to another person prior to Nov. 22 <i>if such a rifle transaction was actually the truth?</i> Yes, of course he would. (Especially after being shown the backyard photo on Nov. 23.)<br>
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But did Oswald say anything to the authorities about some other person coming into possession of his Carcano rifle? No, he didn't.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=516772">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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If Lee Oswald was an <i>accomplice</i>, then you're right. Oswald, under those make-believe conditions, certainly wouldn't have wanted to tell the cops that he had handed off the murder weapon to somebody else within the context of Oswald himself KNOWING that the "other person" was going to kill the President with it.<br>
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But my last post was based on an assumption that you, Gregory Doudna, were very likely of the opinion that Lee Oswald was <i>completely blameless</i> for the assassination (i.e., he wasn't a shooter and he was also not an "accomplice").<br>
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Maybe my assumption was inaccurate? ~shrug~<br>
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In any event, your entire "November 11" theory is nothing but 100% guesswork and speculation on your part, and you've got a <b>HUGE</b> hurdle to climb if you really expect anyone here to believe that Lee Oswald <b>REALLY</b> had his "lunch" in that large-ish paper sack on 11/22. Because if that was the case, then we've got no choice but to paint Buell Frazier as a major story-teller (liar) with regard to <i><b>TWO</i></b> key aspects of his post-assassination story and testimony---<br>
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1. The part about Lee telling Buell that the package contained curtain rods (a very silly thing for Oswald to say, of course, if the bag really had a sandwich and an apple in it).<br>
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2. And the part of Buell's story where he says he specifically <i>asked</i> Oswald about his lunch that morning (Nov. 22), with Oswald telling Frazier that he was going to buy his lunch that day.<br>
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And I think any explanation that you (or anyone else) comes up with to try and logically explain away <b>BOTH</b> the "curtain rods" lie that Oswald quite clearly did tell Buell Wesley Frazier on <i>both</i> Nov. 21 and 22....plus the <i>"No Lunch / LHO Said He Was Going To Buy His Lunch"</i> testimony provided by Frazier....is destined to be a very weak (and desperate!) explanation indeed.<br>
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Plus, if Oswald's paper bag contained merely his lunch, then why didn't Lee fold down the bag after he put his lunch inside of it? Don't tell me a cheese sandwich and an apple took up <b>27 inches</b> of space? Remember, the amount of the bag that was visible on the back seat of Frazier's 1954 Chevy, according to Frazier's own observations, was measured and was found to be about 27 inches (per Frazier's own estimate).<br>
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In addition, there's Frazier's <i>"Tucked under his armpit"</i> story too, which would mean that this long bag that you (Greg) think held merely a person's "lunch", was being carried by Oswald into the Book Depository in a very strange manner---with Frazier claiming Oswald had one end "cupped" in his right hand, with the other end stuck up under his armpit. Who on Earth would carry their lunch bag in such a strange <b>non-folded-up</b> manner? It makes no logical sense whatsoever. You'd be better off going back to saying the package contained curtain rods.<br>
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And....<br>
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No, I do not think that Lee Harvey Oswald removed his rifle from Ruth Paine's garage on November 11th, 1963, and I most certainly <i>do not</i> believe that Oswald (with Marina and his two daughters in tow) .... quoting Greg Doudna .... <i><b>"borrowed Michael Paine's blue-and-white Olds parked in front of Ruth's house, and Lee drove himself and Marina with their two children to a gunsmith to have the scope, which had come with the rifle and then had been removed by Oswald, reinstalled on it."</i></b><br>
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That latter part about Oswald using Michael Paine's car is, in my opinion, a preposterous story. (For one thing, why would Lee want to drag his wife and two tiny children with him to the Irving Sports Shop? For what purpose would they be needed on such a journey?)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID:</span></b><br>
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<b><a href="https://www.scrollery.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Irving-Sport-Shop-109-pdf.pdf">https://scrollery.com/2023/02/Irving-Sport-Shop.pdf</a></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARCUS FULLER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=516898">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Excerpt from Vincent Bugliosi's book (click to enlarge):<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARCUS FULLER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=516986">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Marcus,<br>
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Lee's wife, Marina, testified that she personally <i>saw the rifle inside the blanket</i> in Ruth Paine's garage. So it wasn't merely a wild GUESS on the part of Marina that a rifle was in the blanket.<br>
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Many conspiracy theorists, naturally, think Marina Oswald was telling a bunch of lies when she testified in the following manner in early 1964:<br>
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<b>MARINA OSWALD -- After we arrived, I tried to put the bed, the child's crib together, the metallic parts, and I looked for a certain part, and I came upon something wrapped in a blanket. I thought that was part of the bed, but it turned out to be the rifle.<br>
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[Later....]<br>
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J. LEE RANKIN -- After your husband returned from Mexico, did you examine the rifle in the garage at any time?<br>
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MRS. OSWALD -- I had never examined the rifle in the garage. It was wrapped in a blanket and was lying on the floor.<br>
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MR. RANKIN -- Did you ever check to see whether the rifle was in the blanket?<br>
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MRS. OSWALD -- I never checked to see that. There was only once that I was interested in finding out what was in that blanket, and I saw that it was a rifle.<br>
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MR. RANKIN -- When was that?<br>
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MRS. OSWALD -- About a week after I came from New Orleans.<br>
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MR. RANKIN -- And then you found that the rifle was in the blanket, did you?<br>
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MRS. OSWALD -- Yes, I saw the wooden part of it, the wooden stock.</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARCUS FULLER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=516993">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But given the situation Marina Oswald was confronted with after the assassination --- her husband is dead, she has no money, very few friends, speaks very little English, and she's now on her own and living in a country that's foreign to her --- can you think of one good reason under the sun <b>WHY</b> she would be afraid (or unwilling) to go back to her native Russia?<br>
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In other words, why on Earth would she have been afraid of being "deported"?<br>
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The <i>"Marina Was Afraid Of Being Deported"</i> line of reasoning has never made any sense to me at all. But apparently it does make sense to most conspiracy theorists. But I would think that Marina would have been anxious and eager to get back to her USSR homeland, which is where her family and friends were located.<br>
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Marina did later say that she did want to remain in the United States. But the notion that has been advanced over the years by various conspiracy theorists that she was deathly afraid of being "deported" back to the Soviet Union (and therefore she lied her ass off on numerous occasions in her Warren Commission testimony in order to avoid deportation) is, in my opinion, a totally ridiculous and illogical notion.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29747-a-new-look-at-paper-bags-curtain-rods-and-oswald/?do=findComment&comment=516716">October 16-19, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GARY AGUILAR SAID:</span></b><br>
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The only non-rigged skull shooting tests were done by the US Government. They showed the obvious: when a bony skull is struck with a MCC shell it travels away from the shooter, not toward her.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Well, technically, JFK's head initially <i>did</i> travel <b><i>away</i></b> from the shooter --- for about 2.3 inches anyway:<br>
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<img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-m1Jj7UQ0w0U/UolhSNdHzQI/AAAAAAAAw5Q/dJ6Z4NCchbA/s1600/107.+Zapruder+Film+(Head+Shot+Sequence+In+Slow+Motion).gif"><br>
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<b>Also See:</b><br>
<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/head-shot.html">http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/02/head-shot.html</a></b><br>
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And the "Jet Effect" has been proven (over and over again), such as this example:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GARY AGUILAR SAID:</span></b><br>
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Oh, so your "proof" of "jet effect" comes from two comedians? That's hilarious!<br>
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Back here on earth, <b><a href="https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/peer-reviewed-medical-scientific-journalism-has-been-corrupted-by-warren-commission-apologists">here's</a></b> what credentialed authorities, working for the U.S. Government, found when they did credible "duplication" skull shooting tests.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Comedians or not, <b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2009/12/debunking-jfk-conspiracy-myths.html">this video</a></b> proves the "Jet Effect" can (and will) occur when an object is struck by a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5mm bullet. That's the point.<br>
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<b>WHO CARES</b> who it was who did the firing of the rifle? I sure don't. Captain Kangaroo or Pee Wee Herman could have been doing the shooting for all I care. The Jet Effect would still have been proven.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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I know that Luis Alvarez' "Jet Effect" theory is a very controversial and debated theory indeed. But any "problems" that anyone has with the "Jet Effect" theory are completely irrelevant when it comes to the two most important questions that need to be answered concerning President John F. Kennedy's head wounds, which are these two questions:<br>
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<b>1. <i>How many total bullets struck JFK in the head?</i></b><br>
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<b>2. <i>From what direction did those bullet(s) come?</i></b><br>
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And the answers to those two questions, based on the <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0284a.htm">official autopsy findings</a></b>, are crystal clear and ironclad (albeit disputed, as always, by virtually every conspiracy theorist who walks the planet), with those ironclad answers being (regardless of whether anybody believes in the "Jet Effect" or not):<br>
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<b>ONE</b> and only <b>ONE</b> bullet struck the skull of President Kennedy, with that one bullet entering the <b>BACK</b> portion of JFK's head. Hence, the one and only head shot came <b>FROM BEHIND</b> the Presidential limousine in Dealey Plaza.<br>
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An exasperated Dr. James J. Humes put it very well in 1992 when he said this (which is as true today as it was then):<br>
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<a href="https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md22/html/Image02.htm"><img src="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Qt0zI3ZBsNQ/W_ssfPchLyI/AAAAAAABQZM/_cDoOBJgq9wJVjDpKdaBU33Hz26wKCGHACLcBGAs/s530/1992-JAMA-Quote-By-Dr-James-Humes.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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After having just now [on October 13, 2023] read the key "bullet" portions of Paul Landis' newly-released book <b><i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1641609443">"The Final Witness"</a></i></b> (via the book excerpts that have been made available on <b><a href="https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t2787-the-landis-bullet#43084">this webpage</a></b>), some additional problems and questions arise, with one of these problems being a massively important one regarding the precise location of where Landis says he left the whole bullet that he says he found on the top of the back seat in the Presidential limo.<br>
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All of the available testimony from the Parkland Hospital personnel makes it clear that President Kennedy was never moved from his stretcher (gurney) during the entire time the President was being treated in Trauma Room No. 1. This fact is confirmed in the Warren Commission testimony of Parkland's Dr. Robert McClelland:<br>
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<span style="font-size:121%;"><b>ARLEN SPECTER --</b> Was he [President Kennedy] on the stretcher at all times?<br>
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<b>DR. ROBERT N. McCLELLAND --</b> Yes.<br>
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<b>MR. SPECTER --</b> In the trauma room No. 1 you described, is there any table onto which he could be placed from the stretcher?<br>
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<b>DR. McCLELLAND --</b> No; generally we do not move patients from the stretcher until they are ready to go into the operating room and then they are moved onto the operating table.<br>
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<b>MR. SPECTER --</b> Well, in fact, was he left on the stretcher all during the course of these procedures until he was pronounced dead?<br>
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<b>DR. McCLELLAND --</b> That's right.</span><br>
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Plus, there's <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgKLNuAreosdnnnmjf3mrmx4v_hBsMuiH__88eLtNkcpEOaJsKuVG7x-v4LJXq9Mi7L5hSBGobSM_GyvESL1lYljhC8FjmiimsAiyyVFIKcDyzLUl6zD7taO9bzfRi7c3cXnKXqLgmdIW9a_LMLwW9ibMJr-sUmdU9DZ-bIfFneqnb9XMhPbFhPVZRmlVc/s5000/Reclaiming%20History%20Book%20Excerpt%20--%20JFK%27s%20Stretcher%20&%20Bullet%20CE399.png">this information</a></b> concerning JFK's stretcher.<br>
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Former Secret Service agent Paul Landis, however, says something completely different in his book. He says this (quoting from the book itself):<br>
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<i><b>"As I entered—or, more to the point, was pushed into—the trauma room, the president’s lifeless body was already being lifted off the gurney and placed onto a white cotton blanket that covered the surface of a stainless-steel examination table in the middle of the room."</i></b> [End Quote.]<br>
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Landis then goes on to say this in his book:<br>
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<i><b>"I removed the bullet from my pocket, and reaching out over the examination table, I carefully placed it on the white cotton blanket next to the president’s left shoe."</i></b> [End Quote.]<br>
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But let's now compare the above book excerpt with the following statement made by the same Mr. Landis just one month ago:<br>
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<i>"I put the bullet on the gurney right by his [JFK's] feet"</i> <b>-- Paul Landis; September 12, 2023 (NBC Interview)</b><br>
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So the question of great importance now becomes: Did Landis drop the bullet onto JFK's <b>stretcher/"gurney"</b>? Or did he leave it on an <b>"examination table"</b>?<br>
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That's an exceedingly important question to answer, because if we're to believe he left it on an exam table instead of the stretcher (with a stretcher, of course, having wheels on it, which means it could easily be moved from one part of the hospital to another), we've then got to ask: <i>How, then, did that bullet (if it was really CE399, which Mr. Landis does seem to think it was) manage to get from the exam table to a stretcher in the corridor of Parkland Hospital, where it was then found by hospital employee Darrell C. Tomlinson a short time later?</i><br>
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Another possible problem with Landis' story crops up in the book excerpts linked above, although this "problem" isn't nearly as important or imperative as the "gurney vs. exam table" head-scratcher. This additional problem concerns the timing of Vice President Johnson's arrival at Parkland Hospital on 11/22/63. Landis says in his book that LBJ and the Vice President's Secret Service car had not yet arrived at Parkland Hospital by the time JFK's body was being lifted out of the back seat and onto a stretcher. Quoting again from Mr. Landis' book:<br>
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<i><b>"The vice president’s limo had yet to arrive, so there were no agents from his detail in sight. In fact, there were no other agents in sight anywhere to the rear, to my right, or to the front. Where are they? Where the hell is SA Greer? He was driving the president’s limo. He should be here. The follow-up car was empty too. Where the hell is Special Agent Sam Kinney? He was driving it. Jeez, oh man! Where the hell is everyone? Where did all the agents go? Who is going to secure the car AND THE CRIME SCENE? Everyone seemed to be crowded around the president’s body. No one was paying attention to anything else. My immediate concern was the bullet. It would be visible to anyone happening to walk by. What about photographers? Or worse yet, What about a souvenir hunter? Thoughts continued to race through my mind."</i></b> [End Quote.]<br>
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But with regard to Vice President Lyndon Johnson and his exact whereabouts at the time when President Kennedy was being wheeled into the hospital, there is evidence (via the observations of ambulance driver Aubrey Rike) which would indicate that Johnson actually entered Parkland Hospital <i>prior</i> to the time when <i>either</i> JFK or wounded Governor John Connally entered the emergency room entrance.<br>
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Listen to the chronology of events provided by Aubrey Rike, in two separate interviews he did on November 22, 1963, <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MDmhNVZypu9k16TyS9M5fF0jBNr8l0R/view">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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If Rike's chronology of the timing for when each man entered the hospital is correct --- i.e., Johnson, then Connally, then Kennedy --- that would, in my opinion, place a serious cloud of doubt over Mr. Landis' account (and his mindset) concerning those same events.<br>
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Because if LBJ's car and his Secret Service follow-up car were actually there at the hospital <i>prior</i> to Landis and JFK and Mrs. Kennedy exiting the limo and going into the emergency room, it would also mean that Mr. Landis would very likely have had no reason to say this to himself --- <i><b>"Where did all the agents go? Who is going to secure the car AND THE CRIME SCENE?"</i></b> --- because there would have still been plenty of SS agents there at Parkland to look after the limousine/"crime scene".<br>
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So with each passing glance at Paul Landis' new 2023 story regarding the events of November 22nd, more and more questions (and doubts) seem to surface.<br>
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<span style="font-size:large;"><b>Also See:</b><br>
<b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/06/paul-landis.html">http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/Paul Landis</a></i></b></span><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b>PAUL LANDIS:<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=516368">https://educationforum.com/topic=29610/comment=516368</a><br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=516449">https://educationforum.com/topic=29610/comment=516449</a><br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29792-new-article-at-kennedys-king-jfk-secret-service-agent-paul-landis-makes-a-big-splash-in-2023but-how-credible-is-he/?do=findComment&comment=518107">https://educationforum.com/topic=29792/comment=518107</a><br>
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OSWALD'S GUILT:<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=514508">https://educationforum.com/topic=29481/comment=514508</a><br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29767-the-burden-of-proof/?do=findComment&comment=517162">https://educationforum.com/topic=29767/comment=517162</a><br>
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OSWALD'S TIMELINE:<br>
<a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3901.msg154567.html#msg154567">https://jfkassassinationforum.com/topic=3901/message=154567</a><br>
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FRITZ, BOOKHOUT, HOSTY, AND OSWALD:<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=515869">https://educationforum.com/topic=29481/comment=515869</a><br>
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GLEN A. BENNETT:<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29739-the-shallow-back-wound-possible-explanation/?do=findComment&comment=516546">https://educationforum.com/topic=29739/comment=516546</a><br>
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THE LUNCHROOM ENCOUNTER REVISITED:<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/jPbBxPlMqb4/m/svfMYNS9BQAJ">https://alt.conspiracy.jfk/jPbBxPlMqb4/m/svfMYNS9BQAJ</a><br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/jPbBxPlMqb4/m/iHaaK6XIBQAJ">https://alt.conspiracy.jfk/jPbBxPlMqb4/m/iHaaK6XIBQAJ</a><br>
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THE BUS, THE CAB, AND THE COKE:<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29963-finish-the-sentence-re-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=523792">https://educationforum.com/topic=29963/comment=523792</a><br>
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THE RIFLE ORDER:<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22439-yes-postal-money-orders-do-require-bank-endorsements/?do=findComment&comment=522187">https://educationforum.com/topic=22439/comment=522187</a><br>
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GOODBYE TO THE ALT.CONSPIRACY.JFK NEWSGROUP:<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/YQrMWE1nh90/m/wVCaLnUWAgAJ">https://alt.conspiracy.jfk/YQrMWE1nh90/m/wVCaLnUWAgAJ</a><br>
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JOHN CONNALLY AND THE SBT:<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/SM2HwMBZ7qs/m/BNCBK4QMAAAJ">https://alt.conspiracy.jfk/SM2HwMBZ7qs/m/BNCBK4QMAAAJ</a><br>
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HUGH AYNESWORTH (1931—2023):<br>
<a href="http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2023/12/hugh-aynesworth-dead-at-92.html">http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/Hugh Aynesworth Has Passed Away</a><br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30016-hugh-aynesworth-passing/?do=findComment&comment=524248">https://educationforum.com/topic=30016/comment=524248</a><br>
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MAILBOX MAN:<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29771-those-front-steps/?do=findComment&comment=528649">https://educationforum.com/topic=29771/comment=528649</a></b><br>
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-49782844821422486282023-09-01T01:00:00.171-07:002023-10-20T22:00:16.906-07:00 JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS (PART 1368) <br><base target="_blank">
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Part 1368 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>September 1—30, 2023</b>. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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<span style="font-size:120%;"><i>"There is nothing new to be unveiled concerning the way John F. Kennedy died on November 22, 1963. JFK was shot by a lone loser named Lee Harvey Oswald. And that lone loser who hated America and its "representatives" just happened to own a cheap mail-order rifle and he also just happened to work in a building that overlooked the very last portion of President Kennedy's motorcade route through Dallas. The combination of things I just mentioned above was a lethal combination. And it's also, whether you want to believe it or not, a combination of circumstances brought about by nothing except pure garden-variety coincidence and happenstance."</i><br>
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<b>-- David Von Pein; January 2008</b></span><br>
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<span style="font-size:120%;"><i>"A 5-year-old child could have solved the Tippit murder. Given the evidence, there's no human way for Lee Harvey Oswald to be innocent of killing Officer J.D. Tippit.<br>
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The only thing that conspiracy theorists can cling to in the Tippit murder case is their own silly imaginations -- such as when they pretend that all of the evidence against LHO was faked or manipulated by the evil DPD, which is a theory that's so ridiculous that another 5-year-old could see that it's nothing but pure desperation on the part of the conspiracists in their feeble attempts to exonerate a murderer named Oswald.<br>
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There's not a single conspiracy theorist in the world who can logically (and believably) answer the following question:<br>
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<b>Why on Earth would the Dallas Police Department have had any desire whatsoever to want to frame and railroad an innocent Lee Harvey Oswald for the murder of one of their FELLOW OFFICERS AND FRIENDS, all the while not caring at all that they were allowing the real killer or killers of Officer Tippit to get off scot-free?</b><br>
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Conspiracy theorists have their imaginations and crazy assertions. Reasonable people, however, have the hard evidence. Lee Harvey Oswald murdered J.D. Tippit. And Oswald murdered John F. Kennedy too."</i><br>
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<b>-- David V.P.; December 2009</b></span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GIL JESUS SAID:</span></b><br>
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They didn't give a shit about getting the right guy, they just wanted to get a conviction. Whoever they arrested was the right guy. Why is that so hard for you to understand?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BUD SAID:</span></b><br>
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So they were okay with Tippit's murderer getting away with his murder?<br>
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Good thing the guy they just randomly grabbed had so much incriminating evidence against him, eh?<br>
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Rest, Gil.<br>
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I can't understand how such a poor thinker as yourself reached adulthood.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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How is it even possible for a person who has focused so much of his life on the JFK and Tippit murder cases (namely someone named Gilbert J. Jesus) to utter the nonsense he just uttered above (i.e., <i>"They didn't give a shit about getting the right guy"</i>)?<br>
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Do you, Gil, think that the DPD just randomly chose Oswald to arrest for Tippit's murder on Nov. 22? And they were perfectly fine with their decision to charge an innocent person with the Tippit killing while giving the true murderers a free pass?<br>
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And do you truly believe the DPD had no <b>REAL & VALID EVIDENCE</b> against Oswald in either the Kennedy or Tippit cases?<br>
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(I think Gil needs a new hobby.)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN, QUOTING JOHN McADAMS, SAID:</span></b><br>
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<i>"Conspiracists fail to outline the scenario that would be necessary for the bag <br>to have actually been as short as Frazier and Randle describe it. It would require that the "phony bag" be forged in absolutely record time, in exactly the right length, and carried from the Depository even before the Dallas cops in the Depository knew that Frazier was saying that Oswald had carried a bag in to work! And somehow they got Oswald's prints on it. You've got to admire the foresight of those cops. They really lucked out when Frazier said that Oswald <br>had carried a bag just like that into work that morning."</i> <br><b>-- John McAdams; July 2000</b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BEN HOLMES SAID <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/0d1suweC97I/m/p2WkRh0DBgAJ">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Stumps like Ben Holmes can't figure out the easiest of the easy things connected with the JFK and Tippit murders --- such as:<br>
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.... Oswald carrying his own rifle to work in a homemade paper bag on 11/22/63.<br>
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.... Oswald shooting and killing Officer Tippit on 10th Street.<br>
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.... Oswald purchasing his mail-order rifle from Klein's in March '63.<br>
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But if you're a Super Stump (like Ben Holmes), none of the above facts are to be considered "facts" at all --- even though all 3 things above ARE, indeed, proven and provable <b><i>FACTS</i></b>, without a shred of a doubt.<br>
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LNers <i>rely</i> on the evidence.<br>
CT Stumps <i>throw all the evidence in the toilet</i> and pretend it was all faked.<br>
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In other words, LNers live in the real world.<br>
CT Stumps reside in a Fantasy Land where everybody was out to frame a total stranger named Oswald.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/0d1suweC97I/m/ZCqg1cdFAwAJ">September 2-7, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CHUCK SCHUYLER SAID:</span></b><br>
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From <b><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/2cpHEpvOgu8/m/LIFGCzcRAwAJ">"The Kooks Have All The Advantages"</a></b> thread:<br>
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This is the finest post I've ever read at <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk">this board</a>. Sky Throne, a/k/a The Toilet, wins the prize:<br>
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<b>[Quoting the anonymous conspiracy fantasist going by the <br>username "Sky Throne"....]</b><br>
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<span style="font-size:117%;"><i>"It's difficult to say exactly who murdered JFK. The throat shot from the overpass was not a fatal wound. Connally then shot him with poison. Greer shot at frame 304 of the Zapruder film, but that was not a head shot; presumably it did hit JFK somewhere. Then Jackie did something that probably was not a shot, but which did push JFK up in his seat. Then the guy behind the fence, perhaps Oswald, fired what should have been a fatal head shot, if he was not already dead. Then Greer did the same. Technically, Connally might deserve the kill credit, since his poison shot would presumably mean certain death. But, if JFK was still alive when "Oswald" fired, then maybe LHO gets the kill. Greer's final shot seems to be too late for the kill, but what's the harm in making sure? And the guy on the overpass who fired two more shots was just wasting bullets, and I don't see why the Ruling Murderers would want to waste bullets. Being capitalist pigs, they are cheap bastards and would probably rather have saved those bullets for two Vietnamese commies."</i></span><br>
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<b>[End Kook Quote.]</b><br>
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Funny thing, but Sky Throne is actually CLOSER to the truth than Gil or Ben, both of whom believe Oswald was a TOTALLY innocent patsy. At least Sky Throne has Oswald shooting at the motorcade!<br>
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Keep 'em coming Sky Throne! You're On the Trail of the Assassins!<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT SAID:</span></b><br>
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No sane adult could believe the nonsense the Toilet Seat [aka "Sky Throne"] just posted. One of two things has to be true about him. One is that he is completely insane and has no concept of reality. The other is that he is just playing games and just wants to draw attention to himself for some equally crazy reason. Either way, he's nuts.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The mega-kook named "Sky Throne" seems to believe just about everything uttered by another Super Mega-Kook---a certain Mr. Lifton---in <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0O5WNzrZqINyzkmcG_mxtCdItyQLe93E">this video series</a></b>.<br>
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Or maybe, like John suggested, the mega-kook calling himself "Sky Throne" is just playing silly games.<br>
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Either way, he is, indeed, nuts.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">“SKY THRONE” <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/CCECNzSlXNQ/m/_H1MD8_RAwAJ">SAID</a>:</span></b><br>
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He [DVP] cannot make his own path through the evidence; he needs somebody else to do it for him.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Well, that ranks as certainly one of the dumbest things ever uttered by The Throne here at the acj asylum. Because the <i>"path through the evidence"</i> couldn't possibly be any clearer and plain and definitive. It all points to Oswald. And I certainly don't need the help of Vince B., or Gerald P., or anybody else to know that basic fact.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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The mega-kook called "Sky Throne" actually seems to be <i>proud</i> of his "Connally shot him with poison" post. He's re-posting it again and again. (I love it.)<br>
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Normally when somebody embarrasses themselves THAT much in public, they don't want further attention focused on their idiocy. But not our kook named Throne. He's basking in his crackpottery by re-posting his fantasy again---and yet again!<br>
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Go figure JFK conspiracy kooks!<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/CCECNzSlXNQ/m/Pq0eSN-sAwAJ">September 3-4, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JONATHAN COHEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513145">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I, myself, find it nearly impossible to believe former Secret Service agent Paul Landis' story (which Landis evidently tells in his new 2023 book, <b><i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1641609443">"The Final Witness"</a></i></b>) about finding a bullet <i><b>"resting on the top of the back of the seat"</i></b> of the Presidential limousine (which is a quote from <b><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/new-jfk-assassination-revelation-upend-lone-gunman">this 9/9/2023 <i>Vanity Fair</i> article</a></b> written by James Robenalt).<br>
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How on Earth could a whole bullet have managed to have been located in that odd position on 11/22/63? <i>"Resting on the top of the back of the seat"</i>? Without Clint Hill ever noticing it or disturbing it, even though Hill was <b><a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aNOOYSIdUrA/VF7I3Bzm9VI/AAAAAAABBDQ/VuUgTq-RzrE/s1600/JFK-Limousine-On-Way-To-Hospital-11-22-63.jpg">clinging to the back of the car</a></b> all the way to Parkland? Highly doubtful.<br>
