CHUCK SCHUYLER SAID:
The experts say Oswald took a shot at Walker.
BORIS SAID:
There is no "expert" who said Oswald took a shot at Walker. You're just an asshole liar. Big surprise. All you have is "what Marina said". Don't feel bad. That's all anyone had on the Walker incident. That's why you like her so much.
CHUCK SCHUYLER SAID:
Marina's words on the Walker attempt are damning, and they are extensive, and she's never wavered from her belief that your hero Oswald tried to kill Walker. Couple that with the note, and a bullet found from the Walker scene that cannot be excluded as being from Oswald's rifle, and that's what makes the most sense. Oswald is historically guilty of taking a shot at Walker.
BORIS SAID:
A note!
That said what?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
It's a note that was positively proven to have been written (in Russian) by Lee Harvey Oswald. And it proves that Lee was about to go out and do something pretty bad on April 10, 1963, that might land him in jail or the morgue. (What could that have been, do you suppose?)
Do you, Boris, think this note left by LHO (Warren Commission Exhibit No. 1) is referring to some OTHER (non-Walker) terrible thing that Oswald was planning on doing on 4/10/63?
If the note isn't referring to the shooting of General Edwin Walker, then what could that terrible and illegal thing have been that Oswald thinks might get him killed (or arrested) on April 10th?
Please enlighten us, Mr. CTer. Or would you rather stick to the usual wishy-washy cop-out answer that most CTers like to use---i.e., "It's Fake"?
BORIS SAID:
Begging the question. And frankly ASTOUNDING that you are able to glean **that much information** from such an innocuous note, and yet NO INFORMATION AT ALL from the Katzenbach memo. This shows your bias in triplicate.
BEN HOLMES SAID:
Actually, and David is too dishonest to mention this - but only one of the three handwriting experts of the HSCA considered this authentic.
It's undated, and had neither Marina nor Oswald's fingerprints on it, even though it had seven latent prints found on it.
BUD SAID:
As Ben ignores the information that gives insight to put all his focus on something that can take him nowhere.
[...]
"It's the evidence", the idiots cry. Meanwhile, they ignore the evidence.
[...]
This is why idiots are not tapped to conduct investigations.
BEN HOLMES SAID:
Tell us David - why do you think lying will advance your cause?
Since the note is undated, where did you come up with a date for the note?
Could it be that you're simply lying again?
BUD SAID:
He didn't say the letter was written on the 10th, stupid.
BORIS SAID:
~snicker~ The retard has come to chew bubble gum and split hairs. And he's all out of bubble gum.
BUD SAID:
Interesting that you see it as "splitting hairs" when Ben misrepresents what DVP said. Ben claimed I was "parsing" when I pointed out Lane's outright lie about Clemmons witnessing the slaying of Officer Tippit. All these weasel word excuses when you get caught lying.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
It's just like a conspiracy clown (such as Benjamin Holmes) to totally ignore the main thrust of my comments regarding the "Walker" letter and focus only on a side issue of exactly WHEN Oswald wrote the note. A typical diversion by a typical Anybody-But-Oswald fantasist.
And I'm sure Holmes is willing to totally ignore Oswald's photos of Walker's backyard too. Right, Benny?
BORIS SAID:
Supposing Oswald did it with the aid of his Camp Street comrades? One shooter, one lookout guy, one getaway driver. You can speculate all you want about the note alluding to April 10th, but you could never speculate in any way about Oswald having any confederates, could you? Antithetical to your religion, isn't it? Deadly sin number 3, I believe?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Why does he need to bury the rifle if he's got a "getaway driver"?
Let me guess---Marina lied about that too, right?
BORIS SAID:
This is your problem, David. You operate from a point of assumption, then beg the question backwards. What rifle did he bury? How do you know he buried it? Because someone said so? Did it without a shovel too, I guess?
Here's a "gotcha": how does Santa Claus get into houses that don't have chimneys? I know that's how he gets in, because that's what I've been told. I have sources that told me, so I don't need evidence of any kind.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
But you somehow aren't engaging in a "point of assumption" when you imply that LHO's "Camp Street comrades" were involved with Oswald in the Walker shooting, is that it?
Looks to me like standards have just been doubled.
BORIS SAID:
No, that was a hypothetical.
You, as always, are being literal.
Just like it's not a "theory" that Oswald was alone and buried his gun, I guess using his fingers to dig a two-foot-long hole. For you, this is fact. Just like even though two people were seen running from the scene towards a car, you've simply decided it's fact they weren't involved and it's completely unrelated. No hypothetical from you. Not even the option of the possibility that they could be linked. You've just gone straight for the "nah" with no evidence whatsoever supporting your theory, or denying the alternative.
Yours is the dictionary definition of faith, and faith-based persecution. And this is just me in casual observation mode, since to me there is no skin in the game as to whether or not he shot Walker, because it has nothing to do with the JFK assassination other than the WC arbitrarily mentioned the former, and so you are forced to believe it.
Now try saying something factual (as in backed by EVIDENCE, and not the hearsay of 'wut Marina sed') without your dipshit shrugs and moronic "orb-rolls", you sellout wasteland.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Why not try PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER, Boris? (Can't hurt, can it?)
....Oswald receives a rifle via mail order in late March.
....Oswald takes pictures of Walker's house.
