DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Part 1377 of my
"JFK Assassination Arguments" series includes a variety of my posts and comments covering the period of
June 1—30, 2024. To read the entire forum discussion from which my own comments have been extracted, click on the "Full Discussion" logo at the bottom of each individual segment.
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DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
FYI....
On June 5th, 2024, I created the mini-marathon video linked below, which includes all three of President Kennedy's
State of the Union addresses:
David Von Pein
June 6, 2024
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JAMES R. GORDON SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Suggestion....
IMO,
this thread should be UNPINNED from the very top of the forum (at least for a certain period of time---perhaps one month or so).
The reason I say that is because I didn't even see this interesting thread for two whole days after its creation, due to the fact that I never even bother to glance up at the Sticky threads at the top of the forum (as I nearly always assume, incorrectly in this instance, that there's nothing new in the Sticky/Pinned posts).
And if there are other people who have developed that same "Skip The Sticky Threads" habit, then a lot of members (and other visitors) are going to completely miss seeing this discussion.
TOM GRAM SAID THIS.
RON BULMAN SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
~sigh~
I agree. Which is precisely why I said this in my previous post (emphasis added in bold):
"...this thread should be UNPINNED from the very top of the forum (at least for a certain period of time---perhaps one month or so)."
Meaning: I think it
should definitely be a pinned thread again after a month or so. Once it drops to page 2, then it should be pinned (IMO).
49 MINUTES LATER, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Somebody contact CNN and all other news outlets! History has just been made! James R. Gordon and DVP actually agreed on something! (See image below.)
I'll get the champagne! Jim Gordon can get the balloons and confetti!
😁
LATER, DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
FYI....
Six hours after unpinning the thread, the owner of
The Education Forum, James Gordon, decided to
close the thread completely and allow no more posts to be made to it, even though the sole purpose of the thread was to try and get the thoughts of the forum's members as to how to improve the forum and make it better. That idea lasted for precisely 3 days and 5 minutes, then the discussion was locked. Go figure. ~shrug~
David Von Pein
June 7-8, 2024
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JOHNNY CAIRNS SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Yes and Yes. I do believe that the case against Lee Harvey Oswald in both the JFK and J.D. Tippit murders is "provable beyond a reasonable doubt".
Oswald's guilt in the Tippit murder is particularly convincing [
CLICK].
Many people, of course, disagree. But unless virtually all of the evidence against Oswald in the JFK and Tippit cases was faked/manufactured (which IMO is a ridiculous and absurd claim), then Lee Oswald was a double-murderer.
Speaking of the physical evidence....
Also See:
https://educationforum.com/topic/The-Burden-Of-Proof
JOHNNY CAIRNS SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
You asked how Dallas District Attorney Henry Wade would have been able to get Commission Exhibit No. 399 (the stretcher bullet) into evidence at Oswald's trial (had there been one). My answer to that is:
By calling to the stand Darrell Tomlinson and O.P. Wright, who will each say what they said in
CE2011 --- and that is that CE399 looks like the same bullet they each saw at Parkland Hospital on 11/22. It's not a positive identification, that's true. But no court would expect those first two witnesses who touched the bullet to give a POSITIVE identification anyway, because neither man marked the bullet (nor were they expected by anyone to mark the bullet).
And then it will be established by Henry Wade at trial that Bullet CE399 was a bullet that was positively fired in the rifle owned by Lee H. Oswald....which also happens to be the same gun that was found on the sixth floor of the Book Depository Building just 52 minutes after shots were fired into the President's limousine by that very same C2766 Carcano rifle (with that proof being provided by the introduction into evidence of CE567 and CE569, the two front-seat bullet fragments linked conclusively to Rifle C2766).
Given the totality of the bullet and rifle and shell (CE510) evidence which all corroborates each other and ties together and leads straight back to Rifle C2766, getting CE399 into evidence would be a piece of cake and is a piece of evidence that no trial judge would be inclined to exclude (except perhaps the corrupt Jim Garrison).
Also See:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/Vincent Bugliosi On CE399
David Von Pein
June 12-14, 2024
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DENISE HAZELWOOD SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
I strongly disagree with the very first sentence in your post above, Denise.