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And even more importantly, why wouldn't Agent Landis have told someone else in authority (<i>anyone else!</i>) that he had picked up a bullet and moved it to President Kennedy's stretcher?<br>
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It makes no sense whatsoever for Landis to have remained totally silent about finding (and moving) such a bullet in the limo on November 22.<br>
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Did Mr. Landis think that the details about <i>where</i> and <i>how</i> the bullet was first found weren't important details at all, and therefore he felt he didn't even need to tell the Chief of the Secret Service or the FBI or anybody in Trauma Room No. 1 at Parkland about his discovery at all?<br>
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Such a mindset and behavior for a Secret Service agent is utterly ridiculous—and most certainly unbelievable.<br>
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If Mr. Landis' bullet story is to be believed, we would then have to believe that the bullet he placed on JFK's stretcher was either never noticed by anyone else in the very busy Trauma Room No. 1, or the bullet was deliberately deep-sixed and disposed of, or the bullet was moved to yet another stretcher in the hospital (Governor Connally's).<br>
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Each of the above choices, in my opinion, also resides in the category marked "unbelievable".<br>
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A 4th choice would be: The bullet was <i>accidentally</i> lost (after, of course, it was never noticed by a single living soul in Trauma Room No. 1). Yet another unbelievable option.<br>
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Below is a portion of what Special Agent Paul Landis said in <b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/Sa-landi.htm">this extremely detailed Secret Service report</a></b> that he wrote on November 30, 1963. Here's what Landis said he found <i>"on the back seat"</i> of the Presidential limo at Parkland:<br>
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<i><b>"By this time someone was lifting the President's body out of the right side of the car. Agent Hill helped Mrs. Kennedy out of the car, and I followed. Mrs. Kennedy's purse and hat and a cigarette lighter were on the back seat. I picked these three items up as I walked through the car and followed Mrs. Kennedy into the hospital."</i></b><br>
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Also See:<br>
<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/06/paul-landis.html">http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/06/paul-landis.html</a></i></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513169">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Paul Landis, following his new "revelation", really doesn't have much of a choice but to have doubts about Oswald acting alone. Because if what Landis theorizes is true (i.e., the back-wound bullet to Kennedy ended up on the top of the back seat after JFK was thrown to the rear at the time of the head shot), then that would almost certainly have to mean that a second assassin shot Kennedy in the throat with a frontal shot.<br>
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(Unless Mr. Landis wants to theorize that it wasn't a BULLET at all that caused JFK's throat wound, but instead it was a fragment from the head shot that did the throat damage, with that damage giving the false appearance of a bullet hole to Dr. Perry.) ~shrug~<br>
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But with each additional theory comes even more questions and problems. Such as:<br>
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If a single bullet didn't wound both JFK and Connally....and if the bullet that Landis allegedly found was, indeed, CE399 (which I think Landis says he believes is the case)....then what the heck happened to the bullet (or bullets) that hit Governor Connally?!<br>
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With the Single-Bullet Theory in place, of course, we don't need to ask the question I just posed above. There are no "missing bullets" with the SBT. But with the LBT (Landis Bullet Theory) in the mix of possible scenarios now, this question will always be hanging out there, never to be satifactorily answered by any conspiracy theorist:<br>
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<i><b>Where did the bullet go that struck John Connally and ended up making a shallow wound in his left thigh?</i></b><br>
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CTers can, of course, always resort to the theory that has a fragment from the JFK head shot creating the superficial wound in Connally's leg. But that still won't answer the question of: <i><b>What happened to the bullet that hit Connally?</i></b><br>
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For conspiracy advocates, it always seems to be:<br>
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<i><b>So many wounds .... So few bullets</i></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Another rather incredible claim that ex-Secret Service agent Paul Landis is now making (via the <b><i><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/new-jfk-assassination-revelation-upend-lone-gunman">Vanity Fair</a></i></b> article) is his claim that he saw two <i>"bullet fragments"</i> lying on the back seat as well.<br>
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Of course, as we all know, there were no bullet fragments recovered from the <b>BACK</b> seat. The two large bullet fragments (<b><a href="https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/09/ce567-and-ce569.html">CE567 & CE569</a></b>) were found in <br>the <b>FRONT</b> seat of the limousine after the car was flown back to Washington.<br>
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Some people (mostly CTers) can always claim, of course, that Agent Landis really did see a couple of bullet fragments lying on the back seat on Nov. 22, but the <i>Bucket Brigade</i> (clean-up crew) scooped those fragments up when they (allegedly) washed out the back of the limo at Parkland.<br>
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Bottom Line regarding Mr. Paul Landis (IMO):<br>
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It's absolutely ridiculous and wholly unbelievable to think that a member of the United States Secret Service, right after discovering and moving a piece of very important evidence connected directly to the shooting of a U.S. President, <i><b>wouldn't have mentioned to anyone on the very day it happened</i></b> the fact that he found a whole bullet right there in the same car where JFK was murdered.<br>
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Landis' explanation for why he never uttered a word to anyone else about his bullet discovery (via the <i>Vanity Fair</i> article) is this:<br>
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<i><b>"The special agent simply never gave the bullet a second thought, he says. He had left it where someone would find it."</i></b><br>
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The above reasoning which has Landis just <i>assuming</i> that somebody in the Parkland Hospital emergency room would notice the bullet after he placed it on JFK's stretcher is, in my opinion, just not a believable excuse at all for not saying a word to anyone about his discovery, especially since Landis also readily admits in that same <i>Vanity Fair</i> article that <i><b>"he believed it was crucial evidence and needed for the autopsy"</i></b>.<br>
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So, Agent Landis supposedly finds a bullet, doesn't maintain possession of it, but then decides to not tell another living soul in the hospital about his discovery after he leaves that bullet lying on President Kennedy's stretcher?! That's just laughable and idiotic. And, of course, not the slightest bit believable.<br>
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Landis also says (again via the <i>Vanity Fair</i> article) that in later years he thought of his bullet discovery as merely <i>"a minor detail"</i>.<br>
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That's a fairly large "minor detail", if you ask me.<br>
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And nobody can possibly use the fact that Mr. Landis, in later years, suffered from PTSD, which is, indeed, unfortunate for him. But any PTSD that was suffered by Mr. Landis certainly can't explain his lack of communicating with someone (anyone!) the fact he had found (and moved) a bullet on November 22, 1963.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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Here's one more reason to doubt Paul Landis' new revelation:<br>
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Landis seems to think that the bullet he says he found on the back of the Presidential limousine, which he <i>does</i> seem to believe <i>was</i>, indeed, <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#CE399">Warren Commission Exhibit No. 399</a></b>, somehow rolled off of Kennedy's stretcher and onto John Connally's stretcher at some point prior to the time when Darrell Tomlinson found the bullet on a stretcher in the corridor of Parkland Hospital.<br>
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But the timing of such a speculative "bullet-hopping" event just doesn't line up at all, as explained by author Vincent Bugliosi in the book excerpt pictured below.<br>
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<b>ARLEN SPECTER --</b> "Is it possible that the stretcher that Mr. Kennedy was on was rolled with the sheets on it down into the area near the elevator?"<br>
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<b>MR. SPECTER --</b> "Are you sure of that?"<br>
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<b>MISS HENCHLIFFE --</b> "I am positive of that." [<b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/html/WC_Vol6_0076b.htm">6 H 142</a></b>]<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ADDED:</span></b><br>
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Author Gerald Posner provides his opinion about Paul Landis' alleged bullet discovery ----> <b><a href="https://www.justthefacts.media/p/an-explosive-jfk-assassination-tale">HERE</a></b> and <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DKx5kgQ3aCjb8IFt932Ux0Aix9waA3Zo/view">HERE</a></b> and <b><a href="https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/09/16/smr-jfk-secret-service-agents-secret.cnn">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513326">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But Landis isn't talking about a <b>WHOLE</b> bullet there, Pat. He's talking only about a "fragment". Big difference.<br>
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And now Landis is saying he saw a whole bullet <b>PLUS</b> two different fragments lying on the back seat.<br>
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So that's three bullet items he's now claiming to have seen.<br>
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Yeah, right.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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While performing an online newspaper search for <i>"Paul Landis, Secret Service"</i> on the morning of September 11, 2023, I came across the 1983 newspaper article seen below, which contains an interesting passage that totally contradicts Landis' new 2023 claims. The '83 article says:<br>
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<i><b><span style="font-size:124%;">"Landis said that when he got to the Kennedy limousine outside the hospital, the president had already been taken inside, but he helped Mrs. Kennedy out. He said there was a bullet fragment on the top of the back seat that he picked up and gave to somebody."</i></b></span><br>
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So, in 1983, Mr. Landis was saying it was merely a "bullet fragment" that he picked up in the limo, which he "gave to somebody". But now, forty years later in 2023, it's a whole bullet (not just a fragment) which he didn't give to anyone but which he himself carried into the hospital and placed on JFK's stretcher.<br>
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Looks like Mr. Landis' credibility issues just got a lot worse.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL GRIFFITH SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513479">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I disagree very strongly with Mr. Griffith above. Mr. Landis' total silence about finding a bullet in the limo is most certainly <b>not</b> <i>"perfectly understandable"</i> to me at all. In fact, it's totally mystifying to me as to why on Earth he didn't <b>TELL SOMEONE</b> about the bullet <b>IMMEDIATELY</b> after putting it on JFK's stretcher (if, in fact, that's what he did).<br>
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And the reason for why his total silence is not believable (or "understandable") is because at the time Landis did what he said he did with that bullet, he had absolutely no knowledge or information about any of the details concerning the assassination. He had no idea who Oswald was at that time and he had no idea if a conspiracy might be involved. He knew <i><b>nothing</i></b> at that point. And yet he tells <b>NOBODY</b> about finding (and moving!) an important piece of evidence like a bullet?!<br>
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Such dead silence by a member of the U.S. Secret Service (or anyone in law enforcement) in such a situation is completely beyond belief, not to mention totally irresponsible on Landis' part.<br>
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And, in my opinion, even if it had been days or weeks or months later that he had somehow come across a piece of new evidence connected with JFK's death, it still would not be at all "perfectly understandable" that he would just keep completely silent about coming into contact with such a piece of potentially vital evidence in the case of a murdered President.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BENJAMIN COLE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513482">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But that still doesn't explain why Landis would remain totally silent on <b>DAY ONE</b> (11/22/63) and not say a word to anybody at Parkland after he (supposedly) dropped that bullet on Kennedy's stretcher.<br>
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At the time of his "discovery", Landis didn't know there would be a "Magic Bullet" controversy in the future. Therefore, your explanation above doesn't hold any water.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">K.K. LANE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513563">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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In 2012, I asked former Secret Service agent Gerald Blaine some of <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513563">these same questions</a></b> via e-mail. Here's an excerpt from one of the e-mails I received from Mr. Blaine:<br>
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<b><i><span style="font-size: large;">"In 1963 the Secret Service or any federal agent who found evidence marked it so that there was a clean trail."</i></b></span><br>
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I've archived my 2012 discussions with Mr. Blaine at my webpage <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-secret-service-and-ce399.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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So, that brings up another thing to add to this discussion about Mr. Landis and his bullet "discovery"....<br>
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Why didn't Landis put his mark on the bullet that he says he handled on 11/22/63?<br>
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Has anyone ever seen any "PL" or "PEL" (for Paul E. Landis Jr.) initials on Bullet CE399? I haven't.<br>
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That would <i>really</i> be a bombshell discovery if somebody could find Landis' initials on that bullet.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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I wonder where the "Landis Bullet" is located in relation to the sprawled-out Clint Hill in this rare photo below?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Fred Litwin, in <b><a href="https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-paul-landis-really-find-a-bullet">this article</a></b> on his website, posted a quote from <i>The Columbus Dispatch</i> newspaper dated November 20, 1988, which confirms something that is also found in <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjQFyU_r9HcPp_1v9bXdhHrQWFrzB3zcQYK3xb3yAhiueWuuo4uLNkr3YkjJg4XPDISTZdT9_PO43BCs9IeWJxwgzvGvrevZ91CowfAE5LZZSx559jEOEp4-DJBuTiZ6o4jVnmpbSDv2-7LYfFSQ6JWrH7ZA7B5NTbds5A2nVuOoGfO6W3FpzsyUtLV-IY/s2000/The-Coshocton-%28Ohio%29-Tribune-Nov-20-1983%20%28Ex-Secret%20Service%20Agent%20Witnessed%20Assassination%29.jpg">this November 1983 newspaper article</a></b> that I posted online two days ago:<br>
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The 1988 paper (seen in the pictures below), like the 1983 Associated Press newspaper article that I previously posted, says that Mr. Landis "picked up" a bullet "fragment" (not a whole bullet) and "handed" that fragment "to somebody".<br>
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So we now have two different newspaper accounts in the 1980s, <i>five years apart</i>, of Paul Landis saying to two different reporters that he had picked up only a "fragment" of a bullet, and that he had given that fragment <b>"to somebody"</b> (vs. Landis himself carrying any type of bullet or fragment into the hospital).<br>
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Also note that in the 1988 article seen below, the reporter/interviewer has placed quotation marks around these key words:<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><i><b>"I distinctly remember there was a bullet fragment on the seat which I picked up and handed to somebody."</i></b></span><br>
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So the reporter in 1988 is representing those words as having been directly spoken by Paul Landis. It's not being represented as merely something coming from the <i>interviewer's</i> memory of what Landis said, because there are quotation marks around that entire sentence.<br>
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The fact that we now have access to <b>two</b> different newspaper articles featuring interviews with Paul Landis that include the exact same information, with those articles and interviews being conducted some five years apart, virtually guarantees that Mr. Landis was not "misquoted" in either article concerning those two key "fragment" and "gave it to somebody" issues.<br>
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And Landis is, indeed, <b><a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/culture/newest-jfk-twist-agents-explosive-story-conflicts-with-forgotten-earlier-one/">now saying that he <i>was</i> misquoted</a></b> in at least one publication concerning those two important elements of his story. But the notion that two different interviewers (one in 1983 and another in 1988) <i>both</i> made the same mistakes and misquoted Landis in the exact same manner when it comes to <i>both</i> of those bullet-related issues does not seem to me to be a very credible or believable argument for Mr. Landis to be making.<br>
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FWIW....<br>
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Here's what I think happened....<br>
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Paul Landis really did see and pick up a bullet <i>fragment</i> (not a <i>whole bullet</i>) off of the back seat of the Presidential limousine at Parkland Hospital on November 22, 1963. He then might very well have given that fragment to someone else nearby, with that person never being identified.<br>
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And, it would seem, that particular bullet fragment which Mr. Landis handled never came to light as evidence either. But we must keep in mind that a lot of tiny fragments from the fatal head shot that were probably scattered all over the car and in Dealey Plaza were never introduced as official evidence either. After all, more than half of the bullet that struck President Kennedy in the head was never found or recovered at all.<br>
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But now, in 2023, for some unknown reason, that bullet <i>fragment</i> (which he gave to someone else at Parkland on 11/22/63) has now been embellished by Mr. Landis and has morphed into a <i>whole bullet</i> (the CE399 "stretcher bullet" or so-called "magic bullet"), with Landis embellishing things further by also now saying he took that whole bullet into the hospital himself and placed it on JFK's stretcher in the emergency room.<br>
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So, in my opinion, Mr. Landis' current story probably <i>does</i> contain a layer of truth in it, which is very common among witnesses who have, shall we say, <i>enhanced</i> or <i>added things</i> to their assassination stories over the years (with Jean Hill, Roger Craig, and Buell Wesley Frazier coming to mind as three such examples).<br>
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I think Paul Landis probably <i>did</i> see (and perhaps also pick up) a small bullet fragment in the limousine. That's the "layer of truth" that exists in his account. And the two newspaper articles from the 1980s cited above tend to confirm that "layer of truth". But the remainder of Landis' current 2023 story just simply cannot be believed, in my opinion.<br>
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My thanks to Fred Litwin for tracking down and providing me with the above screen captures from the 1988 newspaper article.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513927">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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It's highly doubtful that the 1983 interview with Landis was "incorrectly reported", as Sandy Larsen speculated above. In fact, it's almost impossible to believe such a thing happened (unless you want to believe the very same <b>TWO</b> mistakes/assumptions about the "bullet fragment" and "gave to somebody" occurred in both 1983 and again in 1988), because in November 1988, five years after his '83 interview, a different reporter <i>quoted</i> Landis saying this:<br>
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<i><b>"I distinctly remember there was a bullet fragment on the seat which I picked up and handed to somebody."</i></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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BTW / FWIW....<br>
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Here's another 1983 newspaper (pictured below) featuring the same article about Paul Landis that I've already linked to previously, except that in this 11/22/83 paper from Greenfield, Ohio, the author of the article is also shown ("Tim Curran, Associated Press Writer").<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513979">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Vince, I really haven't the slightest idea what Landis' motive might be.<br>
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Mr. Landis certainly gives the appearance of being a very forthright and truthful person. And I certainly don't relish the notion of calling him an outright teller of deliberate falsehoods. But the fact remains: <i>He changed his story significantly over these last 40 years</i>. I don't think there can be any question about that fact after you take a look at the two newspaper clippings I have posted above.<br>
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Perhaps his advanced age has taken its toll on his memory and his ability to be able to recall things clearly and correctly. But when we've got TWO <i>different</i> interviews from the 1980s (when Mr. Landis was a much younger man) which are verifying BOTH of the key elements of his "bullet" story --- i.e., it was a bullet <b>"fragment"</b> he saw/handled and <b>"gave to somebody"</b> --- then it seems pretty clear what the truth really is when it comes to Mr. Landis' 11/22/63 involvement with any type of "bullets" or "fragments" in the limo.<br>
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Mr. Landis, IMO, needs to be confronted with <b>BOTH</b> of the above newspaper articles at the same time, which each say the very same thing concerning the matter of the "bullet fragment".<br>
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I'd be interested to know if Landis thinks he was misquoted in <b>both</b> of those articles, <i>five years apart</i>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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I suppose that Paul Landis could, if he wanted to, now start saying that he did indeed retrieve a bullet "fragment" from the limo and "gave it to somebody", but he <b>ALSO</b> saw and picked up a "whole bullet" on the back seat and took it into the hospital. And the reason he never told a single soul about the "whole bullet" <i>ON THE DAY OF THE ASSASSINATION</i> was because.....well.....uh.....um.....<b>[fill in your own choice of reasons here, because I can't think of a single good one myself]</b>.<br>
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But I think that even <i>that</i> opportunity may have passed Mr. Landis by, because I read a few days back that Landis has, indeed, claimed he was "misquoted" in one of the earlier newspaper articles.<br>
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So he now needs to have <b>BOTH</b> the '83 and the '88 articles shoved before his eyes <i>at the same time</i> while a live microphone awaits his response.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513992">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But in addition to the 1983 and 1988 interviews, there's also <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513983">this book excerpt</a></b> supplied by Vince Palamara from the 2010 book that Landis was a part of (<b><i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q7E0YK">"The Kennedy Detail"</a></i></b>), in which Landis seems to be confirming the part about finding only a <b>FRAGMENT</b>, with that fragment being located <i><b>"in the back where the top would be secured"</i></b>.<br>
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So there are <b>TWO</b> things there (in the 2010 book) that perfectly match what Landis was saying in 1983 -- <i>"fragment"</i> and the <i>"top"</i> of the back seat (vs. just the "back seat").<br>
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But now, in 2023, that "fragment" found on the TOP of the back seat has been changed by Mr. Landis into a WHOLE BULLET that he found on the TOP of the back seat.<br>
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So the <b>location</b> of the found bullet item has remained the same in Landis' accounts from 1983 to 2023, but the <b>size</b> of that item has grown quite a bit indeed.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">RICHARD SMITH <a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3783.msg150575.html#msg150575">SAID</a>:</span></b><br>
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I can't believe he [Paul Landis] would confirm finding the bullet fragments in his original report but omit reference to finding an entire bullet.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But Landis <b>doesn't</b> confirm any such finding of even bullet FRAGMENTS in his two reports from Nov. '63. He doesn't say a word about finding <b>ANY</b> type of "bullet" item(s) <b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/Sa-landi.htm">here</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARTIN WEIDMANN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Are we to believe none of <b><a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3783.msg150606.html#msg150606">these things</a></b> happened, simply because it wasn't mentioned in a report?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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And, therefore, I guess we're supposed to believe that when Paul Landis wrote his very lengthy report on 11/30/63, this was his state of mind:<br>
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<span style="font-size:123%;"><i><b>I'd better mention in my written report these three rather unimportant things that I saw and took into the hospital with me (the hat, the purse, and the cigarette lighter), but I don't think I really need to mention anything about this WHOLE BULLET that I also took into Parkland Hospital and placed at the foot of President Kennedy's stretcher.</i></b></span><br>
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Yeah, why don't we all just go ahead and believe that was truly Paul E. Landis' state of mind on November 30, 1963.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JON BANKS SAID:</span></b><br>
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If you didn’t follow the proper procedures for discovering evidence and creating a chain of custody, would you mention the evidence in your report?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yes, I would. I'd like to think I'm honest enough to do that. And I would have also included in my report the REASON for why I moved the piece of evidence in the first place.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29661-paul-landis-could-be-right-after-all-heres-how/?do=findComment&comment=514115">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Sandy, in your last post above, when you said [prior to editing that post] <i><b>"he [Paul Landis] found a whole bullet on top of the seat (where one's butt sits)"</i></b>, did you mean for that sentence to appear <b><font color="darkred"><font size="3">in red</b></font></font></b> (as "speculative")?<br>
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Because if not, then you've got it wrong, because Landis is definitely NOT saying he found the whole bullet on the back seat itself (i.e., where a passenger actually sits). He's claiming the whole bullet he found was up on TOP of the back seat <i><b>"where the cushioning meets the trunk of the car"</i></b> (direct quote from Landis in his recent September 12, 2023, NBC interview, seen below). <br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29661-paul-landis-could-be-right-after-all-heres-how/?do=findComment&comment=514148">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAUL BACON SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29661-paul-landis-could-be-right-after-all-heres-how/?do=findComment&comment=514144">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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In some of Mr. Landis' recent spate of interviews, he has definitely implied that it's his opinion that the whole bullet he allegedly found in the limo was, indeed, Bullet CE399. He says as much in <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyGGxvDIuTo">this interview</a></b> from four days ago (Sept. 14th, 2023). In that interview, at the <b>4:50</b> mark, Landis says that the whole bullet found by Darrell Tomlinson is <i><b>"my bullet; that's the bullet I found"</i></b>.<br>
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So, based on those remarks, Mr. Landis certainly seems to be of the opinion that the whole bullet he (allegedly) found was CE399.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL GRIFFITH SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29661-paul-landis-could-be-right-after-all-heres-how/?do=findComment&comment=514157">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You're not even close to being correct in your last post, Mr. Griffith. A single "fragment" being found by Paul Landis in the back of the limousine doesn't do the Lone Gunman scenario a bit of harm. As I said before, over <b>HALF</b> of the head-shot bullet was never recovered at all. So why would it be surprising to have some small fragments from the head shot left in the limo where President Kennedy was located?<br>
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It's certainly not a matter of there being <i>too many head-shot fragments</i> seen and/or recovered (despite what Michael Griffith said in a prior post), because not even close to the entire head-shot bullet was ever seen or recovered.<br>
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The best that conspiracy theorists can possibly do regarding this matter of "fragments" being found in the BACK SEAT of the limo is to gripe about the fact that whoever did see and/or pick up any such small head-shot fragments didn't bother to place those fragments into the official record of the JFK case (for some unknown reason).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL GRIFFITH SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29661-paul-landis-could-be-right-after-all-heres-how/?do=findComment&comment=514160">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You can't possibly be serious.<br>
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You <i>really</i> believe that <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0434a.htm">these two fragments</a></b> taken from JFK's head (CE843), which weighed 1.8 grains, plus the fragments seen in <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0061b.htm">this X-ray</a></b> plus <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0433b.htm">these three small fragments</a></b> recovered from under Nellie Connally's seat in the limo (which were said by Robert Frazier to weigh a total of 2.3 grains) plus the 65.6 grains of total weight that exists in the two large front-seat bullet fragments (21.0 grains for one of the fragments and 44.6 grains for the other, per Robert Frazier's Warren Commission testimony)....you want to believe that all of those fragments, when added together, weighed more than approximately 160 grains (which is the average weight of a Carcano bullet)?<br>
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Let's add them up.....<br>
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<b>1.8 + 2.3 + 65.6 = 69.7 grains.<br>
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Weight of Oswald's unfired bullet = Approx. 160 grains (but some people have said it's as high as 161).<br>
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Unaccounted for weight = 90.3 grains (which would include the fragments left in JFK's skull, which were never weighed, of course).</b><br>
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But even if we assume, for the sake of argument, that those bullet fragments that were left in JFK's head weighed a total of 90 grains (which is, of course, a ridiculously high weight estimate for such tiny little fragments), that would still leave 0.3 grains unaccounted for (or 1.3 grains if you want to go with a pre-fired bullet weight of 161 instead of 160).<br>
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I guess perhaps you want to theorize that the one "Paul Landis" bullet fragment (which I have acknowledged) was a really, really big one, is that it? We'll never know the weight of any Landis Fragment, of course, since the person that Landis said he gave that fragment to apparently did a disappearing act and never placed the fragment into evidence. But you can always guess as to the weight. But you'd better guess pretty high, because that's the only way you're ever going to get the total weight of the head-shot bullet to exceed 160 grains.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MAX HOLLAND SAID (VIA AN E-MAIL DISCUSSION):</span></b><br>
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David,<br>
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By your count, how many versions/iterations are there of the Landis recollection?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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As of the time I'm writing this post on September 26, 2023, I think there are five versions of Paul Landis' "bullet" story, with versions 2 and 3 being virtually identical. I'll outline those versions and variations below:<br>
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<b>Version #1:</b> November 1963. In this earliest version, via two separate Secret Service reports (one of which is extremely long and detailed), Landis doesn't say a word about seeing or finding any type of "bullet" or "bullet fragment":<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/Sa-landi.htm">PAUL LANDIS' REPORTS (11/27/63 & 11/30/63)</a></b></span><br>
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<b>Version #2:</b> November 1983. In this version, which appeared in at least two Ohio newspapers, Landis tells Associated Press writer Tim Curran that <i><b>"there was a bullet fragment on the top of the back seat"</i></b> which Landis said he <i><b>"picked up and gave to somebody"</i></b>:<br>
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<b>Version #3:</b> November 1988. This version is nearly identical to Version 2, with the only difference being that Mr. Landis, in 1988, doesn't specifically say he found the fragment "on top" of the back seat. In his 1988 interview, he merely says he found a fragment <i>"on the seat"</i>.<br>
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But another key difference in this 1988 article is the fact that the reporter/writer has placed quotation marks around the key words being spoken by Mr. Landis, indicating that these words (shown below) are not just a mere paraphrasing on the part of the author of the article, but instead represent a direct and verbatim quote coming from the mouth of Paul E. Landis Jr.:<br>
