RICH POPE SAID:
Here's an idea I thought of. .... What if someone wrote a book from Lee Harvey Oswald's point of view? As if he's telling the story from childhood up until his death? It would be historical fiction by necessity, but if there's enough fact included in the book and if it's told in just the right way, it might be interesting to people.
So, does anyone have a book (biography) they would recommend about LHO that would help me in this? Or if you think it's a stupid idea, warn me off (but tell me why) so I don't waste any time and money.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
As you would probably expect, I would recommend the 276-page "Lee Harvey Oswald" chapter that can be found in Vincent Bugliosi's mammoth 2007 book "Reclaiming History: The Assassination Of President John F. Kennedy". A few of my comments and some excerpts from that excellent chapter can be found here:
ReclaimingHistory.blogspot.com/Chapter 5 ("Lee Harvey Oswald")
RICH POPE SAID:
David,
Thank you. I just bought it on Amazon.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Good man. :)
And make sure you don't overlook the endnotes on the CD-ROM disc attached to the back cover of the book. And if the CD isn't included, send it back and get a copy with the CD disc attached. Because the CD's endnotes are very important. There's lots of good information contained in those 1,000+ pages.
David Von Pein
January 6-7, 2019
FRANCOIS CARLIER SAID:
Hello everybody,
I have a question regarding this video:
When exactly was it filmed? What exact date? I have read conflicting articles and sources in books or on the Internet. Sometimes researchers just write "August 1963".
My question is: do you agree that the camera operator was Mike Lala, from WDSU? And was is August 21 or August 12? (If I am not mistaken -- I might be -- Posner says it is August 12 and Martin Shackelford says it is August 21.)
Thanks in advance to those who can provide solid and acurate answers.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Lee Harvey Oswald's WDSU-TV interview in New Orleans definitely occurred just after his radio debate with Bringuier and Butler on Wednesday, August 21, 1963. (Confirmed via the documents shown below.)
Page 175 of Warren Commission Volume #11 can be found HERE.
FRANCOIS CARLIER SAID:
Thank you very much, David.
However, I own Vincent Bugliosi's book, so I suppose that what you are saying publicly here is that I should have looked up the information myself...😉
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Well, Francois, my #1 Rule of Thumb is to always go to "Reclaiming History" first whenever I want to look up any information relating to the JFK case. And about 95% of the time, I'll find something in that book on the sub-topic I'm searching for.
David Von Pein
January 5-6, 2019
RON BULMAN SAID:
As RFK approached, Sirhan stepped off the tray cart toward the tables on the right and began firing at RFK around another man from 3-6' away (blanks?). Another man, similary dressed, crouching on the table beside and behind him, began firing to RFK's right, hitting four people. Upon this signal, Security guard Thane Cesar from Ace Security, leading him by his right hand with his left, shot RFK three times in the chest with [his] right. At the same time, a man hiding between the ice machine and the wall sticking out behind it behind the kneeling officer in this picture, stepped out and shot RFK behind his right ear. Possibly twice.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Oh, brother. What an imagination. Just like with the JFK case, CTers always go "over the top" with their fantastic "multi-gunmen" conspiracy theories in the RFK assassination as well. It never ends. Just incredible.
David Von Pein
January 6, 2019
GEOFF HEINRICKS SAID:
Kellerman's "flurry" has always been a good piece of honest testimony, from a guy that was out of his depth...if not more...that day, but knew the tools of his trade. I'd say that a flurry - given the wounds, scrubbed misses and ricochets, and the fact there HAD to be success - had to be at least a dozen shots, theatrical 'heard' ones and suppressed ones.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
A much more reasonable explanation for Roy Kellerman's "flurry" testimony is....
http://jfk-archives/Roy Kellerman's "Flurry"
My explanation is certainly far and away more reasonable and sensible than believing, as Geoff Heinricks does, that there were "at least a dozen shots" fired in Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63.
Any theory that incorporates "at least a dozen shots" is just plain laughable.
RICH POPE SAID:
Let me ask this...were the shots that hit Connally meant for JFK?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Only one shot hit Connally, and that shot hit JFK first (of course).
So the answer to your inquiry is, of course....Yes.
GEOFF HEINRICKS SAID:
My father at least had interview time with Kellerman on tape, and that probably gives me at least as much authority as DVP in interpreting what a JFK Dealey 'flurry' might be.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Did Kellerman tell your dad that he heard more than 3 shots? If so, that would be quite a switch from what he told the Warren Commission....
ARLEN SPECTER -- "Do you have any current recollection of having heard more than three shots?"
ROY H. KELLERMAN -- "No, I don't. I will have to say no."
RICH POPE SAID:
LBJ ducked-down prior to ANY shots being fired.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
That's yet another myth that CTers never get tired of repeating.
RICH POPE SAID:
Is there any agreement about how many shots were fired at JFK?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
http://jfk-archives/Dealey Plaza Earwitnesses
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Source Links: HERE and HERE.