IMO, the best visual (photographic) evidence there is to demonstrate the correctness of the SBT is Commission Exhibit No. 903, which clearly and plainly shows that the Warren Commission did NOT "raise the back wound" up into the "neck" of JFK (which is a claim constantly being made by conspiracists). Just look for yourself and see where the WC (Arlen Specter) places the wound via his metal pointer/rod—it's definitely in the
BACK here, not the
NECK:
And the pointer is then being inserted into the exact same bullet hole in the coat that was being worn by John Connally when he was shot. And the angle of Specter's pointer (which perfectly matches the angle of the string that's on the wall in the background) is 17.72 degrees (17d-43m-30s), which matches the angle from Oswald's window to Kennedy's back wound at circa Zapruder frame Z217.5 (i.e., the average angle between Z210 and Z225) as measured by the surveyors out on Elm Street.
Pat Speer's persistent gripes concerning CE903 notwithstanding, that particular Commission exhibit (CE903) is just about as perfect in an "SBT" manner as you could get—which (when you dwell upon it for just a few minutes) is absolutely incredible if the CTers are correct about the SBT being nothing but a totally made-up crock of horse manure.
Lots more here:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/The SBT Perfection Of CE903
And here:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/Gerald Ford And The SBT
DAVID VON PEIN ADDED:
Has any conspiracy theorist in history ever made this basic observation?....
Boy, those assassins were sure a bunch of lucky sons of bitches when the guy who shot JFK in the throat from the front managed to hit Kennedy in exactly the right spot on his body so that (later on) the official investigators could utilize that entry wound in the throat as the point of exit for the SBT bullet. And then the multiple assassins got even luckier when the upper-back bullet and the bullet that entered the throat both decided not to exit the body and then both of those bullets vanished into puffs of smoke before either of those bullets (which obviously were still inside JFK's body when he was inside Trauma Room No. 1 at Parkland Hospital) could be seen by any non-conspirator. Can anyone truly believe that such incredible good fortune could possibly have existed amongst the (alleged) multiple shooters who were (allegedly) firing bullets at President Kennedy on 11/22/63?
(And yet CTers have the gall to tell me that
I am the one who believes in "Magic Bullets". Oy vey!)
DENISE HAZELWOOD SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Why do you say it's "incorrect"? The pointer is obviously NOT entering the "neck". It's the upper BACK. And, yes, I know that Arlen Specter's rod/pointer is going over the shoulder of the JFK stand-in, but what else could anybody expect via a demonstration of this sort? You can't expect Specter to sacrifice an FBI (or SS) agent just for the sake of a picture. So that makes the lateral [R-to-L] angle in the CE903 photo off by just a tiny bit so that Specter wouldn't have to skewer the agent sitting in JFK's seat.
Plus, as I said in a previous post, the angle is just right for it to lead back to the "Oswald" window (17.72 degrees)....which, I admit, is likely not the
exact angle that the SBT bullet took on Nov. 22. But a little bit of "margin of error" must be permitted the Warren Commission on the angles. Here's why:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/CE903-Part-3-Angles
TOM GRAM SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Some thoughts on the subject of Governor Connally's back wound
HERE.
BENJAMIN COLE SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
You might be right. It doesn't really matter to me if the bullet was tumbling or went straight into Mr. Connally's body. Whichever way it happened, I'm convinced (for a whole variety of reasons) that one single bullet hit both JFK and Gov. Connally in Dealey Plaza.
BENJAMIN COLE SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Then please explain why Gov. Connally jerked his right arm upward at Z226 (which just happened to be the same right arm/wrist that
was struck by a bullet in Dealey Plaza, even though you say it won't be hit by that bullet for another 3.7 seconds)?
So, is it your opinion, Ben, that this arm-jerking is merely an odd coincidence that has nothing to do with a bullet striking the Texas Governor?
BENJAMIN COLE SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Thanks for your thoughts on the matter, Ben.
But aren't the
simultaneous upward movements of JFK's arms
and John Connally's right arm at precisely Zapruder frame 226 enough to make you consider at least the
possibility that both limo victims were reacting at the same time and therefore were probably hit by the same bullet?
BENJAMIN COLE SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Thanks again, Ben, for a friendly and thoughtful reply. I disagree with your overall anti-SBT stance on the matter, but I appreciate your input.
In the final analysis, there are many things that add up (in my opinion) to the Single-Bullet Theory being the obvious and correct solution to explain the wounding of JFK and Connally---including analysis of the Zapruder Film, plus the complete lack of bullets in JFK's body at autopsy, the lack of any substantial damage to the interior structures of Kennedy's neck/back region, the pattern of bruises within JFK's neck, etc.
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/SBT Zapruder Film Clips
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/The Ultimate In SBT Denial
DENISE HAZELWOOD SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
I think I have been able to pinpoint the precise Z-film frame for the SBT. It's Z224.