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<i><b>"I distinctly remember there was a bullet fragment on the seat which I picked up and handed to somebody."</i></b><br>
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<b>Version #4:</b> 2010 (in the book <i>"The Kennedy Detail"</i>). In this version, like the 1983 and 1988 newspaper accounts, Landis says he saw a bullet "fragment" in the back portion of JFK's limousine. But in this 2010 version, unlike the earlier articles from the 1980s, Mr. Landis doesn't say anything about giving the fragment to another person. Instead, he says he placed the fragment <i>"on the seat"</i>.<br>
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Here's the complete excerpt concerning Landis and the <i>"bullet fragment"</i> as it appears on Page 225 of the 2010 book <i>"The Kennedy Detail"</i> (with thanks going to Vincent Palamara for providing the screen capture linked below):<br>
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<i><b>"When Agent Paul Landis helped Mrs. Kennedy out of the car he saw a bullet fragment in the back where the top would be secured. He picked it up and put it on the seat, thinking that if the car were moved, it might be blown off."</i></b><br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2n9ghNYsh3MU_EzLDrjVfTEfXToXbU53LB8SwxUBp7cFhOVMR1L-CvfB34PpEZE4GgwKP0pYRVJZ3UF0sHpp1tLS8loBAXwwA222qPeO2ayRdUdxJ7x_E0ul4WEikzQk2Bzqffvpg5Slf8HFqxQ8QPiyKw2S2t4j3T4fXqi7NUyMQIcXUw4TyAFQvC9E/s2000/The-Kennedy-Detail-2010-Book-Page-225.jpg">PAGE 225 OF "THE KENNEDY DETAIL" (2010)</a></b></span><br>
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<b>Version #5:</b> Landis' current version, which first surfaced publicly in September 2023, which has Landis now saying he saw and picked up a <i>whole bullet</i> off of the top portion of the back seat of the Presidential limousine on 11/22/63, with Mr. Landis, unlike all previous statements he has ever made concerning the discovery of any type of "bullet" material, now claiming to have put that whole bullet in his pocket and then carrying it himself into Parkland Hospital where he then placed the whole bullet at the foot of the stretcher being occupied by John F. Kennedy in Trauma Room #1.<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciFP5Deh36w">INTERVIEW WITH PAUL LANDIS (SEPT. 12, 2023)</a></b></span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOE BAUER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29688-groubert-says-paul-landis-is-handled-by-jim-robenalt/?do=findComment&comment=515195">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Mr. Landis is now, in 2023, clearly not a person who believes in the <b><a href="http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com">Single-Bullet Theory</a></b>. And as such, I can't help but wonder why the blurb pictured below still occupies space on <b><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1641609443">Landis' book page</a></b> at Amazon.com?<br>
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Landis has stated in some of his interviews this month [September 2023] that he thinks Lee Oswald <b>WAS</b>, indeed, the sole assassin in Dallas. But, as all of us here at <i>The Education Forum</i> know, if the SBT goes down the tubes, then it's almost impossible (barring some kind of miracle) for there to have been only one shooter in Dealey Plaza.<br>
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Which means that Mr. Landis is simply not very well-informed when it comes to certain things relating to the assassination (e.g., the timing of the gunshots and analysis of the Zapruder Film).<br>
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Or....<br>
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Perhaps Mr. Landis has another "bombshell" waiting for us when his book is released on October 10th, 2023, and perhaps he's going to tell us how (in his opinion) Lee Harvey Oswald was able to assassinate JFK all by himself but WITHOUT the Single-Bullet Theory being a part of the equation.<br>
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Because without some sort of explanation to logically and reasonably explain to his readers how the Lone Assassin scenario is still valid (even without the SBT), then this blurb below doesn't make much sense at all....<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BENJAMIN COLE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29688-groubert-says-paul-landis-is-handled-by-jim-robenalt/?do=findComment&comment=515237">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I just noticed that James Robenalt has a <b><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Robenalt">Wikipedia page</a></b>, and on that Wiki page we find this (FWIW):<br>
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<span style="font-size:120%;"><i><b>"Robenalt helped former Secret Service agent Paul Landis "process his memories" of the JFK Assassination, enabling Landis to write his memoir The Final Witness (2023)."</span></i></b><br>
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The source used for the above quote is Peter Baker's recent [September 2023] <b><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230909195105/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/09/us/politics/jfk-assassination-witness-paul-landis.html"><i>New York Times</i> article</a></b>.<br>
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The term <i>"process his memories"</i> is quite interesting, isn't it?<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513147">September 9-26, 2023</a><br>
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<a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3784.msg150396.html#msg150396">September 14, 2023</a><br>
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<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29688-groubert-says-paul-landis-is-handled-by-jim-robenalt/?do=findComment&comment=515233">September 28, 2023</a><br>
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-40022961178028415672023-08-01T02:05:00.175-07:002023-08-28T18:34:21.922-07:00 JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS (PART 1367) <br><base target="_blank">
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Part 1367 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>August 1—31, 2023</b>. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BILL BROWN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29517-was-tippit-at-lancaster-and-8th/?do=findComment&comment=510897">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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FWIW....<br>
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In J.D. Tippit's last radio transmission concerning his location, I definitely can hear a "K" (or hard C) sound being uttered by Tippit, which almost certainly eliminates "Lansing" from the mix. And while the "S" in Lancaster can't be discerned, I think the "er" at the end of "Lancaster" can be heard. Sounds like an "er" to my ears anyway. It's at 5:04 in <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGOMmxBUlh5Z2xYems/view">this video</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GERRY DOWN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29517-was-tippit-at-lancaster-and-8th/?do=findComment&comment=510927">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I'm not hearing even a hint of an <b>S</b>. But I'm certainly hearing the <b>K</b> sound, plus the <b>ER</b>.<br>
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I've looped the Tippit transmission several times <b><a href="https://app.box.com/s/enys622i9ra63fe59jtn6xjhwjeb8lfi">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MERVYN HAGGER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29523-the-amazing-crime-solving-arrest-capabilities-of-the-dallas-police-department/?do=findComment&comment=510987">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Mervyn,<br>
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The written section at the bottom of <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgBQsuCY_4Ah6SF6A8XmsM-2b-_n8Oj-TQMHZuZpoOTBU5FQqSj1BWGhIpGFU3MXroiGj6-3Ahm_m1cqJElMxgYCqOnnphuJnQBpG8FxNNXnjpSKwcgQtjivs857hRiEkbflU2RGjiS3WwusKW674upoA9fCQ3cVi0FtDpJ-UnTn0PKgIJVa1Oinkr_BVY/s795/Oswald-Arrest-Report.jpg">this arrest report</a></b> showing the <i>"other details of the arrest"</i> was quite obviously not written at 1:40 PM (the time noted at the top of the card). Those details had to have been placed on that arrest card at a time considerably later than 1:40. In fact, there's no way that <i>anything</i> on that card was written as early as <b>1:40 PM</b>, because Oswald wasn't even arrested in the theater until about <b>1:50 PM</b>, and much of the information shown on the card wasn't confirmed by the Dallas police until much later than 1:40.<br>
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Therefore, given the above time factors, this statement made by Mervyn Hagger — <i><b>"But within one hour, the Dallas Police Department has solved two murders and arrested the lone suspect. Simply amazing police work. Not"</i></b> — is not a fair or accurate statement at all.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MERVYN HAGGER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29523-the-amazing-crime-solving-arrest-capabilities-of-the-dallas-police-department/?do=findComment&comment=511005">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But as far as that particular <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgBQsuCY_4Ah6SF6A8XmsM-2b-_n8Oj-TQMHZuZpoOTBU5FQqSj1BWGhIpGFU3MXroiGj6-3Ahm_m1cqJElMxgYCqOnnphuJnQBpG8FxNNXnjpSKwcgQtjivs857hRiEkbflU2RGjiS3WwusKW674upoA9fCQ3cVi0FtDpJ-UnTn0PKgIJVa1Oinkr_BVY/s795/Oswald-Arrest-Report.jpg">"Arrest Card"</a></b> is concerned, we cannot possibly know exactly what time (or even what <i>day</i>, for that matter) that arrest report was written out. (I know of no specific info in the Warren Commission volumes that gives us that precise information. Do you?)<br>
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But one thing I <i>do</i> know for certain (based on logic and common sense) is this --- that arrest report most certainly was <b>NOT</b> written up at 1:40 PM CST on 11/22/63. Not even close. It was filled out much later than that.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MERVYN HAGGER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29523-the-amazing-crime-solving-arrest-capabilities-of-the-dallas-police-department/?do=findComment&comment=511008">THIS</a> AND <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29523-the-amazing-crime-solving-arrest-capabilities-of-the-dallas-police-department/?do=findComment&comment=511009">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Mervyn, are you really suggesting that <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgBQsuCY_4Ah6SF6A8XmsM-2b-_n8Oj-TQMHZuZpoOTBU5FQqSj1BWGhIpGFU3MXroiGj6-3Ahm_m1cqJElMxgYCqOnnphuJnQBpG8FxNNXnjpSKwcgQtjivs857hRiEkbflU2RGjiS3WwusKW674upoA9fCQ3cVi0FtDpJ-UnTn0PKgIJVa1Oinkr_BVY/s795/Oswald-Arrest-Report.jpg">this arrest report</a></b> was written at 1:40 PM Dallas time on November 22nd?<br>
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You surely aren't <i>seriously</i> advocating such an absurd position regarding that DPD arrest report....are you? Because it couldn't be more obvious that that report was filled out much later than 1:40. (As I mentioned before, Oswald wasn't even in custody until 1:50 PM!)<br>
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As to the possibility of the arrest report in question being a fake document, I really don't know for sure. But unlike a lot of conspiracy promoters, I'm not a person who is constantly claiming that documents have been manufactured by the authorities in order to frame the so-called patsy named Oswald. Therefore, I have no good reason to believe it's a phony document.<br>
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As for the conclusions reached by the Dallas Police Department at the bottom of the arrest report, I agree 100% with those conclusions. Based on the evidence, Oswald did, indeed, kill JFK and Officer Tippit.<br>
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But I'm not contradicting my own approach to "hard evidence", Mervyn. And the arrest report isn't really "hard evidence" anyway. It's merely a brief report providing us with the <i>opinion</i> of the people at DPD who were at that time processing and evaluating the "hard evidence" in the Kennedy and Tippit murder cases.<br>
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I'm merely using my common sense to evaluate the <i>timing</i> of when the Oswald arrest report was created (which you don't seem to be factoring in at all). Given all the information we have concerning the gathering of the physical evidence against Lee Oswald, plus the "time" factors of <i>when</i> the Dallas police became aware of certain things concerning Oswald, I think it's safe to say that that arrest report was filled out much later than 1:40 PM on Nov. 22.<br>
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Now, you might want to argue that the Dallas police shouldn't have been so bold as to place this definitive statement on their Oswald arrest report:<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><i><b>"This man shot and killed President John F. Kennedy and Police Officer J.D. Tippit."</i></b></span><br>
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But, based on the overwhelming evidence of Oswald's guilt that was collected within the first few hours after both Kennedy and Tippit were murdered, such a statement can, indeed, be looked upon as a wholly accurate one.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">STEVE THOMAS SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29523-the-amazing-crime-solving-arrest-capabilities-of-the-dallas-police-department/?do=findComment&comment=511044">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Thanks, Steve, for providing <b><a href="https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339964">this link</a></b> to the full-sized (non-truncated) version of the Oswald arrest report being discussed in this thread (also seen below).<br>
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Now we know it's not a fake report, and we now know who the author of the report was (Dallas Police Officer M.N. McDonald).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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<b><a href="https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337609">Click Here</a></b> to see another version of the arrest report which doesn't include the "Deceased" stamp. This version also includes an extra charge: "Assault to Murder" (related to the wounding of John Connally).<br>
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And a third different version can be seen <b><a href="https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth190315">here</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MERVYN HAGGER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29523-the-amazing-crime-solving-arrest-capabilities-of-the-dallas-police-department/?do=findComment&comment=511076">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I had no idea Mervyn Hagger was so far out there in the "outer fringe".<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29523-the-amazing-crime-solving-arrest-capabilities-of-the-dallas-police-department/?do=findComment&comment=510998">August 16-17, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MERVYN HAGGER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29527-where-did-the-description-of-the-killer-come-from/?do=findComment&comment=511136">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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There is absolutely nothing odd or suspicious or "far out" about the KLIF Radio 11/22/63 broadcasts. Nothing.<br>
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When the topic of <i><b>"What Radio Station Was Johnny Brewer Listening To On Nov. 22?"</i></b> came up in 2019, I did a lot of work tracking some of the radio broadcasts I have in my collection. And at one point during that discussion [<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1317.html">archived here</a></b>], I provided this info....<br>
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<span style="font-size:120%;"><i>"But it depends on which "shooting" you're referring to. If you mean the Tippit shooting, then I think you're right---there was no radio report regarding the shooter's description put out within 15 minutes (or so) of the Tippit murder. But there was most definitely a "description" of President Kennedy's assassin broadcast on the radio, and that description was aired on KLIF Radio (the station that Tony Krome just said Brewer was listening to) as early as 12:54 PM (Dallas time), which would corroborate what Brewer said to Eddie Barker in his CBS-TV interview in 1964 when Brewer said this:<br>
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"Right after the President was shot, they broadcast a description on the radio of this man..."<br>
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If, in fact, Brewer was listening to KLIF Radio that day, the description he would have heard at 12:54 PM would have initially come from a female telephone operator at the Dallas Police Department, who quickly provided the description of the alleged Presidential assassin for a KLIF reporter who was recording the phone call for later broadcast. The description she provided was: <b>"White male, 30 [years old], 5-10, 165, 30-caliber rifle, and I believe it was at Elm and Houston where it came from; now I don't know definitely and I don't like to say."</b> [The audio can be heard <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MYMx4thJGC4kIV-5po9BwVZBHl507S15/view">HERE</a></b>.]"</i> <b>-- DVP; <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25724-first-radio-report-on-tippits-shooting/?do=findComment&comment=399146">April 19, 2019</a></b></span><br>
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In reviewing my KLIF Radio files again just now [on August 17, 2023], there was a partial description of the assassin provided by KLIF even earlier than the 12:54 broadcast linked above.<br>
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That earlier description was reported by KLIF's Joe Long at 12:46 PM (per the timestamps provided throughout the KLIF coverage), which would have been just two minutes after the APB bulletin had been put out on the DPD radio system at 12:44 PM. Which almost certainly means that Joe Long and KLIF were monitoring the Dallas Police Department calls on a police radio of their own just after the assassination occurred.<br>
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Listen to the 12:46 PM description of the suspected assassin <b><a href="https://app.box.com/s/vropjc0ix8mf0a8g4vcgpaewb7s3xlo4">here</a></b>.<br>
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I suppose the very early 12:46 PM description of the suspect aired by KLIF is the thing that makes Mervyn Hagger think something is fishy about the KLIF Radio assassination coverage. But Mervyn's suspicions go up in smoke if the KLIF reporters were, in fact, monitoring the DPD radio frequency on a police scanner on Nov. 22nd, which almost certainly had to be what happened that day.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MERVYN HAGGER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29527-where-did-the-description-of-the-killer-come-from/?do=findComment&comment=511166">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You can tell by listening to just a little of <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2012/03/klif-radio.html">KLIF Radio's assassination coverage</a></b> that KLIF is a very efficient news-gathering organization. Joe Long's coverage of the day's tragic events on 11/22/63 was second-to-none in quality, competence, and professionalism, in my opinion.<br>
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And it should also be noted that the KLIF Radio reporters didn't just "rip and read" the news coming in from the wire services. They were actively <i>seeking out</i> as much news as they could get from the available sources, such as calling up the Dallas Police Department (twice) prior to 12:54 PM to try and pry some information out of their telephone operator. Plus, KLIF talked to various people at the Trade Mart and at Parkland Hospital as the events unfolded as well.<br>
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So the KLIF staff wasn't just sitting around on their rear ends waiting for the bulletins to come to them. They were going out and getting a lot of the early news that day for <i>themselves</i>.<br>
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And part of that news-gathering process, quite obviously, included monitoring the DPD radio calls within minutes of the shots being fired at the President. In fact, as I was re-listening to my KLIF files last night, at one point I heard what certainly sounds like chatter from a police radio/scanner in the background as KLIF reporter Joe Long was on the air live [go to <b>1:44:26</b> in <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2ERm-cucsE0am4tTzhuUmhKaUE/view">this video</a></b>].<br>
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Another solid indication that shows the likelihood that the KLIF reporters were, indeed, monitoring the DPD radio system comes at the <b>1:38:15</b> mark in the KLIF video I just linked above. At that point in the broadcast, you can hear Joe Long say this:<br>
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<span style="font-size:121%;"><b><i>"There was that sudden call, 'All units report Code 3 in the downtown area to Elm & Houston'."</i></b></span><br>
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The above words are almost exactly the words that were uttered by the Dallas police dispatcher over the DPD radio at 12:41 PM. See the transcript of the DPD Radio Tapes <b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/dpdtapes">here</a></b>.<br>
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So when somebody (such as, say, a Mr. Mervyn Hagger) suggests that there was no possible way for the KLIF reporters to have <i>legitimately</i> acquired the information they gathered about the description of the Presidential assassin as quickly as they gathered it, then I think the best and most appropriate response to counter such an allegation is this one:<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><i>Bullshit!!</i></span><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29527-where-did-the-description-of-the-killer-come-from/?do=findComment&comment=511148">August 17-18, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MERVYN HAGGER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29530-don-von-peins-chart-topping-hit-tunes/?do=findComment&comment=511292">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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That 1962 song ("Point Of No Return" by Gene McDaniels, which first cracked the Top 40 on <b><a href="https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Billboard/60s/1962/Billboard%201962-09-01.pdf#page=4">September 1, 1962</a></b>, when it climbed to #36 on the Billboard "Hot 100" chart) just happened to be the next record queued up on the turntable for disc jockey Rex Jones to play on radio station KLIF in Dallas in the minutes just after the assassination occurred and prior to the time KLIF cut off all regular programming. There was nothing even remotely sinister or "sick" about it at all.<br>
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But once an outer-fringe conspiracy theorist's imagination starts working overtime, there's no limit to the amount of "sinister and sick" things he can dream up out of pure whole cloth. And that's just exactly what Mervyn Hagger's imagination has been doing lately—working overtime—with respect to his absurd allegations against Gordon McLendon and KLIF Radio.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MERVYN HAGGER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29530-don-von-peins-chart-topping-hit-tunes/?do=findComment&comment=511330">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You're right when you say I know virtually nothing about Mr. Gordon McLendon. But I really don't need to know anything at all about him to know with 100% certainty that your theory is just plain bunk concerning KLIF playing certain songs on Nov. 22 because those songs contained some kind of hidden messages or cryptic lyrics concerning the President's death. That's just plain crazy, and all reasonable and sensible people know it's crazy.<br>
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Let me guess....<br>
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You, Mervyn, also probably believe that the television announcer at the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth on the morning of 11/22/63 had advanced knowledge that President Kennedy was going to be killed later that day when he started telling the viewing audience all about President McKinley's 1901 assassination (at <b>17:03</b> in <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8UwZ588YcqIOTBvNTR6aXhqTUE/view">this video</a></b>).<br>
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Do you think that chatter about McKinley's assassination is suspicious or sinister in some way, Mervyn? If not, you'd better put your imagination into overdrive and catch up, because a lot of other conspiracy fantasists are already aboard that sinking ship, including the CTers who created <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/evidence-of-revision.html">this awful documentary</a></b>.<br>
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The fact that you, Mervyn, seem to actually believe that KLIF Radio in Dallas was part of some kind of "psyops" operation on 11/22/63---complete with Tommy Roe and Gene McDaniels playing unwitting parts in your fantasy via their Top 40 hits---is quite possibly one of the most ridiculous theories I've ever heard any conspiracy fantasist come up with since I first got interested in the JFK murder case in 1981.<br>
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Congratulations on the achievement.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29530-don-von-peins-chart-topping-hit-tunes/?do=findComment&comment=511328">August 19-20, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29537-how-oswald-was-framed-for-the-murder-of-tippit/?do=findComment&comment=511337">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The only way you can conclude that Lee Oswald did <i>not</i> purchase (and take possession of) "that handgun" (i.e., Smith & Wesson Revolver No. V510210) is to totally ignore all the evidence that tells us he <i>did</i> purchase it --- <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-42.html">CLICK HERE</a></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID (ON <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-33.html">FEBRUARY 13, 2010</a>):</span></b><br>
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The ARRB was not an "investigative" committee. But, for some reason that I will never understand, Jeremy Gunn (and ARRB Chairman John Tunheim too, I guess) was/were talked into taking testimony from various medical witnesses, even though the ONLY thing the ARRB was responsible for was overseeing the release to the public of the various records and documents concerning JFK's assassination. Nothing more.<br>
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But thanks to a mega-kook named Douglas P. Horne, who joined the ARRB staff a year or two after it was originally created, apparently the ARRB's mandate and scope changed significantly. And I can't help but ask (and wonder) -- Why?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BEN HOLMES SAID <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/rVxRfBDXzWY/m/qs56I1rDAAAJ">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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<i>"Congress did not, however, direct the Review Board to draw conclusions about the assassination, but to release assassination records so that the public could draw its own conclusions. Thus, this Final Report does not offer conclusions about what the assassination records released did or did not prove. Rather, it identifies records that the Board released and describes the processes and standards that the Board used to release them."</i> <b>-- ARRB Final Report; <a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/report/html/arrb_fin_018.htm">Page xxi</a></b><br>
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<span style="font-size:136%;">Also see <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#Doug-Horne">these webpages</a></b>.</span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN CORBETT SAID:</span></b><br>
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Furthermore, Doug Horne has absolutely no medical credentials. He is a military man and was brought onboard to oversee the release of the military records. Since the autopsy was conducted by the military, those records were under his jurisdiction. His recycling of the David Lifton body snatching theory was nothing more than the musings of an incompetent layman. The corpse altering theory was dumb when Lifton proposed it and even dumber when Horne added his own embellishments.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BEN HOLMES SAID:</span></b><br>
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You [DVP] asserted that there was something strange about their [the ARRB] taking of testimony. You're a liar.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The "taking of testimony" of the various medical witnesses was most certainly <i>not needed at all</i> in order for the ARRB to complete its mission/mandate of releasing all of the various previously unreleased records and documents to the American public.<br>
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Also see the excerpt below from Vincent Bugliosi's book "Reclaiming History", in which Vince talks about how <i><b>"certain overzealous members of the ARRB staff took it upon themselves to go beyond the ARRB's limited mandate to release assassination-related documents, and decided to investigate what they perceived to be certain acts of conspiracy in the assassination"</i></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">AN ANONYMOUS CONSPIRACY THEORIST CALLING HIMSELF “SKY THRONE” SAID:</span></b><br>
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The irony is that on her final [<i>"What's My Line?"</i>] show, Dorothy [Kilgallen] thought that the celebrity guest was Marilyn Monroe, even though Monroe had died 3 years before. Was she really that sloshed?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Nonsense. Dorothy thought nothing of the kind. The name "Norma" can apply to people other than just Marilyn Monroe.<br>
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<b><i><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2014/05/whats-my-line-november-7-1965.html">http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/What's My Line? (Nov. 7, 1965)</a></i></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">"SKY THRONE" SAID:</span></b><br>
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Dorothy knew Marilyn, and certainly knew that she was not the mystery celebrity on her final show...and yet she asked [Joey] Heatherton if her "real name" was Norma. DVP will not find another Norma that makes sense. He will just run away. So why would Dorothy on her last show cryptically point to Marilyn Monroe?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Good! More conspiracies!<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">"SKY THRONE" SAID:</span></b><br>
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Name another celebrity at the time whose real name had been Norma! .... Who are all of those other "Norma's" you had in mind?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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No idea. But there obviously was at least one "Norma" that Dorothy had in mind. Because she certainly didn't just forget that MM was dead.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">"SKY THRONE" SAID:</span></b><br>
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DVP retreats to the circular reasoning of his Nutter Retard hamster wheel. He finds it comforting!<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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It's called "logical thinking" and "reasonable inference" and "discounting things that are silly and ridiculous".<br>
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You, Mr. "Throne", being a conspiracy fantasist, wouldn't know what those things are all about, however.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JONATHAN COHEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29566-education-forum-in-need-of-pr/?do=findComment&comment=512177">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Indeed, Jonathan. Plus there's the continual embarrassment that about 90% (perhaps even more) of the conspiracy theorists <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/forum/126-jfk-assassination-debate/">here</a></b> at <i>The Education Forum</i> should be experiencing on a daily basis when they continue to embrace such absurd and wholly unprovable theories like these for years on end:<br>
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<b>1.</b> The second-floor Baker/Truly/Oswald encounter <i>never even happened at all</i>.<br>
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<b>2.</b> Lee Oswald didn't carry <i>any large-ish paper bag at all</i> into the Book Depository on 11/22/63.<br>
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<b>3.</b> Lee Oswald never ordered <i>any rifle at all</i> from Klein's Sporting Goods and <i>never once even touched</i> Carcano Rifle No. C2766.<br>
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<b>4.</b> Lee Oswald <i>never even went to the Cuban and Russian embassies in Mexico City at all</i> in September of 1963.<br>
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<b>5.</b> Ruth Paine was up to her neck in conspiracy and patsy-planting in the weeks prior to Nov. 22nd.<br>
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<b>6.</b> Captain Fritz and other DPD officers were part of a pre-arranged plot on 11/24/63 which allowed Jack Ruby to have easy access to the City Hall basement in order to kill Lee Oswald.<br>
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....And so many more embarrassing theories that have been featured over and over again on <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/forum/126-jfk-assassination-debate/">this forum's</a></b> pages.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BENJAMIN COLE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29566-education-forum-in-need-of-pr/?do=findComment&comment=512200">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I provide my "tumbling bullet" thoughts <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1147.html">here</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BENJAMIN COLE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29566-education-forum-in-need-of-pr/?do=findComment&comment=512210">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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There are many different reasons why the Single-Bullet Theory should be accepted as being true (all discussed <b><a href="http://Single-Bullet-Theory.blogspot.com">here</a></b>).<br>
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The "tumbling bullet" isn't the be-all/end-all deciding factor for the SBT's validity. Because even if the bullet—<b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#CE399">Commission Exhibit No. 399</a></b>—wasn't tumbling at all as it entered the upper back of Governor Connally in Dealey Plaza, the SBT is <i>still</i> most certainly <i>the</i> most reasonable solution.<br>
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In fact, with or without any "tumbling", the SBT is the <b>only</b> truly <i>reasonable</i> and <i>sensible</i> solution that explains the initial wounding of JFK and all of Connally's wounds.<br>
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Here are a few SBT-related points I've made in the past that deserve a replay every now and then:<br>
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<i>"Let me ask the following question one more time (I've made this inquiry in the past as well, without receiving any satisfactory answer from any anti-SBT conspiracy theorist):<br />
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If the animation project authored by Dale K. Myers is dead wrong in its depiction of the Single-Bullet Theory as being a one-bullet scenario that is not only POSSIBLE, but very, very likely a rock-solid FACT in all respects, then I want to know HOW in this wide world of ours it would have been even remotely possible for Dale Myers to have stuck <b>THAT CLOSE TO THE REAL EVIDENCE</b> in the case and to have produced a <b><i>BOGUS</i></b> animation (as CTers believe he has done) that comes so incredibly close to what a true and NON-BOGUS animation would have looked like? <br />
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To clarify what I mean by that --- The depiction of the victims (JFK and Connally) in <b><a href="https://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/kframe.htm">Myers' animation</a></b> (along with the general configuration of the limo and of Dealey Plaza and of the TSBD and of Elm Street, etc.) are certainly NOT so far "out of whack" that any CTer can look at it and say this: <br />
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<i><b>"Myers is full of shit here! He doesn't have this model even CLOSE to being accurate in any way!"</i></b><br />
