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CONSPIRACY THEORIST RICHARD VAN NOORD SAID:
>>> "The accoustical [sic] evidence was revisited, and UPGRADED to a 96% or better degree of probability." <<<
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
And that 96% is perched on a foundation that is 100% invalid, based
on the location of where a motorcycle NEEDED TO BE (per the HSCA's
acoustics experts) in order for the Dictabelt "gunshots" to be
The film taken by assassination eyewitness Robert Hughes ALONE debunks
the HSCA's acoustics evidence. It couldn't BE any more obvious that no
motorcycle is going to be at the corner of Elm & Houston at the time
the HSCA desperately needed one there. Just look:
Debunking The HSCA Acoustics Evidence
>>> "The Texas A&M studies show [Dr. Vincent P.] Guinn operated from a FALSE premise and based ALL his findings on this premise." <<<
CTers love to spout this nonsense (it makes the conspiracy kooks feel
better to concentrate on chaff like this, rather than focus any attention
at all on the much more important and overpowering "LHO Did It" evidence
that flows like water in this murder case).
The long and the short of the ballistics matter is that the odds of
ANY of the tiny bullet fragments recovered in the limousine or in the
bodies of the two victims coming from a different rifle than Lee
Oswald's Mannlicher-Carcano #C2766 are incredibly small.
The odds of those fragments coming from a non-C2766 weapon are so low
as to be nearly a flat zero. Certainly darn close to zero at any
rate, when some common sense is thrown into the argument concerning
the ballistics evidence. (This being based on the provable fact that
the ONLY bullet fragments and whole bullets recovered at the crime
scene or at the hospital are bullets conclusively from Oswald's
If the plotters were able to shoot John F. Kennedy AND John B.
Connally with bullets from more than just Oswald's gun and yet have
the ONLY ballistically-linked fragments and bullets that showed up in
the car and hospital being linked to Oswald's rifle and only his
rifle....then it was such an incredible miracle that the plotters
probably deserved to get away with it. (Because miracles like that
don't occur every day; so we might as well celebrate it in grand
fashion when they do occur.)
BTW, Dale K. Myers wrote an impressive and extremely interesting
article that appeared this morning on his website. In the article,
Dale touches on the silliness of the "NAA studies" (particularly the
July 2006 Grant/Randich study). Here's the Dale Myers' link.
>>> "I find it amazing you believe that the shot to the head blew out the right front part of his skull, but the autopsy photos show his forehead intact." <<<
So what? The forehead need not be blown out by Oswald's bullet.
Kennedy was leaning significantly forward and to his left at the time
of the head shot. There's no question about this. Just look at the
Moorman picture for a good look at how FAR LEFT Kennedy was leaning at
the time of the fatal shot:
Via this orientation of JFK's head when it was struck by a bullet,
plus the possibility of the bullet changing course slightly after it
crashed full-speed into the President's head (which is quite likely,
at least to a small extent), a RIGHT-FRONTAL blow-out is perfectly
consistent with a bullet coming from Oswald's window in the Book
And even WITHOUT any pictures to verify the "Kennedy Lean", it
wouldn't matter....because there's the verifiable proof of the autopsy
pictures and autopsy report, which confirm beyond all possible doubt
that only one bullet hit JFK in the head, and that bullet entered in
the back of the head and exited in the RIGHT-FRONT-TOP portion of the
Whether CTers wish to accept those irrevocable FACTS is not really of
any particular importance or significance. For, no LNer on the planet
can satisfy a CTer's Wishful Thinking. It's impossible. The kooks WANT
a bullet hitting JFK from the front, and always will WANT that. And to
hell with the evidence that says otherwise.
44 years of denial. Pathetic, isn't it? (I think so too.)
>>> "You need to compare the autopsy photo to the actual X-ray admitted in evidence; they DON'T MATCH." <<<
Is that why the HSCA had no qualms whatsoever in declaring that all of the
autopsy photographs AND X-rays "had not been altered in any manner"?
As well as the Clark Panel in 1968?
The HSCA's distinguished Forensic Pathology Panel seems to disagree
with Richard. Then, too, every official Government body disagrees with
Mr. Van Noord about almost everything connected to the tragedy that
occurred in Dallas 44 years ago this very noon. So, there's nothing new
But Richard will dredge up old, worn-out conspiracy arguments today as
if the last 597 debunkings of such tripe had never even taken place.
>>> "Meanwhile, it seems as though David is a medical expert and has placed the [upper-back] wound conveniently above the throat wound." <<<
Which it is...and always was. And that fact can easily be verified by
this autopsy photograph of the late President Kennedy:
Quoting from Vincent Bugliosi's JFK book:
"Perhaps the clearest visual evidence of the fact that the entrance wound in the [President's] back was definitely above the exit wound in the throat appears in one of [the] autopsy photos taken of the left side of the president's head as he is lying on his back, his head on a metal headrest. Only the wound to the throat is visible, not the wound to his upper right back. However, it couldn't be clearer from this photo that the wound to the back was definitely ABOVE the exit wound in the throat." -- Vincent T. Bugliosi; Page 424 of "Reclaiming History" (c.2007)
>>> "I was at a conference proving Marrion Baker arrived at the TSBD doorstep in 22 seconds, smashing the Dale Myers/Todd Vaughan timeline of 35 seconds." <<<
I love it. Evidently, a whopping THIRTEEN seconds difference = A conspiracy.
And it's 13 seconds that cannot possibly be verified with 100% certainty,
because ALL TIMELINES connected with the shooting are only approximations
and estimates (just as the Warren Commission fully acknowledged).
And those approximations include, of course, the estimated movements
of the ASSASSIN HIMSELF (Lee Oswald), in conjunction with Officer
Marrion L. Baker's movements just after the shooting took place. And
(quite obviously) nobody was able to get Oswald himself to tell us just
exactly how fast or how slow he was walking or running just after he fired
his three bullets at President Kennedy forty-four years ago today.
Therefore, any 13-second differential in Marrion Baker's movements
immediately after the assassination means very, very little when compared
to the GRAND WHOLE that tells the world that Lee Harvey Oswald was
shooting at John Kennedy on November 22, 1963.
But, to Richard "I LIKE CHAFF MUCH BETTER THAN WHEAT" Van Noord,
those thirteen ESTIMATED seconds are evidently supposed to bring the
Lone Assassin scenario to its knees. I love it!
David Von Pein
November 22, 2007