JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS
(PART 1158)
(PART 1158)
A CONSPIRACY BELIEVER NAMED PHIL SAID:
What hard evidence is there that LHO was at [the] 6th [floor window of the TSBD] as JFK passed?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
PHIL SAID:
You did not provide the answer at all. Neither did Bugliosi or Posner.
Your huge assumption he was at [the] 6th [floor] as JFK passed is as conspiratorial as any theory out there.
Also, you say Brennan was 1000% on the money when he was unsure at the lineup? Brennan's view from the street is good enough for you to send a man to the electric chair?
Your case for [a] lone nut has less weight than fence shooter. Excellent witnesses to the fence shooter ignored by [Earl] Warren, but you trust Warren?
What a joke.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
You think there's AS MUCH evidence for "Fence Shooter" as there is that LHO did it? Oh, my.
OSWALD'S prints in the Sniper's Nest.
OSWALD'S rifle is the murder weapon (which was on the 6th floor).
OSWALD'S prints on the paper bag in the Sniper's Nest. (No, I don't think it was planted there. You probably do, however.)
OSWALD kills Officer J.D. Tippit in flight.
OSWALD lies repeatedly to the cops. (An innocent person lies that much?)
Fence Shooter has that kind of corroborative evidence, eh? I think not.
How anyone can think LHO is innocent is the bigger mystery.
But, to each his own.
PHIL SAID:
Why do you think [Gerald] Ford adjusted the autopsy drawing to [conform] to [the] "magic bullet theory"?
Not suspicious to you?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Because the way it was originally worded was obviously stupid and impossible. Here's why (see "Addendum")...
JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/Gerald Ford And The SBT
PHIL SAID:
I can't find the answer in all the stuff you told me to read.
Views from the street would never send him to the chair.
FBI lab found no marks on his face.
I do think he was involved at some level, but you have not provided evidence to send him to the chair.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
He goes to the chair based on just the Tippit murder alone.
You surely don't deny that he killed Officer Tippit, do you?
PHIL SAID:
Thank you for the reply!
Let's see...you actually acknowlege no evidence at 6th floor (LHO beyond doubt WAS there AS JFK passed)? Holy sh*t! ok.
But you say enough for the chair over Tippitt [sic]? I do not see any hard evidence to say he was the killer BUT (and this is a big step for me) I think he MAY have done the deed because WHO ELSE would leave the ID?
You see, he left the wallet there and the rifle at the bulding TO BE CAUGHT!
That's another book.
But still, although it makes "sense", there's no witnesses! I believe also that the bullets don't fit the barrel of his handgun. The chair as a result? HOW?
Here's my scenario: LHO was some kind of CIA related assassin because he most likely tried to assassinate Walker. He was also "hired" to be a stooge on 11-22-63 because a trained Marine could never make that kill shot; powers that be would never trust him after the Walker "fail".
Not a nice guy. At best, a guy convinced assassinating is ok for the good of the country.
Finally, he goes to trial: is found guilty of being an accessory. I don't know what kind of sentence.
I think my scenario is perfect!
Thanks again for taking your time to reply.
Phil
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
You said: "...you actually acknowlege no evidence at 6th floor...?"
But I never said any such thing. The evidence on the sixth floor of the Depository (plus the eyewitnesses) certainly point to Oswald and HIS RIFLE.
And Oswald's ACTIONS point to him. And Oswald's LIES point to him. Plus the Tippit murder points to him, which was (IMO) unquestionably part of the same murderous transaction that began in Dealey Plaza on November 22.
As Vincent Bugliosi asked....
"In a city of more than 700,000 people, what is the probability of one of them being the owner and possessor of the weapons that murdered both Kennedy and Tippit, and yet still be innocent of both murders? Aren't we talking about DNA numbers here, like one out of several billion or trillion? Is there a mathematician in the house?" -- Vince Bugliosi; Page 964 of "Reclaiming History"
The evidence of Oswald's guilt is clear and spread out over multiple parts of Dallas, Texas --- from Elm Street to 10th Street to Jefferson Boulevard where he was apprehended and right on into City Hall where he lied his head off after his arrest.
To believe in Oswald's innocence requires believing in a lot of things that have been conveniently bent toward "conspiracy" and "evidence fakery". I don't travel down such paths, because they are not reasonable paths to traverse.
PHIL SAID:
Bullets in Tippett [sic] could not have come from LHO pistol.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Dead wrong. Learn the evidence, Phil.
The bullets taken from Tippit's body were perfectly consistent with the type of undersized .38 Special ammunition that Oswald used in his .38 Smith & Wesson revolver.
Plus, there's testimony from the independent firearms expert, Joseph Nicol, which has Nicol concluding that one of the four Tippit bullets positively did come from Oswald's V510210 S&W revolver....
Mr. EISENBERG -- "Mr. Nicol, finally I hand you a group of four bullets marked Commission Exhibits 602, 603, 604, and 605, which I state for the record were recovered from the body of Officer Tippit, and a group of two bullets marked Commission Exhibit 606, which I state for the record were fired by the FBI through the revolver, Commission Exhibit 143. .... Did you examine Exhibits 602 through 605 to determine whether they have been fired from the same weapon as fired 606?"
JOSEPH NICOL -- "Yes; I did."
Mr. EISENBERG -- "What was your conclusion?"
Mr. NICOL -- "Due to mutilation, I was not able to determine whether 605, 604, and 602 were fired in the same weapon. There were similarity of class characteristics--that is to say, there is nothing evident that would exclude the weapon. However, due to mutilation and apparent variance between the size of the barrel and the size of the projectile, the reproduction of individual characteristics was not good, and therefore I was unable to arrive at a conclusion beyond that of saying that the few lines that were found would indicate a modest possibility. But I would not by any means say that I could be positive. However, on specimen 603...I found sufficient individual characteristics to lead me to the conclusion that that projectile was fired in the same weapon that fired the projectiles in 606."
Mr. EISENBERG -- "That is to the exclusion of all other weapons?"
Mr. NICOL -- "Yes, sir."
PHIL SAID:
Two men were seen with Tippett [sic]. But there are no witnesses pointing to LHO as the shooter.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Total nonsense. Click here.
You, Phil, need to learn how to properly evaluate the TOTALITY OF EVIDENCE in the JFK case.
When you've done that, give me a shout.
David Von Pein
June 14—July 26, 2016
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