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So, even if the anti-SBT crowd wants to nitpick about the size of John Connally's head in Dale's 3D model, or about the height of the limo's crossbar seen in the animation.....those same CTers haven't a leg to stand on when it comes to the big-ticket question that no conspiracist has EVER been able to reconcile--and that question is: <br />
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If the SBT is only a wet dream of "Warren Commission shills" (et al), then how in the world did multiple gunmen firing multiple bullets (usually at least THREE missiles, per CTer accounts) into the bodies of two victims manage to MIMIC A PERFECT (or damn near perfect-looking) SINGLE-BULLET EVENT with those multiple bullets? <br />
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I'm still waiting for a single SBT-hating conspiracy theorist to logically and believably answer the above question. <br />
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In short, the Single-Bullet Theory makes a whole bunch of (common) sense. Especially when placed up against <b>ANY</b> alternate scenario that might be used to try and knock it down."</i><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">-- DVP; April 18, 2008</b></span><br />
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<i>"And isn't it amazing that there just happened to be another bullet hole on the opposite side of JFK's body to meet the "SBT" needs of Mr. Specter, et al?<br />
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Has any conspiracy theorist in history ever made this basic observation?....<br />
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<span style="font-size:117%;"><i>Boy, those assassins were sure a bunch of lucky sons of bitches when the guy who shot JFK in the throat from the front managed to hit Kennedy in <b>exactly the right spot on his body</b> so that (later on) the official investigators could utilize that <b>entry</b> wound in the throat as the point of <b>exit</b> for the SBT bullet. And then the multiple assassins got even luckier when the upper-back bullet <b>and</b> the bullet that entered the throat <b>both decided not to exit the body</b> and then <b>both of those bullets vanished into puffs of smoke</b> before either of those bullets (which obviously <b>were</b> still inside JFK's body when he was inside Trauma Room No. 1 at Parkland Hospital) could be seen by any non-conspirator.</i></span><br />
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Can anyone <i>truly</i> believe that such incredible good fortune could possibly have existed amongst the (alleged) multiple shooters who were (allegedly) firing bullets at President Kennedy on 11/22/63?<br />
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(And yet CTers have the gall to tell me that <span style="font-size: large;"><i><b>I</i></b></span> am the one who believes in "Magic Bullets". Oy vey!)"</i><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">-- DVP; July 1, 2018</b></span><br>
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<i>"[Many conspiracy theorists] require absolute perfect to-the-millimeter perfection in a Single-Bullet Theory re-creation before [they'll] even <i>begin</i> to consider it valid. But, realistically, it's just not reasonable to expect an event like this to be able to be re-created right down to the last inch. <br />
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In my opinion, however, <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/sbt-perfection-of-ce903.html">CE903</a></b> comes very close to SBT perfection (even though I realize that the 17.72-degree angle isn't <i>exactly</i> right, since it's an angle for the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/12/ce903-part-3.html#Angles">equivalent of Z217.5</a></b> and not what I believe is the true SBT Z-Film frame of Z224).<br />
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So, if you want to say I <i>"want it both ways"</i>, okay. But the Z217.5 angle seen in CE903 is so incredibly close to being "perfect", why would I quibble with it and raise hell with Mr. Specter & Company (especially since I fully realize that <i>complete and total</i> "perfection" is not a reasonable expectation)?"</i><br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">-- DVP; July 3, 2018</b></span><br>
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<i>"Another line of reasoning that could be utilized by LNers is this one:<br>
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After Bullet CE399 exited JFK's throat, it DID NOT tumble into John Connally's back at all, and the reason for the elongated (15 mm.) size of Connally's back wound was due merely to a tangential strike, which is exactly the same explanation given by the Warren Commission on page 86 of its Final Report to explain the 15-millimeter size of the entrance wound in Kennedy's head.<br>
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Hence, there was also a very small wound of exit in Kennedy's throat--which, given the "tangential strike" explanation for Connally's back wound, would "solve" another supposed problem that conspiracists often bring up -- i.e., Why did the bullet suddenly start to tumble into Connally's back even though it left a nice round wound in Kennedy's throat, which is more indicative of a NON-tumbling bullet that it is a tumbling missile?<br>
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The above scenario is, however, in conflict with the majority of Dr. Lattimer's tests, which are tests that resulted in 5 out of 6 bullets that tumbled into the Connally target after having gone through a simulated Kennedy neck.<br>
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But, anyway, it's some food for "Tumbling vs. Tangential" thought, I think."</i><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MERVYN HAGGER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29566-education-forum-in-need-of-pr/?do=findComment&comment=512233">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The "Magic Bullet" topic is getting "rehashed" in this thread too because it's so much fun seeing the CTers at <i>The Education Forum</i> go into their <b>Denial Mode</b> whenever the subject of the SBT comes up.<br>
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How the conspiracists of this planet manage to sidestep the logic of the SBT is beyond my capacity to understand. But nearly 100% of them have been doing it now for pert-near sixty years. Very strange indeed.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Funny you should ask about that. It's an interesting story indeed.....<br>
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As a young lad collecting Topps Baseball Cards in eastern Indiana in the year 1972, I was approached one day by a man who introduced himself as a Mr. Arlen Specter. I didn't know at that time who he was, but he asked me to sit down with him in front of the Kresge's store in Richmond's Gateway Shopping Center and he then proceeded to tell me a fascinating story. It was all about this "theory" he had concerning some kind of a "Bullet" that supposedly went through two different gunshot victims during an attempted murder somewhere in the state of....uh....Texas, I think it was.<br>
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Mr. Specter then told me to "spread the word" far and wide about this "SBT" nonsense. He said that something he called "The Internet" was going to be in everybody's home in about 20 or 25 more years, and when I grew up, he wanted <i>me</i> (of all people) to start up all kinds of "blogs" (whatever the hell those are) (????). And he wanted these "blog" things to all focus attention on JFK and this "SBT" thing he kept yammering about.<br>
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I didn't know what to think. Frankly, this Specter guy sounded like a nut. But he brainwashed me thoroughly (of course), so what could I do? I had no choice but to do as he said. And so, 35 years later, in August of 2007, I started my career as an <i>Official JFK Assassination Disinformation Agent</i>.<b>*</b><br>
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<b>*</b> I had also spent the previous four years [2003-2007] as an ADA (<i>Apprentice Disinfo Agent</i>), mainly at Debra Conway's <i>JFK Lancer</i> forum.<br>
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It's not a very fun job (~sigh~), but I can't complain about the salary. (Plus the regular checks from the <i>Arlen Specter Disinfo Estate</i> keep coming in every month too. So that's another perk.)<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CHARLES COLLINS SAID:</span></b><br>
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Morphing Memories....<br>
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Buell Frazier is but one example [of] someone perhaps having a morphing memory. We haven’t seen any evidence of his morphing until recent years. But human memories can morph over time. Maybe a discussion of this is in order.<br>
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I am going to give an example based on a real event from about 50 years ago. While still barely teenagers but the drinking age lowered to 18 for a short while, some friends and I went to town to see an up and coming band (but mainly to drink beer). <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4g0gaPYFYUdfZ0YoFyYYWaeKkOXPu6GFP7axm_wV08vFCL6eFZbza-u_A8eAy9FgFlew8843Z9Y0qUnPiC0nze-E9KU9a1mteKxSKTsDoB36SEsP6_4DfXldye45ArVGlkVdWAmXWlgrdLNeiQwLPx8r2jD0iJw9lw0x1W5HndP66LLETXaula6zEQ1g/s1000/Band.jpg">Here’s a photo</a></b> of that band that was taken some 6 months before we saw them.<br>
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If you didn’t recognize them, that is Lynyrd Skynyrd before they became well known. Here is my memory of that night:<br>
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We got there early and snagged a table right in front of the stage, maybe 10 feet from the band. The pitchers of beer flowed all evening. Sometime later, one of our group said something like “Hey, there’s someone who looks like Mick Jagger.” I thought to myself “no way.” I don’t remember seeing Mick Jagger or anyone that looked like him. I do remember a discussion as we were returning to the car about how good Lynyrd Skynyrd was.<br>
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Now, here is the memory of one of my friends. He is currently a very healthy and fit individual and happily married and enjoying life. He “remembers” that Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones joined Lynyrd Skynyrd on the stage and performed together with them.<br>
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Now, I will confirm that we were all young and foolish and had had too much to drink. I can only guess that my friend had repeated the story over the years and it morphed (like a fish story) into what he actually believes at this point in time 50 years later.<br>
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I got away from the heavy drinking a few years after this episode. He continued to drink heavily until maybe 15 years ago. I didn’t see him for all those years but our paths crossed about 8 years ago. And he firmly believes he saw Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones that night 50 years ago.<br>
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I have researched enough to say that there is no evidence that Mick Jagger and The Rolling Stones were there that night. But I doubt that anyone could ever convince my friend that he didn’t see them.<br>
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Anyway, this might be a good thread to discuss some of the witnesses to the JFK assassination whose memories appear to have morphed over the years. I already mentioned Buell Frazier, who else would anyone like to discuss?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL CAPASSE SAID:</span></b><br>
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I'm not aware of Buell's story morphing. He has been consistent for 60 years. How has it morphed?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CHARLES COLLINS SAID:</span></b><br>
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Here is a snip from Buell Frazier’s 11/22/63 affidavit:<br>
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<b><i>"I did not see Lee anymore after about 11:00 AM today, and at that time, we were both working, and we were on the first floor."</i></b><br>
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These days he claims that he saw LHO walking up Houston Street beside the TSBD soon after the assassination.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:</span></b><br>
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Charles Givens’ story morphed between November 22 and his WC testimony.<br>
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Warren Reynolds’ story morphed after he was shot in the head.<br>
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Nick McDonald’s story morphed every time he re-told it.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CHARLES COLLINS SAID:</span></b><br>
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Morphing memories (as I am defining them) are ones that change character entirely. I am not interested in memories in which small details might be misremembered, because that is normal for us humans.<br>
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For an example of a morphing memory, as I define it, if Buell Frazier had really seen LHO walking up Houston Street after the assassination, I don’t think that there is any way he could have forgotten that when he swore that he didn’t see LHO after 11:00 am when he made his affidavit on 11/22/63.<br>
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Also, the WC testimonies included questions by the investigators which were meant to bring out additional details that might not have been included in earlier statements. So, that type of thing isn’t really a morphed memory, as I am defining it.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL CAPASSE SAID:</span></b><br>
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Certainly Buell could have forgotten he had seen Lee for a brief moment in his one-time answer on an affidavit. I was referring to his consistency regarding the bag he saw. I'm not aware of that story changing in 60 years. .... Are we talking about stories that morph or minor details changed that don't really matter?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CHARLES COLLINS SAID:</span></b><br>
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Going from <i>didn’t see him after 11:00 am</i> to <i>saw him walking up the street after the assassination</i> is a major morph. .... Buell Frazier didn’t say a word about supposedly seeing LHO on Houston Street after the assassination until he wrote a book fifty something years later and was trying to sell it. Yes, he has been consistent regarding the size of the bag. But that is not the same as being correct.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN IACOLETTI SAID:</span></b><br>
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That’s false. His [Buell Frazier's] first public telling of the story of seeing Oswald on Houston street (that I’m aware of) was in an interview with Gary Mack in 2002. “Steering Truth” [Frazier's book] was published in 2021.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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As John has mentioned above, Buell didn't wait <i>quite</i> 50+ years to start telling his "I saw LHO on Houston St." story. AFAIK, it was <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-979.html">this interview</a></b> with Gary Mack in 2002 in which that particular addition to Buell's story first surfaced.<br>
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Buell then, in later interviews (and in his book), started "adding" more things to his story (see <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1349.html">this link</a></b>).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CHARLES COLLINS SAID:</span></b><br>
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Thanks guys, I stand corrected. So, it was only about 39 years after the assassination that Buell Frazier announced his morphed memory.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Correct. That is, unless Buell did some other lengthy interviews prior to the one in 2002. But I know of none. He did some very brief on-camera appearances for various JFK anniversary documentaries prior to '02, but no long interviews (that I know of).<br>
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During his Warren Commission <b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/frazierb1.htm">testimony</a></b> in March of 1964, some four months after he wrote his 11/22/63 affidavit, Buell Frazier also said just what he had said in that <b><a href="https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fnUXqaMoRpw/TvxpsigRUwI/AAAAAAAABzY/mDQwRYPV0lE/s7000-h/Buell-Wesley-Frazier-Affidavit.png">Nov. 22 affidavit</a></b>---that he had not seen Lee Oswald at all after the late morning hours on 11/22:<br>
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<b>JOSEPH BALL --</b> When was the last time you can remember you saw Lee?<br>
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<b>BUELL WESLEY FRAZIER --</b> You mean on the 22nd?<br>
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<b>MR. BALL --</b> On the 22nd, that day.<br>
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<b>MR. FRAZIER --</b> Somewhere between--it was after 10 and somewhere before noon, because I remember I was walking down to the first floor that day, that was the only time I went up on the elevator was, like I say, for a few minutes and, I put that box of books up and put it down, and I was on the first floor putting up books all day and I seen him back and forth and he would be walking and getting books and put on the order.<br>
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<b>MR. BALL --</b> That was the last time you saw him all day?<br>
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<b>MR. FRAZIER --</b> Right.<br>
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<b>MR. BALL --</b> You didn't talk to him again?<br>
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<b>MR. FRAZIER --</b> No, sir; I didn't.<br>
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<b>PAUL LANDIS:<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/OAfWthTt1d4/m/_cSBJklNAAAJ">https://alt.conspiracy.jfk/OAfWthTt1d4/m/cSBJklNAAAJ</a><br>
<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/06/paul-landis.html">http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/Paul E. Landis, Jr.</a><br>
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J.C. DAY AND OSWALD'S PALMPRINT:<br>
<a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3783.msg150623.html#msg150623">https://jfkassassinationforum.com/topic=3783/message=150623</a><br>
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<a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3783.msg150763.html#msg150763">https://jfkassassinationforum.com/topic=3783/message=150763</a><br>
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THE CLARK PANEL:<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/page/9/#comment-513467">https://educationforum.com/topic=29610/comment=513467</a><br>
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DONALD WAYNE HOUSE:<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29525-the-amazing-crime-solving-arrest-capabilities-of-the-fort-worth-police-department/?do=findComment&comment=514373">https://educationforum.com/topic=29525/comment=514373</a><br>
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BART KAMP AND "PRAYER MAN":<br>
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DOMINGO BENAVIDES AND T.F. BOWLEY:<br>
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OSWALD'S ALIBI:<br>
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<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=514474">https://educationforum.com/topic=29481/comment=514474</a><br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/?do=findComment&comment=514613">https://educationforum.com/topic=29481/comment=514613</a><br>
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QUOTING COMMON SENSE:<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/0d1suweC97I/m/ZCqg1cdFAwAJ">https://alt.conspiracy.jfk/0d1suweC97I/m/ZCqg1cdFAwAJ</a><br>
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MISCELLANY:<br>
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-1842454536338982622023-07-01T01:00:00.139-07:002023-08-01T14:49:40.443-07:00 JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS (PART 1366) <br><base target="_blank">
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Part 1366 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>July 1—31, 2023</b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The discussion archived below doesn't involve any JFK Assassination "Arguments", but it's something I wanted to save here anyway. It's an <br>e-mail discussion I had in April of 2021 with Mr. Phil Gries, the owner of <br><b><a href="https://www.atvaudio.com/AboutUs.php">Archival Television Audio, Inc.</a></b> ....<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b>Thursday, April 8, 2021....</b></span><br>
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<b>PHIL GRIES ASKED:</b><br>
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Have you ever come in contact with another home recordist like myself who audio recorded coverage of the JFK [Assassination] off of network and local television and/or radio?<br>
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No, I sure haven't. You, Phil, stand alone in that unique category. And I doubt there will ever be anyone else on Earth to ever join you in that <b><a href="https://www.atvaudio.com/ata_search.php?keywords=NBC%27S%20FIRST%20LIVE%20BULLETINS%20AND%20LIVE%20COVERAGE%20OF%20THE%20ASSASSINATION%20OF%20PRESIDENT%20JOHN%20F.%20KENNEDY">exclusive 11/22/63 club</a></b>.<br>
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<b>PHIL GRIES SAID:</b><br>
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May I ask how you were able to obtain such prolific amounts of radio and television coverage of the JFK assassination AS IT HAPPENED? Since NONE of the audio on your amazing (A TRULY IMPRESSIVE WEB SITE) <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com">JFK 100 plus hours</a></b> are from ORIGINAL RECORDED audio or video sources in your possession?<br>
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<b>DVP SAID:</b><br>
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I have been asked that question many times. So to keep from having to type out my answer every time, I created <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9qr97k2-peA/XifS7R__DHI/AAAAAAABTfo/YyvAcBJSJv4hCw2HT_Q-WwM0kv-beUlgwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/April-10-2018-Email-Concerning-DVPs-Video-Collection.png">this image</a></b> of an e-mail exchange I had in 2018.<br>
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<b>PHIL GRIES SAID:</b><br>
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Do you have a listing representing your own personal audio/video [baseball] recordings, pre-1980?<br>
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<b>DVP SAID:</b><br>
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No, I don't. But if you go to my <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2012/04/baseball.html">"Baseball"</a></b> pages, you can find all the games I've archived [mostly Cincinnati Reds games]. Many of the Reds games from 1979 to early 1986 are the ones that are derived from my own audio cassette tapes.<br>
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And about the only other (non-baseball) things that I recorded myself are the items I discussed in a previous e-mail---i.e., O.J. Simpson Trial Closing Arguments, 9/11 Coverage, and JFK Jr.'s Death. (Plus some game shows off of the Game Show Network when they featured "Sunday Night In Black-and-White".)<br>
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BTW / FWIW / FYI --- Probably the "rarest" audio recording I have was actually recorded by my brother in July 1976. (I rescued the original cassette tapes from the trash heap a few years ago.) It's a <b><a href="http://dvp-video-audio-archive.blogspot.com/2014/12/cincinnati-reds-game-july-21-1976.html">Reds/Mets baseball game</a></b> that includes things you're not likely to find on any other archived broadcast taped off of the Cincinnati Reds Radio Network (WLW-AM 700 being the flagship station).<br>
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And WLW in Cincy is the same station, btw, that saved almost all of its JFK Assassination coverage from 11/22/63 and 11/23/63. I acquired over 30 hours of that WLW 11/22 material from a guy on the Internet in 2008. And in many ways that WLW Nov. 22-23 coverage is the crown jewel of my whole JFK collection. (You've probably seen my <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2012/03/wlw-radio.html">WLW pages</a></b> already. If not, go visit them. It's an extraordinary time capsule.)<br>
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I'm often searching the Web for any such similar "long-form" type of radio (or TV) coverage from ANY other station in the USA, but to date I have found no other station in the U.S. which has archived all of its assassination coverage. If you ever come across such material that you know I don't already possess (long-form or short-form), please give me a shout. Because I'd love to be able to add a new page to my JFK websites which boldly proclaims: <i>55 Hours Of JFK Assassination Coverage From WLS Radio In Chicago, Illinois</i>.<br>
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I keep looking though. I still feel there's likely a lot of untapped radio stuff from 11/22 that's still out there---somewhere.<br>
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<b>PHIL GRIES SAID:</b><br>
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Over the years, have you ever come across any WNEW 1130 AM RADIO 11/22/1963 AUDIO AIR CHECKS RELATED TO LIVE BROADCASTING WITH JIM VAN SICKLE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE IKE PAPPAS TAPE RECORDING (6:03 POSTING ON YOUR JFK WEBSITE)?<br>
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<b>DVP SAID:</b><br>
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No, I have not. The only WNEW Radio material I have is the <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGORHAyQXpjQXVwM2c/view">incredible Ike Pappas recording</a></b> from the DPD basement.<br>
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Regards,<br>
David V.P.<br>
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<span style="font-size:166%;"><b>Related discussion <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/11/dvp-interview-number-two.html#Phil-Gries">HERE</a>.</b></span><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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This is another non-"argument" post, but I wanted to highlight the following video links that all point to interviews that were conducted in the late 1950s by Mike Wallace. Some of these are rather fascinating:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">....</span></b> Wallace interviews 12-year-old "child genius" <b><a href="https://hrc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15878coll90/id/42/rec/43">Leonard Ross</a></b>. Ross' brilliant life came to a tragic end at the young age of 39 when he committed suicide in 1985. [<b><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Ross">Wikipedia Link</a></b>.]<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">....</span></b> <b><a href="https://hrc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15878coll90/id/39/rec/24">Eleanor Roosevelt</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">....</span></b> <b><a href="https://hrc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15878coll90/id/40/rec/40">Jean Seberg</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">....</span></b> <b><a href="https://hrc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15878coll90/id/52/rec/66">Anthony Perkins</a></b>.<br>
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More interviews at the link below:<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
July 5, 2023<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I was recently made aware of the following television newscast, which was broadcast on the evening of November 22, 1963, by the United Kingdom's ITV (Independent Television) Network.<br>
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My thanks go out to Stephen May for providing me with the information about the existence of this rare British coverage of JFK's assassination:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size:174%;">A YouTube DISCUSSION....</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">LUKE BROWN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Very surprised as a British citizen that ITV news in London had so much information on Oswald's defection and personal life only a few minutes after his arrest. Suspicious London media knew more about Oswald as a suspect than American mainstream media. Given the time difference between the two countries, Britain seems suspiciously well informed. I think RFK Jr. is right to question the involvement of the CIA in the murder of his uncle.<br>
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But it's not just "a few minutes" after Oswald's arrest. Assuming <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uU84HVHTQ6eW8Dz6bh0C9FNgPCjZWAhD/view">this video</a></b> hasn't been chopped up and edited (and it doesn't appear to have been edited, IMO), then that ITV program was being aired at least 3 hours after Lee Oswald was arrested. (I'm basing my "3 hours" figure on the fact that the ITV announcer at one point says that JFK's body has arrived back in Washington, which did not happen until about 6:00 PM EST, which would have been 11:00 PM in the U.K.; and Oswald was arrested a little before 3 PM EST, 2 PM Dallas time.) That's plenty of time for the Brits to get all the info on Oswald.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">LUKE BROWN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I'm very reluctant to argue too much with you, as I'm incredibly grateful to you for all your fantastic uploads over the years. And to be brutally honest, it's an absolute honour for me that you have responded to my post. I have absolute respect for your minute-by-minute detailed knowledge on the subject given your incredibly large and fantastic archive.<br>
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Normally I would push back against your comment to me if it was made by almost anybody else, but given the fact I know how much more knowledgeable you are on this subject than me, I fully accept your correction of my previous comment.<br>
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Thank you for your brilliant work over many years, and please keep uploading your great archive of videos. You perform an incredibly important service for amateur history buffs like me.<br>
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Thank you, Luke. Good to meet you.<br>
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One more note....<br>
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It's possible I'm all wrong about the chronology of <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uU84HVHTQ6eW8Dz6bh0C9FNgPCjZWAhD/view">this ITV British program</a></b>. But if I <i>am</i> wrong, it means that whoever originally put together that video must have edited it considerably. But I don't get the sense that it has been edited (or "pieced together") at all. It seems to flow in one continuous stream. And if it is continuous (i.e., unedited), that must mean it aired in England at about 11:00 PM or so (British time), based on the reporter's comment about JFK's body having already arrived back in Washington.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">LUKE BROWN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Thank you for replying.<br>
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In my first comment, I was responding to the statement made by the newsman @ 1:25: <i>"...his body [President Kennedy] is to be flown back to Washington."</i> Said in the <i>now</i> tense, and I had only watched the news report once at that point, but I agree with you, it was probably hours later because the report does seem seamless, and it's a real pleasure to meet you too, albeit only in the YouTube chat.<br>
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Looking forward to new gems you always manage to find and post.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Thanks, Luke.<br>
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BTW / FWIW....<br>
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There's one more thing that is said during an early portion of the ITV video which also indicates that that particular news program was being broadcast several hours after JFK's death, and that is when the reporter doing the "Street Interviews" segment says that President Kennedy was assassinated <i>"about four hours ago"</i>.<br>
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And those street interviews were very likely recorded some time earlier for later broadcast. (They certainly don't seem to be "live" interviews, given the way they're edited together.) So by the time those street interviews were aired on the ITV network, even more time had elapsed since the assassination had occurred, beyond just the four hours mentioned by the interviewer.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
July 7-9, 2023<br>
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The latest addition to my <b><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2013/03/kennedy-gallery-307.html">November 1963 Newspaper Archive</a></b>....<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
July 8, 2023<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Here are some newspaper clippings from 1968 and 1971 that I found to be quite interesting. These four clippings focus on Jackie Kennedy and her new husband, Aristotle Onassis. Click to enlarge each page:<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
July 12, 2023<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Someone on Facebook today [July 23, 2023] re-posted <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLm1rWngiWmxh2Ho9VfVZHfl64M_h-q-CsRCboR_67cOEHhDntJlo42V1jm20RKC1gsEiX4UcCb_5b8WC6fop01fXnpKH2tYzSiLtmtM2kL5mdD_BkEtjHKNUJXRFtJDUNu9uHE5OEnaPUQSQBwKAU37XkvfscSWl7HhyShWMOmbJY-MW-8o2cAFAddu0/s1944/LHO-1962--Post.jpg">this 2019 Facebook post</a></b> which includes the following photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald, which purports to be a picture taken aboard the ship <i>S.S. Maasdam</i> in 1962 when Lee was on his way back to the USA from Russia (click to enlarge):<br>
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Maybe the above photo is old news to many people, but I had never seen it before today.<br>
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One skeptical person at Facebook asked:<br>
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<i>If that's really LHO in that photograph, then where's Marina?</i><br>
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I suppose that's a fair question to ask, since we know that Marina (plus her baby daughter, June) was, indeed, also aboard the Maasdam for that long journey across the Atlantic in June of '62.<br>
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But perhaps Marina and the baby were there with Lee, but at the time when the picture was being taken, maybe Marina had to get up from the table and tend to the baby. (Diaper change perhaps?)<br>
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Or: Perhaps Marina and the baby never went to the dining room with Lee for this particular meal at all. However, it does, indeed, look like some food and drink is present on the table (opposite from Lee), suggesting that Lee was not sitting alone at his table.<br>
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But was it Marina's food and drink, or perhaps someone else's? We can never know, of course.<br>
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Isn't it fun when a "new" picture pops up out of nowhere occasionally?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=508630">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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FWIW, here's a short passage from Vince Bugliosi's tome relating to the Oswalds' voyage on the Maasdam (click for a bigger view):<br>
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To see the two sets of answers that Lee Oswald wrote in preparation for the press interviews that never materialized upon his return to America, <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JWivIhdJp0RAeCBvs5mXSTPJ3XOAPhmX/view">CLICK HERE</a></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/27885-kennedy-related-photos/?do=findComment&comment=508624">July 23, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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On July 23, 2023, Paula Bosse, who operates the excellent blog called <b><a href="https://flashbackdallas.com">"Flashback: Dallas"</a></b>, re-posted something she had originally written back in 2010, and I got such a big kick out of her post, I wanted to link to it here on my own blog.<br>
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It's a post titled <b><i><a href="https://flashbackdallas.com/2023/07/23/jury-duty-at-the-old-municipal-building-not-for-the-faint-hearted/">"Jury Duty at the Old Municipal Building, Not for the Faint-Hearted"</a></i></b>.<br>
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Here are two comments that were left by a couple of Paula's readers, including myself....
