JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS
(PART 1267)
(PART 1267)
DAVID JOSEPHS SAID:
In Warren Commission Document 442, we find a telegram from Mexico City to Sec. of State Rusk stating the records show on October 3, 1963, a Lee HENRY Oswald left Mexico by automobile.
MICHAEL WALTON SAID:
I recall seeing on the live CBS broadcast Harry Reasoner saying something like "The suspect is Lee Henry Oswald..."
Does this throw anything above out of whack?
DAVID JOSEPHS SAID:
Guess that depends on whether you're remembering correctly or not...
I doubt very highly anyone outside of Mexico used the name HENRY.
MICHAEL WALTON SAID:
DJ,
Watch "4 Days in November" [1988 CBS-TV documentary with Dan Rather]. DVP confirmed "Henry" was used by the talking head. You're wrong about it being some top-secret code name or whatever you think it was. It was just a mistake; and yes, secret agents DO make mistakes.
DAVID JOSEPHS SAID:
Then explain this....
If the name HENRY gets to CBS, the source had to have known something about this file... not a mistake... just the trail of who got what info from where.
MICHAEL WALTON SAID:
The most I can say is maybe it's similar to what Bill Simpich said in State Secret - how back when LHO defected, the legend they created for him and Webster was inter-changeable. And then, 15 minutes after the shooting on 11/22, the first broadcast that goes out is "5-10 165...", that same legend created 3 years before.
I don't know. I'm speculating here of course. But I DO know Henry was used on CBS. And DVP also said that he heard Cronkite also call LHO "Leo." Pat Speer goes into great detail about the misinformation and BS coming out by the media during the hours after the murder.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
To hear Walter Cronkite's "Leo" remark, go to the 2:29:15 mark in the video below. That "Leo" reference, btw, is the first time LHO was mentioned on CBS-TV after the assassination. I haven't been able to locate Cronkite's "Lee Henry" reference, but it's definitely located somewhere within the CBS Nov. 22-25 coverage....
RICHARD PRICE SAID:
I'm not sure, but I think the "Lee Henry" remark is the one made by DA Henry Wade to reporters in a video I saw some time ago. Whether or not Cronkite repeated it, I don't know.
DAVID JOSEPHS SAID:
Wade... ex FBI. Wonder if he got it from Hosty, who got it 10/18 from Woosley... who got it from Win Scott...
Should an I&NS agent be relaying CIA memo to FBI? Marked card gives that away....
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
I finally found the CBS footage showing Cronkite saying "Lee Henry Oswald". It's at the 25:35 mark in my video below, and it occurred on Monday, November 25th (after JFK's funeral)....
DAVID JOSEPHS SAID:
Thanks Dave....
What significance do you attach to this - if any?
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Absolutely none (of course). Cronkite merely got LHO's middle name wrong in that one instance on 11/25/63. And, as I previously said in July 2016, Walter messed up LHO's name on other occasions that weekend too—first calling him "Leo H. Oswald", and one other time calling him "Lee Harvey Osburn".
So, should I now attach some kind of conspiratorial "significance" to those two other incorrect monikers too (Leo and Osburn)?
And should I also think there was something fishy about the fact that KRLD reporter Bob Huffaker kept calling Oswald "Lee HAROLD Oswald" on November 24th? (Huffaker, btw, said he got the "Harold" name from Glen King of the Dallas Police Department.)
DAVID JOSEPHS SAID:
Of course not.... I can chalk it up to a simple mistake as well.... and a mighty coincidence that this 201 file would be opened with HENRY and used to describe the Mr. Oswald in the cables.
We do agree, though, that Angleton and Egerter could have had a reason for entering HENRY on the 201...
I also understand that most 201 files have a secret counterpart which contains files not allowed in the "public" one... "Public" to other CIA personnel, that is.
News tended to get fact-checked... So I do find it somewhat strange.... the word "Henry" appears on his cards or prompter? IDK
Yes, people make mistakes.... people also plan covert assassination...
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
David J.,
All of the various botched versions of Lee Harvey Oswald's name that we heard coming out of the mouths of different reporters during the weekend of JFK's assassination—which included, btw, ALL THREE of LHO's names (his first, middle, and last), and not just his middle name—can, in my opinion, be categorized as plain ordinary non-sinister errors.
And you'll notice that each time somebody got LHO's name wrong, they managed to get the first letter correct in the botched version of his name, e.g., Leo H. Oswald and Lee Henry Oswald and Lee Harold Oswald and Lee Harvey Osburn. So each reporter seemed to know the correct three initials (L, H, and O), but at various times just couldn't recall the exact name.
David Von Pein
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