JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS
(PART 1089)


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

He [Lee Harvey Oswald] did not run out of the building. He went into the lunch room and got a Coke...


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Very likely because he heard people coming up the stairs to the second floor. So he ducked into the lunchroom. Perfectly consistent with his guilt.

Now, prove he was coming UP from the first floor.


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

...Stopped to talk to a secretary.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Dead wrong. Oswald never "stopped" to talk to anybody in the second-floor office area. Mrs. Reid TALKED TO HIM. Not the other way around. And he didn't stop:

MRS. REID -- "I kept walking and I looked up and Oswald was coming in the back door of the office. I met him by the time I passed my desk several feet and I told him, I said, "Oh, the President has been shot, but maybe they didn't hit him." He mumbled something to me, I kept walking. He did, too."


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

...Was confronted by a policeman. All that took time. That is not leaving as fast as he could.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Yes, it is leaving as fast as he could. That is, he left as fast as he could without drawing unneeded attention to himself.

Or maybe you think he should have jumped out of the sixth-floor window after shooting the President. (Oh, yeah, you're in denial about Oswald's guilt. I forgot.)


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

And again you beg the question, assuming that Oswald was the shooter.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

I don't assume he was the shooter. The evidence proves he was the shooter. (Oh, I forgot, all of the evidence is fake, right Tony? Including: the gun, the prints, the bullets, the shells, the paper bag with LHO's prints, and the fibers.)


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

Like most WC defenders, you call black white and white black.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

You've got things backwards again, Anthony. The CTers are the "black is white" experts. You're back on Neptune again today I see.


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

When we point out that the rifle shoots high and to the right and call that a defect, the true WC defender says no, it is an advantage for the shooter shooting at a moving target down on Elm.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

I don't know if it was truly an "advantage" in Oswald's case, but I do think that the "high and to the right" factor was possibly the reason why Oswald's first shot missed the entire automobile.


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

When someone claims he is innocent, you use that to prove that he is guilty.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

You're silly, Tony. The evidence amply proves Oswald was guilty of shooting both Kennedy and Tippit, and you know it. You just like to argue. Simple as that.


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

You are proud of the cover-up and alteration of Baker's statement in which he originally said that Oswald had a bottle of Coke.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

What statement are you talking about? Because if you're referring to the 9/23/64 document with the "Coke" crossed out, you know darn well that that document was NOT written by Marrion Baker. Baker only CORRECTED the incorrect data in that document and then initialed it.

All of that is explained in a common-sense manner here.


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

You are proud of the perjury. You need perjury to convict someone. If Oswald was in the Domino Room at the time, how would he know EXACTLY when the assassination was and EXACTLY where he was at the moment the shots were fired?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

What in the world are you babbling on about now? Whose perjury? Marrion Baker's? Roy Truly's? Neither man perjured himself--ever.

And since Oswald was obviously on the sixth floor at 12:30, the rest of your above comment is worthless.


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

Yeah, let's just believe all the Dreyfus-did-it evidence, Right? Because the government proved he was guilty. That's your mindset. Saddam must have nuclear weapons because the government says so.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Why not stick to the subject at hand, Tony? Namely: the JFK assassination and Lee Harvey Oswald's involvement.


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

Why bothering having trials at all if you've already convicted the person in the press and killed him?


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

I didn't kill him, Tony. Jack Ruby did that.

And since there was no trial (due to Ruby's handiwork), does that mean we can never arrive at a reasonable conclusion about who killed President Kennedy?

Or do you want to pretend Oswald is innocent because of the ol' "Innocent Until Proven Guilty In A Court Of Law" excuse?

IOW -- To hell with the evidence. ONLY a jury in a courtroom can declare Oswald guilty. Is that correct, Mr. Marsh?


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

At least I don't use someone's claim of innocence as proof of guilt the way you do.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

I only use Oswald's claim of innocence against him because it was obviously a desperate lie on LHO's part. And the evidence proves he was lying. You know that, Tony.

Or should we just chuck all of that evidence out the nearest window (yet again), just because a bunch of conspiracy theorists have a feeling it was all tampered with?

Surely you jest.


ANTHONY MARSH SAID:

I have always said that Oswald killed Tippit.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

And just exactly why did he kill Tippit, Tony?

In other words: If he HADN'T just killed JFK, then what was the burning motive for Oswald to START KILLING PEOPLE just 45 minutes later?

David Von Pein
June 16, 2011