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">STEVEN UANNA SAID:</span></b><br>
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A beautiful building. It’s wonderful that it was restored. Architecture makes a powerful statement and implies that the occupants of a building have the strength and integrity of the structure.<br>
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I see that they altered the entrance leading from the basement parking garage into the building. Why would someone change the place Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald? Maybe because that’s where certain members of the Dallas Police set Lee up to be shot?<br>
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For years I thought Lee was brought down the inner main hall to his death. And Detective Jim Leavelle promoted that idea in an interview in the newly renovated basement hallway.<br>
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Watch <i>“Captain Fritz signaling Ruby to move in”</i> on YouTube. “We were coming down the hall” Leavelle tells the interviewer.<br>
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You can see how it looked in 1963 on YouTube at <i>“Jack Ruby’s Timely Time Stamped Visit To Western Union”</i> (start at 13:00).<br>
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Then watch <i>“That Day In Dallas by Steven Cooper”</i> on YouTube. Leavelle brought Lee down the elevator in the booking room.<br>
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There are a number of videos that show Detective Leavelle doing some fancy side stepping out of that side door to get into the middle of the entrance way. That door is blocked over now along with the door that was across from it. They removed the original double doors and installed glass double doors further out into the garage area.<br>
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Leavelle is right in one thing he says. The lights were very bright. The lights were coming from behind where Ruby was standing. It looks like Lee spotted Ruby but then the lights hit him in the eyes and he looked away, Ruby moved in. Then they took Lee back in that side door and behind the booking desk. Tending to him.<br>
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Don’t be afraid. The Kennedy assassination is complicated because it was so well choreographed. Just like Leavelle’s fancy footwork out into the entranceway. This case is begging to be solved.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Hi Paula,<br>
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What a fantastic post you wrote in 2010 concerning your torturous experience at old Dallas City Hall. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed reading it. I'm still laughing pretty hard. (Although, at the time, I'm sure it wasn't very humorous to you.)<br>
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I fear that fellow commenter Steven Uanna has been reading too many JFK conspiracy books (and watching way too many YouTube videos filled with more crackpot JFK assassination theories than you can shake a stick at). Because there was, of course, nothing even slightly sinister or covert about the way that Dallas Homicide Captain J. Will Fritz and Detective James R. Leavelle behaved as they escorted Lee Harvey Oswald into the basement of Dallas City Hall on November 24, 1963.<br>
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Captain Fritz most certainly was not “signaling Ruby to move in”. And the “fancy footwork” that Mr. Uanna thinks was being exhibited by Jim Leavelle is something that exists only in the fertile imaginations of many inventive conspiracy theorists.<br>
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Extended coverage of Oswald being shot by Jack Ruby can be seen at my website below:<br>
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Mr. Uanna thinks the assassination of President Kennedy is a case that is “begging to be solved”. But, in reality (i.e., here in the "real world" where outlandishly improbable conspiracy theories are never taken seriously by reasonable people), the case <i>has</i> been solved. And it's been solved, just as it should have been, by utilizing and <i>properly evaluating</i> the <i><b>actual evidence that exists in the case</i></b> (with virtually all of <b><a href="http://oswald-is-guilty.blogspot.com">that evidence</a></b>, of course, pointing directly at one person—Lee Harvey Oswald).<br>
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In fact, for the most part, the murders of both John F. Kennedy and Dallas policeman J.D. Tippit were solved even before Oswald took his last breath at Parkland Hospital on 11/24/63.<br>
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Anyway, putting the constant "Conspiracy vs. Lone Nut" controversy aside, my thanks (again) go out to Paula Bosse for not only <b><a href="https://flashbackdallas.com/2023/07/23/jury-duty-at-the-old-municipal-building-not-for-the-faint-hearted/">this fabulous "Municipal Building" blog post</a></b>, but also for all the other many interesting and absorbing posts she has written over the last several years at her <i>"Flashback: Dallas"</i> website.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
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The JFK documentary below was made public on YouTube on July 24, 2023. It's called <i><b>"The Kennedy Assassination: Inside The Book Depository"</i></b> and was created by a "30-something Swedish guy" who runs the YouTube channel known as <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@LEMMiNO/videos">"LEMMiNO"</a></b>.<br>
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And this talented fellow from Sweden evidently has quite a large following there at YouTube, because his Kennedy video embedded below has amassed more than 3-million views in just its three days of existence.<br>
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It's a darn good video too—very (very!) good, in fact—featuring stellar graphics, music, and narration. I was quite impressed by just about everything in this video, including the common sense and logic that exists within the video's narration and (most importantly) the accuracy of the evidence and testimony that was presented throughout the 98-minute program.<br>
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That last comment I just made should have given away the following fact --- the video definitely was <i>not</i> made by a conspiracy theorist.<br>
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About the only mistake I could find in the video (either evidence-wise or typo-wise) is when Marilyn Sitzman's first name is misspelled. Not a bad record for an hour-and-a-half production about the JFK case.<br>
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Given the tremendous amount of detail that had to have gone into the graphics work, research, sourcing, and voiceover narration for this video, this impressive project must have taken a very long time to complete. I applaud "Lemmino" for his diligent efforts. I, for one, think those efforts were worth it.<br>
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Here's the video:<br>
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To see the complete (and huge) list of sources utilized for the above <br>video, <b><a href="https://www.lemmi.no/p/the-kennedy-assassination-inside-the-book-depository?reference=1">GO HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/UFy86ovoHfY/m/Uf8tcHgPAgAJ">July 28, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size:204%;">AN INTERNET DISCUSSION CONCERNING PAUL LANDIS' ALLEGED BULLET DISCOVERY:</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JONATHAN COHEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513145">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I, myself, find it nearly impossible to believe former Secret Service agent Paul Landis' story (which Landis evidently tells in his new 2023 book, <b><i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1641609443">"The Final Witness"</a></i></b>) about finding a bullet <i><b>"resting on the top of the back of the seat"</i></b> of the Presidential limousine (which is a quote from <b><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/new-jfk-assassination-revelation-upend-lone-gunman">this 9/9/2023 <i>Vanity Fair</i> article</a></b> written by James Robenalt).<br>
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How on Earth could a whole bullet have managed to have been located in that odd position on 11/22/63? <i>"Resting on the top of the back of the seat"</i>? Without Clint Hill ever noticing it or disturbing it, even though Hill was <b><a href="https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aNOOYSIdUrA/VF7I3Bzm9VI/AAAAAAABBDQ/VuUgTq-RzrE/s1600/JFK-Limousine-On-Way-To-Hospital-11-22-63.jpg">clinging to the back of the car</a></b> all the way to Parkland? Highly doubtful.<br>
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And even more importantly, why wouldn't Agent Landis have told someone else in authority (<i>anyone else!</i>) that he had picked up a bullet and moved it to President Kennedy's stretcher?<br>
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It makes no sense whatsoever for Landis to have remained totally silent about finding (and moving) such a bullet in the limo on November 22.<br>
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Did Mr. Landis think that the details about <i>where</i> and <i>how</i> the bullet was first found weren't important details at all, and therefore he felt he didn't even need to tell the Chief of the Secret Service or the FBI or anybody in Trauma Room No. 1 at Parkland about his discovery at all?<br>
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Such a mindset and behavior for a Secret Service agent is utterly ridiculous—and most certainly unbelievable.<br>
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If Mr. Landis' bullet story is to be believed, we would then have to believe that the bullet he placed on JFK's stretcher was either never noticed by anyone else in the very busy Trauma Room No. 1, or the bullet was deliberately deep-sixed and disposed of, or the bullet was moved to yet another stretcher in the hospital (Governor Connally's).<br>
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Each of the above choices, in my opinion, also resides in the category marked "unbelievable".<br>
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A 4th choice would be: The bullet was <i>accidentally</i> lost (after, of course, it was never noticed by a single living soul in Trauma Room No. 1). Yet another unbelievable option.<br>
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Below is a portion of what Special Agent Paul Landis said in <b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/Sa-landi.htm">this extremely detailed Secret Service report</a></b> that he wrote on November 30, 1963. Here's what Landis said he found <i>"on the back seat"</i> of the Presidential limo at Parkland:<br>
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<i><b>"By this time someone was lifting the President's body out of the right side of the car. Agent Hill helped Mrs. Kennedy out of the car, and I followed. Mrs. Kennedy's purse and hat and a cigarette lighter were on the back seat. I picked these three items up as I walked through the car and followed Mrs. Kennedy into the hospital."</i></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513169">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Paul Landis, following his new "revelation", really doesn't have much of a choice but to have doubts about Oswald acting alone. Because if what Landis theorizes is true (i.e., the back-wound bullet to Kennedy ended up on the top of the back seat after JFK was thrown to the rear at the time of the head shot), then that would almost certainly have to mean that a second assassin shot Kennedy in the throat with a frontal shot.<br>
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(Unless Mr. Landis wants to theorize that it wasn't a BULLET at all that caused JFK's throat wound, but instead it was a fragment from the head shot that did the throat damage, with that damage giving the false appearance of a bullet hole to Dr. Perry.) ~shrug~<br>
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But with each additional theory comes even more questions and problems. Such as:<br>
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If a single bullet didn't wound both JFK and Connally....and if the bullet that Landis allegedly found was, indeed, CE399 (which I think Landis says he believes is the case)....then what the heck happened to the bullet (or bullets) that hit Governor Connally?!<br>
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With the Single-Bullet Theory in place, of course, we don't need to ask the question I just posed above. There are no "missing bullets" with the SBT. But with the LBT (Landis Bullet Theory) in the mix of possible scenarios now, this question will always be hanging out there, never to be satifactorily answered by any conspiracy theorist:<br>
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<i><b>Where did the bullet go that struck John Connally and ended up making a shallow wound in his left thigh?</i></b><br>
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CTers can, of course, always resort to the theory that has a fragment from the JFK head shot creating the superficial wound in Connally's leg. But that still won't answer the question of: <i><b>What happened to the bullet that hit Connally?</i></b><br>
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For conspiracy advocates, it always seems to be:<br>
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<i><b>So many wounds .... So few bullets</i></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Another rather incredible claim that ex-Secret Service agent Paul Landis is now making (via the <b><i><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/09/new-jfk-assassination-revelation-upend-lone-gunman">Vanity Fair</a></i></b> article) is his claim that he saw two <i>"bullet fragments"</i> lying on the back seat as well.<br>
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Of course, as we all know, there were no bullet fragments recovered from the <b>BACK</b> seat. The two large bullet fragments (<b><a href="https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/09/ce567-and-ce569.html">CE567 & CE569</a></b>) were found in <br>the <b>FRONT</b> seat of the limousine after the car was flown back to Washington.<br>
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Some people (mostly CTers) can always claim, of course, that Agent Landis really did see a couple of bullet fragments lying on the back seat on Nov. 22, but the <i>Bucket Brigade</i> (clean-up crew) scooped those fragments up when they (allegedly) washed out the back of the limo at Parkland.<br>
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It's absolutely ridiculous and wholly unbelievable to think that a member of the United States Secret Service, right after discovering and moving a piece of very important evidence connected directly to the shooting of a U.S. President, <i><b>wouldn't have mentioned to anyone on the very day it happened</i></b> the fact that he found a whole bullet right there in the same car where JFK was murdered.<br>
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Landis' explanation for why he never uttered a word to anyone else about his bullet discovery (via the <i>Vanity Fair</i> article) is this:<br>
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<i><b>"The special agent simply never gave the bullet a second thought, he says. He had left it where someone would find it."</i></b><br>
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The above reasoning which has Landis just <i>assuming</i> that somebody in the Parkland Hospital emergency room would notice the bullet after he placed it on JFK's stretcher is, in my opinion, just not a believable excuse at all for not saying a word to anyone about his discovery, especially since Landis also readily admits in that same <i>Vanity Fair</i> article that <i><b>"he believed it was crucial evidence and needed for the autopsy"</i></b>.<br>
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So, Agent Landis supposedly finds a bullet, doesn't maintain possession of it, but then decides to not tell another living soul in the hospital about his discovery after he leaves that bullet lying on President Kennedy's stretcher?! That's just laughable and idiotic. And, of course, not the slightest bit believable.<br>
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Landis also says (again via the <i>Vanity Fair</i> article) that in later years he thought of his bullet discovery as merely <i>"a minor detail"</i>.<br>
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That's a fairly large "minor detail", if you ask me.<br>
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And nobody can possibly use the fact that Mr. Landis, in later years, suffered from PTSD, which is, indeed, unfortunate for him. But any PTSD that was suffered by Mr. Landis certainly can't explain his lack of communicating with someone (anyone!) the fact he had found (and moved) a bullet on November 22, 1963.<br>
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Here's one more reason to doubt Paul Landis' new revelation:<br>
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Landis seems to think that the bullet he says he found on the back of the Presidential limousine, which he <i>does</i> seem to believe <i>was</i>, indeed, <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/index.html#CE399">Warren Commission Exhibit No. 399</a></b>, somehow rolled off of Kennedy's stretcher and onto John Connally's stretcher at some point prior to the time when Darrell Tomlinson found the bullet on a stretcher in the corridor of Parkland Hospital.<br>
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But the timing of such a speculative "bullet-hopping" event just doesn't line up at all, as explained by author Vincent Bugliosi in the book excerpt pictured below.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513326">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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But Landis isn't talking about a <b>WHOLE</b> bullet there, Pat. He's talking only about a "fragment". Big difference.<br>
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And now Landis is saying he saw a whole bullet <b>PLUS</b> two different fragments lying on the back seat.<br>
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So that's three bullet items he's now claiming to have seen.<br>
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Yeah, right.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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While performing an online newspaper search for <i>"Paul Landis, Secret Service"</i> on the morning of September 11, 2023, I came across the 1983 newspaper article seen below, which contains an interesting passage that totally contradicts Landis' new 2023 claims. The '83 article says:<br>
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<i><b><span style="font-size:124%;">"Landis said that when he got to the Kennedy limousine outside the hospital, the president had already been taken inside, but he helped Mrs. Kennedy out. He said there was a bullet fragment on the top of the back seat that he picked up and gave to somebody."</i></b></span><br>
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So, in 1983, Mr. Landis was saying it was merely a "bullet fragment" that he picked up in the limo, which he "gave to somebody". But now, forty years later in 2023, it's a whole bullet (not just a fragment) which he didn't give to anyone but which he himself carried into the hospital and placed on JFK's stretcher.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL GRIFFITH SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513479">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I disagree very strongly with Mr. Griffith above. Mr. Landis' total silence about finding a bullet in the limo is most certainly <i>not</i> <i>"perfectly understandable"</i> to me at all. In fact, it's totally mystifying to me as to why on Earth he didn't <b>TELL SOMEONE</b> about the bullet <b>IMMEDIATELY</b> after putting it on JFK's stretcher (if, in fact, that's what he did).<br>
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And the reason for why his total silence is not believable (or "understandable") is because at the time Landis did what he said he did with that bullet, he had absolutely no knowledge or information about any of the details concerning the assassination. He had no idea who Oswald was at that time and he had no idea if a conspiracy might be involved. He knew <i><b>nothing</i></b> at that point. And yet he tells <b>NOBODY</b> about finding (and moving!) an important piece of evidence like a bullet?!<br>
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Such dead silence by a member of the U.S. Secret Service (or anyone in law enforcement) in such a situation is completely beyond belief, not to mention totally irresponsible on Landis' part.<br>
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And, in my opinion, even if it had been days or weeks or months later that he had somehow come across a piece of new evidence connected with JFK's death, it still would not be at all "perfectly understandable" that he would just keep completely silent about coming into contact with such a piece of potentially vital evidence in the case of a murdered President.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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Fred Litwin, in <b><a href="https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-paul-landis-really-find-a-bullet">this article</a></b> on his website, posted a quote from <i>The Columbus Dispatch</i> newspaper dated November 20, 1988, which confirms something that is also found in <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjQFyU_r9HcPp_1v9bXdhHrQWFrzB3zcQYK3xb3yAhiueWuuo4uLNkr3YkjJg4XPDISTZdT9_PO43BCs9IeWJxwgzvGvrevZ91CowfAE5LZZSx559jEOEp4-DJBuTiZ6o4jVnmpbSDv2-7LYfFSQ6JWrH7ZA7B5NTbds5A2nVuOoGfO6W3FpzsyUtLV-IY/s2000/The-Coshocton-%28Ohio%29-Tribune-Nov-20-1983%20%28Ex-Secret%20Service%20Agent%20Witnessed%20Assassination%29.jpg">this November 1983 newspaper article</a></b> that I posted online two days ago:<br>
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The 1988 paper (seen in the pictures below), like the 1983 Associated Press newspaper article that I previously posted, says that Mr. Landis "picked up" a bullet "fragment" (not a whole bullet) and "handed" that fragment "to somebody".<br>
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So we now have two different newspaper accounts in the 1980s, <i>five years apart</i>, of Paul Landis saying to two different reporters that he had picked up only a "fragment" of a bullet, and that he had given that fragment <b>"to somebody"</b> (vs. Landis himself carrying any type of bullet or fragment into the hospital).<br>
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Also note that in the 1988 article seen below, the reporter/interviewer has placed quotation marks around these key words:<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><i><b>"I distinctly remember there was a bullet fragment on the seat which I picked up and handed to somebody."</i></b></span><br>
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So the reporter in 1988 is representing those words as having been directly spoken by Paul Landis. It's not being represented as merely something coming from the <i>interviewer's</i> memory of what Landis said, because there are quotation marks around that entire sentence.<br>
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The fact that we now have access to <b>two</b> different newspaper articles featuring interviews with Paul Landis that include the exact same information, with those articles and interviews being conducted some five years apart, virtually guarantees that Mr. Landis was not "misquoted" in either article concerning those two key "fragment" and "gave it to somebody" issues.<br>
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And Landis is, indeed, <b><a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/culture/newest-jfk-twist-agents-explosive-story-conflicts-with-forgotten-earlier-one/">now saying that he <i>was</i> misquoted</a></b> in at least one publication concerning those two important elements of his story. But the notion that two different interviewers (one in 1983 and another in 1988) <i>both</i> made the same mistakes and misquoted Landis in the exact same manner when it comes to <i>both</i> of those bullet-related issues does not seem to me to be a very credible or believable argument for Mr. Landis to be making.<br>
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FWIW....<br>
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Here's what I think happened....<br>
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Paul Landis really did see and pick up a bullet <i>fragment</i> (not a <i>whole bullet</i>) off of the back seat of the Presidential limousine at Parkland Hospital on November 22, 1963. He then might very well have given that fragment to someone else nearby, with that person never being identified.<br>
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And, it would seem, that particular bullet fragment which Mr. Landis handled never came to light as evidence either. But we must keep in mind that a lot of tiny fragments from the fatal head shot that were probably scattered all over the car and in Dealey Plaza were never introduced as official evidence either. After all, more than half of the bullet that struck President Kennedy in the head was never found or recovered at all.<br>
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But now, in 2023, for some unknown reason, that bullet <i>fragment</i> (which he gave to someone else at Parkland on 11/22/63) has now been embellished by Mr. Landis and has morphed into a <i>whole bullet</i> (the CE399 "stretcher bullet" or so-called "magic bullet"), with Landis embellishing things further by also now saying he took that whole bullet into the hospital himself and placed it on JFK's stretcher in the emergency room.<br>
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So, in my opinion, Mr. Landis' current story probably <i>does</i> contain a layer of truth in it, which is very common among witnesses who have, shall we say, <i>enhanced</i> or <i>added things</i> to their assassination stories over the years (with Jean Hill, Roger Craig, and Buell Wesley Frazier coming to mind as three such examples).<br>
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I think Paul Landis probably <i>did</i> see (and perhaps also pick up) a small bullet fragment in the limousine. That's the "layer of truth" that exists in his account. And the two newspaper articles from the 1980s cited above tend to confirm that "layer of truth". But the remainder of Landis' current 2023 story just simply cannot be believed, in my opinion.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513927">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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It's highly doubtful that the 1983 interview with Landis was "incorrectly reported", as Sandy Larsen speculated above. In fact, it's almost impossible to believe such a thing happened (unless you want to believe the very same <b>TWO</b> mistakes/assumptions about the "bullet fragment" and "gave to somebody" occurred in both 1983 and again in 1988), because in November 1988, five years after his '83 interview, a different reporter <i>quoted</i> Landis saying this:<br>
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<i><b>"I distinctly remember there was a bullet fragment on the seat which I picked up and handed to somebody."</i></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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BTW / FWIW....<br>
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Here's another 1983 newspaper (pictured below) featuring the same article about Paul Landis that I've already linked to previously, except that in this 11/22/83 paper from Greenfield, Ohio, the author of the article is also shown ("Tim Curran, Associated Press Writer").<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">VINCE PALAMARA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513979">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Vince, I really haven't the slightest idea what Landis' motive might be.<br>
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Mr. Landis certainly gives the appearance of being a very forthright and truthful person. And I certainly don't relish the notion of calling him an outright teller of deliberate falsehoods. But the fact remains: <i>He changed his story significantly over these last 40 years</i>. I don't think there can be any question about that fact after you take a look at the two newspaper clippings I have posted above.<br>
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Perhaps his advanced age has taken its toll on his memory and his ability to be able to recall things clearly and correctly. But when we've got TWO <i>different</i> interviews from the 1980s (when Mr. Landis was a much younger man) which are verifying BOTH of the key elements of his "bullet" story --- i.e., it was a bullet <b>"fragment"</b> he saw/handled and <b>"gave to somebody"</b> --- then it seems pretty clear what the truth really is when it comes to Mr. Landis' 11/22/63 involvement with any type of "bullets" or "fragments" in the limo.<br>
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Mr. Landis, IMO, needs to be confronted with <b>BOTH</b> of the above newspaper articles at the same time, which each say the very same thing concerning the matter of the "bullet fragment".<br>
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I'd be interested to know if Landis thinks he was misquoted in <b>both</b> of those articles, <i>five years apart</i>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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I suppose that Paul Landis could, if he wanted to, now start saying that he did indeed retrieve a bullet "fragment" from the limo and "gave it to somebody", but he <b>ALSO</b> saw and picked up a "whole bullet" on the back seat and took it into the hospital. And the reason he never told a single soul about the "whole bullet" <i>ON THE DAY OF THE ASSASSINATION</i> was because.....well.....uh.....um.....<b>[fill in your own choice of reasons here, because I can't think of a single good one myself]</b>.<br>
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But I think that even <i>that</i> opportunity may have passed Mr. Landis by, because I read a few days back that Landis has, indeed, claimed he was "misquoted" in one of the earlier newspaper articles.<br>
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So he now needs to have <b>BOTH</b> the '83 and the '88 articles shoved before his eyes <i>at the same time</i> while a live microphone awaits his response.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513992">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But in addition to the 1983 and 1988 interviews, there's also <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29618-paul-landis-credibility-may-have-taken-a-couple-hits-here-1983-and-new-2010-statements/?do=findComment&comment=513983">this book excerpt</a></b> supplied by Vince Palamara from the 2010 book that Landis was a part of (<b><i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Q7E0YK">"The Kennedy Detail"</a></i></b>), in which Landis seems to be confirming the part about finding only a <b>FRAGMENT</b>, with that fragment being located <i><b>"in the back where the top would be secured"</i></b>.<br>
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So there are <b>TWO</b> things there (in the 2010 book) that perfectly match what Landis was saying in 1983 -- <i>"fragment"</i> and the <i>"top"</i> of the back seat (vs. just the "back seat").<br>
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But now, in 2023, that "fragment" found on the TOP of the back seat has been changed by Mr. Landis into a WHOLE BULLET that he found on the TOP of the back seat.<br>
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So the <b>location</b> of the found bullet item has remained the same in Landis' accounts from 1983 to 2023, but the <b>size</b> of that item has grown quite a bit indeed.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MAX HOLLAND SAID (VIA AN E-MAIL DISCUSSION):</span></b><br>