....Oswald comes home very late on April 10th. (Was Marina lying about that too? Why of course you think she was. Per CT Fantasists the world over, Marina Oswald was trying to frame her husband for yet another murder attempt that she really has no reason to want to frame him for at all--the Walker shooting. But she did it nonetheless, per the ABO Brigade.)
....The Oswalds move to New Orleans very shortly after the Walker incident.
And the above doesn't even include Lee Oswald's confession to his wife about the Walker murder attempt and the fact that the Walker bullet (CE573) looks exactly like CE399 in many physical respects.
And isn't the TIMING of Oswald's rifle purchase just a tad bit interesting to even an ABO clown like yourself, "Boris"? Or do you want to pretend that all of the rifle-purchase documents are fakes too?
BORIS SAID:
Right, despite mail interception. Okay, I see where you're going with this:
A.) Ignore the points I made.
BUD SAID:
It comes down to you making demands that everything be explained to you or you will believe stupid things. You are going to believe stupid [things] regardless.
BORIS SAID:
B.) Pass off assumptions as if they are facts.
BUD SAID:
Pretty ironic. When you say Marina lied about the Walker attempt, you just assume she did, right? I mean you don't know it for a fact.
BORIS SAID:
C.) Silently ignore the money order discrepancies.
BUD SAID:
He addresses it at length on his blog, stupid. ....
BORIS SAID:
Since [Marina Oswald] is as big a compulsive liar as you are, there is no way to know if what she's saying is true or not. We *know* she's a compromised witness. We know it for a fact.
BUD SAID:
We know you are an idiot. And we know this for a fact.
BORIS SAID:
Receiving donations and threats of deportation. Kids to protect. And beyond that, presuming that because Oswald was out late, that it means he shot Walker. Because everyone who stays out late shoots at Walker.
BUD SAID:
Everyone comes home to their wife and admits they've taken a shot at a political figure?
BORIS SAID:
~snicker~ Literally your [Bud's] only function is to exist as a springboard for critics to segue into their ideas and evidence in any given conversation. You provide nothing else here, nor anything in your personal life.
BUD SAID:
Your greatest achievement in life is waking up to dry sheets. And you don't achieve that very often.
BORIS SAID:
Your [DVP's] allegiance to the official narrative is so blind that you wouldn't pause for a second to ask even the most basic things, or question anything. You are, of course, a zealot...and one with monetary interest in the LN narrative.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
The LN narrative is the only one that makes any sense at all. And it's a narrative that DOES fit the evidence --- CTer protests notwithstanding.
Conspiracy theorists have pretty much nothing but debunked myths and wishful thinking. But the physical evidence belongs in the "Lone Assassin Named Oswald" camp. And it always has.
BORIS SAID:
They [bullets CE573 and CE399] look nothing alike. One is mashed to shit, as if it had actually been shot at something and made contact. The other is so neatly shaped it would slide nicely up a baby's ass without the least bit discomfort, and come out looking the same.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
You're an idiot....
And....
"On June 12, 1964, [FBI] Exhibit C148 [aka CE573], a mutilated rifle slug, was shown to Billy Gene Norvell, former Dallas police officer, 1603 Darr Street, Apartment 147, Irving, Texas, by Special Agent Bardwell D. Odum, Federal Bureau of Investigation. He identified this exhibit as the same one which he had found at the residence of Major General Edwin A. Walker, Dallas, Texas, on April 10, 1963, and identified his marking on this slug." -- Warren Commission Exhibit No. 2011 (Page 6)
DAVID VON PEIN ALSO SAID:
BTW, the term "bury" doesn't have to mean that Oswald needed to dig to China to hide his rifle from the view of others. "Bury", in this case, could merely mean "placed in a ditch and covered over with leaves and debris". Lee didn't necessarily need a shovel to keep his rifle out of the sight of others.
BORIS SAID:
Not interested in your "coulds" or "maybes". Not interested in your speculation.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bury
Not interested in your hypotheticals, because you ALWAYS and ONLY speak facts, otherwise you'd be the kook, not me. So what **did** "bury" mean? Not the dictionary definition, as we see.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
You're an idiot (again). Definition 2B fits my needs just fine....
BURY --- "To cover from view".
BORIS SAID:
Lee didn't need lots of things.
He didn't need a shovel to dig a hole.
He didn't need a means to conceal his weapon on a bus.
He didn't need to bring with him more bullets than he intended to use in DP [Dealey Plaza].
He didn't need to show Albert Bogard the license he never had in order to test-drive the car he wasn't able to drive from the dealership.
He didn't need to mail-order a rifle from a store a thousand miles away.
He didn't need cleaning equipment for his rifle.
He didn't need the better-paying job at the airport once he was in the TSBD.
He didn't need more than three wallets.
He didn't need fingerprints to write his letter to Marina.
This list could go on forever. You're a fool.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Nothing there but a pile of red herrings being put forth by an ABO conspiracy clown who will continue to totally ignore something known as "The Sum Total" of evidence in the JFK and J.D. Tippit murder cases, with that Sum Total clearly indicating the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was a double-murderer in 1963.
BORIS SAID:
No, asshole. Not red herrings.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Yes. They are red herrings. Every single one of them.
But continue to ignore all the evidence that points to OSWALD ALONE as Kennedy's and Tippit's killer. After all, ignoring the evidence (or pretending it's all fake) is what conspiracy-happy zealots do best, 24/7.
David Von Pein
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