*
* But, as some LNers prefer to say, the bullet was actually fired by Oswald from his sixth-floor sniper's perch at around Z222 or Z223. But I prefer to utilize Z224 as the "SBT frame" because it represents the first
visual signs on the film of the bullet's impact upon the victims, via the Connally lapel bulge/flip....
I believe we're seeing the immediate signs of physical reaction on the part of both JFK and John Connally at precisely Z225 (below) -- via the various things that are happening to Governor Connally in that frame (shrugging shoulders, opening his mouth into what I'd call a grimace, and his head seems to drop down slightly too, which would be indicative of a normal type of "startled" kind of response). Plus, at Z225, we see JFK's open mouth....
Unfortunately, however, due to that damn Stemmons sign, we'll never ever know for sure whether Mr. Kennedy's mouth was open or closed at Z224, but I'd wager the farm that his mouth is probably closed in that frame. Which would mean, if I could prove it (which is impossible), that we'd then have the mouths of
BOTH victims being closed in Z224 and then open just one frame later in Z225, which would most certainly be strong evidence of both men initially reacting to being hit by gunfire at the exact same moment in time.
Plus, there's the fact that John Kennedy's right hand appears to still be moving
DOWNWARD between Z224 and Z225. (My thanks to researcher
John Corbett for pointing out that interesting fact a few years ago.)
So that would indicate that Kennedy's hands have not even
begun their upward swing toward his throat as late as Z225. We don't see the upward movement of JFK's hands until Z226, which is exactly the same frame we also see Connally's right arm raise up (which is easily identifiable by his white Stetson hat that's rising into the air)....
I challenge anyone (even a staunch conspiracy believer) to watch the real-time Z-Film clip below a few times in a row and then come back in here and try to tell me there's no way in the world this clip shows the two limo victims reacting to bullet wounds at the exact same time. If anyone does want to still tell me that after viewing this clip 12 times consecutively, I think they're only fooling themselves....
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David Von Pein
June 13-15, 2024
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DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Denise Hazelwood said this in her new
SBT article....
"In order for the SBT to work, the first entrance, into Kennedy, has to be at the level of the neck, not the back."
But that statement is just not accurate at all. And the proof that it's not accurate rests on
Page 96 of Warren Commission Volume #18, which is where we find CE903, which has Arlen Specter demonstrating the trajectory for the Single-Bullet Theory, and the entrance wound in Kennedy is NOT up in the "NECK". It's in the upper back, just where
this autopsy photo shows it to be (or at least very,
very close to the exact "north/south" location of the entry wound seen in that autopsy photograph).
CE903:
Another very bizarre statement made by Denise Hazelwood in her new 2024 SBT article is this one:
"My own contention is that it was Connally (not Kennedy) who was struck by a bullet when the limousine was in the Z313 position."
In case anyone has forgotten (which is not likely),
this is frame 313 of the Zapruder Film.
Denise, based on her bold statement I just quoted, quite obviously thinks the Zapruder Film has been significantly altered and tampered with. I, however, disagree strongly with such a contention.
DENISE HAZELWOOD SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Just do an "eyeball" comparison yourself of where the "wound" is in these two pictures below. It sure looks to me like Arlen Specter has got it pretty close to being right (even though he didn't drill the rod clean through the JFK stand-in). Do you really think Specter's north/south placement of the wound is way off here? ....
DENISE HAZELWOOD SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
More "altered" stuff, Denise? Yikes!
And you are confident in saying
"many of the autopsy images were altered", despite the fact we find these words written on
Page 41 of HSCA Vol. 7? ....
"The evidence indicates that the autopsy photographs and X-rays were taken of President Kennedy at the time of his autopsy and that they had not been altered in any manner."
DENISE HAZELWOOD SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Liars, liars everywhere (according to many conspiracy theorists). And fake evidence in even more places.
Geez Louise.
In your opinion, Denise, is there
any "legit" (i.e., not tampered with) evidence to be found in the JFK/Tippit murder cases? And if so, what is that evidence? Thanks.
DENISE HAZELWOOD SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Thanks for your answer, Denise.
But when you say
"there was no “front of the head” blowout", let me remind you where Abe Zapruder and Gayle Newman (two of the closest witnesses to JFK when he was shot) placed the blowout wound....
David Von Pein
June 14-16, 2024
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JONATHAN COHEN SAID THIS.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Indeed. It's just one outrageous and ridiculous theory after another coming from David Lifton in
this 2013 video series. It's really quite humorous to see.
David Von Pein
June 25, 2024
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