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David,<br>
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By your count, how many versions/iterations are there of the Landis recollection?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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As of the time I'm writing this post on September 26, 2023, I think there are five versions of Paul Landis' "bullet" story, with versions 2 and 3 being virtually identical. I'll outline those versions and variations below:<br>
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<b>Version #1:</b> November 1963. In this earliest version, via two separate Secret Service reports (one of which is extremely long and detailed), Landis doesn't say a word about seeing or finding any type of "bullet" or "bullet fragment":<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/Sa-landi.htm">PAUL LANDIS' REPORTS (11/27/63 & 11/30/63)</a></b></span><br>
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<b>Version #2:</b> November 1983. In this version, which appeared in at least two Ohio newspapers, Landis tells Associated Press writer Tim Curran that <i><b>"there was a bullet fragment on the top of the back seat"</i></b> which Landis said he <i><b>"picked up and gave to somebody"</i></b>:<br>
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<b>Version #3:</b> November 1988. This version is nearly identical to Version 2, with the only difference being that Mr. Landis, in 1988, doesn't specifically say he found the fragment "on top" of the back seat. In his 1988 interview, he merely says he found a fragment <i>"on the seat"</i>.<br>
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But another key difference in this 1988 article is the fact that the reporter/writer has placed quotation marks around the key words being spoken by Mr. Landis, indicating that these words (shown below) are not just a mere paraphrasing on the part of the author of the article, but instead represent a direct and verbatim quote coming from the mouth of Paul E. Landis Jr.:<br>
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<i><b>"I distinctly remember there was a bullet fragment on the seat which I picked up and handed to somebody."</i></b><br>
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<b>Version #4:</b> 2010 (in the book <i>"The Kennedy Detail"</i>). In this version, like the 1983 and 1988 newspaper accounts, Landis says he saw a bullet "fragment" in the back portion of JFK's limousine. But in this 2010 version, unlike the earlier articles from the 1980s, Mr. Landis doesn't say anything about giving the fragment to another person. Instead, he says he placed the fragment <i>"on the seat"</i>.<br>
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Here's the complete excerpt concerning Landis and the <i>"bullet fragment"</i> as it appears on Page 225 of the 2010 book <i>"The Kennedy Detail"</i> (with thanks going to Vincent Palamara for providing the screen capture linked below):<br>
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<i><b>"When Agent Paul Landis helped Mrs. Kennedy out of the car he saw a bullet fragment in the back where the top would be secured. He picked it up and put it on the seat, thinking that if the car were moved, it might be blown off."</i></b><br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2n9ghNYsh3MU_EzLDrjVfTEfXToXbU53LB8SwxUBp7cFhOVMR1L-CvfB34PpEZE4GgwKP0pYRVJZ3UF0sHpp1tLS8loBAXwwA222qPeO2ayRdUdxJ7x_E0ul4WEikzQk2Bzqffvpg5Slf8HFqxQ8QPiyKw2S2t4j3T4fXqi7NUyMQIcXUw4TyAFQvC9E/s2000/The-Kennedy-Detail-2010-Book-Page-225.jpg">PAGE 225 OF "THE KENNEDY DETAIL" (2010)</a></b></span><br>
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<b>Version #5:</b> Landis' current version, which first surfaced publicly in September 2023, which has Landis now saying he saw and picked up a <i>whole bullet</i> off of the top portion of the back seat of the Presidential limousine on 11/22/63, with Mr. Landis, unlike all previous statements he has ever made concerning the discovery of any type of "bullet" material, now claiming to have put that whole bullet in his pocket and then carrying it himself into Parkland Hospital where he then placed the whole bullet at the foot of the stretcher being occupied by John F. Kennedy in Trauma Room #1.<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciFP5Deh36w">INTERVIEW WITH PAUL LANDIS (SEPT. 12, 2023)</a></b></span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOE BAUER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29688-groubert-says-paul-landis-is-handled-by-jim-robenalt/?do=findComment&comment=515195">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Mr. Landis is now, in 2023, clearly not a person who believes in the <b><a href="http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com">Single-Bullet Theory</a></b>. And as such, I can't help but wonder why the blurb pictured below still occupies space on <b><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1641609443">Landis' book page</a></b> at Amazon.com?<br>
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Landis has stated in some of his interviews this month [September 2023] that he thinks Lee Oswald <b>WAS</b>, indeed, the sole assassin in Dallas. But, as all of us here at <i>The Education Forum</i> know, if the SBT goes down the tubes, then it's almost impossible (barring some kind of miracle) for there to have been only one shooter in Dealey Plaza.<br>
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Which means that Mr. Landis is simply not very well-informed when it comes to certain things relating to the assassination (e.g., the timing of the gunshots and analysis of the Zapruder Film).<br>
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Or....<br>
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Perhaps Mr. Landis has another "bombshell" waiting for us when his book is released on October 10th, 2023, and perhaps he's going to tell us how (in his opinion) Lee Harvey Oswald was able to assassinate JFK all by himself but WITHOUT the Single-Bullet Theory being a part of the equation.<br>
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Because without some sort of explanation to logically and reasonably explain to his readers how the Lone Assassin scenario is still valid (even without the SBT), then this blurb below doesn't make much sense at all....<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BENJAMIN COLE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29688-groubert-says-paul-landis-is-handled-by-jim-robenalt/?do=findComment&comment=515237">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I just noticed that James Robenalt has a <b><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Robenalt">Wikipedia page</a></b>, and on that Wiki page we find this (FWIW):<br>
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<span style="font-size:120%;"><i><b>"Robenalt helped former Secret Service agent Paul Landis "process his memories" of the JFK Assassination, enabling Landis to write his memoir The Final Witness (2023)."</span></i></b><br>
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The source used for the above quote is Peter Baker's recent [September 2023] <b><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230909195105/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/09/us/politics/jfk-assassination-witness-paul-landis.html"><i>New York Times</i> article</a></b>.<br>
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The term <i>"process his memories"</i> is quite interesting, isn't it?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DVP ALSO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/page/13/#comment-516368">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN LATER SAID:</span></b><br>
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After having just now [on October 13, 2023] read the key "bullet" portions of Paul Landis' newly-released book <b><i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1641609443">"The Final Witness"</a></i></b> (via the book excerpts that have been made available on <b><a href="https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t2787-the-landis-bullet#43084">this webpage</a></b>), some additional problems and questions arise, with one of these problems being a massively important one regarding the precise location of where Landis says he left the whole bullet that he says he found on the top of the back seat in the Presidential limo.<br>
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All of the available testimony from the Parkland Hospital personnel makes it clear that President Kennedy was never moved from his stretcher (gurney) during the entire time the President was being treated in Trauma Room No. 1. This fact is confirmed in the Warren Commission testimony of Parkland's Dr. Robert McClelland:<br>
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<span style="font-size:121%;"><b>ARLEN SPECTER --</b> Was he [President Kennedy] on the stretcher at all times?<br>
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<b>DR. ROBERT N. McCLELLAND --</b> Yes.<br>
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<b>MR. SPECTER --</b> In the trauma room No. 1 you described, is there any table onto which he could be placed from the stretcher?<br>
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<b>DR. McCLELLAND --</b> No; generally we do not move patients from the stretcher until they are ready to go into the operating room and then they are moved onto the operating table.<br>
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<b>MR. SPECTER --</b> Well, in fact, was he left on the stretcher all during the course of these procedures until he was pronounced dead?<br>
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<b>DR. McCLELLAND --</b> That's right.</span><br>
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Plus, there's <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgKLNuAreosdnnnmjf3mrmx4v_hBsMuiH__88eLtNkcpEOaJsKuVG7x-v4LJXq9Mi7L5hSBGobSM_GyvESL1lYljhC8FjmiimsAiyyVFIKcDyzLUl6zD7taO9bzfRi7c3cXnKXqLgmdIW9a_LMLwW9ibMJr-sUmdU9DZ-bIfFneqnb9XMhPbFhPVZRmlVc/s5000/Reclaiming%20History%20Book%20Excerpt%20--%20JFK%27s%20Stretcher%20&%20Bullet%20CE399.png">this information</a></b> concerning JFK's stretcher.<br>
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Former Secret Service agent Paul Landis, however, says something completely different in his book. He says this (quoting from the book itself):<br>
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<i><b>"As I entered—or, more to the point, was pushed into—the trauma room, the president’s lifeless body was already being lifted off the gurney and placed onto a white cotton blanket that covered the surface of a stainless-steel examination table in the middle of the room."</i></b> [End Quote.]<br>
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Landis then goes on to say this in his book:<br>
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<i><b>"I removed the bullet from my pocket, and reaching out over the examination table, I carefully placed it on the white cotton blanket next to the president’s left shoe."</i></b> [End Quote.]<br>
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But let's now compare the above book excerpt with the following statement made by the same Mr. Landis just one month ago:<br>
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<i>"I put the bullet on the gurney right by his [JFK's] feet."</i> <b>-- Paul Landis; September 12, 2023 (NBC Interview)</b><br>
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So the question of great importance now becomes: Did Landis drop the bullet onto JFK's <b>stretcher/"gurney"</b>? Or did he leave it on an <b>"examination table"</b>?<br>
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That's an exceedingly important question to answer, because if we're to believe he left it on an exam table instead of the stretcher (with a stretcher, of course, having wheels on it, which means it could easily be moved from one part of the hospital to another), we've then got to ask: <i>How, then, did that bullet (if it was really CE399, which Mr. Landis does seem to think it was) manage to get from the exam table to a stretcher in the corridor of Parkland Hospital, where it was then found by hospital employee Darrell C. Tomlinson a short time later?</i><br>
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Another possible problem with Landis' story crops up in the book excerpts linked above, although this "problem" isn't nearly as important or imperative as the "gurney vs. exam table" head-scratcher. This additional problem concerns the timing of Vice President Johnson's arrival at Parkland Hospital on 11/22/63. Landis says in his book that LBJ and the Vice President's Secret Service car had not yet arrived at Parkland Hospital by the time JFK's body was being lifted out of the back seat and onto a stretcher. Quoting again from Mr. Landis' book:<br>
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<i><b>"The vice president’s limo had yet to arrive, so there were no agents from his detail in sight. In fact, there were no other agents in sight anywhere to the rear, to my right, or to the front. Where are they? Where the hell is SA Greer? He was driving the president’s limo. He should be here. The follow-up car was empty too. Where the hell is Special Agent Sam Kinney? He was driving it. Jeez, oh man! Where the hell is everyone? Where did all the agents go? Who is going to secure the car AND THE CRIME SCENE? Everyone seemed to be crowded around the president’s body. No one was paying attention to anything else. My immediate concern was the bullet. It would be visible to anyone happening to walk by. What about photographers? Or worse yet, What about a souvenir hunter? Thoughts continued to race through my mind."</i></b> [End Quote.]<br>
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But with regard to Vice President Lyndon Johnson and his exact whereabouts at the time when President Kennedy was being wheeled into the hospital, there is evidence (via the observations of ambulance driver Aubrey Rike) which would indicate that Johnson actually entered Parkland Hospital <i>prior</i> to the time when <i>either</i> JFK or wounded Governor John Connally entered the emergency room entrance.<br>
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Listen to the chronology of events provided by Aubrey Rike, in two separate interviews he did on November 22, 1963, <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MDmhNVZypu9k16TyS9M5fF0jBNr8l0R/view">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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If Rike's chronology of the timing for when each man entered the hospital is correct --- i.e., Johnson, then Connally, then Kennedy --- that would, in my opinion, place a serious cloud of doubt over Mr. Landis' account (and his mindset) concerning those same events.<br>
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Because if LBJ's car and his Secret Service follow-up car were actually there at the hospital <i>prior</i> to Landis and JFK and Mrs. Kennedy exiting the limo and going into the emergency room, it would also mean that Mr. Landis would very likely have had no reason to say this to himself --- <i><b>"Where did all the agents go? Who is going to secure the car AND THE CRIME SCENE?"</i></b> --- because there would have still been plenty of SS agents there at Parkland to look after the limousine/"crime scene".<br>
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So with each passing glance at Paul Landis' new 2023 story regarding the events of November 22nd, more and more questions (and doubts) seem to surface.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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And here's yet another interesting twist to the Paul Landis bullet story:<br>
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In <b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZnnAYngUpA">this video</a></b> (which was uploaded to YouTube on September 11, 2023), Clint Hill says that Landis told him in 2014 that he (Landis) put the whole bullet on a stretcher <i><b>"in the hallway"</i></b> of Parkland Hospital, vs. putting it on Kennedy's gurney (or exam table), which is what Landis is now saying in 2023.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">STU WEXLER SAID (VIA AN E-MAIL DISCUSSION):</span></b><br>
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I have been skeptical of the utility and soundness of the Landis report. But on another forum, someone posted the following (see the paragraph beginning with <i>"Shanklin subsequently advised..."</i>):<br>
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<b><a href="https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62266#relPageId=143">https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62266#relPageId=143</a></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID (VIA E-MAIL):</span></b><br>
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Thanks, Stu. That is interesting. Unfortunately, Landis claims he didn't tell anyone about his find, and the FBI would probably be the last to know if he did.<br>
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The early Shanklin and Belmont memos contain a lot of second-hand stuff that are essentially bad gossip. This appears to be one of them. It should be noted, in that light, that Shanklin's claim Sorrels had possession of the rifle also appears to be nonsense.<br>
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The official story, of course, has it in the DPD's possession until they transferred it to Vince Drain of the FBI. Shankin's confusion about this probably comes from the fact that Sorrels walked with Day when Day left the building with the rifle. Apparently, someone thought Sorrels was taking possession of it, when he did not.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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In addition to the relevant and on-target points brought up by Pat Speer in his post above, let me add this....<br>
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The <b><a href="https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62266#relPageId=143">FBI report in question</a></b> is dated "November 22, 1963" (at the top). If it had been dated November 23 or November 24, it would be a lot easier to make the claim that the report was talking about the two large bullet fragments that were recovered by the Secret Service from the front seat of the Presidential limo late on the night of Nov. 22 (with those fragments then being turned over to Robert Frazier of the FBI at 11:50 PM EST on Nov. 22; see Frazier's testimony at <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh5/html/WC_Vol5_0039a.htm">5 H 67</a></b> for confirmation of the "11:50 PM" timestamp).<br>
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But since the FBI report which has the following information in it was dated Nov. 22nd, it's somewhat difficult to believe (but not <i>totally</i> impossible to accept) that these words below could be referring to the front-seat fragments, which are bullet fragments that weren't even found until close to midnight on the night of the 22nd....<br>
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<i><b><span style="font-size:127%;">"Shanklin subsequently advised information had been received that a Secret Service Agent had searched the car in which the President was riding and had found the bullet which allegedly killed the President."</i></b></span><br>
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And so....the mystery deepens.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29610-paul-landis-revelation-about-assassination-bullet/?do=findComment&comment=513147">September—October 2023</a><br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29948-re-paul-landis-112263-fbi-memo-confirms/?do=findComment&comment=522079">December 5, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size:151%;">[More discussion concerning Paul Landis <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/09/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1368.html#Paul-Landis">HERE</a>.]</b></span><br>
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David Von Peinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12501570830179992520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3619397935289739021.post-5818639645595613812023-06-01T02:00:00.023-07:002023-07-04T05:43:51.986-07:00 JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS (PART 1365) <br><base target="_blank">
<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Part 1365 of my <b>"JFK Assassination Arguments"</b> series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of <b>June 1—30, 2023</b>. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29173-need-honest-explanation-for-stare-of-death-autopsy-photo/?do=findComment&comment=502539">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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So, the thing you say is an <i>"obvious entry wound"</i> in the <b><i><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGgcxGVxy2wKQEuAC0c3MwOsviL6whWnxDvi65BBQgJupt6jMK7Zb4vOlYc1cYgCNlty7yzTopsjIgnv0X4BHDqInHgNQTE7n7yqkwhgTRUsBef6hwGiJh7i0s4iRzrrx74thOoSrelrEMqYwS1ejs7WK5Xu4yQEJGTAAiCFVycPjAl4Qh3vkcYfwu/s3000/JFK-Autopsy-Photo.jpg">Stare Of Death</i> autopsy photograph</a></b> was somehow completely missed (or ignored?) by all of the autopsy physicians?<br>
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How can anyone truly believe such a thing?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29173-need-honest-explanation-for-stare-of-death-autopsy-photo/?do=findComment&comment=502574">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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And your <i>proof</i> that the autopsy was "falsified" is......?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29173-need-honest-explanation-for-stare-of-death-autopsy-photo/?do=findComment&comment=502578">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I asked for your <b>proof</b> that the autopsy was "falsified". You provided nothing but your opinion.<br>
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Wanna try again?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29173-need-honest-explanation-for-stare-of-death-autopsy-photo/?do=findComment&comment=502598">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But the autopsy findings are completely <i><b>CONSISTENT</i></b> with the <b>BEST AUTOPSY EVIDENCE</b> there is---the autopsy photographs and X-rays.<br>
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And, I see that the ultra-silly "wrong brain" myth refuses to die too. ~sigh~<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVE CHRISMAN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29173-need-honest-explanation-for-stare-of-death-autopsy-photo/?do=findComment&comment=502665">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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[Quoting Dr. Robert McClelland....]<br>
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<span style="font-size:118%;"><i>"Some people have even said 'Oh, that tracheostomy has been altered; it's too big a wound'. Well, I can speak for that -- no, it had not been altered. That's exactly the way it was made at Parkland. It's just that people expected it to be smaller."</i> <b>-- Dr. Robert N. McClelland; Via <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0KFei3W7bGOODhkYTRkOFdNUlU/view">this 2009 interview (at 41:25)</a></b></span><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29173-need-honest-explanation-for-stare-of-death-autopsy-photo/?do=findComment&comment=502563">June 1-2, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502548">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARK ULRIK SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502551">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Along these same "grammar" lines....<br>
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In his latest <b><a href="https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth">two-part essay on Pacino & Travolta</a></b>, I see that Jim DiEugenio still hasn't managed to correct his persistent habit of misspelling the word <span style="font-size:119%;"><b>it's</b></span> as <span style="font-size:119%;"><b>its</b></span> (sans the apostrophe). (See <b><a href="https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth-part-2">Part 2</a></b> of the article for multiple examples.)<br>
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I've noticed in recent months that multiple other <i>Education Forum</i> members (besides just Jim D.) also have that same habit of refusing to spell that particular word correctly. Which seems very curious to me. Is Jim's longtime grammar affliction contagious? 😁 <br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JOHN COTTER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502560">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Oh, I assure you, I didn't read any of the two-part article. (~Shuddering at the thought.~)<br>
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I merely searched both parts and used the handy "Word Find" tool to search for "its" and "it's". That's all.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MARK ULRIK SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502567">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The <b><a href="https://prowritingaid.com/grammar/1008088/Should-I-use-a-comma-before-and-after-vocative">"Vocative comma"</a></b> and the dreaded <b>"Comma immediately following a sentence-opening prepositional phrase"</b> are things that I have been advocating and fully supporting for years now. 😇 <br>
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In fact, when I was proofreading the text of <b><a href="http://beyond-reasonable-doubt-book.blogspot.com">the book</a></b> I helped Mel Ayton write a few years back, I had the darndest time convincing Mel that many additional commas were needed in our manuscript before it went to press. I succeeded in getting most of them added.<br>
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For some odd reason, it seems that there is a paucity of commas being utilized in books written by many British authors (like Mr. Ayton). I've yet to figure out why this is so. ~shrug~<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502571">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Many people (numbering in the <i>millions</i>) disagree very strongly with your above assessment [that Jim DiEugenio is the <i>"ultimate JFK Truth warrior"</i>].<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">RON BULMAN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502603">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yes, Ron, you're probably correct on this point (re: the "millions").<br>
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Let me revise my previous quote (so that it's technically more accurate):<br>
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<span style="font-size:121%;"><i>"Many people (including virtually <b>everybody</b> who was an integral part of the Warren Commission and the HSCA and the Clark Panel and the Rockefeller Commission) disagree very strongly with your above assessment [that Jim DiEugenio is the "ultimate JFK Truth warrior"]."</i></span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502576">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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And, along those same lines....<br>
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<i><b>Anybody will believe anything they see on the movie theater screen---if it's an Oliver Stone production.</i></b><br>
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Sad, isn't it?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502581">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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A quick reminder and Reality Check (re: some of the ridiculous things that are endorsed as the truth in the JFK case by James DiEugenio, who is a person that W. Niederhut just referred to as one of the <i>"most knowledgeable people on the planet"</i>):<br>
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<a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-81.html#The-Stupid-Things-James-DiEugenio-Believes"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IjBnUb4jDXo/XTiSycEruTI/AAAAAAABSQo/MaHbhgb9efsUyvLqTUtfzx9N3tkk-CHsgCLcBGAs/s235/Click-Here-Logo-3.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502618">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I certainly agree with you on <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502618">this one</a></b>, Jim. It most definitely <i>is</i> baloney.<br>
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That's almost as bad as <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2023/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1364.html#Sky-Throne-Thinks-Tippit-Was-Shot-In-Dealey-Plaza">this theory</a></b> (discussed at another forum), in which an outer-fringe conspiracy nutjob informed me that J.D. Tippit was <i>really</i> killed in Dealey Plaza, instead of on 10th Street, and that the "staged shooting" on Tenth Street came complete with "conspiracy-supplied witnesses".<br>
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As the years pass, the number of conspiracy-happy clowns with really oddball theories seems to grow and grow.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29174-al-pacino-and-john-travolta-meet-the-giancana-myth/?do=findComment&comment=502559">June 1, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22123-dr-david-mantiks-new-book/?do=findComment&comment=502412">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">PAT SPEER SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22123-dr-david-mantiks-new-book/?do=findComment&comment=502416">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22123-dr-david-mantiks-new-book/?do=findComment&comment=502437">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GEORGE GOVUS SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22123-dr-david-mantiks-new-book/?do=findComment&comment=502658">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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But Mr. Simkin was simply wrong. As Pat Speer has already correctly pointed out in this discussion, the "printing error" concerning frames Z314 and Z315 of the Zapruder Film had nothing to do with <b><a href="http://kennedy-photos.blogspot.com/2014/12/kennedy-gallery-407.html">LIFE Magazine's 11/29/63 issue</a></b>. Instead, it had to do with a printing error in Warren Commission Exhibit No. 885.<br>
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Those two Z-Film frames (Z314-315) are printed in reverse order in CE885 (at <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh18/html/WH_Vol18_0042b.htm">18 H 70-71</a></b>).<br>
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Here's the portion of Vincent Bugliosi's JFK book, <i>Reclaiming History</i>, dealing with the subject of the "reversed Z-Film frames" (click to enlarge)....<br>
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Also see:<br>
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<b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/21830-martin-hays-review-of-david-von-peins-book/page/9/?tab=comments#comment-328178">This April 6, 2016, <i>Education Forum</i> post</a></b> written by David Lifton pertaining to the "printing error" referred to by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22123-dr-david-mantiks-new-book/?do=findComment&comment=502662">June 2, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29175-why-are-people-here-debating-about-debunked-material/?do=findComment&comment=502667">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The most "absurd" assertion made by conspiracy theorists at this forum (or any other) is the assertion that Vincent T. Bugliosi's <b><a href="http://reclaiminghistory.blogspot.com">"Reclaiming History"</a></b> has (in any major way at all) been "debunked".<br>