ROBERT CARD SAID:
Dallas motorcycle cop James Chaney was not questioned by the FBI, or called before the WC. Chaney was the closest law enforcement officer to JFK at the time of the shooting. He was questioned by the FBI about his meeting with Jack Ruby on Nov 23, but nothing about the shooting. He eventually was questioned in 1975. Being that Chaney had an excellent view of the victim, and he was law enforcement, why do you think Chaney was never questioned or called before the WC?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
I can't answer that question. Nor can you.
But if you think the reason was because Chaney would have testified to things the Warren Commission just didn't want to hear, that reason is just so silly, since the Commission called MANY other witnesses who testified to things that could lead to a conclusion of "conspiracy". For example, the witnesses I mentioned in this 2014 exchange with conspiracy theorist Ray Mitcham....
RAY MITCHAM SAID: "I can see why the Warren Commission didn't want them [Bill and Gayle Newman] to be interviewed."
DVP SAID: "Yeah, right Ray. They avoided the Newmans, but had no problem publishing the testimony of Sam Holland, Mark Lane, Jean Hill, Jack Dougherty, Victoria Adams, Clint Hill, Marguerite Oswald, and several other "conspiracy" type witnesses. But they were just scared to death of Bill and Gayle Newman, huh?"
RICH POPE SAID:
When single-bullet theory supporters claim that most people in Dealey Plaza heard three shots and that they came from the Book Depository, they're including witnesses such as JFK's two closest aides, Dave Powers and Kenny O'Donnell, both riding in the limousine behind JFK's, who, at first testified that two shots came from the right front of the motorcade--the area of the "grassy knoll" with its picket fence, but later admitted they were pressured to change their testimony by the FBI.
Author Henry Hunt discovered in 1986 that at least 60 witnesses claimed the FBI altered what they had reported. In other words, the FBI just changed reported testimony just to make their single-bullet theory work. Many more such claims have emerged since then and this has been well documented.
So these silly graphs posted by David have ZERO value. There's a difference between misinformation and disinformation. David practices the art of disinformation.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
You need to look at this underlying data that John McAdams has relied on to arrive at the figures seen in his pie charts.
McAdams doesn't include Dave Powers as a "Depository" earwitness at all. McAdams has Powers in the "Not Sure" category.
And, yes, McAdams does list Ken O'Donnell in the "TSBD" category, but I think it's interesting to note that among the other authors and researchers that McAdams has listed in his comparison chart above (two of which are noted CTers), only one of those researchers lists O'Donnell as a "Knoll" earwitness. Even long-time veteran conspiracy advocate Josiah Thompson said that O'Donnell heard the shots come from his "Right Rear".
Also....
I just noticed that John McAdams has both Bill Newman and Gayle Newman listed as "Knoll" witnesses under the "McAdams" column on his "Earwitness Tabulation" page, which I don't think is correct at all (particularly when it comes to Bill Newman's statements specifically). In my opinion, Bill Newman shouldn't be categorized as either a "Knoll" witness or a "TSBD" witness. CLICK HERE to see why I say that.
ROY WIESELQUIST SAID:
How many shots do you HEAR, David? That's one of the PHONY effects of firing in fusillades. Which was a big part of the plan all along. Any number of shots will sound like ONE to the EARwitnesses. And that doesn't even get into muffled shots. But if someone SAYS he didn't HEAR a shot, that means it didn't exist, right? Even though there's all kinds of OTHER physical evidence known by the senses.
Next time Von Pein brings up how many shots witnesses SAID they HEARD, here are a few alternative rejoinders:
-- David, how many shots did they DREAM they SAW?
-- DVP, how many shots did they THINK they SMELLED?
-- Herr Von Pein, how many shots did they FEEL they TASTED?
-- Monsieur VP, how many shots did they GUESS they FELT?
When there's so much physical evidence for all kinds of shots, yeah, let's divert from that with a phony ONE aspect. These folks, all happy at a parade, the last thing they ever expected... but that's the only admissible evidence?! No, that's such a minor part of the evidence that it is almost not evidence.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Ahhh, what a perfect excuse for conspiracy theorists!! They theorize that there was a series of perfectly synchronized rifle shots in Dealey Plaza, masking the sound of many of the blasts. And, remember, there were "at least a dozen shots", per Geoff Heinricks' analysis. And, somehow, all those shots were whittled down to just THREE audible shots being heard by the vast majority of witnesses in the Plaza. That was some fantastic job of coordination on the part of those highly-skilled gunmen, wasn't it?
And it's just a coincidence, I guess, that exactly THREE shell casings were found on the sixth floor of the TSBD, eh? (All planted, I suppose.)
And I suppose it's also just a coincidence that the Zapruder Film shows ONLY the right-frontal portion of JFK's head exploding, with NO wound whatsoever visible in the right-rear of his head--even though, according to almost all CTers, that right-rear part of his head was blasted out by the gunshot fired by one of those stealth-like gunmen situated on the Grassy Knoll. And there's not even a hint of redness in the right-rear of Kennedy's head in the Z-Film either. The right-rear of his head is totally injury-free. (Probably just a fake film with a "black patch" inserted over the real wound, right?)
~sigh~
David Von Pein
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