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Such a notion concerning Bugliosi's mammoth 20-year effort is not only utterly laughable, but also <i>provably wrong</i> (based on the sum total of evidence in the JFK case).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BENJAMIN COLE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29175-why-are-people-here-debating-about-debunked-material/?do=findComment&comment=502737">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The Dictabelt junk has been debunked, yes. No doubt about it, IMO. At the very <i>least</i>, the HSCA/4th Shot/Dictabelt evidence has a very dark cloud hanging over it (based on Steve Barber's "Hold everything secure" discovery alone). And even most CTers should be able to acknowledge the existence of that "dark cloud". (See <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/06/jfk-acoustics-charles-rader-interview.html">this webpage</a></b>.)<br>
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Re: The smell of "Gunsmoke"....<br>
<b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1111.html">The Smell Of Gunpowder In Dealey Plaza</a></i></b><br>
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Re: Bang....Bang-Bang....<br>
<b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-710.html">The Spacing Of The Gunshots</a></i></b><br>
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Re: The SBT and Governor Connally's reactions....<br>
<b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html">The Ultimate In SBT Denial Among Conspiracy Theorists</a></i></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29175-why-are-people-here-debating-about-debunked-material/?do=findComment&comment=502746">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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If you want to believe that DiEugenio has "demolished" Vince Bugliosi's book, fine. But you're only fooling yourself. Because — <b>newsflash!</b> — the evidence in the John F. Kennedy murder case (laid out painstakingly by Bugliosi in his book) clearly establishes Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt---and very likely his <i>lone</i> guilt.<br>
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<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pYlqvSGaGHObpVVugSM9rwh_Zjr61HFb/view"><img src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzEmK06LYfxWDcA5MX2OIW1LRMJlsPezFKrgPELoLApgc5GadkPBmWluk2CZw_hKL4TeN201o29wpFcnDjwzz0aaDdU3zF0pU8NdAPgv8UZ8fZhI7r9p79cdBdE9Tvp3rSAjZvN2-7-uW_sln94Z3WxH-GJr5PWNy7mcTRQLgqdiE-wR6JUrMY9F8e/s530/Reclaiming-History-Excerpt-Summary-Of-Oswalds-Guilt-PDF-Logo.png"></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29175-why-are-people-here-debating-about-debunked-material/?do=findComment&comment=502753">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Good Lord, what a load of garbage.<br>
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Only a person hell-bent on promoting a conspiracy in the JFK case (such as Jim DiEugenio) could possibly just brush aside the massive amounts of <i>actual evidence</i> presented by Vincent Bugliosi in <i>"Reclaiming History"</i> and categorize that huge pile of evidence as merely <i><b>"a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, symbolizing nothing"</i></b>.<br>
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Mr. DiEugenio, you're living in a fantasy world.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">W. NIEDERHUT SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29175-why-are-people-here-debating-about-debunked-material/?do=findComment&comment=502800">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The problem is --- the many things you and DiEugenio insist have been "debunked" really haven't been "debunked" at all. You guys just <b>THINK</b> they've been debunked. Big difference.<br>
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Take, for example, DiEugenio's constant refrain about the <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Wrong%20Rifle">"wrong rifle"</a></b>. That's been fully explained (and reasonably so) in "LNer" (non-conspiratorial) terms, and Jim D. knows this full well. But he never stops with the "wrong rifle" crap. As if it has never once been reasonably explained before. And Bugliosi, of course, addresses the issue in his book (excerpted below). He doesn't ignore it or sweep it under the carpet (click to enlarge):<br>
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<a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wsyvMJl3yLQ/XUuBow01ySI/AAAAAAABSTg/KUydB8Ip3R0kB_ga1jeiwfK3rezHz5jdwCLcBGAs/s1600/Reclaiming-History-Excerpt-Pages-392-And-393-Of-Endnotes-Regarding-Rifle.png"><img src="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wsyvMJl3yLQ/XUuBow01ySI/AAAAAAABSTg/KUydB8Ip3R0kB_ga1jeiwfK3rezHz5jdwCLcBGAs/s530/Reclaiming-History-Excerpt-Pages-392-And-393-Of-Endnotes-Regarding-Rifle.png"></a><br>
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BTW....<br>
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Vince Bugliosi knew full well that the rifle wasn't found "in the sniper's nest", even though he says it was in the above book excerpt. That was merely an innocent mistake (even though some CTers might believe otherwise).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29175-why-are-people-here-debating-about-debunked-material/?do=findComment&comment=502805">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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From <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-101.html">this</a></b> July 2015 forum discussion....<br>
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<span style="font-size:119%;"><b>DVP SAID:</b><br>
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<i>In order for Vince [Bugliosi] to completely live up to his claim that he would present the case as the critics of the Warren Commission would present it, Vince would have had to touch base with every single CTer who has ever posted on the Internet (or who has ever written one of the hundreds of books on the case), because almost every CTer has at least a <i>slightly</i> different theory or approach to the evidence in the case.<br />
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A statement like Vince made -- <b><i>"I intend to set forth all of their main arguments, and the way they, not I, want them to be set forth, before I seek to demonstrate their invalidity"</i></b> [see the complete quote <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi_2nfm7nWnaech8R1p-RW_kXOKxTX0u0kfn9XrOhMD7DI-SheYiphYTBSFTSHNJm_zdvAJJGLgjwf9OYtGKtDPTRRVZ-iIO1USlwMhqp7SI4fXJMesqACiAlAkNk7krWHQhnp4yQe4BT1mrDmL-aBo42n_fwSS4g55XvvGaU_vK20cQNRMs9o5SyJ1=s2000">here</a></b>] -- is a <i>No Win</i> situation for Vince, because there is <i>always</i> going to be some conspiracy theorist out there who will be able to say (after reading Bugliosi's book) -- <i>"See, I told you so. Bugliosi's nothing but a liar! He didn't present THIS part of the case in the exact way <b>I</b> think it should have been presented, and therefore I get to call Vince a cheat and a liar."</i><br />
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It's impossible to please a JFK CTer. And by setting the bar so high with those words Vince used (<i>"the way they, not I, want them to be set forth"</i>), it became a hurdle that would have been just about impossible for Vince to overcome even if he had written 10,000 pages instead of just 2,800. But I, myself, think Vince did just fine in debunking virtually all of the major conspiracy theories connected with the JFK murder case. Many CTers, quite naturally, will vehemently disagree with me. Well, so be it.<b> *</i></b><br />
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<b>[* 2022 DVP EDIT --</b> But please also note the precise words that Bugliosi used in his book -- <b><i>"I intend to set forth all of their main arguments..."</i></b><br>
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A key word there is the word <b>"main"</b>.<br>
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Let me also add this important quote from Vince Bugliosi's book (regarding "wheat" and "chaff"):<br>
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<i>"One of my very biggest tasks for you, the reader, was to separate the wheat from the chaff out of the virtually endless allegations, controversies, and issues surrounding the case. I believe I have done this, and it is this wheat, as it were, that constitutes this very long book."</i> <b>-- Vincent Bugliosi; Page xlv of "Reclaiming History"]</b></span><br>
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More about Vince Bugliosi's "pledge" <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/08/dvp-vs-dieugenio-part-49.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CHARLES BLACKMON SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29175-why-are-people-here-debating-about-debunked-material/?do=findComment&comment=502831">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The Neutron Activation Analysis (NAA) stuff is, indeed, "wheat" (IMO), but with an important asterisk and footnote after it.<br>
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Yes, Vince Bugliosi in his book did, indeed, put a lot of faith in the NAA analysis of <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-bEyazi8WAuemhxYjlISnRNSVU/view">Dr. Vincent Guinn</a></b>. (And I, too, would like to know how the conspiracy theorists can possibly combat the <i>"What Are The Odds?"</i> logic and common <br>sense that reside in my 2007 article concerning Dr. Guinn's NAA conclusions, presented <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/vincent-guinn-and-naa.html">here</a></b>.)<br>
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But I sure hope nobody has formed the incorrect opinion that Mr. Bugliosi just totally <b>ignored</b> the various NAA studies that have been published since 2002, which cast doubt on the exactitude of Dr. Guinn's determinations. Because Bugliosi certainly did not ignore those scientific studies at all. In fact, he talks about those newer NAA studies at some length in his book, a discussion which encompasses four entire pages of endnotes in "Reclaiming History". You can read all four of those pages <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/12pL8iJ21SIvfAAFHEb8KgunP8BdNWXEL/view">here</a></b>.<br>
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So, yes, Bugliosi did promote Dr. Guinn's NAA conclusions. But he also presented the opposing NAA viewpoint in his book as well.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29175-why-are-people-here-debating-about-debunked-material/?do=findComment&comment=502734">June 2-4, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID [VIA AN E-MAIL MESSAGE]:</span></b><br>
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A 117-page study I have completed on the jackets of Oswald and analysis of the witnesses to Oswald’s clothing through the day of the assassination:<br>
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<span style="font-size:131%;"><b><i><a href="https://www.scrollery.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/T-Jackets-112.pdf">“Lee Harvey Oswald’s two jackets and why the Tippit killer’s jacket was not one of them”</a></i></b></span><br>
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The most important findings are that CE 162 was the Tippit killer’s abandoned jacket but was not Oswald’s gray jacket; and, in an inversion of the Warren Report’s reconstruction, Oswald first wore his gray jacket the morning of Fri Nov 22, then changed into his blue jacket (CE 163) at 1 p.m. at the rooming house and left with that. (The Warren Report argued the opposite sequence.)<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Greg's jacket theory, like most conspiracy theories, is just about the opposite of the truth and the known facts. Oswald's BLUE jacket was, of course, found in the TSBD's Domino Room in December 1963. And Earlene Roberts, in the Day 1 (11/22/63) KLIF Radio interview linked below, said that Oswald left the roominghouse on November 22nd wearing a <b>"short gray coat"</b>, not a blue jacket.<br>
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Also see the following excerpt from Vincent Bugliosi's book concerning the two jackets that Lee Oswald owned (click to enlarge):<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG DOUDNA SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29177-lee-harvey-oswalds-two-jackets-and-why-the-tippit-killers-jacket-was-not-one-of-them/?do=findComment&comment=502939">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Thank you, Greg, for your last detailed post concerning your beliefs pertaining to Oswald's jackets. I can see that you've put a lot of time into creating that large 117-page report/essay on the jackets.<br>
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You're 100% wrong regarding the <b>Jacket Charade</b> (in my opinion), but your diligent effort to try and clear up any confusion concerning the jackets is certainly duly noted by yours truly.<br>
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Earlene Roberts, by the way, doesn't always refer to Oswald's outer garment as a "coat" (although, yes, she certainly did on Nov. 22 during her KLIF interview). But during her <b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/robertse.htm">Warren Commission testimony</a></b>, she referred to LHO's garment as a "jacket" as well.<br>
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And in case you're keeping a <i>Jacket Scorecard</i>, the official tally I came up with after looking through Mrs. Roberts' whole WC session is:<br>
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<b>"Jacket"</b> --- 5 references.<br>
<b>"Coat"</b> --- 2 references.<br>
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In any event, regardless of which word Mrs. Roberts chose to use to describe the outer garment that Lee Harvey Oswald was wearing when he dashed out of his room in a hurry on November 22, 1963, the whole Jacket Charade that you, Greg Doudna, outline in such great detail in your lengthy article is something that is extremely unlikely to have occurred.<br>
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And the main reason the police wouldn't have wanted to play Musical Jackets with Oswald's garments is because they just simply <b>didn't need to</b> --- and that's because Lee Oswald still had the Tippit murder weapon <i>on him</i> when he was arrested in the Texas Theater. (Not to mention the multiple eyewitnesses who positively identified Oswald at or near the scene of Tippit's murder with a gun in his hands.)<br>
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So, given the fact the DPD knew they had the real killer of Officer Tippit in custody (namely: Lee Oswald), why the need to play Musical Jackets?<br>
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But, of course, since Greg Doudna doesn't think Lee Oswald killed J.D. Tippit at all (see <b><a href="https://www.scrollery.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/T-Jackets-112.pdf">Pages 44 and 117</a></b>), that leaves open a wide variety of unsupportable theories that Greg can pluck from the sky in order to justify why the cops did this and did that.<br>
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That's what's so nice about being a conspiracy believer---there's almost <i>nothing</i> that can't be theorized. Even a needless Jacket Charade....and, of course, the switcheroo of the Tippit bullet shells (which is a <i>must</i>---if we're to believe Oswald didn't shoot J.D. Tippit).<br>
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I wonder if there is <b>ANY</b> evidence in the JFK & Tippit cases that an Internet conspiracy theorist thinks <i>wasn't</i> tampered with and/or manipulated by the authorities?<br>
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Greg Doudna has now added Oswald's two jackets to the list of "Fraudulent Evidence". (And as far as I can recall, that's the first time those two items have been labeled as "Fake" or "Tampered With" by any conspiracist.)<br>
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What's next? Oswald's wedding ring in the teacup?<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29177-lee-harvey-oswalds-two-jackets-and-why-the-tippit-killers-jacket-was-not-one-of-them/?do=findComment&comment=502937">June 5, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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On June 5, 2023, I added the following addendum to <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/oswald-ordered-rifle.html">this article</a></b> concerning Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle purchase:<br>
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We must also keep in mind this important fact....<br>
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The Klein's coupon that Lee Oswald used to order his rifle came from the <b>February</b> 1963 issue of <i>American Rifleman</i> magazine. But he didn't mail that order coupon until the middle of <b>March</b>. So by the time Oswald's rifle was shipped by Klein's (March 20), the <b>April</b> issue of <i>American Rifleman</i> (and other similar monthly magazines that had the Klein's ads in them) would have very likely already been on newsstands and in stores around the country.<br>
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And what was the length of the Italian Carbine that was being advertised by Klein's Sporting Goods in the April 1963 issue of <i>American Rifleman</i> magazine? Answer: 40 inches (per <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/12/oswald-ordered-rifle.html#Gary-Mack-2010-Email-Regarding-Rifle">this e-mail</a></b> that I received from Gary Mack in 2010).<br>
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Therefore, nobody should be at all surprised (not even a conspiracy theorist) that Lee Oswald was shipped a 40-inch Carcano rifle in <b>late March of '63</b>, since we know from the Klein's ads that the 40-inch version of the gun <b>is</b> the exact model (in addition to being the exact same <b>price</b> and <b>catalog number</b>) that Klein's customers would have been ordering and receiving through the mail (via the April issue of <i>American Rifleman</i>) at that exact same point in time—<b><i>late March of 1963</i></b>.<br>
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And since we know that Klein's definitely <i>did</i> switch from a 36-inch weapon to a 40-inch model in their advertisements in the early months of 1963, it stands to reason that a customer who technically ordered the 36-inch gun might receive the 40-inch model instead. And, in my opinion, that's just exactly what happened with Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle order. Plus, the fact that Oswald ordered his gun in the middle of <b>March</b> while using a <b>February</b> coupon made it even more likely that Klein's would have had to send him the 40-inch gun instead.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/21917-did-lee-harvey-oswald-order-the-rifle-the-answer-is-yes/?do=findComment&comment=502934">June 5, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG PARKER SAID:</span></b><br>
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I am sensibly neither CT or LN and a have a whole subforum dedicated to debunking bad theories, no matter where they fall on your LN/CT chart.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I'll wait for the laughter to die down a bit before continuing.............<br>
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If Greg Parker was <b>really</b> <i>"dedicated to debunking bad theories"</i>, then he should start with some of his own really bad ones, such as <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/07/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-975.html">the one discussed here</a></b>, in which Parker tries to make people believe that Lee Harvey Oswald never rented a room at 1026 North Beckley Avenue in Oak Cliff in October of 1963. (It'd be hard to beat that one on the "really bad" scale.)<br>
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And as for Greg Parker declaring that he's <i>"neither CT or LN"</i>, let's take a quick look at a few of the comments he's made at various forums in past years and see if that fence-sitting position he says he occupies is backed up by his own statements....<br>
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<span style="font-size:118%;"><i><b>"Those behind the hit didn't care what Oswald did. .... The idea seems to have been to toss someone to the DPD and let them do what they do best -- make (up) a case against their suspect."</i></b> <b>-- G. Parker;</b> <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/03/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1314.html">March 2019</a></b></span><br>
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That sure doesn't sound like a middle-of-the-road, fence-sitting statement to me.<br>
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Let's try a couple more....<br>
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<span style="font-size:118%;"><i><b>"On balance, I don't believe Oswald carried a gun into the TT [Texas Theater]."</i></b> .... and .... <i><b>"That Baker/Truly/Oswald thing is pure, unadulterated bunk."</i></b> <b>-- G. Parker; <a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-178.html">March 2008</a></b></span><br>
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But remember everybody....Greg R. Parker is <b><i>"neither CT or LN"</i></b>.<br>
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Yeah, right. And Donald Trump is a virtuous saint.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GREG PARKER SAID:</span></b><br>
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He [DVP] labelled this quote as "common sense"....<br>
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<b><i>"What a sickening irony it is that this man who came through so much should die at the hands of a man worth so little."</b></i> <b>-- Alex Dreier; ABC News; November 22, 1963</b><br>
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Alex Dreier should hang his head in shame. So should [DVP].<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Why? It's an <b>excellent / <span style="font-size:121%;">very excellent</span> / <span style="font-size:137%;">super excellent</span></b> quote. And oh so accurate.<br>
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You can argue that perhaps Mr. Dreier, on Day 1 (Nov. 22), shouldn't have been so blunt and definitive regarding the guilt of Oswald (aka: "a man worth so little"). But, then too, that particular quote is still an excellent (and entirely <b>ACCURATE</b>) quote even if somebody else besides Oswald had killed President Kennedy. It's only an <i>inaccurate</i> quote if the assassin had been a female. Because <b>any man</b> (be it Lee Oswald or Joe Schmoe or John Doe from Omaha) who kills an American President can aptly be described as a <i>"man worth so little"</i>.<br>
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And if Greg Parker is offended in some way by the fact that I've propped up <br><b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B294SBAT_oH6bm1ldEduUkpqb2M/view">Mr. Dreier's quote</a></b> on my <b><a href="http://Quoting-Common-Sense.blogspot.com">"Quoting Common Sense"</a></b> website, that's just too damn bad. What could possibly matter less than the opinion of an outer-fringe conspiracy nutjob, who, in recent days and weeks, has established himself to be one of the most unpleasant and obnoxious individuals on the planet?<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/haYO1W-2jsE/m/Mi5lcLYMAgAJ">June 5-6, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/4qwzBqKqPjU/m/gC3qJ2RMAgAJ">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GIL JESUS SAID:</span></b><br>
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His [Marvin Johnson's] <b><a href="https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/html/WC_Vol7_0056a.htm">"fairly small package"</a></b> isn't the 38-inch gunsack. It's the lunch sack from the chicken. He keeps referring to this as the "sack".<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You're nuts. You think the <b>LUNCH</b> sack was <b><a href="https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/html/WC_Vol7_0056a.htm">"folded and refolded"</a></b>? That was Johnson's description. He was obviously describing the <b>GUN SACK</b>, not any small lunch sack.<br>
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Plus:<br>
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<b>DAVID BELIN --</b> Where would the sack have been found with reference to those vertical pipes? These vertical pipes, I believe, on the south side of the sixth floor near the east corner?<br>
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<b>OFFICER MARVIN JOHNSON --</b> That sack would be over near the corner of the building here [pointing].<br>
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<b>MR. BELIN --</b> Would all the sack be east of the pipes, or would part of the sack be sticking out west of the pipes?<br>
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<b>MR. JOHNSON --</b> The way it was folded, it would all have to be over here.<br>
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<b>MR. BELIN --</b> Your testimony then is that all the sack would have been east of the pipes. Is that correct?<br>
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<b>MR. JOHNSON --</b> I would say that the sack was folded up here and it was east of the pipes in the corner.<br>
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Again, Johnson is describing a sack/package that has been <b>"FOLDED UP"</b>. That's not Bonnie Ray's lunch bag. No way.<br>
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In addition, it couldn't be more obvious that Johnson is talking about <b>TWO</b> different "sacks" during his Warren Commission session (at <b><a href="https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/html/WC_Vol7_0055b.htm">7 H 102-103</a></b>), because he says the lunch sack was found much further <i>west</i> than the larger gun sack, which he said was in the far <i>southeast corner</i>, near the pipes.<br>
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Plus, just look at the question that was posed by the WC's David Belin <i>before</i> Marvin Johnson ever said anything at all about the larger "folded" package. Belin prefaces his question by listing the various things that Johnson has <i>already</i> testified about---including the <i><b>"lunch sack and the pop bottle by that second pair of windows"</i></b>....<br>
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<b>MR. BELIN --</b> Did you find anything else up in the southeast corner of the sixth floor? We have talked about the rifle, we have talked about the shells, we have talked about the chicken bones and the lunch sack and the pop bottle by that second pair of windows. Anything else?<br>
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<b>MR. JOHNSON --</b> Yes, sir. We found this brown paper sack or case. It was made out of heavy wrapping paper. Actually, it looked similar to the paper that those books was wrapped in. It was just a long narrow paper bag.<br>
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<b>MR. BELIN --</b> Where was this found?<br>
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<b>MR. JOHNSON --</b> Right in the corner of the building. .... Sixth floor. .... Southeast corner.<br>
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<b><i><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/johnso_m.htm">http://jfk-assassination.net/Testimony Of Marvin Johnson</a></i></b><br>
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Still think Marvin Johnson was talking <i><b>ONLY</i></b> about Bonnie Ray's lunch sack, Gil?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GIL JESUS SAID:</span></b><br>
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No physical evidence exists that supports the finding of the "gunsack" on the sixth floor.<br>
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And you've resorted once again to deception. Those crime scene photos you posted links to <b>[<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/4qwzBqKqPjU/m/gC3qJ2RMAgAJ">HERE</a>]</b>, you've taken someone else's interpretation of the pictures and presented them as fact.<br>
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You don't know if that 38-inch bag is in those pictures anymore than I do. You provide no evidence that the bag is depicted in those pics and no evidence to corroborate it.<br>
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And yet you present it as fact.<br>
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The reason why people don't want to engage you in debate over this case is because you never tell the whole story.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You can <b>SEE</b> the long paper package on top of the boxes in <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhl8iPL7ojnxj8ptjV04o3d-VFb3XLscQZAiTUcnY2Q_JxWlfJiXDztY0WFEwos7WzLr7ZVYP7BB51f0u8bZ-ltYBmXmUQxEdRBERSIyYnFQVEn7fwP3_UBDAopDkfeLGdGJXT-XP18dwyouz8i9YWRgqQVAXLKiZH3lO6ectWjMc_FE6W-HxJMbuN_/s2000/TSBD-Sixth-Floor-Southeast-Corner-Highlighting-Paper-Bag.jpg">CE508</a></b>. And the various creases and folds pretty much match <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0269a.htm">CE142</a></b>.<br>
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But CTers will probably keep denying this gun sack ever existed (click for bigger views):<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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What probably happened was this:<br>
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The police picked up the gun sack before it ever got photographed (and yes, that was a mistake; it should have been photographed, but unfortunately it wasn't; but that doesn't mean it never existed).<br>
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Then, after picking up the gun sack (whether it be Montgomery or Studebaker who actually picked it up), it was put on top of the Sniper's Nest boxes, just a few feet from where it was picked up. It then inadvertently got photographed lying on top of the boxes in what became Commission Exhibit No. 508.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BUD SAID:</span></b><br>
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Blow-up of the corresponding photo in the Dallas History collection...<b><a href="https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth49641/m1/1/zoom/?resolution=0.5&lat=1915&lon=608.5">Click Here</a></b>.<br>
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I don't think that is the paper sack in CE508.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Oh, sure it is.<br>
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If it's not, it would be an incredible coincidence that <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgz-p32m6Mamx1fX3t-yW9owb0VtjAbWfTRAsenk-gKw25AMB_zGPhyDCH51NZiOLCbV4Hn9j15QmIpOkMp4Cbe0oonqxwPTjO5xCwZNo9JpD406bj7TOZ9CfzGm-F8KIjVdgMA26Dmc2PSrTLR8-PC2rgCnDbAZsvK6VIBsfVzD1Z24pVQep_mozbd/s850/CE508-Zoomed-Showing-Paper-Bag.jpg">this paper-like object</a></b> (with a lot of folds and creases in it, just like the Oswald/<b><a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/images/bag.jpg">CE142</a></b> bag) just happened to be photographed on the Sniper's Nest boxes on 11/22, a mere few feet from where CE142 was found.<br>
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What are the odds?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BUD SAID:</span></b><br>
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Sorry about that, I didn't follow the discussion closely, I didn't see where <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgz-p32m6Mamx1fX3t-yW9owb0VtjAbWfTRAsenk-gKw25AMB_zGPhyDCH51NZiOLCbV4Hn9j15QmIpOkMp4Cbe0oonqxwPTjO5xCwZNo9JpD406bj7TOZ9CfzGm-F8KIjVdgMA26Dmc2PSrTLR8-PC2rgCnDbAZsvK6VIBsfVzD1Z24pVQep_mozbd/s850/CE508-Zoomed-Showing-Paper-Bag.jpg">this</a></b> was produced earlier. I thought you were talking about the item to the left in the photo. Yes, that appears to be the bag.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GIL JESUS SAID:</span></b><br>
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<b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgz-p32m6Mamx1fX3t-yW9owb0VtjAbWfTRAsenk-gKw25AMB_zGPhyDCH51NZiOLCbV4Hn9j15QmIpOkMp4Cbe0oonqxwPTjO5xCwZNo9JpD406bj7TOZ9CfzGm-F8KIjVdgMA26Dmc2PSrTLR8-PC2rgCnDbAZsvK6VIBsfVzD1Z24pVQep_mozbd/s925/CE508-Zoomed-Showing-Paper-Bag.jpg">That paper</a></b> could be anything.<br>
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You [DVP] are presenting your opinion as fact without any proof that that's what it is.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BUD SAID:</span></b><br>
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Where would your stupid hobby be without that?<br>
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DVP presented an idea and supported it. You don't like the idea because it is in conflict with your silly ideas.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BUD ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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Conspiracy hobbyists are poor thinkers as a rule, but it is <b><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/4qwzBqKqPjU/m/ZORRHrOZAgAJ">thinking like this</a></b> that puts Gil head and shoulders above the rest. He ignores the prints that are on the bag but finds prints not on the bag to be significant.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GIL JESUS SAID:</span></b><br>
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There's no evidence that what you're seeing in CE508 is THE gunsack. That's YOUR OPINION.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I'm making the <i>reasonable</i> inference that the paper object I see sitting on top of those boxes in CE508 is, indeed, the very same paper bag that we see in Warren Commission Exhibit No. 142.<br>
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This reasonable inference is strengthened significantly by my knowledge that a 38-inch paper bag (with various folds and creases in it) <b>WAS</b> definitely found by the police within just a few feet of where we see a long-ish paper object (which <i>also</i> has some folds and creases in it) resting on top of the Sniper's Nest boxes in Commission Exhibit 508.<br>
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My reasonable inference is also buttressed by the additional fact that the photo in CE508 was taken <b>on the exact same day</b> that the police found the 38-inch paper bag in the far southeast corner on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building in Dallas, Texas, USA. That day being: Friday, November 22, 1963 AD.<br>
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But keep denying the "reasonable" nature of my above inference, Mr. Jesus. After all, that's what conspiracy theorists do best.<br>
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BTW / FWIW....<br>
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<b><a href="https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2004.msg64638.html#msg64638">Here's the original 2019 online forum discussion</a></b> concerning the "Paper Bag In CE508" discovery.<br>
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Interestingly enough, the fellow who first noticed the paper bag in the CE508 photograph (Patrick Jackson) seems to be a conspiracy believer, based on some of his other comments in the above-linked forum thread (such as in <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiE7h-1tgW-G5lbuGgxKn2V2EJEYUuF2YSY4rxJZ854aLICpH3WoP35bJvnDoAfc-jX8r7nR6LJUqFs7IGkQi2zzap7zstAkRB4Kq1P8shX_vVG1PohL6ZOm58hlkR-gjI3REpJ0Ny04n-LScyOYxenFpbgGlf1qhq7oSF4d77AbpcSr-jDClzbGG7a/s1245/Patrick-Jackson-Forum-Post.png">this post</a></b>).<br>
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Lots more "Paper Bag" discussion <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/#The-Paper-Bag">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/4qwzBqKqPjU/m/gC3qJ2RMAgAJ">June 6-8, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ADAM JOHNSON SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29192-life-magazine-november-8th-1963-just-14-days-prior-to-assassination/?do=findComment&comment=503115">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Here's the LIFE Magazine article you're looking for, Adam.....<br>
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<b><i><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=RVIEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA1&lr&pg=PA32#v=onepage&q&f=false">http://books.google.com/LIFE Magazine/11-8-63/Bobby Baker Article</a></i></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICAH MILETO SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29192-life-magazine-november-8th-1963-just-14-days-prior-to-assassination/?do=findComment&comment=503134">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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No, Micah, I don't have a copy of the November 1983 LIFE Magazine. But if you've got 50 bucks to spare, you can buy a copy....<br>
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<b><i><a href="https://www.originallifemagazines.com/product/life-magazine-november-1983">http://Original-Life-Magazines.com/November-1983</a></i></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:</span></b><br>
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FYI.....<br>
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<i>Google Books</i> is a fine resource for many complete copies of books and magazines, such as very old LIFE Magazine issues. But <i>Google Books</i> doesn't have anything online for LIFE Magazine newer than the year 1972.<br>
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Oldest LIFE edition (August 17, 1953) --- <b><a href="https://books.google.com/books/serial/ulYEAAAAMBAJ?rview=0&lr=&sa=N&start=985">Click Here</a></b>.<br>
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Newest LIFE edition (December 29, 1972) -- <b><a href="https://books.google.com/books/serial/ulYEAAAAMBAJ?rview=0&lr=&sa=N&start=0">Click Here</a></b>.<br>
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And (if you're interested)....I have a page on one of my JFK websites featuring 46 LIFE Magazine issues focusing on JFK and the Kennedy family (and I've also saved a bunch of the cool full-page advertisements that LIFE used to run in their issues in the '50s and '60s)....<br>
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<span style="font-size:141%;"><b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/08/life-with-john-f-kennedy.html">DVP's JFK Archives/Life With John F. Kennedy</a></i></b></span><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29192-life-magazine-november-8th-1963-just-14-days-prior-to-assassination/?do=findComment&comment=503117">June 6, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BILL BROWN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29191-greg-parker-sums-up-the-warren-commissions-case-perfectly/?do=findComment&comment=503244">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You're ohhhhhhh so right here, Bill.<br>
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I get so tired of hearing CTers confront me with that tired old canard/myth/red herring, in which the CTer is trying to tell me that the <b>ONLY</b> reason the police went to the Texas Theater on November 22nd was because somebody didn't pay for a theater ticket. I just want to <i>strangle</i> the person who has the gall to say that to me (such as the CTer I was talking to in <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2016/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1106.html">this 2016 discussion</a></b>).<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29191-greg-parker-sums-up-the-warren-commissions-case-perfectly/?do=findComment&comment=503257">June 7, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GIL JESUS SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29197-sound-like-a-guy-who-is-going-to-kill-the-president-tomorrow/?do=findComment&comment=503312">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I think that the assassination would almost certainly have not occurred had Marina and Lee agreed to get back together on November 21st. And Vincent Bugliosi thought so too. Listen:<br>
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More on this topic <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/01/lee-harvey-oswalds-decision-to-shoot-jfk.html">HERE</a></b>.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">ALLEN LOWE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29197-sound-like-a-guy-who-is-going-to-kill-the-president-tomorrow/?do=findComment&comment=503363">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Can I expect to see seven FBI agents at my door any minute with a warrant for my arrest?<br>
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And then there's that bombshell book I can look forward to seeing on the newsstands later this year --- <span style="font-size:119%;"><i><b>"Colonel Sanders, DVP, And The Murder Of JFK: From Kentucky, To Indiana, To A Tragedy <br>In Texas"</i></b></span> [Simon & Schuster; Hardcover; 788 pages; $24.95 USD].<br>
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(Yes, I think you'd better try to work <b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2011/08/colonel-sanders-biography.html">The Colonel</a></b> into your plot too, Allen. It'll be much better for your book sales. Because I don't have any name recognition.)<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29197-sound-like-a-guy-who-is-going-to-kill-the-president-tomorrow/?do=findComment&comment=503361">June 8, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BENJAMIN COLE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29196-nellie-connally-destroys-the-single-bullet-theory/?do=findComment&comment=503371">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Virtually <b>ALL</b> lone-assassin supporters posit that very thing [i.e., that after being shot, John Connally turned around in his jump seat to look at JFK], including the Warren Commission. And that's because Connally has <i>obviously</i> been shot by the time he completely turns around to stare into JFK's face. Only selected CTers believe otherwise.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29196-nellie-connally-destroys-the-single-bullet-theory/?do=findComment&comment=503451">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I didn't "make" <b><a href="https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AXW-bE6isPQ/UolNvHneNSI/AAAAAAAAw1I/wwG51z8e7zY/s1600/Z-Film+Clip+%28SBT+In+Motion%29%282%29.gif">this Zapruder Film clip</a></b>. I got it off the Internet many years ago.<br>
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If there's a frame missing in that Z-Film clip [also seen below], I was completely unaware of it (until now [June 9, 2023]).<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29196-nellie-connally-destroys-the-single-bullet-theory/?do=findComment&comment=503452">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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No. Both victims are jerking their right hands upward at exactly the same moment at Z226 (see the next clip below). Ergo, they are "REACTING" at the exact same time.<br>
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Also -- Even if Z227 is missing from the previous clip [as Sandy Larsen has alleged], that would certainly not debunk the "Connally Arm Jerk" which begins at precisely Z226 (as this two-frame clip amply illustrates):<br>
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Plus....Connally, at Z225, is clearly also reacting in different ways to having just been hit by a bullet --- his mouth opens, a discernible grimace comes across his face (IMO), his eyes close, his shoulders jerk upward in a reflex action (a very typical "startle" type of response), and there's also the lapel/tie movement at Z224/225. The clip below ends at Z225:<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29196-nellie-connally-destroys-the-single-bullet-theory/?do=findComment&comment=503530">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The HSCA was wrong. Their <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQ7so7oZe6Yv6uirmEs8DqSxW6WIyWlLcyjhZBdUiOAFpMAQpteFk_p6AEYXmHmSuY-ex8M6q-cujPCZ2iEcQkP35ffNfkk6_DzXb7cbtnA2yVmdl9JVqd23-mqdV8YOl_y5YHpFl5HnQGmvlmreALeWd1-fEYvKudlWoRebUmkLXVEn1--upH_qWv/s878/Reclaiming%20History%20Book%20Excerpt%20--%20The%20%27Highly%20Unlikely%27%20Shot%20At%20Z190.png">ridiculously early Z190</a></b> timing for the SBT is....well, as I just said....ridiculous.<br>
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If JFK had been hit in the back by a bullet as early as Z190, it is inconceivable that we would see his hands <b>AS LOW</b> as they are in Z224 and Z225:<br>
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And, btw, when watching the above Z224-Z225 Z-Film clip a few times in a row, a good argument can be made for Kennedy actually <b>LOWERING</b> his right hand a little bit between those two frames, which only further tends to discredit the HSCA's absurdly early Z190 timeline for the SBT shot.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29196-nellie-connally-destroys-the-single-bullet-theory/?do=findComment&comment=503531">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Well, Sandy, since you're an anti-SBT conspiracy theorist, naturally I wouldn't expect you to believe that all (or <i>any</i>) of that Connally <b>shoulder-flinching</b> and <b>lapel-bulging</b> and <b>eye-closing</b> and <b>mouth-opening</b> and <b>grimacing</b> and <b>arm-jerking</b> (one frame later at Z226) had anything whatsoever to do with the bullet that even you know <i>did</i> strike Governor Connally's body at <i>just about the exact same time</i> in Dealey Plaza.<br>
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All of that "jerky" kind of stuff we see happening with Mr. Connally between Z225 and approx. Z230 is probably just a fantastic coincidence of some kind. But none of those reactions can <i>possibly</i> be related to the bullet that hit him in the back that day. Right, Sandy?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN SAID <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgB6_DoPPLI4y2fko5Y0TGUDA3xWWNl10x5Y0FDNQU6rgJS_06cjy-jEzsKfBaI4nOcrXZ_Vugkd7VJx6WRIdbDzsZhKsqtoWWstNXvTqWb6sCVGEiLRZ50CNeANc7i00JGmnvlNU4rDxKxUgl6u0Dmo6sbygZRC8sQBWkubSfkMD3Znv0MExXbH5uR/s2000/EF-Post-June-2023.png">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Oh brother!<br>
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And the incredible <b>SBT Denial</b> continues unabated!<br>
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Congratulations, Sandy, on continuing that rich tradition.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SANDY LARSEN THEN EDITED HIS PREVIOUS POST, TOTALLY DELETING <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgB6_DoPPLI4y2fko5Y0TGUDA3xWWNl10x5Y0FDNQU6rgJS_06cjy-jEzsKfBaI4nOcrXZ_Vugkd7VJx6WRIdbDzsZhKsqtoWWstNXvTqWb6sCVGEiLRZ50CNeANc7i00JGmnvlNU4rDxKxUgl6u0Dmo6sbygZRC8sQBWkubSfkMD3Znv0MExXbH5uR/s2000/EF-Post-June-2023.png">THESE COMMENTS</a> AND REPLACING THEM WITH <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29196-nellie-connally-destroys-the-single-bullet-theory/?do=findComment&comment=503536">THIS POST</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I'm glad I was able to <b><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh8CGm2mTTVIUup25RP9H-aRFntqkVqdWMSKqbZk9cgA_PxbMwP3I15mOAyVMThjngS5l2q-MLVNae_-9WNGRjpG_kpdvprDFpAxU0VvjaedI7gDfUtOOd9rz4O5Im0KNobSpt6k6y-DXtNwMEPVa9Ba_s4rllKpEo-LlrgpSWPsLWwYvEitNqFNZHJ/s1281/EF-2023.png">screen capture</a></b> the original version of Sandy Larsen's last post, before he decided to completely delete/change those comments to something else almost as equally absurd.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">GERRY DOWN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29196-nellie-connally-destroys-the-single-bullet-theory/?do=findComment&comment=503571">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Gerry,<br>
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To answer your question, the Connally "Lapel Flip" was first noticed/"discovered" in 1975 (see <b><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fiW84_7U6O42zWDe13qw-QsuLuVAMIvA/view">this 3-page excerpt</a></b> from Vincent Bugliosi's book).<br>
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<span style="font-size: 170%;">Lots more "SBT" debate <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-887.html">HERE</a></b>.</span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size:206%;">SOME OFF-TOPIC FOOD FUN....</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID G. HEALY SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29196-nellie-connally-destroys-the-single-bullet-theory/?do=findComment&comment=503610">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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Try telling that to all these people in Austin, Texas, in 1960. Or do you think all these customers were buying the "hamburgers" also being advertised?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">SEAN COLEMAN SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29196-nellie-connally-destroys-the-single-bullet-theory/?do=findComment&comment=503618">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Yes indeedy!<br>
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Just look at the low prices in <b><a href="http://dvp-potpourri.blogspot.com/2011/08/colonel-sanders-biography.html#KFC-Newspaper-Ads">these KFC ads</a></b> from the 1950s and 1960s.<br>
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I was looking just today [June 11, 2023] at what the local KFC in my town is currently charging for some of their menu items, and it's almost obscene. If you can believe it, a bucket of 16 pieces of chicken (chicken only, mind you, with no sides included), costs $48.99 -- plus tax of course! (I kid you not.)<br>
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(Did anybody faint yet? I almost did when I saw that price.)<br>
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I'm sure glad I retired from the KFC food service industry before such outrageous prices hit the menus. I remember being quite embarrassed to tell people at the drive-thru that their family meal would cost them $25 or so back in the 1990s. Today, a full family meal can easily set you back a hundred bucks. It's unreal.<br>
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But let's now go back to a time (in early 1966) when you didn't need to mortgage the homestead AND sell the car just in order to enjoy a good meal with the Colonel.... 😁 <br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I always enjoy it immensely when I am able to dig up a "new" JFK-related audio or video recording that I had not heard or seen before.<br>
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Such was my good fortune on June 16th, 2023, when I came across the <i>WRUL</i> shortwave radio broadcast from November 22, 1963, linked below.<br>
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<i>WRUL</i> (for "World Radio University Listeners") was a shortwave radio station in Massachusetts. In 1966, the call letters of the station were changed to <i>WNYW</i> (for <b><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNYW_(shortwave)">"New York Worldwide"</a></b>).<br>
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This rare 11/22/63 audio was provided by Todd Kosovich and Tom Gavaras (via <b><a href="https://archive.org/details/wrul-radio-new-york-worldwide-jfk-assassination-coverage-11-22-1963">Archive.org</a></b>). Many thanks to those two gentlemen. ....<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22174-kennedy-videos/?do=findComment&comment=504375">June 19, 2023</a><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MICHAEL GRIFFITH SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29222-the-real-reason-why-oswald-went-to-irving-on-112163/?do=findComment&comment=504324">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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If Oswald was really telling the truth to the police about his lunch, then you've got to wonder why Oswald told Buell Frazier that he was going to buy his lunch that day.<br>
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Frazier specifically remembers Lee having <b>NO LUNCH BAG</b> with him at all on 11/22/63 and Frazier also specifically remembered Oswald saying he was going to buy his lunch that day (see the testimony below).<br>
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<b>BUELL WESLEY FRAZIER -- "When he [LHO] rode with me, I say he always brought lunch except that one day on November 22. He didn't bring his lunch that day."<br>
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JOE BALL -- "Did you notice whether or not Lee had a package that looked like a lunch package that morning?"<br>
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MR. FRAZIER -- "You know like I told you earlier, I say, he didn't take his lunch because I remember right when I got in the car I asked him where was his lunch and he said he was going to buy his lunch that day."<br>
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<a href="https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/frazierb1.htm">https://jfk-assassination.net/russ/Buell Frazier's WC Testimony</a></b><br>
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Do conspiracy believers <i>really</i> think Buell Frazier was the one who was lying about Lee Oswald's lunch?<br>
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Also see --- <b><i><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/#The-Paper-Bag">http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/#The-Paper-Bag</a></i></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CORY SANTOS SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29222-the-real-reason-why-oswald-went-to-irving-on-112163/?do=findComment&comment=504507">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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You're surely not placing an ounce of faith in the statements of <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1344.html">Carolyn Arnold</a></b>....are you Cory? If so, I think you should re-evaluate your position.<br>
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And other than Carolyn Arnold, who else do you have that said they saw Oswald actually eating on 11/22?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CORY SANTOS SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29222-the-real-reason-why-oswald-went-to-irving-on-112163/?do=findComment&comment=504555">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Re: Buell Frazier saying he thought shots came from the area of the Triple Underpass....<br>
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He, like <b><a href="http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/09/dealey-plaza-earwitnesses.html">many other witnesses</a></b>, was simply incorrect about this. He was fooled by the acoustics that existed in Dealey Plaza.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CORY SANTOS SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29222-the-real-reason-why-oswald-went-to-irving-on-112163/?do=findComment&comment=504599">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Well, yeah, I guess you're right. Perhaps the words that Buell Frazier said that Oswald uttered to him on the morning of Nov. 22 (<i><b>"I'm going to buy my lunch today"</i></b>) could have become completely distorted by the acoustics of the nearby carport or by some other freak occurrence, which made Oswald's <i>actual</i> comment (<i><b>"I've got my cheese and apple lunch in this huge paper bag, Wesley"</i></b>) only <i><b>falsely</i></b> sound like <i>"I'm gonna buy my lunch"</i> to Buell Wesley Frazier's ears.<br>
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Not a very likely error for Buell to make. But, hey, anything's possible, right? 😃 <br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">MATT ALLISON SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29222-the-real-reason-why-oswald-went-to-irving-on-112163/?do=findComment&comment=504655">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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I don't see any reason to assume the rifle was "in pieces" when it was transported to and from New Orleans in the spring and summer of 1963.<br>
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Why would anyone assume such a thing?<br>
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I don't know how the rifle was specifically packed for transit. Nobody does. But I can reasonably infer that Oswald's C2766 Carcano rifle <b>WAS</b> transported (in some manner) to and from New Orleans in 1963.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">CORY SANTOS SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29222-the-real-reason-why-oswald-went-to-irving-on-112163/?do=findComment&comment=504677">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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It doesn't matter one bit whether Oswald ate lunch or not on 11/22. Oswald's still guilty (the overall evidence proves that fact many times over)---with or without a lunch in his stomach.<br>
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As I said <b><a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29222-the-real-reason-why-oswald-went-to-irving-on-112163/?do=findComment&comment=504672">earlier</a></b>....<br>
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<i>"Now, I suppose we can speculate that Oswald DID, indeed, buy his lunch from the catering truck that morning and then ate it sometime before 12:30. But even if that did occur, it certainly would not exonerate Oswald for the President's murder in any way at all."</i><br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29222-the-real-reason-why-oswald-went-to-irving-on-112163/?do=findComment&comment=504476">June 19-21, 2023</a><br>
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Reality Break (Re: The CE573 Walker Bullet)....<br>
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The fact that CE573 <b>cannot be linked to any specific rifle</b> is virtual proof, right there, that it was not "planted" into the evidence pile. Because only a total idiot would want to do something so stupid. Although, yes, CE573 looks exactly like CE399 in many respects. No doubt about it. But if you're going to go to the trouble of PLANTING a bullet to frame a particular person, you're surely going to <i>make sure</i> that that bullet can be tied <i>exclusively</i> to the patsy's gun.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BENJAMIN COLE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29239-steve-roe-please-reveal-your-mystery-witness/?do=findComment&comment=504502">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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CE573 (just like CE399) is a <b>Full <i>METAL</i> Jacketed</b> (FMJ) bullet.<br>
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And....<br>
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Steel = Metal.<br>
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Copper = Metal.<br>
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And....<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b><i>"Some individuals commonly refer to rifle bullets as steel-jacketed bullets, when they actually in fact just have a copper alloy jacket."</i> -- Robert A. Frazier of the FBI (<a href="http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh3/html/WC_Vol3_0224a.htm">3 H 439</a>)</b></span><br>
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Conspiracy theorists always make way way too much out of the "Steel" reference when it comes to CE573. They just can't fathom that Robert A. Frazier was right about what he said to the Warren Commission in the testimony I just quoted above.<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">BENJAMIN COLE SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29239-steve-roe-please-reveal-your-mystery-witness/?do=findComment&comment=504504">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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Ben,<br>
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Bob Frazier was a firearms expert for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I would think that his word just might mean a <i>little</i> something when it comes to the subject of bullets. But most CTers (naturally) just want to toss aside everything he said.<br>
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But even with the "Steel/Copper" controversy staring us in the face every day, Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt in the Walker shooting has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt in multiple other <i>non-ballistic</i> ways, such as in <b><a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0013a.htm">Commission Exhibit No. 1</a></b>.<br>
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Am I <i>really</i> supposed to believe that one of the following two things is true regarding Commission Exhibit No. 1?....<br>
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<b>1.</b> The cops (or Feds) faked Lee Oswald's handwriting in CE1.<br>
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Or:<br>
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<b>2.</b> Oswald was really referring to something totally <i>unrelated</i> to the Walker shooting in the note he wrote to Marina (which became CE1).<br>
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And then there's Marina's own testimony about Lee himself confessing to having shot at Walker:<br>
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<span style="font-size: large;"><b><i>"He [Lee] told me that he had shot at General Walker."</i> -- Marina Oswald (<a href="https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh1/html/WC_Vol1_0014b.htm">1 H 16</a>)</b></span><br>
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More lies, Ben?<br>
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Question:<br>
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At what point does the <b>evidence</b> connected to the JFK and Tippit murder cases and the Walker shooting become something that can be utilized to actually try to <i>solve those three crimes</i>, versus the evidence being something that conspiracy theorists try their best to <i>explain away</i>, in their constant efforts to exonerate a certain Mr. Oswald?<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">LAWRENCE SCHNAPF SAID <a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29239-steve-roe-please-reveal-your-mystery-witness/?do=findComment&comment=504640">THIS</a>.</span></b><br>
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">DAVID VON PEIN SAID:</span></b><br>
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The proverbial <i>"I don't trust a single word the FBI said about the evidence"</i> gambit is the typical silly approach that many (or most) conspiracy theorists have adopted over the years. And it's the thing that enables many CTers to just make up any assassination scenario they want to -- despite their complete lack of <i>actual evidence</i> to support any of their beliefs.<br>
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David Von Pein<br>
<a href="https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29239-steve-roe-please-reveal-your-mystery-witness/?do=findComment&comment=504494">June 19-20, 2023</a><br>
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I really enjoyed watching and listening to the Sixth Floor Museum's 2016 Oral History interview with Dr. Cyril Wecht (linked below).<br>
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As you might have guessed, I totally disagree with Cyril's pro-conspiracy slant on the JFK assassination, but even so, it's nearly impossible not to personally like Dr. Wecht. His enthusiasm and passion when he discusses the John Kennedy murder case, even after all these years of talking about it over and over again, are things I can't help but admire. And keep in mind, Cyril was <i>85 years old</i> at the time of this interview! And his mind is still as sharp as they come. (He's 92 as of the date of this post [June 22, 2023], and still going strong.)<br>
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This interview is 82 minutes long....of which Dr. Wecht is speaking for about 80 of those minutes (maybe even more). No kidding. But that's not too surprising to me, because I know Cyril loves to talk. And, boy, he sure does a lot of that here. But even a dedicated "LNer" like myself (of all people) thoroughly enjoyed this interview....<br>
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Here's some information I've just added to my <b><a href="http://jfk-assassination-as-it-happened.blogspot.com/2013/11/wtic-radio.html">WTIC-Radio (Hartford, Connecticut) webpages</a></b> concerning WTIC's coverage on the day of JFK's assassination. The text that I captured in the image below was written in 2013 by Doug Bertel, son of WTIC newsman <b><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Bertel">Dick Bertel</a></b>. Click for a bigger view:<br>
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